Originally posted by DigiMark007
Digi Post #6
Characters: Warlock and Thor
We never argued that he couldn't "hold" more than 1 at a time. It's the use of them. And if you're only using one power a at a time, Adaptoid's screwed. Hell, we wouldn't even need our power sharing....even though we have it (
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So yeah, you'll need lots of simultaneous powers to hang with us. And he can't.
Oh, and he's still doing stuff with metal (and is he made of metal parts?). Either way, anti-metal boards = a quick death for Adaptoid.
My point exactly. He's only using 1....it doesn't matter how many he can hold if you can't use them in conjunction with one another.Digi I'm sorry but I think you have things mixed up about the Super Adaptoid's powers. He's limited by his number of characters not his number of powers.
Here he is using Spiderman's agility, jumping, AND webs simaltaniously.
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Here he is using simaltanious flight AND energy blast(from Ironman I'm assuming).
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Once again, all you have is Loki's explanation. All of Asgard didn't understand when Loki tried to tell them the same thing. So why would Creel?
Also, there's never a fight where Creel displays this supposed power. You have no proof that he'll have any idea what he's doing.]
Yes there was, he assumed the properties of a math equation that was able to negate the powers of the Scarlet Witch. How do you figure he was able to actually touch a math equation in order to take on it's properties?
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
...because? We've shown his weakness, and we have Firelord's power exploting that weakness..
Despero didn't have that weakness when he recreated the Flame on Earth. And I think your forgetting that this particular Despero's power is also in possession of his own set of Nega Bands.
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Two things:
1. Anti-metal will deal with EXAM (or Sentry, but that's Scoob's territory).
2. And no, it's not banned, given the nature of AM's powers it's completely acceptable. Matter transmutation is his power...it's simply all internally based. Just think of it as us turning his power against him. Besides, I already ran it by BD...it's not viable for anyone else, but it is for EXAM because of this
Oh ok(though I do feel that I should have been told if there was going to be a rule change for my character).
Anyway, so what examples do you have of of one of your characters using someone's power against them like that, since thats what it is? Regualar transmutation shouldn't work, because he retains his consciousness no matter what his form, and he would be able to turn back at will.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
No offense taken.
But are we really doing this again? What I don't get to here, I'm sure I answered on page 1...judges, please refer to that as well.
Tell you what, since we've both made our arguments clear regarding our stances on the soul link, Warlock's being"Undetectable and so forth, I'll just leave it to the judges to determine who's assessment seems more accurate(I'm running out of time anyway).
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Invisibility/Undetectible:
- Goober cites Magus and Goddess, but even though they were a part of Warlock, they're seperate entities....it's using someone else's showings to debate against another. It doesn't make sense.
But the fact is that Order and Chaos confirm that they both share that status with him.
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Once again, I showed the scans, and provided examples. All they have is speculation and vague showings that are, at best, loosely related to my point.
Well this is something that we'll have to let the judges decide, because I feel that Cosmic Awareness working against the Magus, Mar-Vell being able to actually sense Warlock with his own cosmic awareness, etc. all fall under the heading of valuable evidence.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Post #5 - Space Phantom/Thor
Adaptoid never once showed any level of competence with the Nega bands .... in fact he only copied them for 2 or 3 panels before he was pwned and he's never used them since.
It pretty been established that Adaptoid gets the full range of abilities of the duplicated person. He picks up powers, attributes, skills, etc.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Post #5 - Space Phantom/Thor
Regardless of his form/powers, he is still a robot .... The Nega bands do not stop every form of energy from getting through to the wearer or else every wearer of them would be blind, deaf and frozen.
The Nega Bands stopped everything that Reed and Strange tried, maybe they just smart enough to let sunlight in.
In regards to the rest...
Despero has been amped up to an unbelievable level(and has an abundance of energy manipulation/absorbtion powers), and is not going to go down to Thor(who if you want to talk about low showings, has a hard time with Mongoose, and knocked out by a bullet).
Super Adaptoid will be copying the powers of the ENHACED Despero. That means that he'll also begetting the powers of the Nega Bands, EX AM, etc. But since it's still only a singe powerful form, he won't short circut.
Again, him copying an evolved cosmic cube...
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Warlock has retained almost none of the knowldge he possessed when he had the IG, and assuming that he'll remember Stardust is absurd.
And I have a question regarding Sentry/Thor. Wasn't Thor under the effects of some kind of mental effect that blocked Sentry from his memory when he was last seen at a level that was below Skyfather(I thought I had heard that somewhere, but I may be mistaken)? Cause if so, that means that Sentry wouldn't even be present and Super Adaptoid would just be fighting Space Phantom which=death to Phantom.
And ANY of our characters can assume any nuber of forms to deal with the Anti Metal.
Thanks everyone for a good match.
I don't think so(he's three).
