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someone seems to think mr.mxy can beat LT what do you think.

Then "someone"'s on drugs ...

Originally posted by xmeat
someone seems to think mr.mxy can beat LT what do you think.



hysterical

Originally posted by xmeat
someone seems to think mr.mxy can beat LT what do you think.

Look at the avatar. Cartoons do not defeat the ultimate creation of The One Above All.

ol I was surprised guy222 didn't repy first on this one. It ended before Mxy coud spell his name backwards

Originally posted by Redatom65
ol I was surprised guy222 didn't repy first on this one. It ended before Mxy coud spell his name backwards

I was a bit late. For the record, no one is above Living Tribunal save the One Above All. He does look silly w/three faces

still his powers are said to be only second to The Presence

Myx isn't even the most powerful imp is he?

He is, but the battle depends on where it is. If it's in the Marvel universe, it's not outside the LT's abilities to shunt his powers.

Wait, I thought Mxy always was getting in trouble and punished by the other imps, how would that be if he was the strongest?

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
He is, but the battle depends on where it is. If it's in the Marvel universe, it's not outside the LT's abilities to shunt his powers.


His no where near the strongest.

Originally posted by Supreme being
His no where near the strongest.

You sure? I'm pretty sure if Mxy isn't, he's one of them.

Mxy is 2nd only to the queen of the Imps. And has done more on panel than anyone else. He has done on panel what the beyonder was said to be able to do. and The beyonder pretty much bitched the LT. Mxy was able to bop the Spectre on the head and wipe out everything. The LT loses. MXy> or= to classic Beyonder>>>The LT

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy is 2nd only to the queen of the Imps. And has done more on panel than anyone else. He has done on panel what the beyonder was said to be able to do. and The beyonder pretty much bitched the LT. Mxy was able to bop the Spectre on the head and wipe out everything. The LT loses. MXy> or= to classic Beyonder>>>The LT
This is some seroius fanboyism ...
Spectre is above the imp's, he have stoped Mxyztplk more than once.
The times Mxyztplk have fought Spectre with success has been pure PIS.

The Ultimator who were the supreme imp seemed to be DC's version of Multi-Eternity.

I'm not sure if emperor Joker was canon, but he's max at Eternity's level.

Worlds funnest cannot be canon, since he eradicated everything, which would mean even the Presence, Ultimator, the queen and so forth.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy is 2nd only to the queen of the Imps. And has done more on panel than anyone else. He has done on panel what the beyonder was said to be able to do. and The beyonder pretty much bitched the LT. Mxy was able to bop the Spectre on the head and wipe out everything. The LT loses. MXy> or= to classic Beyonder>>>The LT

Isn't MXY the equivalent of a clown in his dimension, the claim that Mxy is the second strongest is a bit full on but perhaps necessary as we haven't seen a lot of Imps in action.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Mxy is 2nd only to the queen of the Imps. And has done more on panel than anyone else. He has done on panel what the beyonder was said to be able to do. and The beyonder pretty much bitched the LT. Mxy was able to bop the Spectre on the head and wipe out everything. The LT loses. MXy> or= to classic Beyonder>>>The LT

Post-Retcon Beyonder is nothing to Living Tribunal. Pre=Before Post=Now

This is not a good thread. A better one would be Mxy vs. classical beyonder or even batman vs. mxy. Mxy has destroyed the entire Onmiverse and recreated it. This dwarfs LT's powers. LT is only 3 dimensional and Mxy is 5 dimensional. Automatically making him more powerful. Who cares if he isn't the strongest imp? This has nothing to do with his ability top anything from the 3rd dimension.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is not a good thread. A better one would be Mxy vs. classical beyonder or even batman vs. mxy. Mxy has destroyed the entire Onmiverse and recreated it. This dwarfs LT's powers. LT is only 3 dimensional and Mxy is 5 dimensional. Automatically making him more powerful. Who cares if he isn't the strongest imp? This has nothing to do with his ability top anything from the 3rd dimension. you have not a clue what LT is capable of everything mxy does he does better.

Not to mention "World's Funnest" was non - canon.

Originally posted by h1a8
LT is only 3 dimensional and Mxy is 5 dimensional.

Well if you want to go by dimesionality they're both 2D.

In universe however LT must be omnidimensional so myx still loses.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
This is some seroius fanboyism ...
Spectre is above the imp's, he have stoped Mxyztplk more than once.
The times Mxyztplk have fought Spectre with success has been pure PIS.

The Ultimator who were the supreme imp seemed to be DC's version of Multi-Eternity.

I'm not sure if emperor Joker was canon, but he's max at Eternity's level.

Worlds funnest cannot be canon, since he eradicated everything, which would mean even the Presence, Ultimator, the queen and so forth.
Please don't try and sound educatated on DC books. World's Funnest MUST be cannon becuz the kingdome legitimized it as well as IC.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Not to mention "World's Funnest" was non - canon.

WHy dont you read the Kingdome and IC. World's Funnest was Cannon as of a couple of retcons. Try again.

Originally posted by h1a8
This is not a good thread. A better one would be Mxy vs. classical beyonder or even batman vs. mxy. Mxy has destroyed the entire Onmiverse and recreated it. This dwarfs LT's powers. LT is only 3 dimensional and Mxy is 5 dimensional. Automatically making him more powerful. Who cares if he isn't the strongest imp? This has nothing to do with his ability top anything from the 3rd dimension.
LT is actualy 16 dimensional.

the living trubunal is Omnipotence,Omniscience,Omnipresence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_Tribunal
vs
Mxyztplk is Not bound by third-dimensional laws, can perform nearly any feat using what either is or appears to be magic, essentially omnipotent

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mxyztplk


living trubunal wins


u might as well close the thred fight is over

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Please don't try and sound educatated on DC books. World's Funnest MUST be cannon becuz the kingdome legitimized it as well as IC.
Yeah of course Mxyztplk who was punked by the 6th D imp's ect was able to kill their entire race + a lot more powerful beings then himself, Lucifer, Michael ect.

But even if.

Besides Abraxas said with the nullifier that no one in no time in the combinded universes could stop him, still just multiversal.

Originally posted by King Kandy
LT is actualy 16 dimensional.
He is omnipresent, he's in all dimensions all the time.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
He is omnipresent, he's in all dimensions all the time.

I agree with that

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
He is omnipresent, he's in all dimensions all the time.

False. And he is not 16 dimensional. Dimensional has more than 1 meaning. There are only 10 dimensions (in the sense of Mxy) where the 10th dimension is everything (in its absolute sense). Now if LT>>>>Mxy then how could Mxy erase an entire omniverse and recreate it? This feat shows that mxy is greater than or equal to LT. In DC only the Presence seems above Mxy (In which in Marvel would be equivalent to TOAA).

Originally posted by h1a8
False. And he is not 16 dimensional. Dimensional has more than 1 meaning. There are only 10 dimensions (in the sense of Mxy) where the 10th dimension is everything (in its absolute sense).

Originally posted by h1a8
False. And he is not 16 dimensional. Dimensional has more than 1 meaning. There are only 10 dimensions (in the sense of Mxy) where the 10th dimension is everything (in its absolute sense). Now if LT>>>>Mxy then how could Mxy erase an entire omniverse and recreate it? This feat shows that mxy is greater than or equal to LT. In DC only the Presence seems above Mxy (In which in Marvel would be equivalent to TOAA). what a idiot

Originally posted by xmeat
what a idiot
Why do you think I'm an (not "a" idiot?
Why don't you ask anyone here who knows about DC comics?
They will tell you there are only 10 dimensions (in the comic-and not in real life) where the 10th dimension encompasses all.
Or just read some yourself.

And why don't you get the simply logic of mxy erasa omniverse then recreata omniverse makes him at least equals to LT in power.

This is common sense.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why do you think I'm an (not "a" idiot?
Why don't you ask anyone here who knows about DC comics?
They will tell you there are only 10 dimensions (in the comic-and not in real life) where the 10th dimension encompasses all.
Or just read some yourself.

And why don't you get the simply logic of mxy erasa omniverse then recreata omniverse makes him at least equals to LT in power.

This is common sense. equal not even close thanos destroyed and recreated the universe as well and LT still defeated the gems.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why do you think I'm an (not "a" idiot?
Why don't you ask anyone here who knows about DC comics?
They will tell you there are only 10 dimensions (in the comic-and not in real life) where the 10th dimension encompasses all.


Fine I'll wait for Galan007 before I laugh at you again.

If Mxy's involved, Superman wins.

Originally posted by h1a8
False. And he is not 16 dimensional. Dimensional has more than 1 meaning. There are only 10 dimensions (in the sense of Mxy) where the 10th dimension is everything (in its absolute sense). Now if LT>>>>Mxy then how could Mxy erase an entire omniverse and recreate it? This feat shows that mxy is greater than or equal to LT. In DC only the Presence seems above Mxy (In which in Marvel would be equivalent to TOAA).

Not to disagree with you don't know a lot about the dimensions and so on but what is the generel definition of a omniverse. The way I have readed Omniverse is where Omni means all so in theory there can only be one omniverse but how is it different in comics ???

Originally posted by Utrigita
Not to disagree with you don't know a lot about the dimensions and so on but what is the generel definition of a omniverse. The way I have readed Omniverse is where Omni means all so in theory there can only be one omniverse but how is it different in comics ???

Your right. I meant DC multiverse. I viewed it as the omniverse in which it isn't (by definition).

Originally posted by xmeat
equal not even close thanos destroyed and recreated the universe as well and LT still defeated the gems.

Notice you said Universe.
And not Multiverse.

thanks could make it fit

Originally posted by h1a8
Notice you said Universe.
And not Multiverse.

And there is some difference but still The IG was nothing compared to Thanos with HOTU which is said to be below TrueLivingTribunal but above a M-body of the Living Tribunal so is this discussion True ore M-body tribunal vs mr mxy???

Originally posted by h1a8
False. And he is not 16 dimensional. Dimensional has more than 1 meaning. There are only 10 dimensions (in the sense of Mxy) where the 10th dimension is everything (in its absolute sense). Now if LT>>>>Mxy then how could Mxy erase an entire omniverse and recreate it? This feat shows that mxy is greater than or equal to LT. In DC only the Presence seems above Mxy (In which in Marvel would be equivalent to TOAA).
Some writers overrate Mxyztplk, he is far from as powerful as some say.
There are thousands of beings more powerful than him (most of them being 6th and 8th dimensional imp's - since it is a race)
Mxyztplk has the power of one dimension the 5th, there are 10 dimension, levels of each universe.
There are more than one Mxyztplk, that's why he changed appearence in Worlds funnest ect.
In the 3rd dimension they are powerful, but in the fith they're only as powerful as magicians on earth.
In the 6th they're useless.

Worlds funnest Mxyztplk is at the level of the Ultimate Nullifier
Ultimator is at the level of Multi-Eternity

LT is above both of them.

mr mxy is fast becoming more and more overrated

how dimensions are there I have heard from 18 to 10 how many ??? just interestet

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Some writers overrate Mxyztplk, he is far from as powerful as some say.
There are thousands of beings more powerful than him (most of them being 6th and 8th dimensional imp's - since it is a race)
Mxyztplk has the power of one dimension the 5th, there are 10 dimension, levels of each universe.
There are more than one Mxyztplk, that's why he changed appearence in Worlds funnest ect.
In the 3rd dimension they are powerful, but in the fith they're only as powerful as magicians on earth.
In the 6th they're useless.

Worlds funnest Mxyztplk is at the level of the Ultimate Nullifier
Ultimator is at the level of Multi-Eternity

LT is above both of them.

You show more and more that you dont' know anything about DC comics. First of all, there is not more than one Mr. Mxy. That has been established that there is only one 5th dimension and that there is only one mxy. Who can at will change his appearance. 2ndly, if they were only as powerful as earth magicians in thier own dimension, then how come mxy was able to stand up to a blast from the ultimator. Third, The ultimator is nothing like multieternity. In DC each Dimension in itself is alread a multiverse. The 3rd dimension housed multiple multiverse. The kingdom is a multiverse housed in the third dimension. The multiverse of the infinite earths is housed in the 3rd dimension. Vertigo is a third dimensional multiverse. So how you can equate the Ultimatar with Multieterity is rediculous. If multieternity dies, everything does not die with him. If the ultimator dies, He said EVERY thing dies. Not the same nor are they equiv. MultiEternity is a #rd Dimensional Being who mxy could play with like a toy. As seen in World's funnest when Mxy erased and remade Multiple Multiverse.

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
mr mxy is fast becoming more and more overrated

Yeah at this rate people are going to say he could beat Spectre or LT . . .

Mr.Mxyzptlk true potential

i have just finished reading emperor joker and i am astonished by many of the threads posted in this forum. the joker is simply omnipotent, destroying and recreating the universe on a whim, feats seen only by the pre-retcon beyonder.

'in the beginning the joker created heaven and earth.....'

few people in comicdom have displayed such power, darkseid declares that the joker has stumbled onto the Anti_Life Equation just he's at the jokers mercy. Even the spectre falls to the jokers wrath who at a snap of his fingers has him caged like a bird. When superman declares that mxy never had such power, mxy simply exclames that he grasps that if he destroys reality they'll be no one to play with lol - -

He even creates his own hell. truth is, i could go on and on.

when it comes to feats on panel, no other character in comicdom has matched them in todays era of comics. he has even jumped out of comic strips (understand that potentially, if pitted against any for whether it be the living tribunal he could simply be rubbed out)

against mxy are the events after Day of Vengence in which the spectre assaulted all the forces of magic on earth. understand that he never confronted mxy at any time and each of his very hard fought battles were against magical being like shazam and dr fate. in emperor joker he has the guardians of the universe, dr fate and shazam comatose on a whim floating lol.

BUT the key is - -

the mxy that wandered virtually powerless, who was aparently killed by ruin was the Earth 2 mr mxyzptlk who's powers are actually magic not to be confused with the most powerful counterpart who's abilities are a mental superscience that can only be described as magic. you see he couldn't be corrupted by spectre's interference cuz his powers aren't magic.

He is immune to any lower dimension changes as his power came from some undetermined higher dimensional powers that were NOT effected by magic or physical sciences on the Earth dimension.
Its been suggested that this was really the Earth 2 Mister MxyzTPlk simply using his counterpart's name as this happened just before Kal-L (Earth 2) returned to the DC universe due to the Infinite Crisis events.

Know that the spectre is just a clip of his fingers to mxy and if you want pictures i have them.

if you think you see weakness in my arguement, you see no weakness but your own. read emperor joker

quote from wikipedia -

Though the exact limits of Mr. Mxyzptlk's powers are unknown, he's notable for being vastly more powerful than cosmic beings. Only The Presence seems above Mxyzptlk's powers.

THERE IS MORE THAN JUST ONE MXY

w.ww.dcdatabaseproject.com/Mister_Mxyzptlk

not to be confused with Earths 2 mxy

w.ww.dcdatabaseproject.com/Mister_Mxyztplk

read them both and realize that the all powerful mxy wasn't affected at all by the events of day of vengence. in a direct confrontation with the spectre its as easy as a click of his fingers

quote

'Known Powers: Hailing from the 5th Dimension Mxyptlk can manipulate reality and the laws of this universe in such a way as to appear magical. Supposely the powers of Mxyptlk are based on some form of mental superscience that has literally almost infinite reserves and is thus not effected by true magick forms unlike the Earth 2 MxyTPlk' (therefore he wasn't corrupted by day of vengence because he isn't actually performing magic)

the living tribunal is supposed to be omnipotent but gets punked by reed richarda although he's supposed to know all. in a battle on panel he is unable to defeat one entity so instead seals off the dimension hmmm omnipotent????!!!!! lol

excuse the links, just retype them, im not allowed to give links yet.

you do realise that the cosmic definition in marvel and DC are fundamentally different in there construction???

lol in the silver surfer/superman crossover mxy exclaims that cosmic power is nothing on FD magic and states that surfer would be unable to change the city back if he'd changed it into a cartoon.

cosmics within the two universes may be different but which cosmic entities have been shown to be able to do what the emperor joker did? heart of the universe. silver surfer and galactus, beings like them are way beneath mxy.

Originally posted by no_limits
lol in the silver surfer/superman crossover mxy exclaims that cosmic power is nothing on FD magic and states that surfer would be unable to change the city back if he'd changed it into a cartoon.

Lets see . . .

Crossovers = shit

You can't really use them as evidence.

Originally posted by no_limits
lol in the silver surfer/superman crossover mxy exclaims that cosmic power is nothing on FD magic and states that surfer would be unable to change the city back if he'd changed it into a cartoon.

cosmics within the two universes may be different but which cosmic entities have been shown to be able to do what the emperor joker did? heart of the universe. silver surfer and galactus, beings like them are way beneath mxy.

I like ur opinion. Mxy will not defeat Living Tribunal. He is God's ultimate creation

Originally posted by guy222
Mxy will not defeat Living Tribunal.

Yeah because you're not some kind of LT fanboy or anything. (I do agree though)

hmmm interesting God's ultimate creation. Well in the DC universe the Spectre is God's ultimate creation, as a matter of fact he's God's hand so to speak and he was left helpless in the joker saga (so being God's ultimate creation means nothing)

joker states that he is indeed omnipotent. he unravelled everything the presence created on a whim and no one could stop him. nearer the end, mxy apologises on a 'biblical' scale!

still, i wouldn't exactly call the living tribunal the ultimate creation..... if he were then surely he wouldn't have been punked by reed richards or stalemate an entity and have to seal off the dimension, that doesn't sound like being omnipotent.

the pre-retcon beyonder was way above him so just because being dubbed as only having TOAA above him means nothing. know that whatever there powers are mxy wouldn't even have to engage him he is the be-all and end-all because with the ability to enter the real world (a claim also made by the pre-retcon beyonder as being real) thus simply means that he could simply rub the LT out, his abilities are that crazy. who else is capable of that on panel?

if you think you see any weakness in my arguement - you see no weakness but your own.

JD>JobDone

we can simply end this argument by looking up whats his bio on DC. and i know mxy does not trump the living trubunal is Omnipotence,Omniscience,Omnipresence

no limits said "joker states that he is indeed omnipotent"
which is like saying surfer when he came over in the galactus/darkseid cross over that nothing in the universe is as powerful as the power he
weilds.

HYPERBOLE "joker states that he is indeed omnipotent"

no limt states spectre is on the on living trubunal level in terms of power when he is near omnipotent. i dont care if trubunal has shown less on panel marvel states that he is Omnipotence,Omniscience,Omnipresence

spectre
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_%28comics%29

trubunal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Living_Tribunal

mxy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Mxyzptlk

and only god in DC MATCHES that


JD job done

the living trubunal is Omnipotence,Omniscience,Omnipresence lol

omniscience is knowing everything, if that were the case he wouldnt have got punked by reed richard. Omnipresesence is being everywhere at once, if that were the case then he wouldn't need his M-bodies. and if he were truely omnipotent then he wouldn't have had to seal off that dimension. there is even one instance where a being mimiked his exact powers by simply looking at him(i will get you the article)

understand that the basis of mxy powers are simple, whatever he desires so if he wanted to be everywhere at once, then he will be, if he wanted to know everything, then he will do.

HYPERBOLE "joker states that he is indeed omnipotent"

read the comic strip, he unravells everything the presence creates on a whim and if that isnt omnipotent then what is? he is eternal to its greatest extremes. when joker states it, it isn't a hyperbole. superman declares that he never thought mxy had so much power and mxy laughs and says that he understands that if you destroy the universe they'll be no one left to play with.

no limt states spectre is on the on living trubunal level in terms of power when he is near omnipotent

you see the spectre is a very interesting character he is the wrath of god, so in affect if god willed it he would have enough power to complete any feat that god deemed necessary so essientially he is omnipotant.

JD jobDONE

the living trubunal is Omnipotence,Omniscience,Omnipresence lol

omniscience is knowing everything, if that were the case he wouldnt have got punked by reed richard. Omnipresesence is being everywhere at once, if that were the case then he wouldn't need his M-bodies. and if he were truely omnipotent then he wouldn't have had to seal off that dimension. there is even one instance where a being mimiked his exact powers by simply looking at him(i will get you the article)

understand that the basis of mxy powers are simple, whatever he desires so if he wanted to be everywhere at once, then he will be, if he wanted to know everything, then he will do.

HYPERBOLE "joker states that he is indeed omnipotent"

read the comic strip, he unravells everything the presence creates on a whim and if that isnt omnipotent then what is? he is eternal to its greatest extremes. when joker states it, it isn't a hyperbole. superman declares that he never thought mxy had so much power and mxy laughs and says that he understands that if you destroy the universe they'll be no one left to play with.

no limt states spectre is on the on living trubunal level in terms of power when he is near omnipotent

you see the spectre is a very interesting character he is the wrath of god, so in affect if god willed it he would have enough power to complete any feat that god deemed necessary so essientially he is omnipotant.

JD jobDONE

sorry i posted on lionskings name this is no limt

I'm gonna put it simple.
The Living Tribunal is second only to the One-Above-All
__

Mxyztplk is not second only to the Presence.
Ultimator, the race of the 8th and the 6th imp's are superior to him in ever aspect.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I'm gonna put it simple.
The Living Tribunal is second only to the One-Above-All
__

Mxyztplk is not second only to the Presence.
Ultimator, the race of the 8th and the 6th imp's are superior to him in ever aspect.

Isn't LT=Spectre in power?
If yes, then this is no debate (Mxy wins).

If no, then isn't the brothers second to TOAA?
And where does classic beyonder fit? Is he <<< LT?
And why was LT not able to be omnipotent so many times?
Not only has he shown that he is not omnipotent but not omniscient as well ( Richards may I say).

Originally posted by no_limits
the living trubunal is Omnipotence,Omniscience,Omnipresence lol

omniscience is knowing everything, if that were the case he wouldnt have got punked by reed richard. Omnipresesence is being everywhere at once, if that were the case then he wouldn't need his M-bodies. and if he were truely omnipotent then he wouldn't have had to seal off that dimension. there is even one instance where a being mimiked his exact powers by simply looking at him(i will get you the article)

understand that the basis of mxy powers are simple, whatever he desires so if he wanted to be everywhere at once, then he will be, if he wanted to know everything, then he will do.

HYPERBOLE "joker states that he is indeed omnipotent"

read the comic strip, he unravels everything the presence creates on a whim and if that isnt omnipotent then what is? he is eternal to its greatest extremes. when joker states it, it isn't a hyperbole. superman declares that he never thought mxy had so much power and mxy laughs and says that he understands that if you destroy the universe they'll be no one left to play with.

no limt states spectre is on the on living trubunal level in terms of power when he is near omnipotent

you see the spectre is a very interesting character he is the wrath of god, so in affect if god willed it he would have enough power to complete any feat that god deemed necessary so essientially he is omnipotant.

JD jobDONE

In what comic did Reed Richard succeed in knowing something that Living Tribunal doesn't just curious. And there isn't a number of M-bodies there is only one M-body (coming from the universe of manifestation) at a time capable of being everywhere at the same time. And LT possessors omnipotence and could also if his three heads agreed unravels everything that TOAA has created so mr mxy doing that doesn't prove anything and destroying a universe, big deal not difficult mentioning the beings in the marvel cosmic that couldn't do that.

I say it's a draw or LT wins. Problem with the premise of the LT character is that, on panel, he has to have a consensus of his three personas and be in accord with his role as multi-versal protector to take any action, where as Mxy is portrayed to act whenever he wants on panel.

The catch, though, is that here, on the forum, if LT is going battle Mxy, it must be assumed and is implied, per forum rules, that his three personas are in consensus and that Mxy must be destroyed, meaning that the on panel plot driven instances of LT holding back his power for the greater good of the multiverse is a non issue and both will be going all out.

LT is simply of a higher standing than Mxy. I can't see Mxy winning.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Wait, I thought Mxy always was getting in trouble and punished by the other imps, how would that be if he was the strongest?
Yeah, the Living Tribunal wouldent be "punished"

This needs to be bumped.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
This needs to be bumped.

LT wins

Spectre=LT>>>>>>MR Mxyztplk.

LT wins........why dont MYX just put LT in a place where he'd destroy many universes if he tried escaping thats how he beat the spectre or how the imps beat him dont they?

Depends on which version of Mxy. Mxy can't destroy the LT and I doubt the LT can destroy Mxy. Most we have seen mxy being defeated is being depowered. Mxy could trap the LT much like he did the Spectre or how reed trapped the LT.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Depends on which version of Mxy. Mxy can't destroy the LT and I doubt the LT can destroy Mxy. Most we have seen mxy being defeated is being depowered. Mxy could trap the LT much like he did the Spectre or how reed trapped the LT.

Welcome back

Originally posted by guy222
Welcome back

Thanks

LT wins

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
LT wins



wavey
ermmdance

Originally posted by hush
Spectre=LT>>>>>>MR Mxyztplk.

If we would go by Amalgam it would be something like this
Living Tribunal = Spectre
Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet = Darkseid w/ Anti-Life Equation
Impossible man = Mxyztplk

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
If we would go by Amalgam it would be something like this
Living Tribunal = Spectre
Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet = Darkseid w/ Anti-Life Equation
Impossible man = Mxyztplk

LOL. The impossible man cannot affect reality around him. Nor does he control life and death, the laws of physics. He isn't universal let alone multiversal. And Thanos with the IG is far superior to DS with the ALE. Try again.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
If we would go by Amalgam it would be something like this
Living Tribunal = Spectre
Thanos w/ Infinity Gauntlet = Darkseid w/ Anti-Life Equation
Impossible man = Mxyztplk Good thing we can't accurately gauge power-levels by Amalgam comics, ey?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU

Impossible man = Mxyztplk Umm, since when? dur

Originally posted by Badabing
Umm, since when? dur
Since (Im)possible allies.

Originally posted by Galan007
Good thing we can't accurately gauge power-levels by Amalgam comics, ey?
So how exactly does the Spectre equal the Living Tribunal?
I mean it's not like Spectre is second only to the Presence.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So how exactly does the Spectre equal the Living Tribunal?
I mean it's not like Spectre is second only to the Presence. Read up on Spectre please. doped

Originally posted by Galan007
Read up on Spectre please. doped
Then guide, direct me. Which issues?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Then guide, direct me. Which issues? Just browse the respect thread.

Isn't there a 10th Dimensional Imp?

Just wondering.

And as for Spectre=LT...Spectre needs to beat Michael or Lucifer for that to happen. LT Is second only to the full omnipotent ruler of Marvel. Spectre, at his max, is like..3rd or 4th next to Presence.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Isn't there a 10th Dimensional Imp?

Just wondering.

And as for Spectre=LT...Spectre needs to beat Michael or Lucifer for that to happen. LT Is second only to the full omnipotent ruler of Marvel. Spectre, at his max, is like..3rd or 4th next to Presence.
Spectre tapped into the Logoz would be (along with the Source and Voice) second only to the Presence.
That's why I belive, Living Tribunal = Spectre Logoz > Spectre

well Lucifers not in the MU but if he wus he'd be second only to the TOAA Lucifer>>>LT and Spectre.

Sure he would.

You keep thinking that.

You all are idiots. Just becuz the LT is second only to his god doesn't mean in the DCU= He would be equal to the one who was 2nd to DC's god. That doesn't make a bit of sense. That is like saying the 2nd best High school football player at Glenbarg South would be equal to every other 2nd best football player at every other school. NOT. Michael, the Merged Spectre, the source, The Logoz, are all superior to the LT.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You all are idiots. Just becuz the LT is second only to his god doesn't mean in the DCU= He would be equal to the one who was 2nd to DC's god. That doesn't make a bit of sense. That is like saying the 2nd best High school football player at Glenbarg South would be equal to every other 2nd best football player at every other school. NOT. Michael, the Merged Spectre, the source, The Logoz, are all superior to the LT.

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Originally posted by starlock
Welcome back

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I mean it's not like Spectre is second only to the Presence.

How do you figure?


Discounting being(s) with God's power/will, ...

Spectre is certainly 2nd only to the Presence IMO.

It's impossible to guage Spectre vs Micheal, as if it comes to a term when Spectre would engage him in combat, Spectre would be going against Gods will -- as Micheal has never been depicted on panel as out of Gods favor, rather always depicted working in Gods name -- and thus will always fall short. But that's not to say that Spectre's not more powerful so much as Spectre is not greater than Gods purpose for him.

I love the Vertigo series, and own them, but I don't benchmark them with DC characters typically.

Originally posted by Juntai
It's impossible to guage Spectre vs Micheal, as if it comes to a term when Spectre would engage him in combat, Spectre would be going against Gods will -- as Micheal has never been depicted on panel as out of Gods favor, rather always depicted working in Gods name -- and thus will always fall short. But that's not to say that Spectre's not more powerful so much as Spectre is not greater than Gods purpose for him. I agree.

Originally posted by Juntai
I love the Vertigo series, and own them, but I don't benchmark them with DC characters typically. IMO, the Vertigo series accturtely displayed Michael's role, and perhaps power, how it was meant to be shown.

Originally posted by Galan007

IMO, the Vertigo series accturtely displayed Michael's role, and perhaps power, how it was meant to be shown. That may be your opinion, but Lucifer isn't in continuity. Thus, I don't compare it with DC depictions of the characters. Vertigo just publishes great stories.

Originally posted by Juntai
That may be your opinion, but Lucifer isn't in continuity. Thus, I don't compare it with DC depictions of the characters. Vertigo just publishes great stories. I realize that.

Which is why I used the abbreviation "IMO".


It may not be in continuity, but I personally think they depicted Michael accurately.... Just saying.

Originally posted by Galan007
I realize that.

Which is why I used the abbreviation "IMO".


It may not be in continuity, but I personally think they depicted Michael accurately.... Just saying.

The Lucifer series is badass. One of my favorites ever since GalacticStorm turned me onto it.

IMO Guy survives 01/10... I.M.O.

i thought it was stated in vertigo that lucifer is above the spectre, in a sandman comic or something. Vertigo should be in continuity since its guys have shown up in DC like in day of judgement

It was shown in a Spectre comic that Michael easily defeated the Spectre, and Lucifer has defeated Michael

Originally posted by Juntai


The Lucifer series is badass. One of my favorites ever since GalacticStorm turned me onto it. It is one of my all time favorites as well.

I love how Lucifer was depicted.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
and Lucifer has defeated Michael There were a lot of variables in that battle which gave Lucifer the edge.

Both of them were weakened but Lucifer still won

Lucifer is certainly more *mature* / experienced

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Both of them were weakened but Lucifer still won Lucifer was possessed by Fenris.

It was still his own power

Originally posted by Endless Mike
It was still his own power But Michael was extremely weak,

And so was Lucifer

Originally posted by Endless Mike
And so was Lucifer But Michael relies on God's graces as his main power source.


So Lucifer was clearly more powerful from the beginning.

Michael still had the Demiurgos (he gave it to Elaine in that arc)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You all are idiots. Just becuz the LT is second only to his god doesn't mean in the DCU= He would be equal to the one who was 2nd to DC's god. That doesn't make a bit of sense. That is like saying the 2nd best High school football player at Glenbarg South would be equal to every other 2nd best football player at every other school. NOT. Michael, the Merged Spectre, the source, The Logoz, are all superior to the LT.
Of course ... Even though lack of features regarding this statement it has to be the DC that has the edge ...

Tell me, what have anyone you mentioned up there done that surpasses the features and statements of the Living Tribunal?

- You're aware of that your statement also makes it possible that the Living Tribunal surpasses them all.

How powerful i Mr mxy in comparison to beings like Ion, Parallax, Anti-monitor and last but not least Spectre

Mxy snatches Quesada's pencil while he isn't looking, and uses it to erase the rest of Tribunals faces, then draws a marraige veil on him, and decorates his intergalactic pimpchair with balloons. Then snickers and dissapears.

Originally posted by Utrigita
How powerful i Mr mxy in comparison to beings like Ion, Parallax, Anti-monitor and last but not least Spectre

wavey

Originally posted by Juntai
Mxy snatches Quesada's pencil while he isn't looking, and uses it to erase the rest of Tribunals faces, then draws a marraige veil on him, and decorates his intergalactic pimpchair with balloons. Then snickers and dissapears.
Some DC author's might have some problem to separate fiction from reality, it might have something to do with "magic flour" Marvel author's however haven't showed anything like that on panel.
Quesada tears the piece of paper Mxyztplk is on.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Some DC author's might have some problem to separate fiction from reality, it might have something to do with "magic flour" Marvel author's however haven't showed anything like that on panel.
Quesada tears the piece of paper Mxyztplk is on. Really..? I seem to recall a Fantastic 4 Issue.. . .

Originally posted by Utrigita
How powerful i Mr mxy in comparison to beings like Ion, Parallax, Anti-monitor and last but not least Spectre

More than all of them. Despite statements to the contrary, World's funniest IS CANON. Mxy's on-panel feats dwarf all of theirs.

2nd, Illa spelled it out pretty well.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I say it's a draw or LT wins. Problem with the premise of the LT character is that, on panel, he has to have a consensus of his three personas and be in accord with his role as multi-versal protector to take any action, where as Mxy is portrayed to act whenever he wants on panel.

The catch, though, is that here, on the forum, if LT is going battle Mxy, it must be assumed and is implied, per forum rules, that his three personas are in consensus and that Mxy must be destroyed, meaning that the on panel plot driven instances of LT holding back his power for the greater good of the multiverse is a non issue and both will be going all out.

LT is simply of a higher standing than Mxy. I can't see Mxy winning.

If LT has the full backing of TOAA, then he probably can take out Mxy. Same with Spectre having the full backing of the Presence. (which rarely occurs.)

Originally posted by Juntai
Really..? I seem to recall a Fantastic 4 Issue.. . .
The writer never let go of the pencil.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
More than all of them. Despite statements to the contrary, World's funniest IS CANON. Mxy's on-panel feats dwarf all of theirs.

2nd, Illa spelled it out pretty well.



If LT has the full backing of TOAA, then he probably can take out Mxy. Same with Spectre having the full backing of the Presence. (which rarely occurs.)
Mxyztplk is highly overrated on these board's, he himself stated that his power was nothing in comperasion to the Anti-Life Equation.
And it's not like Spectre havent defeated him and strpied him out of his power before.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Mxyztplk is highly overrated on these board's, he himself stated that his power was nothing in comperasion to the Anti-Life Equation. When?

Originally posted by Galan007
When?
Thanos_THOTU's bullshit comic #89

Originally posted by Skeets
Thanos_THOTU's bullshit comic #89

Either that, or an Amalgam comic..

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
The writer never let go of the pencil. Seriously... what the f*ck do you even try to argue about most of the time?

Originally posted by Juntai
Mxy snatches Quesada's pencil while he isn't looking, and uses it to erase the rest of Tribunals faces, then draws a marraige veil on him, and decorates his intergalactic pimpchair with balloons. Then snickers and dissapears.
Now how the Hell would he do that?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Now how the Hell would he do that? Like this?

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1993/1gt1.th.jpg http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3882/1yh6.th.jpg


srug

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Now how the Hell would he do that? It's as ridiculous as arguing the she hulk can rip up the comic book.

Some threads are best left alone

Originally posted by guy222
Some threads are best left alone Pretty much.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It's as ridiculous as arguing the she hulk can rip up the comic book.
She-Hulk has been shown in Damage Control to be a crazy who thinks she's a comic book character. Mxy KNOWS he's a comic book character and has ventured into the real world more than once under his own power.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
She-Hulk has been shown in Damage Control to be a crazy who thinks she's a comic book character. Mxy KNOWS he's a comic book character and has ventured into the real world more than once under his own power.
Dr Doom once kidnapped stan lee.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
She-Hulk has been shown in Damage Control to be a crazy who thinks she's a comic book character. Mxy KNOWS he's a comic book character and has ventured into the real world more than once under his own power. So, 4th wall feats mean Jack shit tbh, Dr Doom held Stan Lee hostage when he was editor at Marvel=TOAA.

*EDIT* Damn you Kandy( shakes fist)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
She-Hulk has been shown in Damage Control to be a crazy who thinks she's a comic book character. Mxy KNOWS he's a comic book character and has ventured into the real world more than once under his own power. It still has no place as a legitimate forum tactic. Mxy has been defeated plenty of times in the comics. We stick to comic book powers not flying to the real world even though it still takes place in a comic.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Dr Doom once kidnapped stan lee. At this point I think you should inform omega it didn't really happen. I think he's waiting for mxy to show up as we speak.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It still has no place as a legitimate forum tactic. Mxy has been defeated plenty of times in the comics. We stick to comic book powers not flying to the real world even though it still takes place in a comic.

Exactly what's the difference between Mxy leaving the DCU and entering the real world (but still being in a comic book) and thus ripping apart a comic book or something on that order and someone with the UN hopping to another Universe and nullifying the original one? You're making a distinction that makes no sense. Just as all the LT's appearances are canon for him all of Mxy's appearances are canon. Him being defeated in comics is usually a result of his self-imposed rule.


I am Mxy.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Exactly what's the difference between Mxy leaving the DCU and entering the real world (but still being in a comic book) and thus ripping apart a comic book or something on that order and someone with the UN hopping to another Universe and nullifying the original one? You're making a distinction that makes no sense. Just as all the LT's appearances are canon for him all of Mxy's appearances are canon. Him being defeated in comics is usually a result of his self-imposed rule.


I am Mxy. I don't argue for Lt's showings in a what if. Likewise, I don't argue for the Mxy's showings in an elseworlds. These tactics have no place with discussing legitimate ways in which they beat each other in the comics.

If he has a self imposed rule then he still carries that rule against the Lt. It's in character for him to do so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't argue for Lt's showings in a what if. Likewise, I don't argue for the Mxy's showings in an elseworlds. These tactics have no place with discussing legitimate ways in which they beat each other in the comics.

If he has a self imposed rule then he still carries that rule against the Lt. It's in character for him to do so.
Except in World's Funnest when he destroyed the Fifth Dimension so that it wouldn't happen anymore. Also I believe he just uses the rule so that his interactions with little 3D people will be more interesting and challenging, when dealing with the LT that wouldn't be the case. Even if you don't accept Elseworlds as canon you have to accept Emperor Joker. In that story Mxy explained that the reason the Joker seemed so unbeatable was because unlike Mxy the Joker wasn't limiting himself.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Except in World's Funnest when he destroyed the Fifth Dimension so that it wouldn't happen anymore. Also I believe he just uses the rule so that his interactions with little 3D people will be more interesting and challenging, when dealing with the LT that wouldn't be the case. Even if you don't accept Elseworlds as canon you have to accept Emperor Joker. In that story Mxy explained that the reason the Joker seemed so unbeatable was because unlike Mxy the Joker wasn't limiting himself. Which has nothing to do with Mxy who limits himself. You state it yourself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Which has nothing to do with Mxy who limits himself. You state it yourself.
Its also in Mxy's character to not give a flying ****. Imposing the rule when dealing with Superman is one thing, the LT is another matter entirely.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Its also in Mxy's character to not give a flying ****. Imposing the rule when dealing with Superman is one thing, the LT is another matter entirely. He was defeated by Gog with one blast. he has had his power sapped by far less than the Lt. You said it he imposed limits on himself in character. Lt crushes him.

LT takes mxy to his 16D court to be judged. 5D guy gonna feel veeery small when he gets there lol

why this topic still open btw

Juggernaut once beat up both Stan and Jack.

I guess he's = to Mxy?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Juggernaut once beat up both Stan and Jack.

I guess he's = to Mxy?
Was it canon?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Was it canon?

You bet. Fantastic Four annual v1 #5.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You bet. Fantastic Four annual v1 #5.
Where they actually Stan and Jack or just approximations? Because Mr. Miracle has kicked Funky Flash Man's ass and he was based on Stan Lee.

The names on their hospital beds read: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.