Respekt.......Jason Todd!?

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Martian_mind
Thats right,this is a respect thread for the forgotten,and best Robin.

After his ressurrection his skills have gotten even better,to the point where he can Hold out against Nightwing,Mr freeze,Batman and some random goons all at once.

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(Thats right Digi,i have scans!!)

db_renji
Its about time the Red Hood got respect. However, he didn't hold out against Bats and Nightwing at the same time. He fought Nightwing very briefly and ran (plus Nightwing was already hurt).

But, Jason kicks ass, not as good as Nightwing, but very good. I can't wait for them to use him more. I hope he can do something on the Suicide-Squad.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by db_renji
Its about time the Red Hood got respect. However, he didn't hold out against Bats and Nightwing at the same time. He fought Nightwing very briefly and ran (plus Nightwing was already hurt).

But, Jason kicks ass, not as good as Nightwing, but very good. I can't wait for them to use him more. I hope he can do something on the Suicide-Squad.

He's beaten Nightwing three times already.

I'll post scans Tonight.

Martian_mind
Here's some more.

The first thing Jason Does after being dead is Knock Robin the F**K out.In one hit!!

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Now Jasons glorious unveiling.

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Afterwards Jason switches with Clayface at the Chapel,And i think i have scans where Batman says that he failed if he thought he would pull his punches,and he thinks that Clayface was mimicking Nightwing(Yes Jason is that good an Acrobat.)

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More to come.

Martian_mind
The Wonder years. love

This is some showings of Jason as Robin.

Treats Capt Boomerang and Co like chumps(Note he dodges The Boomerangs with ease)

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Later on,an uber speed feat involving a man,a gun and Jason being faster than a speeding bullet.

Martian_mind
Here it is.If you look you'll see that Jason isn't even facing the guy who shot the bullet,and he still dodges that motha

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Second rate my ass....More comin up.

Martian_mind
Here we have a happy reunion with Joker,Awwww

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Once again just to reinforce his ownage,dodges a bullet that has already left the cartridge without looking at it

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Come monday i'll post every fight with Nightwing....get ready for some ownage.

S-Ranger
Yeah he is amazing does anbody have his stint as Nightwing when he gets captured thats amazing.

SpunkySmurph
The respect thread is very... food. shifty

Martian_mind
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
The respect thread is very... food. shifty

Son of a *****....

Martian_mind
Alright,here's an agility/acrobatics/speed/duability feat.

Red hood is able to escape both Nightwing and Batman whilst Batman comments on how Hood is so good that he doesn't even have to think about his moves...he just makes them.

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That last drop has gotta be like 200ft or something,and he does it without a jumpline.

Martian_mind
Here's an awesome speed feat

Stabs Onyx,a highly trained assasin so fast that she doesn't even realise.

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Pwned.

Here's his first real fight with Batman,he leaps like 12 foot up into the air,is caught in a full on explosion and he still fights batman to a standstill whilst succeeding in ripping bats mask off
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Damn straight....

Martian_mind
Here is a confrontation between Red Hood and some villians.

One is called Hyena and is above peak human in stats,the other is captain Nazi,he's slugged it out with members of the marvel family.

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Red Hood says he was stalling,so i doubt that hyena really had him.I'll post the rest tomorrow as my scanners going haywire.

Martian_mind
Coming soon....every single encounter with Dick grayson!!!

Superguy
Good stuff, Martian. Winick made Jason into a great character IMO, as I never really liked the kid as Robin...

Martian_mind
I know,i thought his return was excellently handled.

Superguy
And those feats truly are awesome... rock Considering his defining moment was basically his death before, I was really surprised that I liked the Red Hood character. What's happened to Jason OYL? I heard he was in Bruce Jones' shitty OYL Nightwing... confused

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Superguy
And those feats truly are awesome... rock Considering his defining moment was basically his death before, I was really surprised that I liked the Red Hood character. What's happened to Jason OYL? I heard he was in Bruce Jones' shitty OYL Nightwing... confused

I'm gonna post scans some time today,basically he was pretending to be nightwing during the missing year,but since he killed the criminals Nightwing was accused of murder.

Nightwing tried to catch him 3-times bt got sent packing every time.Aftertwards he's currently in Outsiders and Green Arrow,i'm about to get the issue where he fights GA big grin

Martian_mind
Here is Jason's First biff against Nightwing,Wing has a broken Hand but at no stage of the battle is Jason even trying,infact he's cracking jokes and asking Nightwing if he wants to team up

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Dick ain't Sh*t compared to jason....

Martian_mind
Here is there Second Confrontation,Jason has stopped a robbery when Nightwing tries to dogshot him,smashing him into the hood of the truck.Jason unfazed by Dicks attack,Kicks Nightwing 15-foot away,rips up a fridge sized peice of equipment one handed,and throws it the 15-foot onto Dick.....one handed

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Peak human stength right there

Martian_mind
This is their final confrontation from that arc,a totally all-out nightwing sneak attacks Jason,who takes being Electrocuted and being smashedinto chairs with a smile on his face,This is the only time Nightwing comes close to a win yet Jason still outmanouvers him by saying if he goes down,Dicks friends don't make it till tomorrow.


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Coming up,thei battle in Outsiders(Going by previous encounters i bet you can gess who wins)
Some psychological Pwnage to Joker
Some Pwnage of Brick(Basically the same As Blockbuster,but what took Dick 80 or so issue's takes Jason 5 pages.)

Martian_mind
Alrighty here's yet another battle between Nightwing and Jason(Damn they throw down don't they?)
In this battle Jason is trying to tell Nightwing that Black lightning is innocent and thus is holding back.

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The fight is ended as soon as Jason goes "Hardcore".Nightwing calls it a stalemate,Jason being the amiable chap he is,reminds Nightwing that he has a gun to his head,while Jason simply has a stick to his neck.

Even an all-out Nightwing loses against Jason when he's holding back.....how sad is that?

Superguy
Wow. Jason is even better OYL... that's pretty scary...

Martian_mind
OYL Jason is only 19 years old....

Wally West
Jason is not > Nightwing. It was stated in the Nightwing comic Dick was holding back against Jason. And I really don't see how that fight in the Outsiders proves anything, Nightwing beat him hand-to-hand and Jason had to pull a gun out, that just reflects badly on Red Hood.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Wally West
Jason is not > Nightwing. It was stated in the Nightwing comic Dick was holding back against Jason. And I really don't see how that fight in the Outsiders proves anything, Nightwing beat him hand-to-hand and Jason had to pull a gun out, that just reflects badly on Red Hood.

....In what occasion does Nightwing holding back even affect his performance?In the first one he has a broken hand,in the Second one He dogshots Jason and then gets owned,Him holding back has nothing to do with it.Jason was the one holding back in outsiders,He just wanted to talk and once he started using his equipment,he got Nightwing into a position where he could kill him with ease.

Jason has been performing at a level beyond anything Dick has since his return,He was the one who brought Black mask to his knee's when Batman was struggling,He was only stopped by Batman because he gave Batman a locale and opportunity and he beat a Blockbuster level character down in one issue when it took Nightwing 80.

I don't want to get into a debate though,so if you have a problem go bump a Vs thread and GTFO my respect thread,Jason has surpassed Dick. Deal with it.

willRules
I'm not gonna knock Jason as it's his respect thread, but you interpretation of Jason winning those fights against Nightwing is very different to mine. I just see a load of stalemates including one time where Dick was injured and one where Jason had the upper hand. yes

But aside from that, yeah respect Jason woo thumb up big grin

Ryonslaught
Jason Todd is fricking awsome! This guy would make a perfect batman and while my own fav Robin is Tim, Jason is just badass!

Respects indeed! eek!

Martian_mind
Originally posted by willRules
I'm not gonna knock Jason as it's his respect thread, but you interpretation of Jason winning those fights against Nightwing is very different to mine. I just see a load of stalemates including one time where Dick was injured and one where Jason had the upper hand. yes

But aside from that, yeah respect Jason woo thumb up big grin


I know,i have a problem with how all their fights are a bit iffy,but Nightwing has yet to come out on Top in any of the encounters,not one.Plus i think the way that Jason acts during all their fights whereas Dick is always pissd implies Jason isn,t giving 100%.Not to mention his current level of abilities,Since his return he hasn't been defintively beaten H2H.

willRules
Fair enough, if that's how you see it yes

Martian_mind
Originally posted by willRules
Fair enough, if that's how you see it yes


Awesome,Doesn't he fight Green Arrow This month.If he does don't tell me how it turns out,I wanna surprise on monday.

Martian_mind
Here is a fight between Jason and Brick,basically Blockbuster on roids and hella more Durable,Jason survives being slammed through a brick wall and mild suffocation.

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So that shows Jasons durability,evasion and equipment.

Martian_mind
F*ck me!!!i just found yet another Todd/Grayson fight.

This is from Nightwing Year one,He has returned to Gotham and he meets Jason for the first time.Jason is actually running the Gauntlet,the initiation test to be Batmans partner,So Jason has little to no experience against an Opponent of Dicks Caliber.Dick caught and Cuffed him.....Jason asked him nicely to let him go,Dick didn't so well....

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....Dick couldn't handle an inexperienced Jason.......As a Nightwing fan i find that depressing....


But as a bigger Jason Fan I'm extatic!!!

willRules
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Awesome,Doesn't he fight Green Arrow This month.If he does don't tell me how it turns out,I wanna surprise on monday.


I probably won't be able to tell you by then because I have missed the last few issue of GA so I'm debating on if to buy it in trade paperback or see if there are the last few issues in the shop yes

Martian_mind
Originally posted by willRules
I probably won't be able to tell you by then because I have missed the last few issue of GA so I'm debating on if to buy it in trade paperback or see if there are the last few issues in the shop yes

Just wait for the TPB.Oh and I won't tell you how it ends,but it's got an awesome Sword-fight between arrow and Jason.

capt it up
who is the best guy he can take the majority?

can he take people like spiderman or wolverine

or people like capt and batman or DD or Black panther?

Or is he more of the level of the swordsmen and punisher

Martian_mind
Originally posted by capt it up
who is the best guy he can take the majority?

can he take people like spiderman or wolverine

or people like capt and batman or DD or Black panther?

Or is he more of the level of the swordsmen and punisher

If you look through he has Gotten the Better of Nightwing 5 times,Smacked down Robin twice,and Stalemated Batman.He is a master Tactician/Manipulator who's savy has let him et the better of GA,Brick and Black Mask....So i'd say he's a Captain America level Villian....he couldn't take him H2H but with his Arsenal i'd give him 6/10 on the good Captain and if he has Prep he extends into a Team Wrecker.

capt it up
Originally posted by Martian_mind
If you look through he has Gotten the Better of Nightwing 5 times,Smacked down Robin twice,and Stalemated Batman.He is a master Tactician/Manipulator who's savy has let him et the better of GA,Brick and Black Mask....So i'd say he's a Captain America level Villian....he couldn't take him H2H but with his Arsenal i'd give him 6/10 on the good Captain and if he has Prep he extends into a Team Wrecker.
so how would he fair vs spiderman and wolverine type characters?

Martian_mind
Originally posted by capt it up
so how would he fair vs spiderman and wolverine type characters?

Well he has the Speed to keep up.....He was able to unsheath a Katana and block an Arrow shot by Green Arrow from 5-foot away,and he was able to rip up a Fridge sized peice of metal one handed,he was durable enough to walk away from a 200-foot fall.....He'd give them both a good fight H2H but definetly lose the Majority,Give him his Dagger,Guns and other Arsenal he can get 4/10.....but if he has even a little prep they both go down,this is a guy who built a bomb so complex Batman couldn't defuse!!

capt it up
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Well he has the Speed to keep up.....He was able to unsheath a Katana and block an Arrow shot by Green Arrow from 5-foot away,and he was able to rip up a Fridge sized peice of metal one handed,he was durable enough to walk away from a 200-foot fall.....He'd give them both a good fight H2H but definetly lose the Majority,Give him his Dagger,Guns and other Arsenal he can get 4/10.....but if he has even a little prep they both go down,this is a guy who built a bomb so complex Batman couldn't defuse!!

I think you over estimate him greatly. I will make a thread later to better gage him, but I have yet to see feats that put him in a level that he could take 4/10 no prep vs either of them

Martian_mind
Originally posted by capt it up
I think you over estimate him greatly. I will make a thread later to better gage him, but I have yet to see feats that put him in a level that he could take 4/10 no prep vs either of them

I would say He could do that to Spidey if he struck before webbing,and Note he carries an incredible Aresenal,Guns,Daggers mini-rocket launchers.....but Wolverinmes healing Factor makes him a ***** to put down,so he has significantly less wins against him than the maybe-4 against spidey. sad

capt it up
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I would say He could do that to Spidey if he struck before webbing,and Note he carries an incredible Aresenal,Guns,Daggers mini-rocket launchers.....but Wolverinmes healing Factor makes him a ***** to put down,so he has significantly less wins against him than the maybe-4 against spidey. sad

I see that sounds pritty could I cant wait to see more from him

Martian_mind
He seems set to take on both Batman and Green Arrow next month,He already had a swordfight against Arrow(an awesome feat considering how good Arrow is wih a blade these days)

capt it up
Originally posted by Martian_mind
He seems set to take on both Batman and Green Arrow next month,He already had a swordfight against Arrow(an awesome feat considering how good Arrow is wih a blade these days)
I heard green arrow was the superior h2h fighter to batman these days

Martian_mind
Indeed....he threw down with Deathstroke,and if memory serves actually took the win..

capt it up
he reminds me of a DC winter soldier

Martian_mind
Damn straight...

willRules
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Just wait for the TPB.Oh and I won't tell you how it ends,but it's got an awesome Sword-fight between arrow and Jason.

Sounds cool yes

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Indeed....he threw down with Deathstroke,and if memory serves actually took the win..

Yes but GA had a prep advantage. It's in the GA respect thread for anyone who want's to see the fight, Accell posted the fight there yes

Disappear
a little nitpick. actually, two. the "refridgerator sized" piece of metal was smaller and thinner than any refridgerator i've ever seen. that just seems like misleading lingo. also, if you look, brick doesn't throw him through the wall at all. he throws him into it, then punches through it on the next page.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by Disappear
a little nitpick. actually, two. the "refridgerator sized" piece of metal was smaller and thinner than any refridgerator i've ever seen. that just seems like misleading lingo. also, if you look, brick doesn't throw him through the wall at all. he throws him into it, then punches through it on the next page.

Well it was big enough to cover Nightwing and it looked Solid the whole way through....plus i said it was fridge sized,not fridge weight.

My bad,but he does get slammed into the wall,which probably would've hurt like a b*tch.

DarkCrawler
Wow, Jason is pretty badass.

Those Nightwing fights (except the one where Jason is Robin) are from a run which is notoriously know of portraying the worst Nightwing ever so I'd take them with a grain of salt...but otherwise, good feats.

I don't see Jason taking many wins over Spider-man, though.

Martian_mind
eek! Holy Sh*t Darkcrawler acknowledged my respect thread....





Party at Blairs house!!!!

Martian_mind
Not just content with being a pretty face on a rippling sinewy body,Jason is also a master of the human psyche,being the only person to see through the Jokers facade of insanity.....and pwning him a little.

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(This is what happens after Jason beat the living daylights out of Joker earlier.)

Martian_mind
Not just an uber psychologist,Jason is a Demolitions expert,capable of builing a bomb so complex Batman can't defuse it.

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Damn that kid got good....

Superguy
Must... resist... posting... Death in the Family...

olympian
Good call. In that story he was wailing at Joker until his two bodyguards sneaked on him. The fact alone he survives the beating its a nice durability feat. Just like surviving another beating at the hands of a raging mob in "Legends".

Hardly anything low there, in my view devil

If anyone gets the Alan Davis Batman run, you have Jason making Joker an idiot in one issue. Blast if i can remember the number tho.

The "Cult" also has good feats. Saving Batman against the underworld savage cult was one of the highligthts.

And im not certain, but was Jason the Robin in Batman "Full circle", aka the sequel to "Batman year 2"? Hes called Dick in the trade, but the way he acts its totally Jason`s. I wonder if its a porpused typo or not.

Martian_mind
*Spoiler's*Anyone who hasn't read Green Arrow this month avoid this post.

This is Red Hood Vs Green Arrow,Jason's intent is to distract GA,not beat him and he is holding back.

Feats to look for:Moves his arms out of the Arrows way.Blocks an Arrow shot from like 5foot away by unsheathing a Katana and pulling it infront and holds his own whilst holding back against Ga in a swordfight.

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Anyone who hasn't looked through the thread would think that the fight was over,but as always,Jason purposely let that happen.

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All this for one girl........
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Damn he's good.....

colossus34
Hey Martian I'm all for subjective interpretations of comics but some of your descriptions of the feats is WAY over exaggerated. Particulary, the fights with Nightwing. Todd has never won any clear fight with Grayson, EVER, not to mention in that lame Bruce Jones arc not only is Dick's hand injured we find out explicitly from the writer in a scene that Dick is holding back in every fight with Todd becuase he feels sorry/sympathy for him. Pretty sad actually. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Martian_mind
I said how his hand was broken,and i have addressed the holding back thing earlier in the thread,not to mention JKasons performing at a far higher level than Nightwing since his return,and even Jason was holding back because he has shown willingness to kill anyone,even Batman,but he never even tried to kill Dick and just escaped/pwned Dick rather than stay,when he has CLEARLY SHOWN that he has the competency to beat Dick.

Your like the third person coming in here and complaining about the Nightwing arc,even if it was a Piss-poor excuse for a comic,Jasons been rougher and tougher than Dick for years,and the next Dick Grayson fan who comes in hear and starts bitching and subtly insulting the character it's about gets reported.

Thankyou,now F*ck off.

chilled monkey
Originally posted by colossus34
Hey Martian I'm all for subjective interpretations of comics but some of your descriptions of the feats is WAY over exaggerated. Particulary, the fights with Nightwing. Todd has never won any clear fight with Grayson, EVER, not to mention in that lame Bruce Jones arc not only is Dick's hand injured we find out explicitly from the writer in a scene that Dick is holding back in every fight with Todd becuase he feels sorry/sympathy for him. Pretty sad actually. roll eyes (sarcastic)

No offence, but what the heck are you talking about? Jason has beaten him FIVE times (or at the very least come out ahead). Just because Dick wasn't killed/KO'ed etc doesn't mean they weren't victories. Each time Jason got in the last shot and then left while he was ahead. He has had several chances to kill Dick and chose not to take them. Dick has never once gotten the better of him.

When the score is 5-0 that should tell you something.

Martian_mind: This is a really good thread with some great scans. Nice work.

Martian_mind
Originally posted by chilled monkey
No offence, but what the heck are you talking about? Jason has beaten him FIVE times (or at the very least come out ahead). Just because Dick wasn't killed/KO'ed etc doesn't mean they weren't victories. Each time Jason got in the last shot and then left while he was ahead. He has had several chances to kill Dick and chose not to take them. Dick has never once gotten the better of him.

When the score is 5-0 that should tell you something.

Martian_mind: This is a really good thread with some great scans. Nice work.

.....I love you.....

colossus34
Originally posted by chilled monkey
No offence, but what the heck are you talking about? Jason has beaten him FIVE times (or at the very least come out ahead). Just because Dick wasn't killed/KO'ed etc doesn't mean they weren't victories. Each time Jason got in the last shot and then left while he was ahead. He has had several chances to kill Dick and chose not to take them. Dick has never once gotten the better of him.

When the score is 5-0 that should tell you something.

Martian_mind: This is a really good thread with some great scans. Nice work.

Wow u really are delusional roll eyes (sarcastic)

Alfheim
Originally posted by Martian_mind
.....I love you.....

Martian, I gotta take my hat off to you. This thread kickass and so does Jason. I had no idea he was so badass. I will be looking to get more stuff on this character when I start seriously collecting again.

I dont think people realise that being able to create a device that Batman cant figure out is uber badass. As far as I know Batman has outsmarted Darkseid.

Im hooked im a red hood fan.

outavodka
Originally posted by Alfheim
Martian, I gotta take my hat off to you. This thread kickass and so does Jason. I had no idea he was so badass. I will be looking to get more stuff on this character when I start seriously collecting again.

I dont think people realise that being able to create a device that Batman cant figure out is uber badass. As far as I know Batman has outsmarted Darkseid.

Im hooked im a red hood fan. I second this!! Happy Dance

Martian_mind
I love you both!!!!


Soon i'll have some scans of him as a child,and probably another Fight with Batman or GA.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I love you both!!!!


Soon i'll have some scans of him as a child,and probably another Fight with Batman or GA.

Jason has to get his own series. It will be madness if he doesn't.

Martian_mind
I know....that would be totally insane.

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by Alfheim
Jason has to get his own series. It will be madness if he doesn't.
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I know....that would be totally insane.

So it would be madness if he doesn't, but insanity if he does... hmm

Martian_mind
Therefore,they have to give him at least a mini.

Alfheim
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Therefore,they have to give him at least a mini.

That sounds likely and maybe they will progress to a series.

chilled monkey
Originally posted by colossus34
Wow u really are delusional roll eyes (sarcastic)

Actually, you are.

When your opponent kicks you away and then throws a hefty piece of machinery onto you (even though you had the element of surprise), it's pretty clear you've lost.

Likewise, if your opponent slashes your hand, dropping you onto a fire escape and then leaves while you're lying there stunned, again, you've lost.

olympian
Originally posted by colossus34
Hey Martian I'm all for subjective interpretations of comics but some of your descriptions of the feats is WAY over exaggerated. Particulary, the fights with Nightwing. Todd has never won any clear fight with Grayson, EVER, not to mention in that lame Bruce Jones arc not only is Dick's hand injured we find out explicitly from the writer in a scene that Dick is holding back in every fight with Todd becuase he feels sorry/sympathy for him. Pretty sad actually. roll eyes (sarcastic)
And that would only work bad against Jason if he was being serious against Grayson in that run.

He wasent. Most of the matches there its him pissing off Grayson just for the fun of it.

Martian_mind
once i'm done with a new respect thread i'm compiling I'll show him casually battling Speedy,just standing there and slashing her arrows after they've been shot but before they hit him.

SpunkySmurph
I haven't seen this in here:

Red Hood takes on Robin (Tim)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim2.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim3.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim4.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim5.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim6.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim7.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim8.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim9.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim10.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/DC/Scans/HoodvsTim11.jpg

B!tch goes down.

Martian_mind
Ty smurf king


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Martian_mind
Wow,my first respect thread.

I know it's been awhile since an udate,but here we go.


A nice bunch of feats here,as Todd is effortlessely slashing speedies arrows out of the air,trying to provoke her to kill him,when she tries to,he shows that he could have stopped it immediatly,by shooting her bowstring in half.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic321.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic322.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic323.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic324.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic325.jpg

Here he has a swordfight with her,giving her two Katana whilst fending her off armed with only his trusty dagger.You can see his intention was not to harm her,as he was teaching her a lesson and doesn't kill her at the end.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic326.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic327.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic328.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic329.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic330.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic331.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic332.jpg

Martian_mind
Another update.Here is Jason as Robin.

To pheadophilia towards children,Jason says no!!

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic333.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic334.jpg

To dirty arab terrorists,Jason says no!!!

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic335.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic336.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic337.jpg

Jason and Batman are training,Jason throws Batman to the mat,though obviously Bats isn't trying that hard.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic338.jpg

This Scan shows Jasons amazing will and damage soak even as a child.Beaten near death with a crowbar,he is able to stand and untie his mother,a medically trained proffesional who is amazed that he's alive,let alone walking.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic339.jpg

CasanoVa
I hate Red Hood, bring him Jason sucked, I wish they hadn't.

But this is a good thread, you did a good job of it thumb up

Martian_mind
Originally posted by CasanoVa
I hate Red Hood, bring him Jason sucked, I wish they hadn't.

But this is a good thread, you did a good job of it thumb up


Thank you.This is all one assholes fault.when they did the kill Jason poll,some ass set his phone to auto-dial for "kill" so that it rang once a minute..kill only one by a hundred or so votes,so i guess the vast majority voted live.


Bastard,if not for him i'd have another 19 years worth of Jasony goodness!!!

............

Anyway,here's some more.This is when Jason takes over as Nightwing,stopping some robbers,hard.I like how in the last two panels of the second scan he calls the rest of the bat-boys a bunch of pussies.He kills the baddies btw.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic340.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic341.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomic342.jpg

SpunkySmurph
Up

SpunkySmurph
JT (leftright) dispatches with ease a group of armed techno ninjas.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/CTDWN_50-5.jpg

pr1983
JT indeed... stick out tongue

SpunkySmurph
Oh, don't fool yourself PR, you just know he's bringing sexy back.

pr1983
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Oh, don't fool yourself PR, you just know he's bringing sexy back.

who said i was arguing? stick out tongue

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by pr1983
who said i was arguing? stick out tongue ...

I tried to bring sexy back, but the receipt had expired. ermmfrown

pr1983
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
...

I tried to bring sexy back, but the receipt had expired. ermmfrown

lol...

i've never had that problem, sexy never left me...

SevenShackles
wasnt his mother like some sort of turbo B*tch? willing to let him die and what not. i dont remember so well.

chilled monkey
Originally posted by Martian_mind

Here he has a swordfight with her,giving her two Katana whilst fending her off armed with only his trusty dagger.You can see his intention was not to harm her,as he was teaching her a lesson and doesn't kill her at the end.


I'm no expert, but those looked more like wakizashi (short swords) than katanas to me. Still very impressive though.

I'm not sure but I think I read somewhere that kris daggers (wavy blades) are not considered to be very efficient weapons. Being able to fight effectively with a kris takes a lot of skill. Holding off someone wielding swords with one is really impressive.

Martian_mind
Alright,the first update in months is here!!

This is from Batmans 25th annual,and shows just what a tough bastard Jason was even as a child.

Here is when Jason is resurrected,still in his coffin.He digs his way out using nothing but his belt-buckle and barehands,before walking 12 and a half miles with a fractured skull,broken sternum,a collapsed lung and forty other fractures..and this is when he's just a kid.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics001-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics002-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics003-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics004-1.jpg

Here's the hospital review that confirms his injuries.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics005-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics006-1.jpg

Running on pure willpower and instinct,Jason who is suposed to be in a vegatative state,escapes the hospital and manages to survive on the street.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics007-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics008-1.jpg

Jason gets blindesided by some hobo,who awakes the sleeping giant.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics009-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics010-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics011-1.jpg

Just after he's been rejuvenated in a Lazarus pit,he survives being pushed of a water fall,and swims to shore.(He also gets some of Bruces woman)

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics013-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics014-1.jpg

Here it shows that he went around the wrorld and learnt from the people that taught Batman.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics015-1.jpg

And as a result of this training,he's able to block some point-blank Batarangs from a commmie Batman,by throwing a whole freaking table at them big grin

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=Jimscomics-1.jpg

SaintSmurph
Sweet scans. thumb up

Grinning Goku
Originally posted by Martian_mind
Not just content with being a pretty face on a rippling sinewy body,

I hope you didn't come up with that description.

Martian_mind
Commet on the threads uberness,not my sexual orientation ( whistle )

Here are some more scans.

Jason one-shots a zombie.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=image-1-1.jpg

We know that since he was fine afterwords,he atleast stalemated Grifter.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=image-2.jpg

Dodges a crapload of bullets from engineer.

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=image1.jpg

Here we see he takes on a giant bat thing,is unfazed after being thrown into a cart,and then whomps it with what looks like quite a heft of wood.(Blue beetle interferes at the end)

http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=image-2-1.jpg
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/?action=view&current=image-3.jpg

Philosophía
With Bruce gone, Jason makes his presence felt in Gotham

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Jason1.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Jason2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Jason3.jpg

"Varied but brutal style of fighting, from grappling and martial arts tehniques, to expert marksman skills."
He moved too fast for three people to get a clear look on him. Leaves clues in order for the others to find him.

Hell yeah. big grin

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Jason4.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_Jason5.jpg

Stryder Hiryu
Damn I've caught this late could you re-up some of the earlier stuff

Ryonslaught
man this thread needs an update ..most of the link no longer work either
Respect the Toddmeister for life!

DrDoomsday-360
damn all the scans are not there anymore

Martian_mind
For everyone wondering, The links are broken as i reorganised my Photobucket. I'll re-upload them all, along with some updates,into a new thread so there's less spam and more structure.

I have his every post-crisis appearence,so it will be very comprehensive.

Zacker
I can't see any of the scans man.

Dum Dum Dugan

Zacker
Yeah it was

Vanguard
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