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This post and others got me thinking.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
For me None....

I'd rather much be like Batman or Iron Man. Mastering martial arts and developing a high intellect on science and criminialogy. Also to make and build my own weapons and gadgets.

When I first started reading Marvel comics seriously, I wanted to be a mutant. Why, because mutants are born with powers...obvoulsy.

Recently though ive been thinking some of the most dangerous people in Marvel are humans ie Dr Doom, Iron Man, Reed Richards etc. It seems if you are smart enough you dont need powers you can just build gadgets.....or like the High Evolutinary you can use science to give you powers.

If humans can train hard enough they can still own mutants, for example Bullseye has owned Gambit before.

Then if all fails you can learn magic like Dr Strange or develop mental powers like Moondragon.

Sure mutants like Magneto are extremely dangerous but if you are born mutant this doesnt always give you an advantage. A determined human can be more powerful or just as powerful as a mutant.

Once you get past Iron Man level, mutants are notoriously hard to come by. There's only a handful of them....so usually there's a drop-off in how far you can go power-wise as a mutant.

And they smell.

HoM 2. Kill all mutants. Bring it back Marvel.

-Digi out.
-Down with mutants.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Once you get past Iron Man level, mutants are notoriously hard to come by. There's only a handful of them....so usually there's a drop-off in how far you can go power-wise as a mutant.


And they smell.

HoM 2. Kill all mutants. Bring it back Marvel.

-Digi out.
-Down with mutants.

If their genes aint proper send them back to Genosha....well thats what I say.

Originally posted by Alfheim
A determined human can be more powerful or just as powerful as a mutant. That depends on which mutant(s) we are talking about.

People like MJJ, franklyn, and Wanda are classified as mutants.

No human in comics can make himself/herself as powerful as those uber-beings, (under their own power and determination of course).

Originally posted by Galan007
That depends on which mutant(s) we are talking about.

People like MJJ, franklyn, and Wanda are classified as mutants.

No human in comics can make himself/herself as powerful as those uber-beings, (under their own power and determination of course).

Unless they go find the IG/Cosmic Cube or something

KILL THE MUTIES
KILL THE MUTIES

HoM 2. House of M one was a disgrace, a sequel would be an abomination. I had always wished myself to be a mutant.

KILL THE MONKEYS
KILL THE MONKEYS
I MEAN
KILL THE MUTIES

Originally posted by willRules
KILL THE MONKEYS
KILL THE MONKEYS
I MEAN
KILL THE MUTIES



angrymob

HE'S ONE OF 'EM

Originally posted by Redatom65
HoM 2. House of M one was a disgrace, a sequel would be an abomination. I had always wished myself to be a mutant. Really?

I actually liked HOM. The were a bit too many tie-ins, but I thought the main stories were good.

I don't really want to read HoM 2...I just want the filthy muties gone.

Originally posted by Galan007
That depends on which mutant(s) we are talking about.

People like MJJ, franklyn, and Wanda are classified as mutants.

No human in comics can make himself/herself as powerful as those uber-beings, (under their own power and determination of course).

Why not the High Evolutinary, Dr Strange and Moondragon gave themselves their own powers? Dr Strange beat The Inbetweener without any prep.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Why not the High Evolutinary, Dr Strange and Moondragon gave themselves their own powers? Dr Strange beat The Inbetweener without any prep. This is more suited for another thread, but Wanda and MJJ are far beyond any being you just listed.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I don't really want to read HoM 2...I just want the filthy muties gone.

Why the Mutie hate?

Originally posted by Galan007
Why the Mutie hate?

They're freaks of nature, insults to God's divine plan and they're a danger to our children.

Originally posted by Galan007
This is more suited for another thread,

No this thread is fine. This is what this thread is for.

Originally posted by Galan007

but Wanda and MJJ are far beyond any being you just listed.

What above the Inbetweener?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They're freaks of nature, insults to God's divine plan and they're a danger to our children. Ohhh, well in that case........ Down with the filthy Muties!





Originally posted by Alfheim
What above the Inbetweener? Yep,

Wanda (HOM) and MJJ are well above I-B.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
angrymob

HE'S ONE OF 'EM

Destroy that mutant freak! They're EVIIIILLLLLLL!!! All of 'em!!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/02.jpg

*looks at Evil_Ash's avy and sig*

Hey wait a second . . .

I prefer the term "Metahuman".

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I prefer the term "Metahuman".


Mutant lover!


Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
*looks at Evil_Ash's avy and sig*

Hey wait a second . . .

HE is no mutant

most Mutants suck

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
HE is no mutant

Evolved human being . . . "evolves" creatures into new mutated forms . . .

Originally posted by Priest
most Mutants suck Agreed.

Still, some Mutants kick ass IMO.

Originally posted by Galan007
Agreed.

Still, some Mutants kick ass IMO.
Only the uber ones ..
Guys above magneto and Vulcan rock. Ice man is pretty cool too.

Originally posted by Galan007


Wanda (HOM) and MJJ are well above I-B.

****. Thats insane, anyway they are the exception to the rule. Still cant see how somebody cant be that powerful over time eventhough its never been done before I don think.

Originally I dont think mutants were that powerful either.

Originally posted by Galan007
Why the Mutie hate?

I need someone to be an "anti-fanboy" of.

And I really can't get into X-Men comics. At all. I loved the old cartoons, but since getting into comics mutants have become....an annoyance...to my reading.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I need someone to be an "anti-fanboy" of.

And I really can't get into X-Men comics. At all. I loved the old cartoons, but since getting into comics mutants have become....an annoyance...to my reading.
yeah their show on fox kicked ass,
but Fox's Spiderman was way way better

Originally posted by Priest
Only the uber ones ..
Guys above magneto and Vulcan rock. Ice man is pretty cool too.

The powerful Muties are by far the best IMO.Originally posted by Alfheim
****. Thats insane, anyway they are the exception to the rule. Still cant see how somebody cant be that powerful over time eventhough its never been done before I don think.

Originally I dont think mutants were that powerful either. Yeah Wanda and MJJ are definitely an exception to the rule.

Any other Mutants aren't, nor should they be, so powerful that they can play around with entire Universes like a childs' Lego set.


Putting the uber-powerful Muties aside, it is possible for humans to achieve the same powerset, through a mixture of tech, intelligence, and determination imo.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I need someone to be an "anti-fanboy" of.

And I really can't get into X-Men comics. At all. I loved the old cartoons, but since getting into comics mutants have become....an annoyance...to my reading.

Agree entirely.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I need someone to be an "anti-fanboy" of.

And I really can't get into X-Men comics. At all. I loved the old cartoons, but since getting into comics mutants have become....an annoyance...to my reading. Yeah, I'll be honest...... There are very few Mutants I like.

Actually Wanda, MJJ, and Franklyn pretty much sum up the only Mutants I follow closely.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Evolved human being.

But how does that make him a mutant?

Mutants are ones born with the ' X-Factor' in their DNA.

HE has just evolved himself to the state humans will become in the next bazillion years, although, his absolute evolved form is that of a bodiless being of cohesive mental energy. Yeah he's 'a bit' different, but that doesn't make him a mutant

Originally posted by Galan007


Putting the uber-powerful Muties aside, it is possible for humans to achieve the same powerset, through a mixture of tech, intelligence, and determination imo.

Agreed, thats my point.

Originally posted by Galan007
Wanda (HOM) and MJJ are well above I-B.

Mojo Jo-Jo is above the Inbetweener?

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
But how does that make him a mutant?

Mutants are ones born with the ' X-Factor' in their DNA.

HE has just evolved himself to the state humans will become in the next bazillion years, although, his absolute evolved form is that of a bodiless being of cohesive mental energy. Yeah he's 'a bit' different, but that doesn't make him a mutant

Hmmm he could be a mutant on the same level as Mister Immortal then ?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Mojo Jo-Jo is above the Inbetweener?

Have you been under a rock?

Of course he is!

That friggin Chimp pwns ALL!!!!! evillaugh

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
But how does that make him a mutant?

Mutants are ones born with the ' X-Factor' in their DNA.

HE has just evolved himself to the state humans will become in the next bazillion years, although, his absolute evolved form is that of a bodiless being of cohesive mental energy. Yeah he's 'a bit' different, but that doesn't make him a mutant

He's a mutie cause he's different.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
angrymob

HE'S ONE OF 'EM


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH I have been found out that I'm really a MONKEY!!!

oh......I mean MUTIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

fear chair

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Once you get past Iron Man level, mutants are notoriously hard to come by. There's only a handful of them....so usually there's a drop-off in how far you can go power-wise as a mutant.

And they smell.

HoM 2. Kill all mutants. Bring it back Marvel.

-Digi out.
-Down with mutants.

The worst part is that I agree completely.

X-Men characters get so overrated on forums it tends to make me sick.

I can think of two X-men who get soo incredibly underrated on these forums........ Beast and Xavier

Originally posted by willRules
I can think of two X-men who get soo incredibly underrated on these forums........ Beast and Xavier

Beast maybe but Xavier not so much.

Personally I'd say beast gets a bit overrated at times, and Xavier is tough to pin down...

So, how would everyone feel if I told them that they were ALL mutants!!!!!

But ya, as said above, X men comics are not really that interesting, the cartoon was .

*points to own sig and avatar* Need you ask who I think is underrated?

And mutants are pretty cool, but I'm with digi and Galan, 75-85% of them suck. There are some mutants who are really cool even if their powers aren't uber, and alot who just plain suck. There are a few who are really cool, like Gambit, Wolverine when he's not being hyped, Agent Zero, Omega Red, but the best ones get left in the dust and punks like Cyclops get the most pages.


And Xaiver sucks. Except as Onslaught.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Beast maybe but Xavier not so much.

Well everyone and there mother is now a telepath in the mutant world now, so it seems the bald guy in the wheelchair is at a disadvantage to everyone. Everybody neglects the fact that Xavier has tons and tons of experience and is incredibly cunning because it is easier to say something stupid like Aquaman is the better telepath

Sorry, just my rant for the day

Gambit sucks.

As does Apocalypse.

Astonishing X-Men is an excellent comic.

Liking characters because they have super mega awesome-o power is imo rather dumb.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Liking characters because they have super mega awesome-o power is imo rather dumb.



Not it's not (but it is quite Freudian)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos


Not it's not (but it is quite Freudian) doped

Yes it is.

Inane characters like Vulcan or Sentry have followings of people who like them purely because of their displays of power, when their characters are rather, for lack of a better word, crap.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
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Yes it is.

Inane characters like Vulcan or Sentry have followings of people who like them purely because of their displays of power, when their characters are rather, for lack of a better word, crap.

I agree on the Vulcan part. I like Sentry, but I have a bias for Peter David's writing.

I think the X-Men writers even realized Vulcan sucked, thus Glads wtfpwning him (which is sooooo funny)

But yeah, most X-Men get soooo overrated it's stupid.

Gambit sucks
Colossus is so uninteresting it's ridiculous
Wolverine is a joke nowadays.
Storm is overrated in every way, shape, and form.
Cyclops is still pretty 2-D
Emma Frost is a whore.

The only reason I read Uncanny X-Men is for the sake of Beast and Kitty Pryde, both who are amazing characters when in the hands of someone like Whedon.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
doped

Yes it is. I personally don't think so.

Wanda and MJJ are my favorite Muties (whom also happen to be ridiculously powerful).

I don't like these characters just for their displays of power. I like the character depth they bring to the story as well.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
I agree on the Vulcan part. I like Sentry, but I have a bias for Peter David's writing.

I think the X-Men writers even realized Vulcan sucked, thus Glads wtfpwning him (which is sooooo funny)

But yeah, most X-Men get soooo overrated it's stupid.

Gambit sucks
Colossus is so uninteresting it's ridiculous
Wolverine is a joke nowadays.
Storm is overrated in every way, shape, and form.
Cyclops is still pretty 2-D
Emma Frost is a whore.

The only reason I read Uncanny X-Men is for the sake of Beast and Kitty Pryde, both who are amazing characters when in the hands of someone like Whedon. Emma Frost is an exquisite interesting whore. doped

She's the yin to Shadowcat's yang.

Other than Storm and Wolverine I can't really pinpoint any particular X-Men that are too overrated; at least not compared to a lot of other characters.

Astonishing is good. X-Factor is good.
Adjectiveless is average. I like Mystique.
Uncanny is still meh.

Agreed on Kitty and Beast.Originally posted by Galan007
I personally don't think so.

Wanda and MJJ are my favorite Muties (whom also happen to be ridiculously powerful).

I don't like these characters just for their displays of power. I like the character depth they bring to the story as well. Yeah, but that wasn't my point, which was there are people who like characters purely for displays of power - it doesn't even need to be a character who has universal reality warping abilities. Take for example Wolverine, he has lots of depth of character and when written right is very interesting. But there are fans who are purely fans because he revives himself from being a skeleton etc.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Emma Frost is an exquisite interesting whore. doped

She's the yin to Shadowcat's yang.

Other than Storm and Wolverine I can't really pinpoint any particular X-Men that are too overrated; at least not compared to a lot of other characters.

Astonishing is good. X-Factor is good.
Adjectiveless is average.
Uncanny is still meh.

Agreed on Kitty and Beast. .

She's only interesting because of her boobs.

Anywho, though people do like the X-men for their powers and feats, the funniest part is the fact that their favorites are nowhere near top of the league.

Storm is trumped by Thor and Bill
Wolverine is trumped by folks like Deathstroke and Gamora
Colossus is a f#@%ing flea compared to Hulk.
etc, etc.

Liking X-men characters for power level is just flat out stupid, because there is always someone out there that is sooo much more powerful.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yeah, but that wasn't my point, which was there are people who like characters purely for displays of power - it doesn't even need to be a character who has universal reality warping abilities. Take for example Wolverine, he has lots of depth of character and when written right is very interesting. But there are fans who are purely fans because he revives himself from being a skeleton etc. Okay, that makes more sense now.

The reason I responded is because I was one of the people whom said that I like the uber-powerful Muties more then the others.

I didn't know if your posts were an indirect response to what I had said, so I thought I'd clear that up if it in fact was the case, (though I know now..... it wasn't).

My bad.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
She's only interesting because of her boobs. I like bad girl gone good e.g. Frost and Mystique, both of whom have tried to kill the X-Men, both in the past and recently. So does Whedon, which is why he writes her well.

Cyclops doesn't really suck. He's a great leader and also a role model for the young mutants.

Wolvie is just bitter he didn't get a piece of Jean. Scott does...every day all night long.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Cyclops doesn't really suck. He's a great leader and also a role model for the young mutants.

Wolvie is just bitter he didn't get a piece of Jean. Scott does...every day all night long. Considering Jean's dead (again) that's kind of gross.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Considering Jean's dead (again) that's kind of gross.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Considering Jean's dead (again) that's kind of gross.



Cyclops is a good leader, put he's a pretty 2-D character.

Oh she'll be back. They always do (specially her) ....Jean is the most beautiful character in Marvel at least IMO.

Meh...going off topic guys.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
But how does that make him a mutant?

Mutants are ones born with the ' X-Factor' in their DNA.

HE has just evolved himself to the state humans will become in the next bazillion years, although, his absolute evolved form is that of a bodiless being of cohesive mental energy. Yeah he's 'a bit' different, but that doesn't make him a mutant
Mutants are also creatures that have been mutated. I had a discussion on this some time back where I desperately tried to explain to some guy why Spiderman was a mutant because he was mutated but not a Mutant because he didn't have the "x-gene" or whatever that puts him in that group.

Not smart enough to build my own gadgets and such, and not focused enough to push my body to the pinnacle of human perfection. Ergo, mutant powers are right up my alley. Mutants rock!!!

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
Mutants rock!!!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/01.jpg

Originally posted by TricksterPriest


u become a celestial