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who wins?

I think Slade has a speed and tech adavantage so I'll give him the win for now.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think Slade has a speed and tech adavantage so I'll give him the win for now.
None of that has helped him much while fighting superior MA such as night wing, batman, bat girl and so on

TM also has a history of getting screwed even though he should be borderline invincible in terms of MA.

Good and interesting match. Slade does have a lot of speed, while Taskmaster have those photographic reflexes. I think after a nice fight, Deathstroke the terminator wins.

Originally posted by capt it up
None of that has helped him much while fighting superior MA such as night wing, batman, bat girl and so on

Yes it did. He's got a nice winning record against batman - he normally stomps him.

And Batgirl couldn't even read slade.

The only reason Nightwing is even a nuisance to him is because Dick knows EXACTLY how Slade works, after studying and tracking him for so long.

Originally posted by Soljer
The only reason Nightwing is even a nuisance to him is because Dick knows EXACTLY how Slade works, after studying and tracking him for so long.
TaskMaster would probally know exactly how slade works after 20 seconds of fighting.

Originally posted by Priest
TaskMaster would probally know exactly how slade works after 20 seconds of fighting.

Not exactly, he would have absolute knowledge of every technique Slade used in those 20 seconds.

With time he could extrapolate Slade's potential abilities but not until well into the fight I would think.

Originally posted by Priest
TaskMaster would probally know exactly how slade works after 20 seconds of fighting.



As Symmetric pointed out, Taskmaster would be able to perfectly duplicate any fighting maneuvers that Slade used, but he'd be entirely unable to keep up with Slade's superior strength and speed.

Besides that, who knows if Taskmaster's ability would even work? It's failed to work in the past, and Slade was able to fool Cass' reading ability - why not Taskmasters'?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not exactly, he would have absolute knowledge of every technique Slade used in those 20 seconds.
With time he could extrapolate Slade's potential abilities but not until well into the fight I would think.
I pretty sure TaskMaster has the ability to copy and even predict most martial art techniques.
Capt, can u varify that?

Originally posted by Soljer
Yes it did. He's got a nice winning record against batman - he normally stomps him.

And Batgirl couldn't even read slade.

The only reason Nightwing is even a nuisance to him is because Dick knows EXACTLY how Slade works, after studying and tracking him for so long.
Slade has never stomped batman or cass or nightwing. Each one always gives him hell. Slade only wins due to superior stats, but it is never an easy fight and batman always gives him hell. Some times night wing even comes out on top. Cass even well unable to read his moves still gave him hell. His lack of MA skill hurts him greatly while fighting people with inferior stats. What slade gunna do when he facing some one far more skilled then he and has roughly the same stats

Roughly the same stats? Are you stoned?

I demand you go read long pig's submissions in the Deathstroke respect thread. Physically, taskmaster is leagues below him.

Originally posted by Priest
I pretty sure TaskMaster has the ability to copy and even predict most martial art techniques.
Capt, can u varify that?
yes he can there is no evidence to suggest TM move reading ability would not work on slade

Originally posted by Soljer
Roughly the same stats? Are you stoned?

I demand you go read long pig's submissions in the Deathstroke respect thread. Physically, taskmaster is leagues below him.
Long pig also thinks slade can run as fast as flash for a few steps which is BS. I don't care what Long pig says. Many of death strokes feats are simply PIS simple as that. Death stroke has trouble time and time again with MA's. Though it is true detah stroke is far superior in strength his speed advantage is not so great when TM can perfectly mimic spidermans and DD movements by amping his speed into the superhuman ranges


wow for a second I thought I was in the midnighter vs deathstroke thread lol

Slade wins the majority.


PS Slade has taken it to Batman, WonderWoman, Flash, Kid Flash etc etc
he is spanking Taskmaster.

Originally posted by capt it up
Long pig also thinks slade can run as fast as flash for a few steps which is BS. I don't care what Long pig says. Many of death strokes feats are simply PIS simple as that. Death stroke has trouble time and time again with MA's. Though it is true detah stroke is far superior in strength his speed advantage is not so great when TM can perfectly mimic spidermans and DD movements by amping his speed into the superhuman ranges


wow for a second I thought I was in the midnighter vs deathstroke thread lol

Deathstrokes feats are PIS? What? He's been reacting to flashes for his ENTIRE RUN.

The argument you're making is the same one that people try to use against Wolverine; "He shouldn't be able to hang with the Hulk! It's PIS!" He's been doing it since his creation!

And twice human speed is NOTHING to Slade.

Speed of thought:
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsphoefeat3lp.jpg
Instantaneous reflexes:
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstrokeannual03122pl.jpg
Rolls with Impulses' punch and kicks the shit out of him:
http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teentitans5pyratep02034iv.jpg
Ten times normal human reflexes (While depowered):
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladefast6dr.jpg
The PIS feat everyone talks about, that's actually more legitimate than most people want to admit:
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg026in5vv.jpg
Green Arrow, who is probably on Taskmaster's speed level might as well be standing still:
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg057th4it.jpg
She opens her mouth, breathes, and between then and when she can scream? Slade decks her:
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg067ib4sk.jpg
Nightwing gives him trouble? He TOYS with Nightwing:

http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight14tc.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight29wf.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight39np.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight53qy.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight67dy.jpg
His senses are magnified ten thousand times, and he's seen things on the MICROSCOPIC level before:
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitans01009hw7.jpg
He avoids starbolts like they were standing still - guess how fast starbolts are?
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitans01011xk0.jpg
Downs the Flash. For the seventieth time:
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ntt03419fy7.jpg
Slade can put changeling down before changeling can even lift a finger:
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newtitansv206220rougherun0.jpg
Stabs? Heal in seconds. A Gunshot? Fixed in a minute. His healing is underrated, and would mean that Taskmaster could do about as much lasting damage to Slade as he could to Wolverine:
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstroke5203ha0.jpg
Reflexes compared to the flashes....again:
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitansv10221pp5.jpg
He owns Wally West...again? Woah. Seventy one:
http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladekidflash7bi.jpg
Another speedster? Are you sure it's all PIS? He does it EVERY FRIGGIN COMIC:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5479938


....

Taskmaster is out of his league.

EDIT:

Oh, and Batgirl?

Slade's out of her league, too:
Too fast. This is from Batgirl, who has some great speed feats of her own.
http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bgds37va.jpg
She admits that he's toying with her. Twice:
http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bgds54jw.jpg
http://img449.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bgds99au.jpg

Originally posted by Soljer
Deathstrokes feats are PIS? What? He's been reacting to flashes for his ENTIRE RUN.

The argument you're making is the same one that people try to use against Wolverine; "He shouldn't be able to hang with the Hulk! It's PIS!" He's been doing it since his creation!

And twice human speed is NOTHING to Slade.

Speed of thought:
http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsphoefeat3lp.jpg
Instantaneous reflexes:
http://img220.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstrokeannual03122pl.jpg
Rolls with Impulses' punch and kicks the shit out of him:
http://img203.imageshack.us/my.php?image=teentitans5pyratep02034iv.jpg
Ten times normal human reflexes (While depowered):
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladefast6dr.jpg
The PIS feat everyone talks about, that's actually more legitimate than most people want to admit:
http://img409.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg026in5vv.jpg
Green Arrow, who is probably on Taskmaster's speed level might as well be standing still:
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg057th4it.jpg
She opens her mouth, breathes, and between then and when she can scream? Slade decks her:
http://img373.imageshack.us/my.php?image=identitycrisis3pg067ib4sk.jpg
Nightwing gives him trouble? He TOYS with Nightwing:

http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight14tc.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight29wf.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight39np.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight53qy.jpg
http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladenight67dy.jpg
His senses are magnified ten thousand times, and he's seen things on the MICROSCOPIC level before:
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitans01009hw7.jpg
He avoids starbolts like they were standing still - guess how fast starbolts are?
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitans01011xk0.jpg
Downs the Flash. For the seventieth time:
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ntt03419fy7.jpg
Slade can put changeling down before changeling can even lift a finger:
http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newtitansv206220rougherun0.jpg
Stabs? Heal in seconds. A Gunshot? Fixed in a minute. His healing is underrated, and would mean that Taskmaster could do about as much lasting damage to Slade as he could to Wolverine:
http://img207.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathstroke5203ha0.jpg
Reflexes compared to the flashes....again:
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newteentitansv10221pp5.jpg
He owns Wally West...again? Woah. Seventy one:
http://img483.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sladekidflash7bi.jpg
Another speedster? Are you sure it's all PIS? He does it EVERY FRIGGIN COMIC:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5479938


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Taskmaster is out of his league.

I can't really debate that since I do not read TM regularly nor is his respect theard any were enar as impressive.

One question you think slade can move as fast as Flash? Is that a serosu comment? Wolverine and spiderman hti speed stirrs all the time, but I would never say they could mvoe any were near as fast. Death stroke also constantly get hit by street levelers yet he can move as fast as flash? Does that make any sense? It a lot of hype. Fash can mvoe many times the speed of light and there is no way in hell death stroke can do that. So now deaths troke has superior reflexes to spiderman and wolverine even if you combind them?

also green arrow speed is no were near taskmaster. Taskmaster can mimic all of spidermans moves for the most part and his powers allow him to go into the super human ranges.


I wish i had the means to debate this better, but I just do not have the evidence I need.


also when death stroke had 10 times normal humans reflexs his was no depowered.

Taskmaster's powers do NOT allow him to go into superhuman speed or strength levels. No. They do not. It has been stated in at least two Taskmaster comics to my memory. He can replicate the act, but not the efficiency. He can move like spiderman, but not with Spiderman's speed.

As for your 'serious question,' No. Slade cannot move as fast as the Flash. However, he can, obviously, react as fast as the Flash. Especially considering that it was stated. In text. In about a dozen comics, and in several of the scans I posted just above. Slade cannot move anywhere near as fast as the Flash. But he can react as fast.

Anywho, if anything, a street leveller giving Slade trouble is PIS, not Slade giving the Flash trouble. Slade's been ****ing up speedster's days since his first appearance. Also, nearly every time Dick, Batman, or Cass have encountered Slade, he TOYS with them.

Also; I HAVE read some of Taskmaster's more impressive showings. His mini where he ditched the pirate garb? That was pretty impressive. It was where he displayed his double-speed ability.

This, however, only allows him to move TWICE as fast as a human. And he couldn't do so for very long, because the strain on his body was incredible. Deathstroke, on the other hand, out reacts Wally West, and numerous other Speedsters, treats the Green Arrow (who IS around Taskmaster's speed level, believe it or not), like he was standing still. Treats friggin STARBOLTS from starfire like THEY were standing still, has instantaneous reflexes, and has his senses magnified ten thousand times over.

Oh, and let us not forget that little thing that YOU love to bring up so often; a healing factor.

If a stab wound would heal in a second, how fast do you think the damage from Taskmaster's punches would heal? Quite honestly?

Hell, Wally has said that punching Deathstroke is like punching a brick wall, anyways.

So, let us recap;

Strength? Slade - by a mile. We're talking between athletic and peak human versus class ten.

Speed? Slade. By terrameters. We're talking about double human speed to outreacting speedsters in dozens of his appearances, and managing to toy with Batgirl. Who has speed feats that easily put her at Taskmaster's level - even when taskmaster is working at double speed.

Reflexes? Slade. By a mile. Instantaneous versus between Athletic and Peak Human.

Durability? Slade. By a mile. Brick wall versus downed by deadpool's punches.

Other abilities? You know, like that nifty little HEALING FACTOR that would mean Taskmaster would never do ANY lasting damage? Slade. Taskmaster's 'other ability' is his ability to read slade, which may or may not even work. It failed on Agent X, and Cass' failed on Slade.

Fighting Skills? Taskmaster. Not by a LONG shot - Captain America has put Taskmaster down. Deadpool's done it. But Taskmaster is certainly top tier in fighting skills, and Deathstroke, while good, is a B-lister.

So....

In conclusion, this thread is spite. Perhaps not in intention, but irrevocably, it's spite.

Slade wins. 10/10.

Slade hardly curbstomps Batman in a fight. The first time they fought, Slade won, but Batman had messed him up so badly that afterwards Slade was decisively beaten by a guy who literally had both hands tied.

I can't remember, was the Batgirl incident around the time when she had trouble body reading in general?

Originally posted by Accel
Slade hardly curbstomps Batman in a fight. The first time they fought, Slade won, but Batman had messed him up so badly that afterwards Slade was decisively beaten by a guy who literally had both hands tied.

I can't remember, was the Batgirl incident around the time when she had trouble body reading in general?

When Batman and Slade fought, it was when he WAS in fact depowered. It was mentioned in the Slade respect thread, and there were scans to prove it. Batman tested Slade's blood, and found that his powers were waning.

slade shouldnt even break a sweat against batman didnt all the bat people have to jump him in infinite crisis

Originally posted by Soljer
When Batman and Slade fought, it was when he WAS in fact depowered. It was mentioned in the Slade respect thread, and there were scans to prove it. Batman tested Slade's blood, and found that his powers were waning.
The guy mentions his own strength and how he was exponentially stronger due to the serum, as well as on his enhanced agility and healing factor. Just how depowered do you think he was?

Fact remains, Bruce always holds his own against Slade every time they go at it.

Originally posted by Accel
Fact remains, Bruce always holds his own against Slade every time they go at it.


Yeah, and your point would be???????

He's Batman and that's DC Universe.

If beating Batman barely is a low point then that's not really a low point, know what I mean?!?!

Never said it was a low point. Hell, beating Batman at all is actually pretty impressive in itself. Superman even needed to attack him from behind without warning to pull it off.

If Slade did indeed have flash level reflexes he would be>>>>spiderman in reflexes which is not true.

also slade beeing 10 tons? there no evidence of this besides a single feat which by the way would require far more then 10 tons of strength.

Also Slades said powers is 10 times normal humans in every stat. Logan pig lieks to say it is 10 tiems peakhuman which is false.

Originally posted by capt it up
If Slade did indeed have flash level reflexes he would be>>>>spiderman in reflexes which is not true.

also slade beeing 10 tons? there no evidence of this besides a single feat which by the way would require far more then 10 tons of strength.

Also Slades said powers is 10 times normal humans in every stat. Logan pig lieks to say it is 10 tiems peakhuman which is false.


You don't agree with the "stats" whatever the evidence has been shown and proven time and again.

All in all Taskmaster loses, badly.

Originally posted by Soleran
You don't agree with the "stats" whatever the evidence has been shown and proven time and again.

All in all Taskmaster loses, badly.
actaully it never been proven. It wa state in a comic that he has 10 times normal human stats there was never any evidence to suggest he has 10 times peakhuman stats that was so bull shit made up by deathstroke fan boys.


ya TM loses this. Thanks I was using this fight to gage TM abilites

Originally posted by capt it up
actaully it never been proven. It wa state in a comic that he has 10 times normal human stats there was never any evidence to suggest he has 10 times peakhuman stats that was so bull shit made up by deathstroke fan boys.


ya TM loses this. Thanks I was using this fight to gage TM abilites


Power-ups happen

Originally posted by Soleran
Power-ups happen


That true however he not a mutant or a person who powers just increase on there own he would need to have been up graded and it has never once been stated to my knowledge.

Originally posted by capt it up
That true however he not a mutant or a person who powers just increase on there own he would need to have been up graded and it has never once been stated to my knowledge.


Not really since it's all comic "magic" anyway.

Besides this was ALL explained to you in the Wolverine vs Slade match up ages ago.

Slade.

Deadpool beat Tasky pretty easy. Slade's a less fun Deadpool (we all know pool was a ripoff, but the point is made).

Originally posted by Soleran
Not really since it's all comic "magic" anyway.

Besides this was ALL explained to you in the Wolverine vs Slade match up ages ago.
so now he magically got up graded ya that makes sense .


No it was enevr explain actaully some one called long pig out on the fact slade never been stated with having 10 tiems peakhuman stats.

There has never once been indecated that slade was indeed up graded so there for he was not upgraded.

Originally posted by capt it up
That true however he not a mutant or a person who powers just increase on there own he would need to have been up graded and it has never once been stated to my knowledge. Each time he dies he comes back stronger faster and better in every way. Says it in Deathstroke's series.
Just because -you- haven't seen it doesn't mean he hasn't gotten upgrades.

Originally posted by Juntai
Each time he dies he comes back stronger faster and better in every way. Says it in Deathstroke's series.
Just because -you- haven't seen it doesn't mean he hasn't gotten upgrades.
which issue? that sounds extremely fishy. also does it simply increase his strength or all his stats?

Originally posted by capt it up
which issue? that sounds extremely fishy. also does it simply increase his strength or all his stats? in the issue when he dies and comes back for the very first time, he notes that he is stronger and faster than ever.
Which would be Deathstroke the Terminator issue 17 Dead Calm, and the subsquent issues after his revival, such as issue 18 Assassin Reborn. A few of these issues, he marvels at how he keeps getting even stronger.
But, Deathstroke notes that his powers increasing all the time through his series, but tends to leap when he regens from death.

Originally posted by Juntai
in the issue when he dies and comes back for the very first time, he notes that he is stronger and faster than ever.
Which would be Deathstroke the Terminator issue 17 Dead Calm, and the subsquent issues after his revival, such as issue 18 Assassin Reborn. A few of these issues, he marvels at how he keeps getting even stronger.
But, Deathstroke notes that his powers increasing all the time through his series, but tends to leap when he regens from death.
then I stand corrected.

Not Close.

Slade 10/10.

Slade has put down the titans and memebers of JLA.

Taskmaster has what? Loss to a Moonknight who could barely walk. and got stomped out by Deadpool.

Plus, a healing factor. If Deadpool can take if (not to demen his skill), but what makes anyone think that DS can't.

I can't believe this is even a debate.

Originally posted by db_renji
Not Close.

Slade 10/10.

Slade has put down the titans and memebers of JLA.

Taskmaster has what? Loss to a Moonknight who could barely walk. and got stomped out by Deadpool.

Plus, a healing factor. If Deadpool can take if (not to demen his skill), but what makes anyone think that DS can't.

I can't believe this is even a debate.

Deadpool's healing factor has been shown to be more impressive than Slade's.

Just saying.

slades healing factor is not very impressive it been shown impressive in one arch thats pritty much it every other time it rather slow and worthless in a fight

Where do people get the "Slade isn't a good martial artist" jib from?

When he was powerless, he had no trouble out-MA'ng hordes of ninjas and martial artist bounty hunters with weapons.

Better than batman? No. Worse than Nightwing? Hell no. Somewhere in the middle.

he should be better then batman, but of course like they said batman is like the captian america of the DC his jobber aura helps him in any and all situations at least for a time being is slade as fast as the flash umm i dont know ive read he chased down a speedster once, he also has been fast enough to take down other flashes, he has K.O'd superboy and supergirl has he not, didnt he also drop a building on aquaman, the identity crisis wasnt pure pis, if he's fast enough he could certainly put zatanna down with a punch to shut her up, same with the bird of pray chick, and if he has the proper weaponry he can cut hawkman or girls wings, defeating kyle rayner with his GL ring is pure bull but then again if you think about it its the will that controlls the GL ring if someone has a strong enough will they can overcome it im sure slade has a pretty strong will, also green arrow thought slade was enough of a threat that he took MONTHS of prep to take him down and even then slade tricked him, the guy is really smart.

why should DS be more skilled then batman? He a swash buckler who uses his superior speed and cunning to defeat more skilled oponets

The reason Slade went for the ring like he did was because he knew that he was once one of three earthlings who were considered to be chosen as a GL because of his/their insane amounts of willpower.

They didn't trust him, so he didn't get it.

Still doesn't make that part any less shitty seeing that Kyle has taken Slade down before with less than a gesture.

Originally posted by capt it up
why should DS be more skilled then batman? He a swash buckler who uses his superior speed and cunning to defeat more skilled oponets
He's not more skilled than Batman. Dude, no one is except Karate Kid.

Take Wolverine for example, the guy knows all Earth's martial arts. Ok, well Batman knows all Earth's MAs, tons of alien MAs and MAs that don't exist in other universes. Hell, the guy has made his own MA incorporating all of them and he's the only one who knows it. Bruce Lee style. It's ridiculous.
A 30 year old man shouldn't be able to learn all that bullshit.

Slade comes along with a really nice variety of MAs he's mastered and takes Batman out using his insane MA and his superior everything physical.

It's just Batman has too many fans and he does stupid crap all the time.

why dont nobody mention the fact that batman is full of PIS since he should lose to slade bad, i mean even green arrow was so afraid of slade or at least concerned with slade that he prepped for months, im guessing he wanted to avoid a hand to hand confrentation, and didnt the green arrow go all the way to this island just to get trained by the guy who trained slade, we know that batman and green arrow are pretty close to each other in hand to hand are they not, batmans not even in the top martial artists of the DCU is he.

Originally posted by long pig
He's not more skilled than Batman. Dude, no one is except Karate Kid.

Take Wolverine for example, the guy knows all Earth's martial arts. Ok, well Batman knows all Earth's MAs, tons of alien MAs and MAs that don't exist in other universes. Hell, the guy has made his own MA incorporating all of them and he's the only one who knows it. Bruce Lee style. It's ridiculous.
A 30 year old man shouldn't be able to learn all that bullshit.

Slade comes along with a really nice variety of MAs he's mastered and takes Batman out using his insane MA and his superior everything physical.

It's just Batman has too many fans and he does stupid crap all the time.

meh Batgirl= Batman (In pure MA skills)

anyways Slade wins
way to fast
way to strong
and he has the weapon advantege too imo

DS 10/10

Bump

Slade 100/100