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Wonder Woman vs Classic Apocalypse

since Thor may be able beat Apoc..

can WW do it?

NO rope of truth thingy...

Well, she's probably stronger than Apoc, but more versatile? I think Apoc can just mindrape for the win. And taking away the rope seriously hurts her chances.

Diana's immune to telepathy. So that won't work.

Also touching the lasso under any circumstances is a no-no. He'd better off trying to avoid it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Well, she's probably stronger than Apoc, but more versatile? I think Apoc can just mindrape for the win. And taking away the rope seriously hurts her chances.

Trickster, don't forget about the Godwave.

NO rope thingy....please. I think it's a plot device that she can always win with..

Originally posted by endrict
NO rope thingy....please. I think it's a plot device that she can always win with..

Diana's bracelets badass also. Apoc should win

Wonder Woman should pull out a victory.

I call bullshit on the TP immunity. She's been in telepathic contact with J'onn several times. Not to mention the white martians and Fernus.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I call bullshit on the TP immunity. She's been in telepathic contact with J'onn several times. Not to mention the white martians and Fernus.

Tp immunity means not vulnerable to psy attack. One can commune telepathically. Hell she even has an animal version of telepathy.

She's been recently upgraded by Athena possessing the eyes of Pallas. That's why a MM-level Doctor Psycho and Maxwell Lord had absolutely no effect on her.

She's always been resistant to telepathy....when writers remember it anyway. Especially when she channels the Spirit of Truth.

Oh, so this is a recent upgrade? Cause I read through JLA1-Post IC 7, and I never saw jackshit about a TP immunity.

You'd have to read the actual WW comics. In JLA, she's typical written as Xena with superstrength and flight. They constantly forget her other powers...

WW gets raped....

Originally posted by swerve1988
WW gets raped....

CelestialEnhanced d*ck FTW shifty

Originally posted by Draco69
Diana's immune to telepathy. So that won't work.

Also touching the lasso under any circumstances is a no-no. He'd better off trying to avoid it.

Uhhh, Trickster wasn't saying "Apoc would take away her lasso, and she'd be at a disadvantage."

He was saying, "She's at a disadvantage because the original poster took away her lasso."

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
CelestialEnhanced d*ck FTW shifty



Good point - we musn't forget! Apoc is represented as a masculine character, therefore he automatically gets at LEAST 5.1/10 against ANY female - just enough to secure the majority and put to bed the insecurities all the male comic readers have.

WW should be able to win him for the solid majority. He isn't faster than her. Atleast not that I can tell. She can block most if not all of his blows. He is no where near her in strength.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WW should be able to win him for the solid majority. He isn't faster than her. Atleast not that I can tell. She can block most if not all of his blows. He is no where near her in strength.

ww is beneath APOC IN ALL ASPECTS

APOC throws war hulk at her (ww ain't beating hulk)

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WW should be able to win him for the solid majority. He isn't faster than her. Atleast not that I can tell. She can block most if not all of his blows. He is no where near her in strength.

I wouldn't say nowhere near. He's matched the Hulk, and is supposed to be immeasurably strong.

Not that I'm giving Apocalypse the win, just pointing it out.

Also, with the lack of the lasso, how is Dianna gonna win? Isn't Apocalypse immune to physical damage?

I mean, she could slice and dice him with the Tiara all day long, but can't he just reform?

Originally posted by swerve1988
ww is beneath APOC IN ALL ASPECTS

APOC throws war hulk at her (ww ain't beating hulk)

Wonder Woman stomps any version of Hulk.

Including War Hulk and Maestro. Simultaneously.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wonder Woman stomps any version of Hulk.

Including War Hulk and Maestro. Simultaneously.

NOT WAR...never that

question: can ww beat supes?(actual question)

Originally posted by swerve1988

question: can ww beat supes?(actual question)

nope

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
nope

Yep.

I mean, it's within her powerset.

Could she beat him for a majority? Absolutely not. But he isn't curbstomping her, either.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
nope

ok then
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Originally posted by swerve1988
ok then
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You're retarded.

Originally posted by Soljer
I mean, she could slice and dice him with the Tiara all day long, but can't he just reform?

Apocalypse does have quite an impressive healing factor.

He has been able to heal from stab wounds instantly, and once blowed himself up, and just reformed his body after that. He was also severely weakened in that issue when doing so, almost falling apart.

1. You're retarded.

2. You stretched the page, retard.

3. You're entirely wrong, retard.

4. You're as bad for Apocalypse's reputation as xmeat is for the Hulks, and as Rutog is for Storm's. Quit life.

Originally posted by batdude123
You're retarded.


your an APOC hater

superman can't beat hulk( who APOC owned)

ww cant beat supes

so what can't you understand??

Originally posted by batdude123
You're retarded.

Its also possible he's just insane . . .

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Apocalypse does have quite an impressive healing factor.

He has been able to heal from stab wounds instantly, and once blowed himself up, and just reformed his body after that. He was also severely weakened in that issue when doing so, almost falling apart.

Exactly, and isn't he immune to bludgeoning damage as well?

I mean, Apocalypse would be hard pressed to beat Diana, but without her lasso, it seems that Diana would be hard pressed to beat Apocalypse.

Originally posted by swerve1988
your an APOC hater

superman can't beat hulk( who APOC owned)

ww cant beat supes

so what can't you understand??

Let me put this in terms you can understand....

Superman>Apocalypse>Hulk

I'm not an Apocalypse hater at all, I just understand the fact that Superman is above him.

Originally posted by swerve1988
your an APOC hater

superman can't beat hulk( who APOC owned)

ww cant beat supes

so what can't you understand??

Superman curbstomps the Hulk. Wonder Woman can beat Superman (especially if she is given some extra gear).

Originally posted by Soljer
Wonder Woman can beat Superman (especially if she is given some extra gear).

Key word in that sentence: can

Originally posted by batdude123
Let me put this in terms you can understand....

Superman>Apocalypse>Hulk

I'm not an Apocalypse hater at all, I just understand the fact that Superman is above him.

APOC>HULK>Batman>SUPES>WW

Originally posted by batdude123
Key word in that sentence: can

Don't get me wrong, I said just a few posts ago that she wouldn't take the majority. No need to correct or clarify to me, .

Originally posted by Soljer
Don't get me wrong, I said just a few posts ago that she wouldn't take the majority. No need to correct or clarify to me, .

It wasn't for you, it was for swerve.

Originally posted by swerve1988
APOC>HULK>Batman>SUPES>WW

Swerve, you are such a dick. YOU ****ED UP THE PAGE!

Apocalypse is capable of beating WW. Especially since there is no lasso. He's got the variety of power to do so.

Apocalypse beating Supes? Unless he can mindrape him, (and even I'm not sure he can do that to Supes......), at best all Apoc can do is stalemate. And that's doubtful as well. Supes>Apoc easily. Superman is just too powerful for Apoc to beat. I'm kinda doubtful reality warping or matter manipulation will work on Superman.


Wait, CURRENT APOC!? ARE YOU RETARDED?! CURRENT APOC JOBS TO THE LIKES OF NAMOR! Soljer's right, you are retarded.


For the record, I'll co-sign Wondy beating Supes. Not for a majority, but she can do it.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Swerve, you are such a dick. YOU ****ED UP THE PAGE!

Apocalypse is capable of beating WW. Especially since there is no lasso. He's got the variety of power to do so.

Apocalypse beating Supes? Unless he can mindrape him, (and even I'm not sure he can do that to Supes......), at best all Apoc can do is stalemate. And that's doubtful as well. Supes>Apoc easily. Superman is just too powerful for Apoc to beat. I'm kinda doubtful reality warping or matter manipulation will work on Superman.


Wait, CURRENT APOC!? ARE YOU RETARDED?! CURRENT APOC JOBS TO THE LIKES OF NAMOR! Soljer's right, you are retarded.


For the record, I'll co-sign Wondy beating Supes. Not for a majority, but she can do it.

Agreed with pretty much everything you said.

Originally posted by swerve1988
APOC>HULK>Batman>SUPES>WW


NO.


Can't you just go away?

Your not adding anything to this discussion (or any other discussion I've seen). And you've stretched out this page which is starting to get damn irritating.

blah.

Sorry, had to be done in order to get it to the third page.

I'll pm Digi or one of the other mods and ask them to fix the page.

It seems Soljer agrees with me that you're ruining Apoc's rep. AND HOW DARE YOU CALL "ME" A SUSPECT FAN!? I'M APOCALYPSE'S MAIN DEFENDER ON THIS FORUM, along with Evil_Ash and others. YOU ARE A COMPLETE IDIOT AND NOT HAVE YOU BADMOUTHED APOC, YOU'RE CLAIMING HULK>SUPERMAN!

Edit: Thanks batdude.

i can't believe you were all worried about the damn page and not this ripping good debate

HULK > SUPES (stalemate if a/s supes)

Looks like we got a new member of the retard club. HEY LOOK EVERYONE! IT'S XMEAT AND DEVILGOBLIN'S LONG LOST RETARDED BROTHER!

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Looks like we got a new member of the retard club. HEY LOOK EVERYONE! IT'S XMEAT AND DEVILGOBLIN'S LONG LOST RETARDED BROTHER!


thats just hurtful

those guys are fiend/ fanboys

i'm not even joiking

hulk would rape supes

Originally posted by swerve1988
hulk would rape supes


No. He. Would. Not.


But what does that have to do with this discussion anyway? Oh that's right, NOTHING.

Originally posted by swerve1988
thats just hurtful

those guys are fiend/ fanboys

i'm not even joiking

hulk would rape supes

Not nearly as hurtful as you are to Apoc's rep.

Wait, you're calling them fiends/fanboys? talk about the pot calling the kettle black...... hysterical

And hell no. I will destroy my limited edition Max Fleischer Superman cartoons Laserdisc the day ANY version of the Hulk can beat Superman.

Originally posted by swerve1988
hulk would rape supes

It would be consensual . . .

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Not nearly as hurtful as you are to Apoc's rep.

Wait, you're calling them fiends/fanboys? talk about the pot calling the kettle black...... hysterical

And hell no. I will destroy my limited edition Max Fleischer Superman cartoons Laserdisc the day ANY version of the Hulk can beat Superman.

WAR HULK owns supes

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It would be consensual . . .

hysterical Nah, Three way with Hulk, Lois and Supes is more likely.

Originally posted by swerve1988
WAR HULK owns supes

We are talking about Spectre lifting, Megeddon wheel moving, faster than light, bio aura, invulnerable, heat vision blasting, ice cold breathing, hurricane breath, superior senses and reaction times having, able to absorb sun dips like we breathe air superman? Let me get this str8. you think Hulk any version owns superman? Are you serious? Hell thor can only beat superman becuz of magic and you think a one trick pony like the hulk can own supers? LMAO

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We are talking about Spectre lifting, Megeddon wheel moving, faster than light, bio aura, invulnerable, heat vision blasting, ice cold breathing, hurricane breath, superior senses and reaction times having, able to absorb sun dips like we breathe air superman? Let me get this str8. you think Hulk any version owns superman? Are you serious? Hell thor can only beat superman becuz of magic and you think a one trick pony like the hulk can own supers? LMAO


supes <whip hulk


what is "Megeddon wheel"

It's spelled Mageddon, and the fact that you're even asking that question shows you know nothing of how powerful Superman is.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We are talking about Spectre lifting, Megeddon wheel moving, faster than light, bio aura, invulnerable, heat vision blasting, ice cold breathing, hurricane breath, superior senses and reaction times having, able to absorb sun dips like we breathe air superman? Let me get this str8. you think Hulk any version owns superman? Are you serious? Hell thor can only beat superman becuz of magic and you think a one trick pony like the hulk can own supers? LMAO

I know. It's sad.

Superman back when he was a punk that couldn't even fly would be a better match for the Hulk. I mean, they were both fairly fast, they both could jump like crazy, and both are crazy strong.

ANY other version of Superman? Curbstomp.

Meh, we're onto the 3rd page...the 2nd can stay like it is.

Swerve, just don't do that.

And guys, don't be jerks to people. Tell them to stop, and let it go.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Meh, we're onto the 3rd page...the 2nd can stay like it is.

Swerve, just don't do that.

And guys, don't be jerks to people. Tell them to stop, and let it go.

no prob

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
It's spelled Mageddon, and the fact that you're even asking that question shows you know nothing of how powerful Superman is.

educate me and answer my question.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageddon

Read, and then shut up about Hulk having any chance against Superman.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageddon

Read, and then shut up about Hulk having any chance against Superman. so what

Did you read the page?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Did you read the page?

Silly trickster, xmeat can't read.

Wait, Swerve is a sock of Xmeat? or he's as dumb as Xmeat?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Did you read the page?

yea but i ssaw no mention of a wheel

Ok, you read the page, and you still think Hulk can win? Then you're an idiot. And it was mentioned, but apparently you're illiterate as well as stupid.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok, you read the page, and you still think Hulk can win? Then you're an idiot. And it was mentioned, but apparently you're illiterate as well as stupid.

what paragraph??

hulk hater

Fool. "Ultimately, Superman - able to absorb anti-sunlight just as well as sunlight - was able to absorb all the anti-sun's energy and shut the warhead down permanently." Before that, he stopped a wheel that was moving with more force than an entire planet.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Fool. "Ultimately, Superman - able to absorb anti-sunlight just as well as sunlight - was able to absorb all the anti-sun's energy and shut the warhead down permanently." Before that, he stopped a wheel that was moving with more force than an entire planet.


WOW...thats a job joe fixit could do

face it..supes is lame

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Fool. "Ultimately, Superman - able to absorb anti-sunlight just as well as sunlight - was able to absorb all the anti-sun's energy and shut the warhead down permanently." Before that, he stopped a wheel that was moving with more force than an entire planet.

Errmmm, don't forget that he turned the wheels to MOVE mageddon.

You know.

The ship that's the size of a SOLAR SYSTEM.

Originally posted by swerve1988
WOW...thats a job joe fixit could do

face it..supes is lame

Sorry about understating the force behind the wheel. It's been awhile since I read the arc. Swerve, SHUT THE **** UP. HULK CANNOT DO THAT. WAR HULK CAN'T, ONSLAUGHT HULK CAN'T, SAVAGE HULK CAN'T, ALL THE HULKS COMBINED COULDN'T ACCCOMPLISH SUPERMAN DID TO STOP MAGEDDON. That may be a slight hyperbole, but at the very least, 10 Hulks could not accomplish what Superman did.

You were pwned. You are still being pwned. Give it up. Superman> (x20, I don't want to **** the page up like you did) Hulk.

THIS IS NOT A HULK VS SUPS THREAD, PLEASE DONT SPAM.

APOC beats WW

THATS IT!!!