Re: Jesus.. savior?
Originally posted by JaxN
yeah i hear alot "jesus is our savior"how did he do it? 馃槑
How did he do what? His hair? His tied dyed robes? His taxes? The actual salvation?
If it is the latter it depends who you ask. Me - well, I think if he existed at all he was likely just a man with an idea, nothing divine, and as such no spiritual salvation, just a way to make earth and people better (in his eyes at least.) But maybe he believed he was the son of God. Who knows - we only have his followers claims regarding that.
Re: Jesus.. savior?
Originally posted by JaxN
yeah i hear alot "jesus is our savior"how did he do it? 馃槑
I think this topic has been covered numerous times in here... but if you follow the Bible, then Jesus saved us by sacrificing his life for us AND if you accept Jesus has your sole saviour your sins will be washed and you'll enter heaven etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah
Re: Re: Jesus.. savior?
Originally posted by Tangible God
How did Jesus save us all?One night at a local Jerusalem tavern, Jesus declared, "Drinks all 'round!" And thus the party spirit in mankind was saved for another two thousand years.
Isn't that the time that Jesus picked up some bread and said "Eat Me"?
Re: Re: Jesus.. savior?
Originally posted by Tangible God
How did Jesus save us all?One night at a local Jerusalem tavern, Jesus declared, "Drinks all 'round!" And thus the party spirit in mankind was saved for another two thousand years.
Of course later that night the Barkeep crucified him when he learnt that Jesus didn't actually have any money with which to pay his massive tab.
Which just proves the cardinal rule - if you cry "Drinks are on me" either a. Have the money to pay for them or b. Be able to run really, really fast when the bill is revealed.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If Jesus truly frees you from your sins, then why are so many Christians sinful ? 馃槵
Well, we are sinful because of the world we live in. Sin is all around us. Temptations everywhere.
He frees us in the sense that we have acknowledged Him as the creator and that he died on the cross for our sins. It is then our responsiblity to better oursleves and pray for forgiveness when we do sin. Which is daily. At least for me it is. 馃槷
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If Jesus truly frees you from your sins, then why are so many Christians sinful ? 馃槵
Because God who can do no wrong created humans whose free will apparently makes our every inclination evil and weak and prone to fail.
But this has nothing to do with God. He is no way responsible. And so on and so on.
Just remember, since it is simple - "Good things - all God's doing, even good things done by atheists and other faiths. Bad thing's - all our and Satans doing. All of it. Even things done by Christians. God - no way responsible. At all. Ever. Even the killing he has done isn't bad, since God - only does good stuff. Stop looking at me like that."