Star Wars: Force Unleashed

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Tengu
I'm sure you guys have heard about it and seen the teaser. But, now their is actually more out about it, and thier nice concept art pics, and little tidbits of the story, on the official Lucarts website ( which has taken on a new sleek look i have noticed thumb up ). Bacisally you take the role of Vader's "Secret Apprentice" and you help him wipe out the remaining jedi....

Go to the lucacsarts website, for little pics and stuff

i'm wondering what you guys think of the game, I personally think it might be a little gay story-wise, but gameplay and new story will make for a fun game. The teaser obviously made them look overpowered and we prolly wont see too much a diffrence in the game, but what do you guys think? i say it'll be pretty cool

Alliance
Well, it seems like the technology in the game will be great. I guess my concerns are more concerning shallowness of gameplay and length.

Mygeeto, Felucia, Raxus Prime, nice to see them getting some attention.

My question is, if you are Vaders apprentice, why do you spend your time kicking the sh*t out of stormies.

Tengu
i don't know? i thought the teaser was pretty misleading for the revealed storyline. But thats probably the rebel jedi who're doing all that. Either way im intrested in seeing the planets and the environment. Thats one of my favorite aspects of a game, especially with today's technology. And some of it seems to cross with canon story bits. Like im not a 100% sure, but didn't Shaak Ti die in episode 3. Im sure its debateable how she died, but didnt she though. Their is a concept art pic of her on the website, which leads me to think she will be in the game.

Tech for this game will be amazing thumb up thumb up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWpmQzYWI44

Alliance
Tech is awesome, but it still doesn't make a game. I have yet to see lucas arts make a truely exciting lightsaber combat game.

xxXAcStylesXxx
Shaak Ti's death was taken out of ROTS, she will be alive and a boss character in this game.

Alliance
or maybe she will just be a side character.

xxXAcStylesXxx
In the new Game Informer, this game is the cover story and its confirmed inside she will be a boss and shows art work of her controlling mutated Rancors.

Blue_Hefner
Originally posted by Tengu
Like im not a 100% sure, but didn't Shaak Ti die in episode 3. Im sure its debateable how she died, but didnt she though. Their is a concept art pic of her on the website, which leads me to think she will be in the game.

Tech for this game will be amazing thumb up thumb up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWpmQzYWI44

Shaak Ti isn't the only Togruta is the universe

Ushgarak
As I talked about in the VG forum, this game is wayyy over the top with the powers and what-not, and I suspect this betrays an underlying issue to concentrate on such stuff at the expense of gameplay. Certainly the way they are advertising your magic powers worries me.

exanda kane
Originally posted by Ushgarak
As I talked about in the VG forum, this game is wayyy over the top with the powers and what-not, and I suspect this betrays an underlying issue to concentrate on such stuff at the expense of gameplay. Certainly the way they are advertising your magic powers worries me.

Took the words out of my mouth sad

Spidervlad
The video looks preety cool, but you have to agree with Ush here. This game will probably focus on the force powers, while lacking things such as story depth, and etc... Well, I gues we're going to have to see.

yettoh
i agree with ush and i think lucas arts just trying to show of impressive tech in my opinion

Marxman
Its on the 360, Ush. What do you expect. They're going to utilize the 360's power and make this game look as good as possible.
Originally posted by Alliance
My question is, if you are Vaders apprentice, why do you spend your time kicking the sh*t out of stormies. Maybe as Vader's secret apprentice you have problems. If its a secret than they don't know about you and thus see you as another Jedi. If they do kno about you, maybe Palp doesn't like it and orders that you be taken out, to make sure Vader doesn't get any funny ideas.

Tengu
i still think those are just the rogue jedi your going to deal with in the game, especially if according to AcStyles Shaak Ti is going be a boss in the game. But looking at today's market, alot of games are geared towards flashy ordinance and explosions, espiecially with the arrival of the PS3 and Xbox 360. So you gotta expect some sort of trend of games. While it may compromise the depth and concept of the game it's more or less something to be expected.

Ushgarak
Nah, the market's always been like that; people have been making similar commentary since Scooby Doo came out on the Spectrum.

Lucasarts used to create games based off their film franchises with true love and care. Now those days seem to be gone.

Spidervlad
Too bad it wouldn't be out for the PS3... Then they could make some REAL graphics and AI. PS3 Proccesor owns :P

There are still some games that I love, such as the Jedi Knight's trilogy. I absolutely loved the Dark Force trilogy and "Jedi Outcast."


Today's games seem to be all about the better the graphics or more powerful. But the storyline is what catches people attentions, thats why some games that are really old right now, are still played throughout the world...

Captain REX
I do indeed miss those days. Shadows of the Empire, anyone? Ridiculously fun game.

Spidervlad
Haha, yeah, I loved that game too. My favorite part was the battle at hoth, but the encounter with Fett was preety cool too :P

Alliance
Originally posted by Ushgarak
As I talked about in the VG forum, this game is wayyy over the top with the powers and what-not, and I suspect this betrays an underlying issue to concentrate on such stuff at the expense of gameplay. Certainly the way they are advertising your magic powers worries me.

Yes, I have that feeling too. Sure realistic materials and AI is great, but at the end of the day its no substitute for story.

I feel LucasArts needs to develop a good lighsaber combat game.

360pwns.

Count Makashi
Originally posted by Spidervlad
Too bad it wouldn't be out for the PS3... Then they could make some REAL graphics and AI. PS3 Proccesor owns :P

What do you mean it wont be out for PS3, because if you check on the official site it says next generation consoles, do you have some new information?

By the way PS3 pwns.

PiruBlood
ps3 sucks more 90 year old balls than anna nicole smith. and second this game looks insanley fun.

Spidervlad
PiruBlood, your a nub biscuit, and what you just said made you a fricking idiot.

I don't think it's possible NOT to put this game on the PS3. I mean, if it's AI are supposed to be so smart and stuff, won't it be best on PS3's Cell Processor, which really is a better Proccessor then the 360's?

xxXAcStylesXxx
There gonna be the exact same game, graphically, gameplay and AI wise on both Next Gen systems.

But yeah PS3 is trash, not only is it ridiculesly expensive it has hardly no exclusive games, the games out currently all suck save for Fall of Man.

Where as the 360 is cheaper, already has a small library of games, currently and for about 2 more years will have almost the exact same graphics as the PS3 and it has Live.

360 > PS3

Oh and BluRay is dead, the porn industry is backing HD, so that means BluRay will not sell in America.

Spidervlad
Roflmao, HD owning Bluray? I thought you guys on the computer video game forums are supposed to be smart?

PS3 is trash? Please, save it for someone else.

xxXAcStylesXxx
Its a common fact that the porn industry drives what formats will be successful in America, they did it for VHS and for DVD and now most major companies have officially announced their backing of HD.

I'm not doubting that BluRay is more powerful then HD, but currently there is no huge gap in the tech, as I said in about 2 years there probably will be, but thats assuming that the PS3 even lasts that long and that sony doesn't lose all their third party developers.

For you to say PS3 > 360 right now is pretty stupid. The PS3 has barley no exclusive titles to its name and its most notable franchise (Grand Theft Auto) will now be available at launch on the 360, and PS3 doesn't have the "one big game" that will save them, like Microsoft had Gears of War during the Wii and PS3 launch, and Microsoft has arguably one the most anticipated games ever (Halo 3) as a trump card still. What does PS3 have? Metal Gear Solid 4? Please.

Not to mention that Sony loses money on every PS3 produced, compunded by the fact that the PS3 doesn't sell for shit and sits on the shelf while the Wii and 360 dominate doesn't spell to well for Sony. But I know your only defending the PS3 because you fell stupid for paying 600 dollars for a video game system that has no games and probably crashed the first day you played it, I know I would.

Count Makashi
PS3 will get better games, remember that 360 is out longer.

exanda kane
I'd buy a PS3 over any Microsoft console anyday, hey, I spent my university years etching out some of the original playstation classics even with my gf glaring at me the whole time, Xbox means nothing to me smile

And neither does this Force Unleashed game.

xxXAcStylesXxx
Originally posted by Count Makashi
PS3 will get better games, remember that 360 is out longer.


Name one game coming out for the PS3 that is a "must have"

Thats is an exclusive title.

That will sell PS3 units.

There are none that I see, its best chance is MSG4 but that will not have anywhere near the impact of Halo 3.

Tengu
he's right..Halo 3 might as well be considered the second coming. Personally im an Xbox guy, and although i do play PS2 still (only because of controller problems with the xbox) if i had to choose betwen a 360 and a PS3 i would take the 360. PS3 is way too expensive for what it puts out, which really isnt alot. You would think they would have a whole lot of games to play, to compliment all the money spent on the thing. but obviously not....confused

Blaxican
Originally posted by Spidervlad
PiruBlood, your a nub biscuit, and what you just said made you a fricking idiot.



no expression

You.Are such. A Dumb****.

I can't believe your actually bashing someone because of their opinion on a video game console.

You're a troll and an obvious PS3 fanboy.

And 360 is t3h pwnge cool

Ushgarak
Ok, can we bring this nonsense back to the subject, please?

Kadesh
Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Name one game coming out for the PS3 that is a "must have"

Thats is an exclusive title.
Final fantasy XIII

FFVII, FFX and FFXII spawned alot of fans all over the world, and everybody is waiting to see the next FF on the next generation console

Ushgarak
Kadesh, what the hell did I just say? Geez. Defy a mod again and it's an official warning. A third time- a ban.

Blaxican
But ya know with FInal Fantasy.. - eek!


I don't see what everyones complaining about, personally...

I personally would find the game SOOO incredably boring if you just walked around with guns. I's much prefer to be a Jedi or Sith ANY DAY. And I think the setting is perfect. It's obvious that Jedi would still be alive affter the purge, theirs comics about it, books about it...

Just because GL maybe said five years ago that he "ignores" EU material, doesn't mean that he can't incorperate it into his games...

Ushgarak
It's not about there being Jedi. That's a total distraction. That's a complaint about Galaxies.

It's about ridiculous powers, and the dumb advertising about them that gives ittle hope to gameplay.

Lord Melkor
Though Ush, I have browsed some other forums, and most Star Wars fans seemed to actually be excited about this game.

Perhaps they just aim for diffrent audience than thoughtful Star Wars fans like you? Perhaps most people just want "kewl" powers nowadays?

Lana
Frankly, as I see more and more what's being done to SW in terms of EU, I have to question the intelligence of the fans that like that stuff.

I'll admit - it does look like it'd be fun to be able to be completely crazy-go-nuts with the Force. And I'd love to play as a Sith/Dark Jedi and it NOT be as petty as it was in KOTOR. But it's such short-lived fun as it requires no real thought or effort. It'll get boring very quickly. I'd rather have a game that's real to the movies in terms of the Force as that would require you to actually think, because in the long run, it'd be more interesting and last longer.

But then again it seems people just care more about it being pretty and fast fun then actually having an in-depth game.

I must admit though, I find it very amusing that while talking about this game at work, I discovered that several of the people I work with, who aren't even that into SW, think this game's going to be lame because it's just so off of what SW is.

And about people saying earlier in the thread about Shaak Ti - yes, she is in it, and she's a boss. Which I think is silly, personally.

Lord Melkor
Yes, it is interesting how for example EU makes some Force Users able to blow stars or suck life out from the planets( Naga Sadow and Nihilus). And people say that this is because Vader said that "ability to destroy the planet is insignificant next to the power of the force"- But considering that Force binds all life in the galaxy, Luke blew the Death Star thanks to using the Force, and Palpatine gained control over Galaxy thanks to his Mastery of Darkside- I don`t see how those over the top powers are necessary.

Spidervlad
Ever read the NJO novels? Lol, Luke there is like next to invincible. Umm, how the hell does a Jedi like him move 2 dark holes away from a system? And what about that Emerald Lightning force move which instnatly kills any enemy.

Weird -.- Thats why I like reading novels with clone troopers or bounty hunters in them, they don't overpower them that much.

Lana
I'll be straight to the point and say that NJO is complete crap and basically does everything to SW that simply should not be done.

And it looks very much like this game is going the NJO route. Sorry, but Jedi should not be reminiscint of the characters from Dragonball Z.

Ushgarak
Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Though Ush, I have browsed some other forums, and most Star Wars fans seemed to actually be excited about this game.

Perhaps they just aim for diffrent audience than thoughtful Star Wars fans like you? Perhaps most people just want "kewl" powers nowadays?

Forums and fan canvassing is a poor way to gauge such things. Regardless, nothing has ever stopped crappy games being popular because they pander to a low denominator. But critical ooinion of Lucasarts games has long been on the slie.

ESB -1138
I'm interested in seeing a screenshot for the DS. I want to know if LucasArts is just going to be cheap and make the DS version a crapped up piece of **** version of the 360 or actually try to make it good. Don't try to take a console game and put it on a handheld unless it's like from the N64 era.

kamikz
New video on this. This guy is seriously overpowered. Brings down a freakin star destroyer with the force...


http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/07/14/video-show-your-dark-side-in-force-unleashed/

And if he's Darth Vader's apprentice as the site says, then I wonder WTF they'll make Vader do...

Darth Hord
Originally posted by kamikz
New video on this. This guy is seriously overpowered. Brings down a freakin star destroyer with the force...


http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/07/14/video-show-your-dark-side-in-force-unleashed/

And if he's Darth Vader's apprentice as the site says, then I wonder WTF they'll make Vader do...


WTF the guy is way to overpowered. Based on the videos I have seen so far he should be ot vader. Especially in the force.

Morridini
Btw if you would like to get all the info as soon as possible you should rather visit the Star Wars Force Unleashed thread in the Computer % Video Games section: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/441637_1-star-wars-the-force-unleashed

As you see we posted the vid there a day or two ago.

jollyjim311
Originally posted by Lana
I'll be straight to the point and say that NJO is complete crap and basically does everything to SW that simply should not be done.

And it looks very much like this game is going the NJO route. Sorry, but Jedi should not be reminiscint of the characters from Dragonball Z.

Ever since EU started with Splinter of the Mind's Eye it's been that way.

Vader actually threw a ball of pure white force energy in that book.

At least the game is staying true to "Size matters not."

0°Mandalore°0
Originally posted by kamikz
New video on this. This guy is seriously overpowered. Brings down a freakin star destroyer with the force...


http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/07/14/video-show-your-dark-side-in-force-unleashed/

And if he's Darth Vader's apprentice as the site says, then I wonder WTF they'll make Vader do...

OMFG WTF so this is supposed to be VADER'S APPRENTICE? This game may be cool and everything, but the Force users there will be WAY WAY WAY WAY overpowered.

And it doesn't make sense to kill SO MANY stormies.

kamhal
Yeah, the guy is SO powerful, lol... I mean, if this was Lotf Luke i could understand, but if he is JUST vader's apprentice...

By the way, did you notice that in the begining the guys seems like... Darth Revan? Maybe that's why he was so powerful laughing

Just joking...

Darth Hord

Manslayer
Is vader going to be uber powerful? Because if they make his apprentice stronger than vader then he would be stronger than palpatine too thus fcuking up dan wallace statement.

Theres no way in hell his apprentice is stronger than him

Darth Hord
We would think they make him more powerful than the apprentice.

Manslayer
Originally posted by Darth Hord
We would think they make him more powerful than the apprentice. About the star destroyer part that was amazing. But idk if he actually pulled it down with the sheer force. He could have killed the pilots and screwed up the ships mechanisms causing it to crash.

W/e it is that is incredible. And if his apprentice is that powerful i believe that vader is even stronger than he is.

Now vader shouldnt be so underrated

Manslayer
Originally posted by Lana
I'll be straight to the point and say that NJO is complete crap and basically does everything to SW that simply should not be done. If you think NJO is bad LOTF is worse
Originally posted by Lana

And it looks very much like this game is going the NJO route. Sorry, but Jedi should not be reminiscint of the characters from Dragonball Z. I dont see why they shouldnt. If you think vaders apprentice is incredible wait till you hear about palpatine lifting a super star destroyer which is what? 19 000 metres? Thats 17-19 times larger and bigger than an imperator star destroyer notably the one vaders apprentice took down.

Boris
Can't wait for this.

E3 trailer was pretty cool.

Darth Sexy
Yea, that guy really does look like Revan, in the beginning. Maybe Revan was so powerful that he lived in the unknown regions for 4,000 years and came back as Vader's apprentice.. Sweet.

BlaxicanHydra
I know your joking... but that would still be incredibly stupid.

Darth Sexy
Die

DigiMark007
I guess maybe I'm biased toward believing SW games rock, mainly because my play experience includes the Dark Forces series (Jedi Knight was immaculate), the original TIE Fighter game, and X-Wing vs. TIE....and not much else. All good games.

Anyway, I'm tentatively excited.

Brit
Star Wars games have always been fun for me, but eh, they have slid a long way, methinks.

DARKLORDCAEDUS
Originally posted by Brit
Star Wars games have always been fun for me, but eh, they have slid a long way, methinks.


Hello. I look forward to play this. This should be a good game.

Manslayer
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Yea, that guy really does look like Revan, in the beginning. Maybe Revan was so powerful that he lived in the unknown regions for 4,000 years and came back as Vader's apprentice.. Sweet. So i thought too. He really looked like revan

BlaxicanHydra
http://starwarsblog.wordpress.com/2007/07/15/force-unleashed-story-characters-and-clues-revealed-at-ce/

Manslayer
If they make the apprentice more powerful than vader and sidious then this will be preposterous

kamikz
LOL! So he'll have power on par with Luke? Or just similair? Well, he hasn't showed it yet, even though he's damn overpowered....

BlaxicanHydra
Anyone else smell the end of the Vs. forums here? This guy is running around destroying Star Destroyers by himself... That feat alone puts him up there i nthe big leauges, and he's only a Padawan..

jollyjim311
Size matters not.


Brought to you by the suicide hotline.

Count Makashi
I think that scene where he brings down a Star Destroyer isn't real, for one it doesn't look like in game, it doesn't even look like a cut scene, i think they made just to show what you can expect. The scene in the trailer is weird, he brings down a Star Destroyer and then, for no reason he ignites a saber, why, he already brought down the ship, why the saber. I think they just made it, that it looked badass, not to mention that Vader hasn't shown anything on this level, not even in EU, for that matter not even Sidious hasn't shown anything like this.

Manslayer
Originally posted by Count Makashi
I think that scene where he brings down a Star Destroyer isn't real, for one it doesn't look like in game, it doesn't even look like a cut scene, i think they made just to show what you can expect. The scene in the trailer is weird, he brings down a Star Destroyer and then, for no reason he ignites a saber, why, he already brought down the ship, why the saber. I think they just made it, that it looked badass, not to mention that Vader hasn't shown anything on this level, not even in EU, for that matter not even Sidious hasn't shown anything like this. Its real apparantly since it is in he concept art. Sidious lifted a super star destroyer and vaders apprentice destroyed a normal star destroyer. Now i think vader is capable of doing that seeing that both his master and apprentice could do those things

Count Makashi
When did Sidious lifted a Super Star Destroyer up until his death in OT?

Morridini
Woot, great news today.

Here's a new webdoc with a lot of new info and clips: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29964.html

Elite Hunter
Good candidate for game of the year

Morridini
Even more interesting info from GameSpot

((The_Anomaly))
All I have to say is that so far, this game looks F*in badass. They need to show lightsaber gameplay though. I wanna see people being sliced up. Also I'm not fond of the way the main character holds his lightsaber, reverse grip style. It looks cool, but its pretty impractical and stupid when you think about it.

VPirate2099
I can't wait to play the Game.

Morridini
Three new video interviews up:
1 - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30124.html
2 - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30126.html
3 - http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30129.html

Didn't have time to check more then the first one, some new footage of lightsaber combat, and some info about a light RPG elemnt to the game.

The big EH
this will kickass, and lucasarts finally updated the site so i know for sure it'll be a Wii game also, i was so pissed when it didnt say it was going to be on the wii, i mean they literally told nintendo power they will be a 2008 star wars wii game that will fully utilize the wiimote. anyway i'm also glad they wont be any difference in graphics (to my knowledge) as the new tech they developed (DMM vand Euphoria) takes more processing power than anuimations and such, i am pumped!!!

LORD JLRTENJAC
The question with the Wii version is if Lucas Arts will actually get the control scheme right. I've seen too many 3rd party Wii games that just don't work... Personally, I'll be getting the 360 version (Beter graphics, and less of a gamble) and then depending on what people say about the Wii version, I may pick it up also later on, for more involved gameplay.

The big EH
actually there wont be any graphical difference as the new tech will take more proccesing power than regular animation gameplay, and the controls wont suck as it is a wii orientened game, there is even features exclusive wii. plus it's star wars, there isnt many ways they could screw it up

Blax_Hydralisk
You'd be surprised.

LORD JLRTENJAC
Originally posted by The big EH
actually there wont be any graphical difference as the new tech will take more proccesing power than regular animation gameplay, and the controls wont suck as it is a wii orientened game, there is even features exclusive wii. plus it's star wars, there isnt many ways they could screw it up

So their re-building it from the ground-up for the wii, and not simply porting it? Because that will work.

I just have never played a 3rd party game that the controls weren't either overly sensitive, or they thought I was moving my wiimote vertically instead of horozontally. And what is with always making it so that when you turn the nunchuck, or wiimote it moves the camera? Never had any of those problems with the official Nintendo games though...

Lord Knightfa11
I want the game because I would really like to see some of the things that are said can be done in the force, such as in this vaders apprentice causes and entire star destroyer to crash. It sounds cool just to be able to play a pretty much all powerful sith as opposed to a jedi who forgot he was a sith rising up from the bottom again, or a jedi exile trying to get re-in touch with the force, or whatever the basic storyline and premise for every jedi game I have played causes you to be weak in the force.

I would like to see what its like to be powerful in the force in a game instead of trying to get to be powerful in the force and then as soon as your their, a cutscene ensues and teh game is over.

Captain REX
Being overall powerful throughout the game could cause it to get repetetive and not-so-very difficult, and some of the things they've shown us already, while cool for a video game, pisses all over the perceptions of the Force that Lucas has handed us.

Lord Knightfa11
true but there would be things like boss mobs that wont be easy no matter how powerful you are... I hope.

and yes, it does kind of blow out of perspective all of the force things that we have seen in the movies.

I also see a bit of assasin's creed in it with the hood and the way he holds the shoto? it might be just me.

Elite Hunter
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11

I also see a bit of assasin's creed in it with the hood and the way he holds the shoto? it might be just me.

This doesn't look like a shoto to me
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:VadersApprentice_SWM.jpg

Lord Knightfa11
whatever. but it looks like assasin's creed to me.... and Revan. it would be cool if it was like the spirit of revan inside some clone or something.......

ok that was stupid....

hope its more swbf2 style controlls then rpg kotor controlls so there is alot more action... I want a fully destructable environment too. I wanna be able to smash a jedi through a wall.

Lord Knightfa11
i thought it looked like a shoto in the game preview.

Captain REX
I would explode if Revan's spirit did any such thing.

What is a shoto? I see a lightsaber...

Gideon
Originally posted by Captain REX
I would explode if Revan's spirit did any such thing.

What is a shoto? I see a lightsaber...

It's a short lightsaber, invented by Luke Skywalker to combat the lightwhip of Dark Jedi Lumiya.

Captain REX
I don't think that the SA is wielding a shoto, then, if Luke invented it. Not to mention that I think it's just meant to be a lightsaber.

The big EH
uke didnt invent it, he just learned how to make one from something, proof of this: yoda used a shota


i just found out that the story line is extremely importat to star wars, literally wont be abl to think star wars without tinking about FU (hehehe) and SA is suppose to be as important as luke himself. wat do yu think will happn

truejedi
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
I want the game because I would really like to see some of the things that are said can be done in the force, such as in this vaders apprentice causes and entire star destroyer to crash. It sounds cool just to be able to play a pretty much all powerful sith as opposed to a jedi who forgot he was a sith rising up from the bottom again, or a jedi exile trying to get re-in touch with the force, or whatever the basic storyline and premise for every jedi game I have played causes you to be weak in the force.

I would like to see what its like to be powerful in the force in a game instead of trying to get to be powerful in the force and then as soon as your their, a cutscene ensues and teh game is over.

just use a cheat code. lol, play the Jedi Knight Series with all nines. Knock yourself out.

Lord Knightfa11
lmao i have jedi academy wink how to you get all 9's?

truejedi
well, its been a couple years, but however you bring down the console. ( i think its CTRL, and the ~ key at the same time, or something close (someone on here will correct me if i'm wrong, i'm sure)
then type: "help us obi 1
then type: setforce all 99999999
and then you are good to go. don't forget to set your force levels back to 2 at the end of levels, or the game will freeze on the power selection mode, b/c you can't improve anything anymore. there is really a billion cheat codes, like spawn as many enemies as you want, be invisible, be able to fly through the level barriers, be any character you want. Just google cheat codes for Jedi Academy, and you should find all you need.

Lt. Valerian
Honestly, I can hardly wait for this game. Yes, it's plain stupid to have made such an incredibly powerful character, but I have the feeling I will still love it.

Lt. Valerian
Originally posted by truejedi
well, its been a couple years, but however you bring down the console. ( i think its CTRL, and the ~ key at the same time, or something close (someone on here will correct me if i'm wrong, i'm sure)
then type: "help us obi 1
then type: setforce all 99999999
and then you are good to go. don't forget to set your force levels back to 2 at the end of levels, or the game will freeze on the power selection mode, b/c you can't improve anything anymore. there is really a billion cheat codes, like spawn as many enemies as you want, be invisible, be able to fly through the level barriers, be any character you want. Just google cheat codes for Jedi Academy, and you should find all you need.

I know, I always use a thousand cheats when I play the game. big grin

I like to spawn like 20 Sith and 20 Jedi in a single leve.... try that, they start fighting and It's pretty fun to watch.

Lord Knightfa11
well i have been doing pretty well with a noobstick on multiplayer wink

0°Mandalore°0
I bet.


Why don't we keep this on-topic, now?

Lord Knightfa11
hmm. on topic. new concept.... but no. i havent tried the rib sandwich at mkdonalds yet. is it good?

Lt. Valerian
What?

Lord Knightfa11
who knows....

Captain REX
Keeping things on topic would be preferable, yeah.

Have we received a release date for Unleashed yet?

chik4lit
According to the Vanity Fair article about the game, there will be a twist comparable to the "I am you father" moment. It will have to do with the formation of the Rebel Alliance.

That's a pretty freaking big claim.

Lord Knightfa11
yea. well its been replicated before in what i think would have been a bigger twist if it had had another game leading up to it, i think we all know what im talking about

you are revan....

Blax_Hydralisk
lulz.

ghey.

Lord Knightfa11
like you pokey

Blax_Hydralisk
Reported.

Lord Knightfa11
why?

Blax_Hydralisk
Because your skin tone offends me.

Lord Knightfa11
please no, i will sit in the dark and turn pasty white!!!

Blax_Hydralisk
It's too late. You've triggered my trap card!

Lord Knightfa11
doh

dang. just for that im going to go sit in the sun and get MORE tan and hot just to make you jealous of the throngs of girls that attack me in the streets...

Kapton JAC
Originally posted by chik4lit
According to the Vanity Fair article about the game, there will be a twist comparable to the "I am you father" moment. It will have to do with the formation of the Rebel Alliance.

That's a pretty freaking big claim.

THere are many things that have claimed that... and only one that I can think of has delivered. Kotor 1. Kotor 2 tried, but failed so miserably that the characters weren't even suprised. no expression

Elite Hunter
I would love another one of those big twists. Like Kapton JAC said the only comparable twist in the video games like the "i am your father moment" is the Revan twist in kotor 1.

Lord Knightfa11
Originally posted by Kapton JAC
THere are many things that have claimed that... and only one that I can think of has delivered. Kotor 1. Kotor 2 tried, but failed so miserably that the characters weren't even suprised. no expression

i dont remember kotor 2 even trying... if it did, your right...

truejedi
the revan twist wasnt actually that good. from the second you start having the visions you know you are revan. plus when the thing on dantoine (the computer) pretty much recognizes you.

Lord Knightfa11
Originally posted by truejedi
the revan twist wasnt actually that good. from the second you start having the visions you know you are revan. plus when the thing on dantoine (the computer) pretty much recognizes you. dont reallly care. it surprised me because i just bought the game and played it hoping to find out why i woke up naked on a mining district in kotor 2. i expected it to be me being the exile and getting exiled so...

exanda kane
Originally posted by truejedi
the revan twist wasnt actually that good. from the second you start having the visions you know you are revan. plus when the thing on dantoine (the computer) pretty much recognizes you.

It was a good twist.

truejedi
Originally posted by exanda kane
It was a good twist.

yes, good story line twist, just not nearly as much of a surprise as Luke I am your father.

exanda kane
It's hard to compare then with respect. Especially considering they are different mediums.

Lord Knightfa11
and of course, star wars 5 was far higher budget and better acting. and you really never saw it coming because vader is like the epitomy of pure evil.

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whereas revan has a few cutscenes/visions and references throughout the game and vader appears throughout two movies as the singular and primary antagonist.

probably why they are compareable and not equal.

MadMel
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
It's too late. You've triggered my trap card!
screw the traps i have money shifty

on topic - the release date for this game is about august..

Captain REX
"I am your father!" very easily surpasses "Oh ****, I'm Revan?!" by far. We didn't see that coming in Empire, but it got hinted at in Knights.

What do we think the twist could be in Unleashed?

chik4lit
The only thing I can think of is that it would have something to do with Padme, but that would be WAY too obvious.

MadMel
well at some point in the game, the SA meets princess Leia, so that encounter could reveal some hidden spoiler erm

Lord Knightfa11
padme and anakin had another child before luke and leia, anakin didnt want to stop hiding their love so he threw it out of their coruscaunt apartment's window. the child landed on a passing speeder. after it was 10 years old it was encountered by vader and was made to be his apprentice. when vader had his dna tested, he found that he was in fact, his father. so...

"SECRET APRENTICE, *I* am your father"

Or vader cheated on padme with a hutt and then they had a child and vader, after giving it prosthetic limbs raised it to be his own secret apprentice. either one makes for a great twist...

MadMel
lulz!

truejedi
i was just checking out TFU on Lucas arts. in all the combat sequences, including light saber bettles, there are bright shiny neon lights everywhere. he uses force push, and purple neon lights surround the character he is attacking, hit someone with your saber and and the get red glowy lights around them, then fall down without a scratch on them. No cuts, no amputations. Anybody agree with me that it looks like a kiddie game? I don't want my bad guys exploding when i cut them with a light saber, and that is what they all appear to do. Right now, i'm profoundly disappointed with everything i've seen. i wanted a realistic saber game for the Wii, and now it looks like they aren't even giving you as a good a saber game as you got with JK2 or JA.

Elite Hunter
http://www.cubed3.com/news/9759
^New video and in it introduces at least two new sith (you fight some type of spirits at jedi temple) Darth Desolous and Darth Phobos
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Desolous
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Phobos

MadMel
i think thats only with one version (ps2 i think) erm
here some news
the first level is not you playing as the secret apprentice, but playing as darth vader!!
you go to kashyk and find the secret apprentice there..
heres the kmc/video games discussion thread
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f66/

Lt. Valerian
I found out something about the apprentice... He might not turn out to be as powerful as we thought:

Interviewer: "Are you the most powerful guy in the Star Wars Universe?"

Haden Blackman: "You're pretty powerful, but this is the way we're portraying the Force throughout the game, so, everybody you fight that has Force powers will be 'unleashed' as well."

Source - http://www.lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed/

This means the apprentice is probably less powerful than many would have thought.

Ivalice
And if everyone is being portrayed that way i guess that means vader will be badass.

Lt. Valerian
Yeah, he will. I guess that only leaves Sean Williams to decide how powerful the secret apprentice will really be.

Sesse
A good game it will make....

Yet the way Force will be presented is likely to suck Yodas doodle.
"Mystical energy field created by all living things". Not a fancy party thingy that is used to make latest pixel shaders overheat.

Ivalice
Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
Yeah, he will. I guess that only leaves Sean Williams to decide how powerful the secret apprentice will really be. Its about time they give vader some combat badassness. He is seriously ****ing underestimated and incredibly underrated despite him being nearly as powerful as the most powerful sith lord ever.

Blax_Hydralisk
Originally posted by Sesse
A good game it will make....

Yet the way Force will be presented is likely to suck Yodas doodle.
"Mystical energy field created by all living things". Not a fancy party thingy that is used to make latest pixel shaders overheat.

Your abilities with the force are only limited by your mind. So... really it is a fancy party thingy in your mind used to make latest pixel shaders overheat... if you will it to in your mind.

That's why I never got the whole "abusing the force" thing. Just because an undertrained snot nosed kid and three old guys way past their prime couldn't do anything impressive with it doesn't mean everyone else can't.

Lt. Valerian
Originally posted by Sesse
Yet the way Force will be presented is likely to suck Yodas doodle.


It's not as if it's relevant anyway. Why do you care if the character you use throughout the game is overpowered?

Sesse
Originally posted by Lt. Valerian
It's not as if it's relevant anyway. Why do you care if the character you use throughout the game is overpowered?

Like i said, it will be a good game.

The way Star Wars is developing on gaming platforms is what I am worried about.

Lt. Valerian
What is what worries you?

Sesse
Okay.

Lets have a Star Wars game A. Here you will play a character, who can do everything Obi1 could do in the prequel trilogy.

The game is good and sells well. Now we make a new game. B.
The main character is three times as powerful as kenobi ever was. He even puts Yoda to shame. Game sells well and all is good.

If they were to make a game C, would it sell well if the force powers were anything less than seen in a previous ones?

After being able to throw massive stuff around and fill entire rooms with Force lightning, many people might find anything less to be "boring".

Sooner or later people might start to rationalize that the characters seen in movies are horribly weak when compared to games.

Where is the cap? How powerful can a Jedi be? If these games give us ever more powerful characters to play with, is the force going to suffer inflation?

In the 80's Luke's saber-telekinesis and Vader's strangle were great.
These days the awe is around acrobatics.

I just feel like the Force was more valuable back then than it is now.

MadMel
the secret apprentice hasnt put yoda to shame yet
yoda could pick up mountains, and was throwing around CIS capitol ships like they were toys, remember?

tauros
Originally posted by Sesse
Okay.

Lets have a Star Wars game A. Here you will play a character, who can do everything Obi1 could do in the prequel trilogy.

The game is good and sells well. Now we make a new game. B.
The main character is three times as powerful as kenobi ever was. He even puts Yoda to shame. Game sells well and all is good.

If they were to make a game C, would it sell well if the force powers were anything less than seen in a previous ones?

After being able to throw massive stuff around and fill entire rooms with Force lightning, many people might find anything less to be "boring".

Sooner or later people might start to rationalize that the characters seen in movies are horribly weak when compared to games.

Where is the cap? How powerful can a Jedi be? If these games give us ever more powerful characters to play with, is the force going to suffer inflation?

In the 80's Luke's saber-telekinesis and Vader's strangle were great.
These days the awe is around acrobatics.

I just feel like the Force was more valuable back then than it is now.

There is no limit to a Jedi's or Siths power. As said before, the only limitation is your mind.

Ivalice
Originally posted by tauros
There is no limit to a Jedi's or Siths power. As said before, the only limitation is your mind. Then why didn't any of the powerhouses throw planets and stars at one another?

Your potential limits your power hence darth vader could never become more powerful than sidious.

tauros
Originally posted by Ivalice
Then why didn't any of the powerhouses throw planets and stars at one another?

Your potential limits your power hence darth vader could never become more powerful than sidious.

Umm.. because they couldn't? Just because there is no limit to your power doesn't mean everyones (or anyones) power has or will ever be limitless. So, the "Powerhouses" still were limited, that's why.

Your potential doesn't mean a thing. The force comes to you easier if you have much potential, true, which leads you to not appreciate the Force that much, and in turn the Force doesn't appreciate you much. If you learn it the hard way, you'll learn to appreciate the Force, and vice versa. Vader could have become more powerful than Sidious. Anyone could. But just because they COULD doesn't mean they WILL.

Lt. Valerian
Originally posted by tauros
Your potential doesn't mean a thing.

I expected better than this.



Read above. It's not even worth debating against this type of argument.



Just because you have a higher potential it doesn't mean you don't work as hard as the others...

True, Vader could have become more powerful than Sidious had he not been owned by lava.




I never thought anyone could fall so far.

tauros
Yep, when you lose an argument, resort to name calling and "omg thats not truu but i wil notz pruv it xD"

skywalker833
Cool sig Alliance!

Lt. Valerian
Originally posted by tauros
Yep, when you lose an argument, resort to name calling and "omg thats not truu but i wil notz pruv it xD"

LOL, so I'm the one who hasn't proven anything? And I mean what I say, think what you think, It's actually not worth it and that's why I won't bother. Come to me when you provide sufficient evidence to substantiate your claims, because you're the one who has not proved a thing.

tauros
Ummm.. proof to substantiate what claims? Tell me what you think the case is and I will provide proof

truejedi
Originally posted by tauros
Umm.. because they couldn't? Just because there is no limit to your power doesn't mean everyones (or anyones) power has or will ever be limitless. So, the "Powerhouses" still were limited, that's why.

Your potential doesn't mean a thing. The force comes to you easier if you have much potential, true, which leads you to not appreciate the Force that much, and in turn the Force doesn't appreciate you much. If you learn it the hard way, you'll learn to appreciate the Force, and vice versa. Vader could have become more powerful than Sidious. Anyone could. But just because they COULD doesn't mean they WILL.

i strongly disagree with this. Lucas made it clear what actually matters: the midiclorians. that, unfortunately, is canon. Jedi who studied the force all of their lives in the PT were not nearly as powerful as Anakin, who had 10 years of training. Anything actually could be moved with the force, this is true, but as it shows in Darksaber, Dorsk 81 died because he channeled too much of the force. The ability from the force is there, but the capacitance of humans, or other species just isn't great enough to move planets.

tauros
Where has Lucas stated that what actually matters are midichlorians?

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