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Who wins.

Centurious- http://marvunapp.com/Appendix3/centurious.htm

Brother Voodoo- http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/b/brothervoodoo.htm

Deathwatch- http://www.marveldatabase.com/Deathwatch

Gideon- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_%28comics%29

Lucifer- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/luciferarcane.htm

Lamprey- http://marvel.com/universe/Lamprey_(Earth-712)

Hammer & Animal- http://www.marveldatabase.com/Anvil

vs

Guardian
Vindicator
Talisman
Sasquatch
Box
Shaman
Puck

Oh lord you added Box IV, Guardian, Talisman and Shaman to the roster? Oh lordy curb stomp.

Gideon can control mechanical people aka Box.

Box has complete and utter control of the molecular makeup of glass, plastic and metal...so Gideon does not have that sort of control. His "mimic ability" doesn't mean much as he doesn't have the skill Jeffries has.

I believe he can mimcry could do so. Lamprey could to imo.

Originally posted by golem370
I believe he can mimcry could do so. Lamprey could to imo.

Taking Team

Wow, obviously you guys have no idea what Shaman let alone Talisman can do. Those two can solo the team themselves. I suggest you check out their respect thread.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Wow, obviously you guys have no idea what Shaman let alone Talisman can do. Those two can solo the team themselves. I suggest you check out their respect thread.

How do they fare against Lamprey?

Shaman alone made the universe itself pop like a soap bubble on a thorn.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Shaman alone made the universe itself pop like a soap bubble on a thorn.

Nice analogy.

Taking AF

That's word for word what was said in the comic actually, can't take credit for it

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Shaman alone made the universe itself pop like a soap bubble on a thorn.

Is Shaman more powerful than Talisman?

Originally posted by guy222
Is Shaman more powerful than Talisman?

No, Talisman is vastly more powerful. She literally could shut off his magic, as she has done in the past and even to Loki. She has even controlled Elder Gods because they were from the Spirit World as she is the Spirit Binder.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No, Talisman is vastly more powerful. She literally could shut off his magic, as she has done in the past and even to Loki. She has even controlled Elder Gods because they were from the Spirit World as she is the Spirit Binder.

Alright. I appreciate the help

I still believe they would win. These guys are versatile.

Originally posted by golem370
I still believe they would win. These guys are versatile.

Golem, how powerful is Lamprey. I am trying to locate my issue. Good link

He was able to use Hyperion's powers. I don't know really

Originally posted by golem370
I still believe they would win. These guys are versatile.

Ummm..what? Alpha Flight is vastly and I mean vastly more versatile. I don't think you grasp just how powerful they really are.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm..what? Alpha Flight is vastly and I mean vastly more versatile. I don't think you grasp just how powerful they really are.

you have to remember that the AF is Canadian












































































Sorry but they are Canadian

Bah! Shaman during Infinite Crusade saved all of reality himself. Without these Canadians all of reality would be destroyed.