Ghazal Omid and Islamic Treatment of Women

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Lord Urizen
Ghazal Omid is a former Muslim woman who was blamed for her own rape, and then disowned by her Muslim Family.


She wrote a book entitled "Living in Hell" where she reveals the atrocities that women endure in Islamic culture: thier lack of freedom, thier inequality, the injustice towards them.


http://www.livinginhell.com/synopsis.php


http://www.livinginhell.com/


http://www.ghazalomid.com/item.php?articleid=13


http://www.stopfundamentalism.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=344&Itemid=71






She reveals the truth about Islamic Culture and its treatment towards women. You guys read the news? How recently a muslim woman was raped, and while her victimizers recieved an average of 5 years in prison, this woman recieved 40 lashes on her back ?


Ghazal spoke up about this on Hannity and Colmes, and she wants America and the rest of the world to wake up to this reality.


She says that so many women in Arab countries are getting tired of this, but so few of them speak up due to fear of torture.


Fatima and Muslimscholar...you're arguments about equality of women in Islam is total bull.....read her testimonies, and then try denying Islams' treatment of women.

guy222
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Ghazal Omid is a former Muslim woman who was blamed for her own rape, and then disowned by her Muslim Family.


She wrote a book entitled "Living in Hell" where she reveals the atrocities that women endure in Islamic culture: thier lack of freedom, thier inequality, the injustice towards them.


http://www.livinginhell.com/synopsis.php


http://www.livinginhell.com/


http://www.ghazalomid.com/item.php?articleid=13


http://www.stopfundamentalism.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=344&Itemid=71






She reveals the truth about Islamic Culture and its treatment towards women. You guys read the news? How recently a muslim woman was raped, and while her victimizers recieved an average of 5 years in prison, this woman recieved 40 lashes on her back ?


Ghazal spoke up about this on Hannity and Colmes, and she wants America and the rest of the world to wake up to this reality.


She says that so many women in Arab countries are getting tired of this, but so few of them speak up due to fear of torture.


Fatima and Muslimscholar...you're arguments about equality of women in Islam is total bull.....read her testimonies, and then try denying Islams' treatment of women.

I will look at the links when I finish the comic site. Can u PM me, I can give u a definite answer

muslimscholar
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Ghazal Omid is a former Muslim woman who was blamed for her own rape, and then disowned by her Muslim Family.


She wrote a book entitled "Living in Hell" where she reveals the atrocities that women endure in Islamic culture: thier lack of freedom, thier inequality, the injustice towards them.


http://www.livinginhell.com/synopsis.php


http://www.livinginhell.com/


http://www.ghazalomid.com/item.php?articleid=13


http://www.stopfundamentalism.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=344&Itemid=71






She reveals the truth about Islamic Culture and its treatment towards women. You guys read the news? How recently a muslim woman was raped, and while her victimizers recieved an average of 5 years in prison, this woman recieved 40 lashes on her back ?


Ghazal spoke up about this on Hannity and Colmes, and she wants America and the rest of the world to wake up to this reality.


She says that so many women in Arab countries are getting tired of this, but so few of them speak up due to fear of torture.


Fatima and Muslimscholar...you're arguments about equality of women in Islam is total bull.....read her testimonies, and then try denying Islams' treatment of women.

she is from iran
shia law and hadith are compeletly diffrent from sunni
wjat rights has the west given to women apart from using their body to sell stuff the west traets women like slaves you talk about the west given women equality islam has bought the women equality

Gregory
You are completely out of your mind.

What rights has "the west" (which is apparently a cohesive body in your mind) given women? In general, all the rights that is has given men.

See, see, the sixteen women in the United States Senate probable think they're part of the most powerful legislative body of one of the most powerful nations on earth, but apparently they're actually "treated like slaves" and have no rights.

I note your sig. You've definitely got the deaf and blind part down pat. For the rest of our sakes, could you work on the "dumb" bit?

crazy
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Ghazal Omid is a former Muslim woman who was blamed for her own rape, and then disowned by her Muslim Family.


She wrote a book entitled "Living in Hell" where she reveals the atrocities that women endure in Islamic culture: thier lack of freedom, thier inequality, the injustice towards them.


http://www.livinginhell.com/synopsis.php


http://www.livinginhell.com/


http://www.ghazalomid.com/item.php?articleid=13


http://www.stopfundamentalism.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=344&Itemid=71






She reveals the truth about Islamic Culture and its treatment towards women. You guys read the news? How recently a muslim woman was raped, and while her victimizers recieved an average of 5 years in prison, this woman recieved 40 lashes on her back ?


Ghazal spoke up about this on Hannity and Colmes, and she wants America and the rest of the world to wake up to this reality.


She says that so many women in Arab countries are getting tired of this, but so few of them speak up due to fear of torture.


Fatima and Muslimscholar...you're arguments about equality of women in Islam is total bull.....read her testimonies, and then try denying Islams' treatment of women.

The fault lies in the culture of the people not necessarily the religion itself...

fini
muslimscholar, I have respect for muslim people, but dude, you are giving that good ones a bad name with your ignorance and ARROGANCE.

while the islamic world has made strides to empower its women, they are still largely treated less than men , from scripture to society, its easy to SEE.

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by fini
muslimscholar, I have respect for muslim people, but dude, you are giving that good ones a bad name with your ignorance and ARROGANCE.

while the islamic world has made strides to empower its women, they are still largely treated less than men , from scripture to society, its easy to SEE.



thumb up Thank you Fini

Fatima
Originally posted by fini
muslimscholar, I have respect for muslim people, but dude, you are giving that good ones a bad name with your ignorance and ARROGANCE.

while the islamic world has made strides to empower its women, they are still largely treated less than men , from scripture to society, its easy to SEE.

Nope ,women are equal to men in Islam but as crazy said its the culture fault not the religion ..India is a good example of the cultural oppression to women 10 millions girls were killed in last 20 years..and many other things like marriage and inherit issue



And Urizen STOP POSTING BULLCRAP

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Fatima
Nope ,women are equal to men in Islam but as crazy said its the culture fault not the religion ..India is a good example of the cultural oppression to women 10 millions girls were killed in last 20 years..and many other things like marriage and inherit issue



And Urizen STOP POSTING BULLCRAP


It's not bullshit you fkn idiot....read her testimony, this is coming from HER WORDS

Fatima
She's talking about her OWN society ..First time I heard of this crap ..Its not an Islamic law to punish raped women .Did u got it ??



laughing Thats bullshit ..She do not know nothing about Arab women ..dumb

Gregory
Originally posted by Fatima
Nope ,women are equal to men in Islam but as crazy said its the culture fault not the religion ..India is a good example of the cultural oppression to women 10 millions girls were killed in last 20 years..and many other things like marriage and inherit issue



And Urizen STOP POSTING BULLCRAP

"Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them."

Heh. "Equal."

Fatima
Which verse is it ?There is something in Quran called interpretation did u read it?

Quiero Mota
Originally posted by Fatima
Nope ,women are equal to men in Islam but as crazy said its the culture fault not the religion ..India is a good example of the cultural oppression to women 10 millions girls were killed in last 20 years..and many other things like marriage and inherit issue



And Urizen STOP POSTING BULLCRAP

How long have you been speaking English?

(serious question)

fini
umm, I never said anything bout MY society( I am NOT from India), I am talking about many if not all islamic societies.

Lets get some common ground here, IN THEORY men and women are supposed to be equal, BUT IN PRACTISE in many places it is far from it. That sound better?

Also , Notice, I dont say anything about hinduism nor india. Why? Cause I know that they are also full of faults. Unlike fatima and muslimscholar I will never make the claim that it is a perfect religion and all that nonesense. I will not come here and say that only to have all the imperfections , that I very well know of, thrown back at me. I only use the parts that are useful to others in here.

AND a lil thing

Man is Imperfect
Man made religion
NO religion is prefect
All religions to the core are the same
Geography and CULTURE make them different.

Fini out.
( going by a pundit to set a wedding date, woohooo)

lord xyz
Originally posted by Fatima
Nope ,women are equal to men in Islam but as crazy said its the culture fault not the religion ..India is a good example of the cultural oppression to women 10 millions girls were killed in last 20 years..and many other things like marriage and inherit issue



And Urizen STOP POSTING BULLCRAP Then explain the "No women outside the house unless accompanied by a man" rule.

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by muslimscholar
she is from iran
shia law and hadith are compeletly diffrent from sunni
wjat rights has the west given to women apart from using their body to sell stuff the west traets women like slaves you talk about the west given women equality islam has bought the women equality

Since when did the Hadiths and the Shairia change? Please don't try to misslead. Its not nice.


Sunni believe that the first four caliphs - Mohammed's successors, rightfully took his place as the leaders of Muslims and Shiites, believe that only the heirs of the fourth caliph, Ali, are the legitimate successors of Mohammed.

The other differance is Mahdi - Shiites he has already been here, and will return from hiding and for Sunnis he has yet to emerge into history.

So the differance between these two branches ends there. Qurand, Hadith and Sharia are still the same.

TRH
Originally posted by muslimscholar
she is from iran
shia law and hadith are compeletly diffrent from sunni
wjat rights has the west given to women apart from using their body to sell stuff the west traets women like slaves you talk about the west given women equality islam has bought the women equality ok somehow you claim the wests treats them like slaves is that why the 3rd and 5th most powerful people in the US are women and why the US will soon have a women President most likely

TRH
Originally posted by Fatima
Nope ,women are equal to men in Islam but as crazy said its the culture fault not the religion ..India is a good example of the cultural oppression to women 10 millions girls were killed in last 20 years..and many other things like marriage and inherit issue



And Urizen STOP POSTING BULLCRAP you blame this all on the culture but somehow this so called culture exists in all the Islamic countries and arrived with Islam? And so you think that this story is a lie

TRH
Originally posted by Fatima
She's talking about her OWN society ..First time I heard of this crap ..Its not an Islamic law to punish raped women .Did u got it ??



laughing Thats bullshit ..She do not know nothing about Arab women ..dumb a lot of preists claim it to be islamic law

I will ask you how long have you spoken english?

TRH
Originally posted by lord xyz
Then explain the "No women outside the house unless accompanied by a man" rule. seconded

lil bitchiness
Originally posted by TRH
you blame this all on the culture but somehow this so called culture exists in all the Islamic countries and arrived with Islam? And so you think that this story is a lie

Islam is the sole reason for the Iranian women's status. Arabian women before Muahmmad wwre strong and proud, but Muhammad took care of that.

Women in Persian empire had more rights than anywhere else in the world. If we remember history, Persian women were horrified at the male dominated Greek societies.
Women were soldiers, leaders, scholars...
Then Islam arrived.

Fatima DO NOTblame the culture of Persia and especially Iran!! Persians were proud and honourable people, and extreamly advanced. Their culture is NOT Islam. Don't forget, that there are Persians and Iranians out there who remember their TURE roots and do not consider Islam part of their cultural identity.

Gregory
Originally posted by Fatima
Which verse is it ?There is something in Quran called interpretation did u read it?

4:34. "Women." I haven't read the Koran in full, but I've read a fair number of the individual suras, if that's what you're asking.

lil bitchiness
Fatima mentiones interpretation. I thought that Qur'an was a literal, unchangable word of God. If its a literal, then there is no interpretation.

Gregory
I've heard it said that the Koran was supposed to be understood on multiple levels (seven?), and I think it's unfair to expect a holy book to not require any interpretation (the Koran would be the only one, if it was such a holy book), but the verse I quoted seems faily unambivilant.

Fatima
Originally posted by lil bitchiness


Women before Islam were like SLAVES ..They dont inherit anything , even her husband can divorce her 10 times without any officially relationship and many other sucks ..Be objective once lil



I dont know much about Persian culture nor about the Shi'i law ..But saying that Islam order to punish raped women is silly .

Alfheim
Originally posted by Fatima
Women before Islam were like SLAVES ..They dont inherit anything , even her husband can divorce her 10 times without any officially relationship and many other sucks ..Be objective once lil




I dunno about that, Khadija was a business woman before Islam. Hind slagged off her husband for giving up Mecca, Hind doesn't sound like a slave to me.

Fatima
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
How long have you been speaking English?

(serious question)


"ahem" First the education system in The UAE is bad ,I have been studying English since fourth grade till high school and they never taught us how to speak English .It was all depend on memorizing only vocabulary and reading some topics in the book confused At that time most subjects in the University was in arabic so they didnt prepare us well but later they make English the basic language .

Why don't you be my teacher? eek!

Fatima
Originally posted by Alfheim
I dunno about that, Khadija was a business woman before Islam. Hind slagged off her husband for giving up Mecca, Hind doesn't sound like a slave to me.

Maybe according to their tribe .

Alfheim
Originally posted by Fatima
Maybe according to their tribe .

Well they probably weren't from the same tribe. I dont even think they knew each other. Islam hasnt done anything for women that hasn't already been done. Besides it makes a womens life harder.

Fatima

Gregory
Yada yada yada. The Koran still tells men to beat their wives; you can talk about responsibilities until you're blue in the face, but you won't change that fact.

TRH
Originally posted by Fatima
Women before Islam were like SLAVES ..They don't inherit anything , even her husband can divorce her 10 times without any officially relationship and many other sucks ..Be objective once lil



I don't know much about Persian culture nor about the Shi'i law ..But saying that Islam order to punish raped women is silly . Turn around and face reality,in many Muslim countries women are treated like dogs and don't you dare try to deny it

Fatima
Originally posted by TRH
Turn around and face reality,in many Muslim countries women are treated like dogs and don't you dare try to deny it

TRH , I believe that you have no idea about women in Islam . These videos are comparison between women in Islam and Christianity ..I hope you see it ALL smile PLEASE pray


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN6VcS69dWw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O77iGzJJcqY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St9o3V_d_ds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45quXXZBYpQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWJok6hGF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCE9iBxL8E

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Fatima
TRH , I believe that you have no idea about women in Islam . These videos are comparison between women in Islam and Christianity ..I hope you see it ALL smile PLEASE pray


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN6VcS69dWw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O77iGzJJcqY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St9o3V_d_ds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45quXXZBYpQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWJok6hGF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCE9iBxL8E




I'm surprised your government didn't ban youtube from your access like it did all the other websites

TRH
Originally posted by Fatima
TRH , I believe that you have no idea about women in Islam . These videos are comparison between women in Islam and Christianity ..I hope you see it ALL smile PLEASE pray


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN6VcS69dWw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O77iGzJJcqY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St9o3V_d_ds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45quXXZBYpQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqWJok6hGF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyCE9iBxL8E i have a very good idea about the womens rights situation in ISLAM,and I cant understand what that guy is saying on the vid....can I date you??

Lord Urizen
Fatima is blind....her own women are being abused and she denies it....

Fatima
Originally posted by lord xyz
Then explain the "No women outside the house unless accompanied by a man" rule.


Only in long journeys ..

Fatima
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Fatima is blind....her own women are being abused and she denies it....


Women are being abused EVERYWHERE , don't blame the religion ..

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by Fatima
Women are being abused EVERYWHERE , don't blame the religion ..


Islamic abuse of women far surpasses every other cultural abuse of women. It is not legal to burn the faces of women here or to beat them for not covering up.


In United States and other regions there are severe consequences for burning women, beating them or raping them, while in Islamic run nations, men get away with doing a LOT of abuse to women.


Ghazal Omid is the perfect example....

muslimscholar
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Since when did the Hadiths and the Shairia change? Please don't try to misslead. Its not nice.


Sunni believe that the first four caliphs - Mohammed's successors, rightfully took his place as the leaders of Muslims and Shiites, believe that only the heirs of the fourth caliph, Ali, are the legitimate successors of Mohammed.

The other differance is Mahdi - Shiites he has already been here, and will return from hiding and for Sunnis he has yet to emerge into history.

So the differance between these two branches ends there. Qurand, Hadith and Sharia are still the same.

quran is the same hadith is completely diffrent

muslimscholar
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Islam is the sole reason for the Iranian women's status. Arabian women before Muahmmad wwre strong and proud, but Muhammad took care of that.

arabian women had no rights men used to bury there daughters alive what kind of right is that
you keep saying this when it is wrong

muslimscholar
Originally posted by Gregory
I've heard it said that the Koran was supposed to be understood on multiple levels (seven?), and I think it's unfair to expect a holy book to not require any interpretation (the Koran would be the only one, if it was such a holy book), but the verse I quoted seems faily unambivilant.

you cant inturpet the quran because you cant understand it the seven your talking about is the ways how you can read it its all grammer

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by muslimscholar
you cant inturpet the quran because you cant understand it the seven your talking about is the ways how you can read it its all grammer



That's the same bullshit excuse Christians use, "You can't understand the Bible because you are not Christian, you have not been born again in Christ, that is why you see contradictions"



roll eyes (sarcastic)

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That's the same bullshit excuse Christians use, "You can't understand the Bible because you are not Christian, you have not been born again in Christ, that is why you see contradictions"



roll eyes (sarcastic)

It's an easy out.

muslimscholar
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
That's the same bullshit excuse Christians use, "You can't understand the Bible because you are not Christian, you have not been born again in Christ, that is why you see contradictions"



roll eyes (sarcastic)

i said you cant intupet the quran to your understanding
you cant change the meaning because you dont understand it it is the word of god
and you dont have to be a muslim to understand the quran its clear anyway

Robtard
Originally posted by muslimscholar
i said you cant intupet the quran to your understanding
you cant change the meaning because you dont understand it it is the word of god
and you dont have to be a muslim to understand the quran its clear anyway

So how often can I beat my wife according to the word of God?

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by muslimscholar
i said you cant intupet the quran to your understanding
you cant change the meaning because you dont understand it it is the word of god
and you dont have to be a muslim to understand the quran its clear anyway
'



Like I said...it's the same bullshit excuse Christian Conservatives use here in USA

Lord Urizen
http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2007/03/saudi_woman_get.html




Fatima and Muslimscholar, read the above...a woman in Saudi Arabia was raped, and then punished by 90 lashes.....



Explain this bullshit to me...explain why any of us should respect your religion, when it encourages this kind of non sense on its people.

muslimscholar
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2007/03/saudi_woman_get.html




Fatima and Muslimscholar, read the above...a woman in Saudi Arabia was raped, and then punished by 90 lashes.....



Explain this bullshit to me...explain why any of us should respect your religion, when it encourages this kind of non sense on its people.
tell me where it asys in islam punsh a women because she is raped tell me that story is bullshit

muslimscholar
Originally posted by Robtard
So how often can I beat my wife according to the word of God?

you cant just hit your wife for no reason you have to have a very strong argument to hit her and evan if u hit her you cant hit her on the face or anyother weak place and you cant hit her hard to cause her damage

TRH
Originally posted by muslimscholar
you cant just hit your wife for no reason you have to have a very strong argument to hit her and evan if u hit her you cant hit her on the face or anyother weak place and you cant hit her hard to cause her damage laughing ha ha Islam is pathetic,a strong case,your sad I pity you,in non Islam countries you can not hit women

TRH
Originally posted by muslimscholar
tell me where it asys in islam punsh a women because she is raped tell me that story is bullshit what? speak english

Robtard
Originally posted by muslimscholar
you cant just hit your wife for no reason you have to have a very strong argument to hit her and evan if u hit her you cant hit her on the face or anyother weak place and you cant hit her hard to cause her damage

I see, it's okay if you have "just cause" and you only hit her in certain places, i.e. places that won't bruise... how benevolent of Islam.

Another question; are women allowed to hit men in Islam and does the Qur'an state rules like you mentioned above?

muslimscholar
Originally posted by TRH
laughing ha ha Islam is pathetic,a strong case,your sad I pity you,in non Islam countries you can not hit women

non islamic countries rape them thats why america has the highest rate of rape each day if you call that equality then hell to you if u call that freedom then hell to

TRH
Originally posted by muslimscholar
non islamic countries rape them thats why america has the highest rate of rape each day if you call that equality then hell to you if u call that freedom then hell to yes in america and UK and the west women can do what they want including pre marital sex laughing

Robtard
Originally posted by muslimscholar
non islamic countries rape them thats why america has the highest rate of rape each day if you call that equality then hell to you if u call that freedom then hell to


Your argument is that in non-Islamic countries rape is legal and that's worse than allowing women to be hit?

Hint #1: Rape is illegal as in 'not legal'.

Hint #2: Rape (female and male victims) happens in both non-Islamic and Islamic countries.

Hint #3: Think for a second before you post.

TRH
Originally posted by muslimscholar
non islamic countries rape them thats why america has the highest rate of rape each day if you call that equality then hell to you if u call that freedom then hell to tut

Lord Urizen
Originally posted by TRH
what? speak english




laughing

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