Cashless society by 2012, says Visa chief

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Deano
(The cashless society that David Icke has been predicting for nearly 15 years)
'Paying for goods with notes and coins could be consigned to history within five years, according to the chief executive of Visa Europe. Peter Ayliffe said that, by 2012, using credit and debit cards should be cheaper and more convenient than cash. Some retailers could soon start surcharging customers if they choose to buy products with cash, because of the greater cost of processing these payments, he warned.'

http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article2347411.ece

check out these videos also

the first video is excellent

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8879280584361243887&q=smartcard&hl=en

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcGgbowgdC0

lord xyz
Why is everyone talking about 2012? IS it the new 2006?

NuclearWinter
Where you been Lord? The significance of 2012 has been around for ages.

Black Dalek
I actually like this idea.

NuclearWinter
Mayan Calendar. Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, it's all there.

NuclearWinter
lol. We're not talkin Y2K here folks. Were not talkin bullshit. This is going to be the real deal. Not some made-up hyped up fear inducing agent.

Evil Dead
and again......what's the big deal? I already purchase everything with credit/debit card. I keep like $3 in my wallet incase I want something from a vending machine.

cash is useless if the retailer accepts debit cards. Why would anyone complain about this? What is the downside? The upside ofcourse is security.......you can't report cash stolen and thieves cannot be caught attempting to use cash. Why keep wasting money to print up tangible currency when it is an unnecissary cost which offers no benefit over digital transactions using the exact same monetary trade system we currently have in place.

KharmaDog
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Mayan Calendar. Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs, it's all there.

Alot of people use "their interpretation of" hieroglyphics, Mayan Calendars and other ancient cultures' various historical documentation to predsict future events. I find this interesting for the sole reason being, if these cultures could predict the future, then why could they not predict their future?

It's easy to use these cultures historical writings to serve your own purpose because none of them are around to tell you how bad you are f*cking up what they were trying to say.

Deano
Originally posted by Evil Dead
and again......what's the big deal? I already purchase everything with credit/debit card. I keep like $3 in my wallet incase I want something from a vending machine.

cash is useless if the retailer accepts debit cards. Why would anyone complain about this? What is the downside? The upside ofcourse is security.......you can't report cash stolen and thieves cannot be caught attempting to use cash. Why keep wasting money to print up tangible currency when it is an unnecissary cost which offers no benefit over digital transactions using the exact same monetary trade system we currently have in place.

it would be a good idea if good intentions were the goal. the ONLY intention is control.

cashless society would be a nightmare. and it will be with a microchip under the skin. it will be a slow process but people will be maniulated into accepting this. god help us.

did you watch the first video evil dead?

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by KharmaDog
Alot of people use "their interpretation of" hieroglyphics, Mayan Calendars and other ancient cultures' various historical documentation to predsict future events. I find this interesting for the sole reason being, if these cultures could predict the future, then why could they not predict their future?

It's easy to use these cultures historical writings to serve your own purpose because none of them are around to tell you how bad you are f*cking up what they were trying to say.

I can answer the question about why they didn't predict their future in one sentence - THEY DID.

In fact, they had very high knowledge about the Sun and it's cycles and knew that there was a correlation between the most major catastrophes of the Earth and the Sun.

They also knew that the Sun effected fertility levels, ect., and that their population numbers rested on how the Sun was going to react at certain times.

They also knew how the Sun affects personality, and much much more.

I can prove all of this. And I plan to. So don't worry about me not backing up my claims.

Evil Dead
then back them up chief........

as far as I know.......no ancient culture even came close to having the technology to have even the basic info we have today about the sun. Hell.......they didn't even know it was a big fusion reactor, they just thought it was some bright hot thing in the sky.

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by Deano
it would be a good idea if good intentions were the goal. the ONLY intention is control.

cashless society would be a nightmare. and it will be with a microchip under the skin. it will be a slow process but people will be maniulated into accepting this. god help us.

did you watch the first video evil dead?

Sigh.

Deano, you are one paranoid guy, you know that?

Deano
enjoy your microchip

lord xyz
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Where you been Lord? The significance of 2012 has been around for ages. The only thing I know about 2012 is the London Olympics.

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by Evil Dead
then back them up chief........

as far as I know.......no ancient culture even came close to having the technology to have even the basic info we have today about the sun. Hell.......they didn't even know it was a big fusion reactor, they just thought it was some bright hot thing in the sky.

Well I don't know what kind of sources you have been studying but obviously not the same ones I have.

Because all of the sources that I have been studying show that their knowledge was extremely advanced in many areas.

But if you want to go off of the theory that they were all "retards". Be my guest. I'm not buying it though.

Retards didn't construct those mathematical magnificent structures we call pyramids. Only intelligent Human Beings can deliver such wonders.

KharmaDog
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Well I don't know what kind of sources you have been studying but obviously not the same ones I have.

Are we going to have to "discuss" your sources again?



Originally posted by NuclearWinter
But if you want to go off of the theory that they were all "retards". Be my guest. I'm not buying it though.

Retards didn't construct those mathematical magnificent structures we call pyramids. Only intelligent Human Beings can deliver such wonders.

Please post exactly where Evil Dead claimed that he thought the egyptian culture was made up of "retards".

Nuclear, why don't you post your extensive knowledge of Egyptian history in the History section of this forum?

NuclearWinter
Well my thread used to be in the general discussion forum before they moved it here.

So if you want to play that game I suppose that we can play it.

KharmaDog
I said history forum, not gdf.



This makes no sense whatsoever. Also you never posted exactly where Evil Dead claimed that he thought the egyptian culture was made up of "retards".

Evil Dead
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Well I don't know what kind of sources you have been studying but obviously not the same ones I have.

Because all of the sources that I have been studying show that their knowledge was extremely advanced in many areas.

But if you want to go off of the theory that they were all "retards". Be my guest. I'm not buying it though.

Retards didn't construct those mathematical magnificent structures we call pyramids. Only intelligent Human Beings can deliver such wonders.

yet you have yet to post one "source"?

where are all these ancient devices used to collect solar data? They did not even have the tiniest transistor that could have been used in any machine to collect or measure solar radiation.......or any radiation for that matter......much less the entire machine.

you are seriously stating that ancient peoples had the technology to build computerized machines to collect, process and display solar information? solar winds.......fusion.....solar radiation....etc.? you are out of your f-cking mind. They didn't even know what radiation was......all the knew was the visible light spectrum. They had no clue mircrowaves, radiowaves, gamma rays or any other form of radiation existed.

post your sources now..........so we can all have a bigger laugh at you.

Deano
unless of course aliens provided the technology and gave them knowledge of the universe cool

Evil Dead
then the aliens must have left and taken every piece of this technology with them to leave no proof.......everything down to the nuts on the bolts holding consoles together.

NuclearWinter
Evil Dead I would not be so quick to judge. The truth will be revealed in time.

Check into the books written by Maurice Cotterell, Patrick Geryl, Albert Slosman, Immanuel Velikovsky, Charles Hapgood, David Hatcher, Bill Clendenon, Ivar Zapp, George Erikson, Mark Amaru Pinkham, just to name a few.

Thats a few sources for you to look into. Just a few. I have many more.

Mr Parker
People better wake up and stop living in denial about this.I met a friend at work the other day where he brought up how corrupted the government was not me and I was thinking that just a few of us Deano like me and you and Winter were aware of this but it made me smile when HE brought this up on how the government is planning on us being a cashless society by 2012,2014 at the latest.People need to stop living in fear and wake up and take some kind of action or its going to be too late for them.people should visit this website www.cnnnews.com instead of listening to the lies the mainstream media shoves down our throats.

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by Mr Parker
People better wake up and stop living in denial about this.I met a friend at work the other day where he brought up how corrupted the government was not me and I was thinking that just a few of us Deano like me and you and Winter were aware of this but it made me smile when HE brought this up on how the government is planning on us being a cashless society by 2012,2014 at the latest.People need to stop living in fear and wake up and take some kind of action or its going to be too late for them.people should visit this website www.cnnnews.com instead of listening to the lies the mainstream media shoves down our throats.

Ah, right, your imaginary friend.

And please explain to me how CNN is not mainstream?

Mr Parker
actually some of the mainstream news sources like CNN and CSPAN to their credit are now coming forward reporting real news because they have lost their credibility over the years with the lies they have shoved down our throats for so many years so some like them are now starting to come clean.

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by Mr Parker
actually some of the mainstream news sources like CNN and CSPAN to their credit are now coming forward reporting real news because they have lost their credibility over the years with the lies they have shoved down our throats for so many years so some like them are now starting to come clean.

So what is mainstream?

Oh, let me guess... Fox News? Of course, the only moderately conservative news station is accused of lying and deceit, of lying to everyone.

Deano
its not a liberal conservative run media ,its a cia run media, but the dominent nightly news is.

the average AP reporter or statesman writer are just picked because they fit into the mindset, its the editors that are controlled and alot of real news does leak out occasionly. but rarely to people know what it means.

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