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Thanks to the Plot Gods, Annihilus and his full list of forces were dumped into the DC-verse.

They've steadily caused a lot of destruction and are moving unopposed because the GL Corps are on break.

They arrive at Apokolips, homeworld of Darkseid.

Can he defeat them?

1. No prep for DS and the A-Wave does not include Tenebrous and Aegis.
2. 2 days of prep for DS and the Wave does include Tenebrous and Aegis.

In neither scenario do they have their Galactus weapon.

1. Totally unprepared I think that apokolips goes down, not even Darkseid can stand against the full onslaught of the Annihulation Wave seen who they basically walsed right past some of the greatest fleets.

2. Here he could take had it not been for Tenebrous and Aegis, had they not been with annihulus in this scenario then I would have had no doubt that that the Annihulation Wave would lose but seen how Tenebrous did go toe on toe with Galactus I find it hard to believe that Darkseid can bring them both to there knees.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Thanks to the Plot Gods, Annihilus and his full list of forces were dumped into the DC-verse.

They've steadily caused a lot of destruction and are moving unopposed because the GL Corps are on break.

They arrive at Apokolips, homeworld of Darkseid.

Can he defeat them?

1. No prep for DS and the A-Wave does not include Tenebrous and Aegis.
2. 2 days of prep for DS and the Wave does include Tenebrous and Aegis.

In neither scenario do they have their Galactus weapon.

1. DS, yes
2. DS, no

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Thanks to the Plot Gods, Annihilus and his full list of forces were dumped into the DC-verse.

They've steadily caused a lot of destruction and are moving unopposed because the GL Corps are on break.

They arrive at Apokolips, homeworld of Darkseid.

Can he defeat them?

1. No prep for DS and the A-Wave does not include Tenebrous and Aegis.
2. 2 days of prep for DS and the Wave does include Tenebrous and Aegis.

In neither scenario do they have their Galactus weapon.

Sidious says DS may win. He might lose. Meh

ds loses horribly

DS takes both scenarios

HURRA xmeat and me agreed on something must be the first time and Board Walker to what a day this is.

Can the Omega Effect work on multiple targets at once. IE : Is their a 'wide-beam' , If not then Ds MAY get taken down.

Originally posted by grey fox
Can the Omega Effect work on multiple targets at once. IE : Is their a 'wide-beam' , If not then Ds MAY get taken down.

DS has used it in a omni fashion before

with A&T darkseid has no chance

Originally posted by xmeat
with A&T darkseid has no chance

Yeah as if A&T actually compare to Ares with the Godwave, or to the Anti Monitor at the height of its power.

Originally posted by Board Walker
DS has used it in a omni fashion before

Hmmm...

I'd lean toward Apokalips in a 6/10 then. Oh and are the para-demons supes-busters or those STAS jokes ?

Originally posted by Board Walker
Yeah as if A&T actually compare to Ares with the Godwave, or to the Anti Monitor at the height of its power. galactus>>>>>>>darkseid
Galactus>>>>>>>ares
A&T>>>>>>>>>ares

Originally posted by grey fox
Hmmm...

I'd lean toward Apokalips in a 6/10 then. Oh and are the para-demons supes-busters or those STAS jokes ? Why would you use the animated series versions?

he has to split it up in quiet many beams to destroy the annihulation wave.

Originally posted by Juntai
Why would you use the animated series versions?

Some writers use the STAS series style Para-demons. Eg , useless and weak. Wheras they WERE Supes-busters.

he might take the wave but not the two cosmic powers

Originally posted by grey fox
Some writers use the STAS series style Para-demons. Eg , useless and weak. Wheras they WERE Supes-busters. Wouldn't their more current depiction be as the Parademon from Villains United/Secret Six?

I missed the issue where DS took on the A-M single-handedly and won.

Originally posted by xmeat
galactus>>>>>>>darkseid
Galactus>>>>>>>ares
A&T>>>>>>>>>ares


No, just no.

When A&T do universal+ feats, get back to me.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
I missed the issue where DS took on the A-M single-handedly and won.
yea i would like to read that issue also...aslo the issue where he beats spectre.

Originally posted by grey fox
Can the Omega Effect work on multiple targets at once. IE : Is their a 'wide-beam' , If not then Ds MAY get taken down.
3 billion Daxamites at once.

Originally posted by Priest
yea i would like to read that issue also...aslo the issue where he beats spectre. Darkseid never beat Spectre. Spectre made a flash of light and Darkseid died. lol. He reformed a few pages later though.

can darkseid take out galactus? if not, he isn't beating Aegis and Tenebrous

Originally posted by Juntai
Darkseid never beat Spectre. Spectre made a flash of light and Darkseid died. lol. He reformed a few pages later though.

Spectre pretty much melted him to slag

But DS immediately reformed seconds later, it was explained that DS has importance to the Source (just as supes does), so thus DS was protected by the source.

Originally posted by Juntai
Darkseid never beat Spectre. Spectre made a flash of light and Darkseid died. lol. He reformed a few pages later though.
oh i know Spectre dident loose to Darkseid.

But people like to make a point that Darkseid can hurt guys like a jobbing Spectre (which has been done by a bunch of beings) and be super-uber.

Originally posted by Priest
oh i know Spectre dident loose to Darkseid.

But people like to make a point that Darkseid can hurt guys like a jobbing Spectre (which has been done by a bunch of beings) and be super-uber.

DS nearly killed the Anti Monitor at the peak of its power, after it had absorbed nearly all of the DC omniverse.

DS has used the DC multiverse as a toy, he literally bent it to his will and used it as his hand.

This has been done a few times before.

I'd post links, but the advanced search seems to be out of commission.

If Darkseid doesn't job, he should win.

Try multiverse.

A pretty shitty one, too. Where there's little over a thousand universes.

While an omniverse, as Marvel has, contains infinite multiverses.

And again, I'm waiting on hearing how DS stopped the A-M single-handedly in a one-on-one fight.



Don't think so.

You are one of the biggest liars on this forum, dude.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Try multiverse.

A pretty shitty one, too. Where there's little over a thousand universes.

While an omniverse, as Marvel has, contains infinite multiverses.

And again, I'm waiting on hearing how DS stopped the A-M single-handedly in a one-on-one fight.



Don't think so.

You are one of the biggest liars on this forum, dude.

lol as much as you may hate it, it was the DC omniverse, everything was gone except 5 universes.

Secondly, DC doesn't work the same as Marvel, yes DS did bend a DC multiverse to his will to effortlessly grab God Wave wielding Ares.

So before you go accusing others of lying, do your research and actually read the comics, other wise you end up looking like an ignorant ass.

And well your at it, why don't you state these many lies I have said, I'll gladly post scans to dismiss your ignorant accusations.

Darkseid a Multiversal power?

More lies.

The point of 52
"the multiverse still exists."

And please show me one scan from COIE that states anything about an omniverse.



I know what I'm talking about.

DC NEVER had an omniverse.

What was destroyed in COIE was the MULTIVERSE.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
More lies.

The point of 52
"the multiverse still exists."

And please show me one scan from COIE that states anything about an omniverse.



I know what I'm talking about.

DC NEVER had an omniverse.

What was destroyed in COIE was the MULTIVERSE.

You don't believe DC has a omniverse?

Answer me this question, do you actually read DC comics?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666

Darkseid a Multiversal power?

Well for one when he bent the multiverse to his will and grabbed Ares.

also when he gained the ALE

And all of the newgods in true form are multiversal in level, remember when Supes when through a boom tube and saw them in their true forms, in their realm?

How realities were like marbles to them.

Originally posted by Board Walker
DS nearly killed the Anti Monitor at the peak of its power, after it had absorbed nearly all of the DC omniverse.
No, the anitimoniter was not at the peak of its power.
the AM was "already weakend"..

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.jpg

also it looks like the the sun that the AM was thrown nearlly killed him
"he screams screams as his body drives deeper ever deeper into the binary suns burning core."

Another thing to add, is there is no real proof that Darkseid was able to produce such a energy blast by himself, all i see him doing is push a button ...

So Darkseid need help from his tech and a sun to "nearlly kill" a weakend anitmonitor.
Also he just absorbed the energy of a universe not a feaking omniverse

Originally posted by Priest
No, the anitimoniter was not at the peak of its power.
the AM was "already weakend"..

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.jpg

also it looks like the the sun that the AM was thrown nearlly killed him
"he screams screams as his body drives deeper ever deeper into the binary suns burning core."

Another thing to add, is there is no real proof that Darkseid was able to produce such a energy blast by himself, all i see him doing is push a button ...

So Darkseid need help from his tech and a sun to "nearlly kill" a weakend anitmonitor.

oh I guess it happened after the Spectre fought him

Either way, its still an amazing feat, that DS was able to kill and omniversal power.

Originally posted by Board Walker
oh I guess it happened after the Spectre fought him

Either way, its still an amazing feat, that DS was able to kill and omniversal power.
he dident kill him, he mearlly hurled the AM into the sun, with help from his tech. the Sun did most of the damage...
Also the AM was not a omniversal threat, he was a universal at best because he was weakend.

Originally posted by Priest
he dident kill him, he mearlly hurled the AM into the sun, with help from his tech. the Sun did most of the damage...
Also the AM was not a omniversal threat, he was a universal at best because he was weakend.

He had absorbed all but 5 universes, though he used alot of power, he was still an omniversal power, you have no gauge to say he was universal.

Originally posted by Board Walker
He had absorbed all but 5 universes, though he used alot of power, he was still an omniversal power, you have no gauge to say he was universal.
he was weak, he was forced absorbed his universe in order to defeat Superman and SuperBoy.
this is before he absorbed his own universe:
he was so weak the AM couldent kill superboy with a blast of energy.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bd3jpgorig4wf.jpg
then this:
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.jpg

The Anit Moniter was NOT a omniversal power at the time imo.
he has the power of a single universe at best.

'cept DC never had an omniverse.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
'cept DC never had an omniverse.
dosent matter, the AM had the power of one universe.
Darkseid used his Tech to "throw" the AM into a sun. the Sun nearlly killed the AM.
http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.jpg

Sentry could beat the Anti-Monitor!

So, DS, with tech and a sun, beat a weakened Anti-Monitor.

More proof no one should believe anything Walker says.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Sentry could beat the Anti-Monitor!

So, DS, with tech and a sun, beat a weakened Anti-Monitor.

More proof no one should believe anything Walker says.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
Sentry could beat the Anti-Monitor!

So, DS, with tech and a sun, beat a weakened Anti-Monitor.

More proof no one should believe anything Walker says. Weakened compared to him prior to fighting Spectre, probably. However still drew in the power of a whole universe prior to the attack.

Originally posted by Juntai
Weakened compared to him prior to fighting Spectre, probably. However still drew in the power of a whole universe prior to the attack.
Major props to Spectre...
he was very weak before he absorbed the universe, he couldent dispatch of superboy.
Darkseid used tech to hurl the AM into the sun. The Sun did most of the damage.

Originally posted by Priest
he was very weak before he absorbed the universe, he couldent dispatch of superboy.
Darkseid used tech to hurl the AM into the sun. The Sun did most of the damage. But aborbing a universe's, is still . . absorbing a universe's power. Which is by no means weak.

The A wave goes down hard. IF they go to the planet APok with no boom tubes, they are going to be met by Giant New Gods at the hieght of thier power. They are also going to be met by superman lvl para demons and Stayne. Stayne can kick the Crap out of Tenebrious and Aegis. Unless someone thinks T and A are universal in power becuz ares sure was and Takion was able to halt ares for quite a bit. Or DS just freezes the entire a wave in hardened time and space like he did the gigantic universal ares. Then he OE's the A wave leaders to nothing ness.