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There was never a thread for this topic, so, I posted one. I will post news articles that cover the same topic I.E. people told not to fly.

Here's one more:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml

its not surprising since they new what was going to happen.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's not what I'm emphasiszing here though, Brown and several others were warned not to fly on September the 11th. It doesn't matter if he choose to ignore the warning and who specifically gave the warning. what counts the most is that he and several others were given specific warnings about the details pertaining to 911.


EXACTLY



That link doesn't work.

Yeah next time at least send us a link that works.

Easy on the insults parker, because I'm not intrested in a flame war.

Well Im not either.I would have said the same thing to you if you had sent a dud link.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's not what I'm emphasiszing here though, Brown and several others were warned not to fly on September the 11th. It doesn't matter if he choose to ignore the warning and who specifically gave the warning. what counts the most is that he and several others were given specific warnings about the details pertaining to 911.



That link doesn't work. People get warned not to fly all the time. How is this any different? And I thikn it does matter who warned him, if you are trying to uncover the "conspiracy" behind the attacks.

Probably typed it in wrong.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/12/MN229389.DTL

Originally posted by lord xyz
People get warned not to fly all the time. How is this any different? And I thikn it does matter who warned him, if you are trying to uncover the "conspiracy" behind the attacks.

Probably typed it in wrong.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/12/MN229389.DTL


He did not just get warned not to fly, he was told and I quote "Americans should be cautious about their air travel." 8 hours before 911 happened. maybe if he was told not to go to New York City, then it might be a coincedence. But, he wasn't warned that. Instead he was told that americans should cautious about air travel, implying that there was a problem


After 9/11 president George W. Bush and Secretary of State Condolezza Rice claimed according to the Washington Post that they had no idea somethng like this could happen. Yet, prior to 911 president bush was given several warnings by the FAA,CIA, and several foreign intelligent agencies.

Here are all the articles pertaining to Bush being warned:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Bush_knew.html

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/05/15/bush.sept.11/index.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,718312,00.html

Yet claimed this:


"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."
-- Condoleeza Rice May 16 2002 Press Conference

So, even if you think willie browns warning was a coincedental, it doesn't change the fact that bush had prior knowledge of 911 and claimed he had no idea that this would happen. Combined with the fact that several hours before 911 people were told not to fly (Coincedental or not) is very incriminating evidence.

So, based on the evidence we can come to conclusions.

Conclusion 1: Bush let 9/11, despite having prior knowledge
Conclusion 2: Bush and other government / Big business individuals planned 911.

You can argue the specifics, but it doesn't change the fact that 911 is no longer a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy fact, the only thing left to question is why it was done. Because the argument that 911 was a mistake is , and no one knew is bullshit.

EDIT: NORAD apparently had an idea, since they ran drillss simulating attacks on the pentagon and twin towers 2 years before 911. So, there difinetly was not a failure in intelligence.

"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."

that quote is hilarious as they was doing drills for that exact scenerio on the same day as the attacks.

total frikin lies once again. all of it is.

Originally posted by Deano
"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."

that quote is hilarious as they was doing drills for that exact scenerio on the same day as the attacks.

total frikin lies once again. all of it is.
Norad also ran drills that involved terrorist targeting the WTC & pentagon, Two years before 9/11.

Originally posted by Deano
"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."

that quote is hilarious as they was doing drills for that exact scenerio on the same day as the attacks.

total frikin lies once again. all of it is.

yep.and yeah that quote is hilarious.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
He did not just get warned not to fly, he was told and I quote "Americans should be cautious about their air travel." 8 hours before 911 happened. maybe if he was told not to go to New York City, then it might be a coincedence. But, he wasn't warned that. Instead he was told that americans should cautious about air travel, implying that there was a problem


After 9/11 president George W. Bush and Secretary of State Condolezza Rice claimed according to the Washington Post that they had no idea somethng like this could happen. Yet, prior to 911 president bush was given several warnings by the FAA,CIA, and several foreign intelligent agencies.

Here are all the articles pertaining to Bush being warned:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/02/05/Bush_knew.html

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/05/15/bush.sept.11/index.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,718312,00.html

Yet claimed this:


"I don't think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center, take another one and slam it into the Pentagon, that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."
-- Condoleeza Rice May 16 2002 Press Conference

So, even if you think willie browns warning was a coincedental, it doesn't change the fact that bush had prior knowledge of 911 and claimed he had no idea that this would happen. Combined with the fact that several hours before 911 people were told not to fly (Coincedental or not) is very incriminating evidence.

So, based on the evidence we can come to conclusions.

Conclusion 1: Bush let 9/11, despite having prior knowledge
Conclusion 2: Bush and other government / Big business individuals planned 911.

You can argue the specifics, but it doesn't change the fact that 911 is no longer a conspiracy theory. It's a conspiracy fact, the only thing left to question is why it was done. Because the argument that 911 was a mistake is , and no one knew is bullshit.

EDIT: NORAD apparently had an idea, since they ran drillss simulating attacks on the pentagon and twin towers 2 years before 911. So, there difinetly was not a failure in intelligence. From the link:

"It was not an abnormal call. I'm always concerned if my flight is going to be on time, and they always alert me when I ought to be careful."

Now I'm not denying the rest of your post, but as far as we know, it's a coincidence.

Originally posted by lord xyz
From the link:

"It was not an abnormal call. I'm always concerned if my flight is going to be on time, and they always alert me when I ought to be careful."

Now I'm not denying the rest of your post, but as far as we know, it's a coincidence.

But, the call didn't just warn him alone, it was a warning to the populouos. It said All Americans should be weary of their sir travel, not just the mayor. That is abnormal, regardless of what he said afterwards. Why would a personal warning mention the entire american public to be careful? I doubt mayor Willie Brown is told on a regular basis for americans to be weary of the air travel.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
But, the call didn't just warn him alone, it was a warning to the populouos. It said All Americans should be weary of their sir travel, not just the mayor. That is abnormal, regardless of what he said afterwards. Why would a personal warning mention the entire american public to be careful? I doubt mayor Willie Brown is told on a regular basis for americans to be weary of the air travel. So your evidence of an inside job is that the people behind the attacks warned Americans not to fly so they don't get killed? You're "evidence" is confusing. They wanted to save the Americans they were trying to kill?

What does Willie Brown have to do with the Bush Administration anyway?

Originally posted by lord xyz
So your evidence of an inside job is that the people behind the attacks warned Americans not to fly so they don't get killed?

Where did I say anywhere in this thread that 9/11 was an inside job?
I said many memebers of the government had prior knowledge, and let 9/11 happen.

Originally posted by lord xyz


What does Willie Brown have to do with the Bush Administration anyway?
who cares, the point is he was told not to fly 8 hours before 9/11. Him and several other people were giving warnings about 9/11, and that's what counts. And, he's part of the topic of this thread not the Bush Administration.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Where did I say anywhere in this thread that 9/11 was an inside job?
I said many memebers of the government had prior knowledge, and let 9/11 happen.


who cares, the point is he was told not to fly 8 hours before 9/11. Him and several other people were giving warnings about 9/11, and that's what counts. And, he's part of the topic of this thread not the Bush Administration. Okay, so him being warned not to fly is weird nontheless. But until we can prove it to be anything more than a coincidence, it's a coincidence. Yeah, some research must be needed like the link I posted.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Okay, so him being warned not to fly is weird nontheless. But until we can prove it to be anything more than a coincidence, it's a coincidence. Yeah, some research must be needed like the link I posted.
Again, he was not told not to fly, he was told that americans should be wary of there air travel.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Again, he was not told not to fly, he was told that americans should be wary of there air travel. So? How does this link with 9/11?

Emperor Palpatine/Sidious made one of his stormtroopers to tell Mayor Willie Brown not to fly because the Death Star would destroy it. Why? A Jedi refugee was in there.

Originally posted by lord xyz
So? How does this link with 9/11?
Because he was told 8 hours prior to 911, him and several other people were given fore warnings about planes hours before 911.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Because he was told 8 hours prior to 911, him and several other people were given fore warnings about planes hours before 911. This really doesn't make sense.

They're going to kill Americans, yet they're telling them to be cautious? Why would they do that? Unless someone who isn't involved in the conspiracy, but knew it was going to happen, made the call. But the identity of the caller is for some reason lost.

Originally posted by lord xyz
This really doesn't make sense.

They're going to kill Americans, yet they're telling them to be cautious? Why would they do that? Unless someone who isn't involved in the conspiracy, but knew it was going to happen, made the call. But the identity of the caller is for some reason lost.

How the hell I'm I supposed to know, why don't you call and ask them to explain their motives not me.

The bottomline is he was given a warning pertaining to september 11th, him and many other people. Why the warnings were given is unknown to me and I really could careless why also. The point is there were many warnings issued, so, there was prior knowledge.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
How the hell I'm I supposed to know, why don't you call and ask them to explain their motives not me.

The bottomline is he was given a warning pertaining to september 11th, him and many other people. Why the warnings were given is unknown to me and I really could careless why also. The point is there were many warnings issued, so, there was prior knowledge. OR it's a coincidence.

Originally posted by lord xyz
OR it's a coincidence.
How is getting a warning pertaining to air travel 8 hours before 911 a coincidence?

If I were going to kill you and you received a warning 8 hours in advanced. Wouldn't that count as incriminating evidence, and how do you explain the cell phone warnings detailing exactly what was going to happen 2 hours before 911, are those coincidence's as well?

Your calling incriminating eveidence a coincidence, despite the fact that:

1-It happned 8 hours before 911
2-It was an abnormal message
3-Multiple people were getting warnings in the hours leading to 911

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
How is getting a warning pertaining to air travel 8 hours before 911 a coincidence?

If I were going to kill you and you received a warning 8 hours in advanced. Wouldn't that count as incriminating evidence, and how do you explain the cell phone warnings detailing exactly what was going to happen 2 hours before 911, are those coincidence's as well?

Your calling incriminating eveidence a coincidence, despite the fact that:

1-It happned 8 hours before 911
2-It was an abnormal message
3-Multiple people were getting warnings in the hours leading to 911 IT wasn't abnormal though. You say other people were warned, care to elaborate?

Originally posted by lord xyz
IT wasn't abnormal though. You say other people were warned, care to elaborate?

So, the warning "All americans should be weary of air travel" is normal?
And, why should I have to elaborate something I linked articles to and quoted the important parts??

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
So, the warning "All americans should be weary of air travel" is normal?
And, why should I have to elaborate something I linked articles to and quoted the important parts?? He said so himself, he's always warned when he should be cautious.

There is no connection that the 9/11 terrorist attacks had anything to do with him.

Originally posted by lord xyz
He said so himself, he's always warned when he should be cautious.

There is no connection that the 9/11 terrorist attacks had anything to do with him.

So, he's always wanred that all americans should be weary of air travel. Unless, by all americans the personm mean't Mayor Willie Brown. Then I would see your point. And, who is the person that warned him, I'm pretty sure it was not anyone from his staff since he/she has not been named yet.