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the age old question

In the past i have baggered this topic into the ground and a few of you know this. I probably even hurt many of yours fellings.

I have been away for a while evaluating my life
and turning back to God

i want to sugest to you all that its not rules rules and its not if you love christ you cant do this or you cant do that.

God doesn't want the rules he wants a relationship

He doesn't care what you do

He doesn't care where you've been

He cares about you, He loves you

Try being his friend first

thats it

Just Friendship

Friendship

A friend who is there after you do all the crap

A friend who no matter how hard you punch him he will keep on hugging you

a father that you can say i hate you i hate you i hate you

Al he says in return is you know what my child i love you

A first step tords be able to know where you will go when you die

Friendship

Just try it

If you have questions just post them

He loves you be his Friend

Nah.

please dont just commenr nah or yah yes or no

Jacope Jesfen was born in Anaheim, California on July 7, 1991. His father Jacope Jesfen is a former professional soccer player for Sporting Cristal(Peru) and a driver. His mother Gladys Jesfen works with Multi service. Jacope had two older sisters Sheel Jesfen and Yvette Jesfen who he lived with in Anaheim and with there parents. When they flew to New Jersey, Jacope had another sister named Gladys Jesfen. They lived in New Jersey for a couple of week and then moved to Stamford, Connecticut. He lived there for years, even today. He started school in Julia Stark school for Kindergarten and first grade. During those times, his father took him and his little sister to Peru during the end of first grade and stays there with his family there for eight months. His parents had troubles with there relationship. They both had a divorce in 1997. Jacope and Gladys came back to the Stamford On January 1998. He continued to second grade in Rogers Magnet school. He luckily made it to third grade since most of his first grade finished in Peru. He goes to Newfield Elementary school. He started to play in a soccer team in California every time he had the chance in the summer and moved on to Travel. He got training from his dad and it helped him get better. He then went on to K.T. Murphy in fourth and fifth grade. During a game one day, he broke his leg and was unable to play for awhile. He finishes elementary school in the year 2002 to go on to middle school. He decided to go to T.O.R. He starts to play soccer again when he was in seventh grade and he lost alot of his great skills. He finishes Middle school well and goes on to high school in Westhill. He played for the freshmen team but Jacope Jesfen was very mad at the coach's way of training, he quits that team and kept on playing for Stamford. Jacope is struggling in high school but is getting better since he is only a freshmen. This summer, he is going to play in Peru for the first time and will keep on going to try out for Junior Varsity and Varsity. Jacope today is living in a town house, still living in Stamford Connecticut.

I am God.

dying freaks me out hella!

Originally posted by Marko
dying freaks me out hella!

I will start to pray to baby jesus today that you stop using the expression "hella."

Originally posted by Soleran
I will start to pray to baby jesus today that you stop using the expression "hella."



lol

Originally posted by gpchristloves
the age old question

In the past i have baggered this topic into the ground and a few of you know this. I probably even hurt many of yours fellings.

I have been away for a while evaluating my life
and turning back to God

i want to sugest to you all that its not rules rules and its not if you love christ you cant do this or you cant do that.

God doesn't want the rules he wants a relationship

He doesn't care what you do

He doesn't care where you've been

He cares about you, He loves you

Try being his friend first

thats it

Just Friendship

Friendship

A friend who is there after you do all the crap

A friend who no matter how hard you punch him he will keep on hugging you

a father that you can say i hate you i hate you i hate you

Al he says in return is you know what my child i love you

A first step tords be able to know where you will go when you die

Friendship

Just try it

If you have questions just post them

He loves you be his Friend But God is fallacy.

Pray to JEsus the Risen Savior he is no longer a baby in a manjor

IT freaks many of us out but Because I have god I know that I have nothing to Be afraid of

the real answer: Nobody knows for sure. Everyone has ideas.

What makes you belive taht god is Fallacy

Originally posted by Marko
lol

Good sense of humorOriginally posted by gpchristloves
Pray to JEsus the Risen Savior he is no longer a baby in a manjor

IT freaks many of us out but Because I have god I know that I have nothing to Be afraid of You certainly have nothing to fear, you're a special person apparently.

Originally posted by gpchristloves
Pray to JEsus the Risen Savior he is no longer a baby in a manjor

IT freaks many of us out but Because I have god I know that I have nothing to Be afraid of I have a GOD yet I'm Still afraid.

I must say
I belive we can know for sure

Originally posted by gpchristloves
What makes you belive taht god is Fallacy The fact that most of his believers can't spell the word "that."

now that is not fair typeing fast can make us all mess up some times

Originally posted by gpchristloves
now that is not fair typeing fast can make us all mess up some times 98 words per minute, and I'm usually errorless.

If your God is Jesus Christ and You have a relationship with him you have nothing to fear

Good for you 98 words per minute

Originally posted by gpchristloves
If your God is Jesus Christ and You have a relationship with him you have nothing to fear Here's a more important question for you. What makes you so sure that God and Jesus exist?

Originally posted by gpchristloves
If your God is Jesus Christ and You have a relationship with him you have nothing to fear


That thought washes over me like a golden shower from king solomon's mine, warm.

The Earth that he created
the love I know in him
And the fact that the tomb in Israel is empty

Originally posted by gpchristloves
The Earth that he created
the love I know in him
And the fact that the tomb in Israel is empty

A) Actually, most evidence points that the world took billions of years to take form, not merely seven days.

B) That proves nothing.

C) First of all, it wasn't empty. It had ten bodies in it. Even if it was empty when we found it, it would've been thousands of years since it occured. The body could have decompensated by then. This, once again, proves nothing.

So do you think your belief in an invisible avenger is right and those who don't believe in him (or believe in a different invisible avenger) are wrong?

Here we go

If He does exist and i believe i go to heaven because i believe and if i turn out to be wrong it desn't matter
where as if you die and turn out to be wrong your stuck in a bad situation

I personally believe that Christianity is the only way

and you know it is the only religion that states that it is the only way

Originally posted by gpchristloves
Here we go

If He does exist and i believe i go to heaven because i believe and if i turn out to be wrong it desn't matter
where as if you die and turn out to be wrong your stuck in a bad situation

So you choose to believe out of fear?

Originally posted by gpchristloves
Here we go

If He does exist and i believe i go to heaven because i believe and if i turn out to be wrong it desn't matter
where as if you die and turn out to be wrong your stuck in a bad situation See, now you're dealing in absolutes, which the bible states you should not. Hypocrite.

You should also get your facts straight. Jewdism also states that they are "The chosen people."

Much like Christianity, your thoughts are mangled, and incorrect.

NO I believe because he has revealed himself to me in moer ways then i can list and his word is written upon my heart

so your saying that it's your opinion?

THey are Gods Chosen People but they CHose to turn there backs to him

And actually god says that there are absolutes

Originally posted by gpchristloves
NO I believe because he has revealed himself to me in moer ways then i can list and his word is written upon my heart How has he revealed himself to you?

Originally posted by gpchristloves
the age old question

In the past i have baggered this topic into the ground and a few of you know this. I probably even hurt many of yours fellings.

I have been away for a while evaluating my life
and turning back to God

i want to sugest to you all that its not rules rules and its not if you love christ you cant do this or you cant do that.

God doesn't want the rules he wants a relationship

He doesn't care what you do

He doesn't care where you've been

He cares about you, He loves you

Try being his friend first

thats it

Just Friendship

Friendship

A friend who is there after you do all the crap

A friend who no matter how hard you punch him he will keep on hugging you

a father that you can say i hate you i hate you i hate you

Al he says in return is you know what my child i love you

A first step tords be able to know where you will go when you die

Friendship

Just try it

If you have questions just post them

He loves you be his Friend
Originally posted by gpchristloves
I personally believe that Christianity is the only way

and you know it is the only religion that states that it is the only way

Stop trying to force your religion on us.

Kthnxbai. doped

no ITs my beliefe opinion is when you says what you think about something that is sensed by one of the 5

Originally posted by gpchristloves
THey are Gods Chosen People but they CHose to turn there backs to him

And actually god says that there are absolutes

now who said that?

Originally posted by gpchristloves
THey are Gods Chosen People but they CHose to turn there backs to him

And actually god says that there are absolutes No, they didn't chose to turn away from them. It states in the Koran that The Jews chose God, and God chose the Jews. It didn't say it in that exact manner, but that's what it meant.

And while God admits there are absolutes, he states you should turn away. Much like he admits there is sin.

forceing it on you would be if i told you to turn or burn you read my post of your own choosing

Originally posted by gpchristloves
no ITs my beliefe opinion is when you says what you think about something that is sensed by one of the 5

beliefs can often be opinions if they aren't backed up by solid proof

The Bible states that they turned there back from him

Originally posted by gpchristloves
The Bible states that they turned there back from him And the Bible also states that a whore, and a seven headed beast will destroy Babylon. The Bible hasn't been too credible, thus far.

Originally posted by gpchristloves
forceing it on you would be if i told you to turn or burn you read my post of your own choosing

True, but you are still trying to force Christianity on us.

I'd really like it if you took this to the proper forum anyway.

Originally posted by gpchristloves
The Bible states that they turned there back from him

Have you seen the movie Thank You For Smoking?

THe Bible has many things that prove it

God healed my i had lost the sight in my right eye the doctor couldn't explain it and said that it couldn't be cured I praid that Christ would heal me and the next day I got up opend my eyes and could see out of both of them again I had a cousin with Gain Green in is hand they were going to cut his hand of the nest day after me and my cousin had prayed about he the doctor came in looked at my cousins and and there were no trases of the gain green at all
i could go on and on with the things he's helped me get through and cope with but those are just two major things

Yes those are things that will happen not that have happend you do no that they are talking aboout re building the city of Babylon dont you

No I'm asking you to think about it if you choose to disbalieve its your choice

Originally posted by gpchristloves
THe Bible has many things that prove it

God healed my i had lost the sight in my right eye the doctor couldn't explain it and said that it couldn't be cured I praid that Christ would heal me and the next day I got up opend my eyes and could see out of both of them again I had a cousin with Gain Green in is hand they were going to cut his hand of the nest day after me and my cousin had prayed about he the doctor came in looked at my cousins and and there were no trases of the gain green at all
i could go on and on with the things he's helped me get through and cope with but those are just two major things The eye thing can be explained easily by any intelligent doctor.
The Gain Green thing is highly doubtful. I'm calling you out on your bluff, I think you made it up. Matter of fact, I know as strongly as your "God" exists that you made it up.

Anyways, next time you tell a story, do it in a decent gramar format. This is not a chat room. It is a discussion forum.

Originally posted by gpchristloves
Yes those are things that will happen not that have happend you do no that they are talking aboout re building the city of Babylon dont you First of all,Yes I know it's something that will happen. I've extensively researched Christianity and Jewdism.The fact that they plan on re-building a city seems useless. There's no need. The construction would take too long. However, that is not the topic of this conversation. Your blindly placed faith is.

what if they made Babylon into a Casino city like Las Vegas?

Sorry I didn't use grammer.

And I went to a specialist who didn't know what had happend and couldn't figure it out

Um excuse me you just said that for me to be lighing he has to exist

watch out your messing up if your trying to disprove anything

Originally posted by AngryManatee
what if they made Babylon into a Casino city like Las Vegas? Then that'd awesome, however needless. There's one Vegas, there doesn't need to be another.

Some people think that las Vegas is a modern form of what Babylon was and will be

Originally posted by gpchristloves
Sorry I didn't use grammer.

And I went to a specialist who didn't know what had happend and couldn't figure it out

Um excuse me you just said that for me to be lighing he has to exist

watch out your messing up if your trying to disprove anything Yes, I'm well aware of that. I was going to see if you went all "No it's true" so I could mock you for renouncing your God.

And once again, I severely doubt any of that stuff happened. There's really no way for you to prove to me that it did.
And on a side note, even if it did happen, who;s to say your Christian God did. Maybe the ****ing Winged God of Ra did it.

Thats what faith is
Belief in things hoped for and The knowledge of things unseen

Originally posted by gpchristloves
Thats what faith is
Belief in things hoped for and The knowledge of things unseen And that is what makes it so erroneous. The fact that you just believe the most intriguing ludicrous story that's out there, and accept it as a way of life.

When you die you will regret mocking God in the way that you just did and I cant exactly prove to you that those things happend But they did

You uderestimated me also anything you say I will read

And my response will be clear

Originally posted by gpchristloves
When you die you will regret mocking God in the way that you just did and I cant exactly prove to you that those things happend But they did No I won't, because when I die, I will cease to exist. There is no after-life. Only the now.

Originally posted by gpchristloves

And I went to a specialist who didn't know what had happend and couldn't figure it out


Just because you went to a specialist doesn't mean he's going to be a good doctor. My dad still has cancer thanks to some screw-ups by the "specialists" he saw.

Originally posted by gpchristloves
When you die you will regret mocking God in the way that you just did and I cant exactly prove to you that those things happend But they did Originally posted by ~Pielover~
No I won't, because when I die, I will cease to exist. There is no after-life. Only the now.

I have seen cancer cured not by doctors but by God himself a man at my church had Brain cancer to the point that the doctors couldn't perform sugery and Cemo would have killed him Our church prayed for two monthes straight and one day when the doctors did a cat scan to see what the state of the cancer was the growth was completley gone
Explain that

Originally posted by gpchristloves
I have seen cancer cured not by doctors but by God himself a man at my church had Brain cancer to the point that the doctors couldn't perform sugery and Cemo would have killed him Our church prayed for two monthes straight and one day when the doctors did a cat scan to see what the state of the cancer was the growth was completley gone
Explain that Because Cancer can recede. It does that sometimes.

Originally posted by gpchristloves
I have seen cancer cured not by doctors but by God himself a man at my church had Brain cancer to the point that the doctors couldn't perform sugery and Cemo would have killed him Our church prayed for two monthes straight and one day when the doctors did a cat scan to see what the state of the cancer was the growth was completley gone
Explain that

show me evidence of this story

I will Gladley Find you evidense of many like this and send them to you
it might take a day or two

Cancer desn't recede from baseball size to nothing in the 2 days it had been from the last scan

Originally posted by gpchristloves
I will Gladley Find you evidense of many like this and send them to you
it might take a day or two Once again, Tumors sometimes recede. Sometimes the cells that built the cancer aren't strong enough to survive, so when they split, they die out. Thus, the cancer is gone.

Originally posted by gpchristloves
Cancer desn't recede from baseball size to nothing in the 2 days it had been from the last scan It can. If when the cells split, they aren't strong enough to survive, they will die within hours. It's quite possible for all the cancer cells to die out simultaniously.

that is true, cancer cells die faster than regular cells. That's the whole basis on how radiation treatment and chemo work.

yes but the cells take days to brake down even dead cells can be ther for 3 to 4 days after diening and when pilled together it takes even longer

Originally posted by gpchristloves
yes but the cells take days to brake down even dead cells can be ther for 3 to 4 days after diening and when pilled together it takes even longer You need to put down that Bible, and pick up a Biology text book, son.

I have Thank you I've studied Biology for fun in my spare time

Originally posted by gpchristloves
I have seen cancer cured not by doctors but by God himself a man at my church had Brain cancer to the point that the doctors couldn't perform sugery and Cemo would have killed him Our church prayed for two monthes straight and one day when the doctors did a cat scan to see what the state of the cancer was the growth was completley gone
Explain that

I'm an agnostic, but to be fair you haven't actually ever SEEN God do anything. You've seen people do things that you are giving God credit for.

-AC

Campbell Reece: Biology 7th Edition is really good, that's what I had to buy for my class.

No I have seen things happen to people and noone did anything to the person other that pray for them

That is a very good biology textbook

I have to go for now but I will read all comments when i return and respond to all that i can

one must take into acount the amazing things the human body itself can do when it comes to illness.

"What happens when you Die?"

You shit your pants, or so I heard.

To a point i do agrea the bodies that God Gave us are quite amazing

Just one question. You do realize there is a religion forum, correct?

Originally posted by ~Pielover~
A) Actually, most evidence points that the world took billions of years to take form, not merely seven days.

B) That proves nothing.

C) First of all, it wasn't empty. It had ten bodies in it. Even if it was empty when we found it, it would've been thousands of years since it occured. The body could have decompensated by then. This, once again, proves nothing.


Just for the first part. We don't know it took literally seven days. Because God does not relate to time the same way we do, 7 days for God could be 100 of billions of billions of years for us. Besides, the bible isn't supposed to be taken literally

Originally posted by gpchristloves
the age old question

In the past i have baggered this topic into the ground and a few of you know this. I probably even hurt many of yours fellings.

I have been away for a while evaluating my life
and turning back to God

i want to sugest to you all that its not rules rules and its not if you love christ you cant do this or you cant do that.

God doesn't want the rules he wants a relationship

He doesn't care what you do

He doesn't care where you've been

He cares about you, He loves you

Try being his friend first

thats it

Just Friendship

Friendship

A friend who is there after you do all the crap

A friend who no matter how hard you punch him he will keep on hugging you

a father that you can say i hate you i hate you i hate you

Al he says in return is you know what my child i love you

A first step tords be able to know where you will go when you die

Friendship

Just try it

If you have questions just post them

He loves you be his Friend

http://www.forumspile.com/Loves-NotJesus.jpg

Originally posted by Barker
Jacope Jesfen was born in Anaheim, California on July 7, 1991. His father Jacope Jesfen is a former professional soccer player for Sporting Cristal(Peru) and a driver. His mother Gladys Jesfen works with Multi service. Jacope had two older sisters Sheel Jesfen and Yvette Jesfen who he lived with in Anaheim and with there parents. When they flew to New Jersey, Jacope had another sister named Gladys Jesfen. They lived in New Jersey for a couple of week and then moved to Stamford, Connecticut. He lived there for years, even today. He started school in Julia Stark school for Kindergarten and first grade. During those times, his father took him and his little sister to Peru during the end of first grade and stays there with his family there for eight months. His parents had troubles with there relationship. They both had a divorce in 1997. Jacope and Gladys came back to the Stamford On January 1998. He continued to second grade in Rogers Magnet school. He luckily made it to third grade since most of his first grade finished in Peru. He goes to Newfield Elementary school. He started to play in a soccer team in California every time he had the chance in the summer and moved on to Travel. He got training from his dad and it helped him get better. He then went on to K.T. Murphy in fourth and fifth grade. During a game one day, he broke his leg and was unable to play for awhile. He finishes elementary school in the year 2002 to go on to middle school. He decided to go to T.O.R. He starts to play soccer again when he was in seventh grade and he lost alot of his great skills. He finishes Middle school well and goes on to high school in Westhill. He played for the freshmen team but Jacope Jesfen was very mad at the coach's way of training, he quits that team and kept on playing for Stamford. Jacope is struggling in high school but is getting better since he is only a freshmen. This summer, he is going to play in Peru for the first time and will keep on going to try out for Junior Varsity and Varsity. Jacope today is living in a town house, still living in Stamford Connecticut.

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