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D-Wag
This movie was great in my opinion. It followed the events that actually took place very well, an the picture was awesome. It would definitely go on my top Sci-Fi/Fantasy list along with Gladiator, Patriot, Matrix, an Star Wars. big grin

G U I T A R
Theres already a thread on this in the movie discussion forum buddy. smile

SnakeEyes
^ What he said.

And seriously... how does 300, Gladiator, OR the Patriot fall into the Sci-Fi category?

roughrider
Originally posted by SnakeEyes
^ What he said.

And seriously... how does 300, Gladiator, OR the Patriot fall into the Sci-Fi category?

It doesn't...neither do the others.
Do younger people ever pick up a history book these days?

Anyway, there are multiple threads on 300 already in several forums. Close this one.

Spartan005
actually 300 is fantasy...

roughrider
Originally posted by Spartan005
actually 300 is fantasy...

No it is not - just because it looks hyper-stylized doesn't make it fantasy.

Closing...

Blaxican
Originally posted by roughrider
No it is not - just because it looks hyper-stylized doesn't make it fantasy.

Closing...

It's absed off of a comci book, tool.

roughrider
Originally posted by Blaxican
It's absed off of a comci book, tool.

SO? roll eyes (sarcastic)

I can go to the comic book store, and in the Graphic Novel section find an illustrated bio of Martin Luther King (written by Andrew Helfer, drawn by Kyle Baker), or a book about a young man exploring Palestine ( written & drawn by Joe Sacco), or an animator's experience working in Pyongyang, North Korea etc etc...

Because the stories are in comic form, does that make them Science Fiction and Fantasy?

Give your head a shake.

Blaxican
When the comic book involved has giant monsters in them then yes, yes it does.

roughrider
Originally posted by Blaxican
When the comic book involved has giant monsters in them then yes, yes it does.

What giant monsters? I didn't see any.

The movie has a Rhino, Elephants, a very tall Asiatic man held in chains, and a Persian executioner with knifeblades extending from his stumpy arms. None of these qualify as monsters or fantasy creatures - the latter two are horrific-looking humans at best.

Blaxican
The Comic that the movie is based on has monsters in it.

SnakeEyes
Originally posted by Blaxican
The Comic that the movie is based on has monsters in it.

My memory may be a bit hazy, but I don't remember ANY monsters in the graphic novel.

Only the deformed Spartan... who isn't really a fantasy monster, just a deformed human.

roughrider
Originally posted by Blaxican
The Comic that the movie is based on has monsters in it.

NO. IT. DOESN'T. ( I am speaking very slowly now...)

One hunchbacked greek traitor does not make a monster.

Strangelove
*sigh* Did anyone report this?

*does so*

There's already a thread in MDF, and if it belongs in any subforum, it's Comic Book Movies

Spartan005
Originally posted by Spartan005
actually 300 is fantasy...
Originally posted by roughrider
What giant monsters? I didn't see any.

The movie has a Persian executioner with knifeblades extending from his stumpy arms.

Thank you for undeniably proving my point

teampac08
Movie was based on actual events, but a lot of it was fake. Virgin being possessed by a supernatural being known as the oracle, guys on top of the hill that leonidas were speaking to were not even considered human anymore, tall asian man in chains was a monster in the movie not in real life, and the executioner of course is in no way realistic. Maybe we have the capability to give a man blades for hands today, but no way could that have been done during their times.

Taking historical events and twisting it with exaggerated action and adventure makes it partly fiction.

Silverstein
Originally posted by teampac08
Movie was based on actual events, but a lot of it was fake. Virgin being possessed by a supernatural being known as the oracle, guys on top of the hill that leonidas were speaking to were not even considered human anymore, tall asian man in chains was a monster in the movie not in real life, and the executioner of course is in no way realistic. Maybe we have the capability to give a man blades for hands today, but no way could that have been done during their times.

Taking historical events and twisting it with exaggerated action and adventure makes it partly fiction.


*sigh* the earth is not as simple as you think, keep an open mind. Frank Miller's 300 is narrated in way that people experience things that never witness before, like describing what a strawberry to someone who has never tasted a strawberry...anyways im getting side tracked.

The far reaches of the world, there's bound to be a atleast one disfigured 6'9 asian guy to be born, keep him in the dark, deprived, but keep him in shape and there you go, a monster. As for the tubby excecutioner, cut his forearms off and attach his arms with bone barrow from a large animal, shaped into blades, and cauterize his arms. make sure he's fat too...really fat and ugly, there you go.

SnakeEyes
Alright, let me settle this.

First off. 300 is NOT SCI-FI OR FANTASY.

Is that clear to everyone? Okay.

Secondly, it is a work of fiction loosely based off of real events. There were no wizards in the film, no magic, etc. The Oracle was actually something used in real life... so that part of the film was actually fairly accurate.

There were some disfigured humans in the film, but that doesn't make it fantasy all of the sudden.

And like Dr. Strangelove said, even if this movie did belong in a sub-forum, it would be the Comic Book Movies one.

Lord Melkor
Well, since I saw an Uruk-Hai in Persian Army straight from Lord of the Rings, I see why this can be considered a fantasy film.

teampac08
It's got some fantasy elements into it but for the most part I do agree that it's not a fantasy film. Yes, I know there's no monsters in real life or in history but in the film many of the characters were portrayed as monsters. Hear the storyteller, he'll describe something as literally not human. Like the figures that Leonidas talked to on top of the hill. I know the oracle was real by historical accounts, but there was mystique in the movie. The virgin was possessed by some supernatural spirit. Yes the immortals were real persian soldiers at one time. In the movie, however, they were literally considered barely human. Just look at their faces when the mask is off. And it's safe to assume that the character in chains was supposed to be a monster of some sort in the movie, not in real life. He's got the look and feel of a troll you'd see in a fantasy film.

Strangelove
Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Well, since I saw an Uruk-Hai in Persian Army straight from Lord of the Rings, I see why this can be considered a fantasy film. Ugh, you're a moron

ADarksideJedi
That movie had no plot and was such a long drag movie.It sucked and I payed twenty dollars to see it>jm

Lord Melkor
Originally posted by Strangelove
Ugh, you're a moron

Why do you think so? embarrasment My comment was half-serious anyway and we are talking about the movie that is far away from history and completely unrealistic.

How about a quasi-historical epic with fantasy elements then?

ADarksideJedi
He is just making trouble pay no attention to that guy!jm

SnakeEyes
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
That movie had no plot and was such a long drag movie.It sucked and I payed twenty dollars to see it>jm

You are quite possibly THE dumbest member I've ever encountered on these forums. I mean, don't take it too personally, but jesus.... you really need help.

And I'm not basing this off of just this post. I've read a ton of them and they ALL illustrate your stupidity.

You're and annoyance on these boards, in my opinion.

AND 300 IS NOT ****IN FANTASY.

ADarksideJedi
It is base on a true story and yes I know.It also have alot of incorrect things about it.Yout hink I am dumb?If you like that kind of movies you are minus a brain.So I would take back what you said aboiut me!@jm

roughrider
There are a lot of people in here who apparently are deaf, dumb or just stubborn.

300 IS NOT A FANTASY MOVIE.

Kardinal
300 isn't a fantasy movie, but it's clearly only loosely based on the Battle of Thermopylae. I just wished they would have based the movie more on fact, while retaining the awsome style instead of making a "hero movie" where The Spartans are noble and admirable and the Persians are portrayed as weird, blood thirsty psychopaths with odd creatures. That being said, the movie was still good.

ADarksideJedi
I like movies that are base on facts.The movie again could had been better and should had followed the real story.Then maybe I would had found it interesting.jm

SnakeEyes
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I like movies that are base on facts.

You're favorite movies are the Star Wars films. roll eyes (sarcastic)

ADarksideJedi
That proves nothing.It is still a horrible movie.People who don't like it.Does not mean they are stupid it means they have comman sence!jm

jaden101
Originally posted by Kardinal
300 isn't a fantasy movie, but it's clearly only loosely based on the Battle of Thermopylae. I just wished they would have based the movie more on fact, while retaining the awsome style instead of making a "hero movie" where The Spartans are noble and admirable and the Persians are portrayed as weird, blood thirsty psychopaths with odd creatures. That being said, the movie was still good.

you're completely missing the point.

the film is told by a narrator and is in past tense.

the narrator is a spartan soldier who's duty it is to bolster the spartan army on the eve of the battle of plataea with tales from thermopylae.

thats why the persians are portrayed as monsters...because the spartans saw them as invading monsters

it's called a visual metaphor...not exactly difficult to "get" either

Spartan King
300 was just awesome! My favorite movie. It's been a while since we've got a great war/action move like that, IMO.

ADarksideJedi
It been a while for us to get a good action movie that makes sence and is actly good!jm

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