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Fight takes place in the Canadian wilderness with no people around. Both going all out who wins?

I gotta go with Sasquatch here.

Ooh, good thread.

I reckon Wonderman has better durability, but Sasquatch has better strength.

Probably Sasquath 7/10

Sasquatch wins 7/10.

haha see I don't know and I'm suppose to the AF fanboy :P

Wonderman has better strength feats. Speeds not a factor as Sasquatch has caught Northstar in mid-flight several times. A thunderclap did take out WW, can't remember if it was ionic or regular Wonderman.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
haha see I don't know and I'm suppose to the AF fanboy :P

Wonderman has better strength feats. Speeds not a factor as Sasquatch has caught Northstar in mid-flight several times. A thunderclap did take out WW, can't remember if it was ionic or regular Wonderman. Wonderman has better strength feats? Which ones?

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Wonderman has better strength feats? Which ones?

Held a press that was 50,000 tons or some jazz like that. He even physically overpowered Thor for a short while.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Held a press that was 50,000 tons or some jazz like that. He even physically overpowered Thor for a short while. I saw that feat. But remember him failing and yelling for help or something. I heard it's a misconception.

Wonderman has been taking some beatings lately. In Mighty Avengers #1 he was beat around a couple times. I still say Sasquatch wins.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I saw that feat. But remember him failing and yelling for help or something. I heard it's a misconception.

Wonderman has been taking some beatings lately. In Mighty Avengers #1 he was beat around a couple times. I still say Sasquatch wins.

I don't know he held it for quite an extended period of time, over a few minutes at least. He was struggling, but still held it.

Mighty Avengers WM forgot he could fly half the issue, Bah!

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I don't know he held it for quite an extended period of time, over a few minutes at least. He was struggling, but still held it.

Mighty Avengers WM forgot he could fly half the issue, Bah! The press was moving down slowly and he tried to stop it but the press kept pushing him down and he started to yell for help almost instantly. I have the issue but no scanner. It's nothing Sasquatch could not have done.

Are you saying WM wins?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Fight takes place in the Canadian wilderness with no people around. Both going all out who wins?

I gotta go with Sasquatch here.

I agree. Walter/Banner took on Wen-di-go. Did well, before the curse by Shaman

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The press was moving down slowly and he tried to stop it but the press kept pushing him down and he started to yell for help almost instantly. I have the issue but no scanner. It's nothing Sasquatch could not have done.

Are you saying WM wins?

Here's the scan from the WM respect thread, even though he did yell for help he was still holding it up. Did the next page reveal something I'm missing? as I havn't read the issue in question
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers192075xt.jpg

I'm undecided as WonderMan has done some impressive stuff, but also done many things that put him in doubt here.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Fight takes place in the Canadian wilderness with no people around. Both going all out who wins?

I gotta go with Sasquatch here.

Sidious is taking Wonderman

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Sidious is taking Wonderman Sidious is not in this fight. It's Sasquatch and Wonderman.Originally posted by King_Mungi
Here's the scan from the WM respect thread, even though he did yell for help he was still holding it up. Did the next page reveal something I'm missing? as I havn't read the issue in question
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avengers192075xt.jpg

I'm undecided as WonderMan has done some impressive stuff, but also done many things that put him in doubt here. On the next page Wonderman admitts that's what he gets for being too cocky.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Sidious is not in this fight. It's Sasquatch and Wonderman.

LordSidious speaks in the third person . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
LordSidious speaks in the third person . . . I see. That is kinda odd but now it makes sense.

Now that Wonderman isnt ionic, can he tire and does he not have use for air? If so, im gonna give Sassy the win. Just as strong imo, healing factor and cooler character. Sassy 7/10.

Why the heck did Mighty Avengers Wonderman forget or lose the ability to fly? Did his mini reveal something or just Bendis at work again?

Dunno, Bendis mentioned that some of the members powers might be a little different, so i was just thinking that he can't fly and that it would be explained (someday).

But he seems to be flying in the Initiative...
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/363/698newstoryimage3907608ss6.jpg

So most likely just a goof on Bendis part, as it looked like WM was flying near the end of the issue.

Wonder Man...of course. Sasquatch is strong i ll give you that. His fight with the Juggernaut proved that he can curb a 100er when he has to. Even though Juggernaut may have been in his weaker form he was still well in the 100 ton class.
Wonder Man has always been ionic in case that one guy had a misconception it was just that his energies changed due to the nega bomb he was exposed to that killed him. least i think thats how it happened.
I didn't know he had been returned to the old Wonder Man. I like him better that way.
Looks like Sasquatch is good on burst fighting where Wonder Man is good at two types. Standing up an opponent by the knees and going a longer distance in a fight than others. You'd really have to kill him to win or he'll eventually get the upper hand and knock ya out.
I don't think Sasquatch is powerful enough to seriously harm ionc particals which is what Simon is.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
His fight with the Juggernaut proved that he can curb a 100er when he has to. Even though Juggernaut may have been in his weaker form he was still well in the 100 ton class.

I don't think Sasquatch is powerful enough to seriously harm ionc particals which is what Simon is.


That fight was not Sasquatch best fight anyways

Now that I disagree there have been many people at Sasquatch level and below who have hurt WM.

Well you know not even the Hulk has the invulnerability of Juggernaut.
So naturally someone like Namor could have an effect on someone bigger but by the book anyhow Sasquatch is 90 to 95 ton and Wonder Man is def. 95 ton which makes him just a bit stronger anyhow.
His ionic power however gives him the stamina which in any fight between heros is a frickin` HUGE advantage.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
Well you know not even the Hulk has the invulnerability of Juggernaut.
So naturally someone like Namor could have an effect on someone bigger but by the book anyhow Sasquatch is 90 to 95 ton and Wonder Man is def. 95 ton which makes him just a bit stronger anyhow.
His ionic power however gives him the stamina which in any fight between heros is a frickin` HUGE advantage. You don't stomp Super Skrull to only be called a 90 tonner...

Also, wasn't it like his first appearance where he lifted a 250 ton abject?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Why the heck did Mighty Avengers Wonderman forget or lose the ability to fly? Did his mini reveal something or just Bendis at work again? A little off topic but in the Mighty Avengers #1 where Iron Man and Mrs. Marvel are looking at the screen with potential members I think there is a pic. of Blade there on the screen. Is that Blade or somebody else? That's be cool if he joined one of the teams.Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Dunno, Bendis mentioned that some of the members powers might be a little different, so i was just thinking that he can't fly and that it would be explained (someday).

But he seems to be flying in the Initiative...
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/363/698newstoryimage3907608ss6.jpg Looks like somebody punched him again. But he could be flying.

Originally posted by bigbran
You don't stomp Super Skrull to only be called a 90 tonner...

Also, wasn't it like his first appearance where he lifted a 250 ton abject? With all due respect I think Super Skull had some sickness during that fight. Could be wrong though but King Mungi would know for sure.

And yea tossin' a 250 ton plane was his very first appearance.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
With all due respect I think Super Skull had some sickness during that fight. Could be wrong though but King Mungi would know for sure.

And yea tossin' a 250 ton plane was his very first appearance. I have the comic... he did have cancer.
But at the first part, Super Skrull said he hit him with everything he had, and it didn't effect him... not to mention he was bragging about him being more powerful than the F4.
He never really showed his sickness until later on.

That's what I thought, thanks.

yeah well my very first was in my own bed with older but that didn't make me an elder.
ain't no way he's 250 ton strength. i guess tossing the plane takes great power but really if he was 250 he'd be as great as Kurse.
he's listed at 90 anyhow if my memory serves correct. just goes to show you the potential of a 90toner. if one can throw a 250ton object then one beating someone like the Hulk seems possible...something that a lot of people on this site have spent years argueing aginst.

Originally posted by bigbran
Also, wasn't it like his first appearance where he lifted a 250 ton abject?

Yep he tossed a DC-10 which was 250 tons while the engines were still on 1000 feet...with ease


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Uncanny X-Men #120 (Vol.1): Sasquatch I
In his first appearance he threw a 250 ton DC-10 1000 feet in reverse, crashing into a building even while the engines were still. The engines were stated to produce 150,000 pounds of thrust. He toosed it 1000 feeet with ease

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Sasplane1.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/UncannyX-Men120b.jpg


Originally posted by snoopdogg
With all due respect I think Super Skull had some sickness during that fight. Could be wrong though but King Mungi would know for sure.

And yea tossin' a 250 ton plane was his very first appearance.

Yep Cancer


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Alpha Flight #10 (Vol.1): Super Skrull
He beats the Super Skrull. First he goes toe to toe with him in strength and then beats him by playing possum and using his head

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10a.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10b.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10c.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10d.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10e.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10f.jpg
7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10g.jpg
8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10h.jpg
9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10i.jpg
10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10j.jpg
11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF10k.jpg


Originally posted by Wonder Man
yeah well my very first was in my own bed with older but that didn't make me an elder.
ain't no way he's 250 ton strength. i guess tossing the plane takes great power but really if he was 250 he'd be as great as Kurse.
he's listed at 90 anyhow if my memory serves correct. just goes to show you the potential of a 90toner. if one can throw a 250ton object then one beating someone like the Hulk seems possible...something that a lot of people on this site have spent years argueing aginst.

There is no class 250, only class 100 which Sasquatch and even Kurse are. Actually he's listed as just only class 70, yet his many many feats of course go against that. Like Hulk, he can increase his strength via rage or pain thanks to the Great Beast Tanaraq influencing him.

Sasquatch did beat an alternate reality Hulk actually

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9323/avengers192075xt.th.jpg

Originally posted by snoopdogg
On the next page Wonderman admitts that's what he gets for being too cocky.

Seems to be a recurring theme with him.


http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9701/23267177cp5.th.jpg http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8770/11002495gl9.th.jpg

wonderman for a high majority. 8/10. and in straight h2h, it's really hard for me to see sas taking those 2 i gave him.

Originally posted by leonidas
wonderman for a high majority. 8/10. and in straight h2h, it's really hard for me to see sas taking those 2 i gave him. Who would you say is stronger?

I would say Wonderman is through superior strength feats.

I was gonna say Sasquatch is stronger. What is eithers best feat?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Who would you say is stronger?

simon, unquestionably in my mind. he also has the greater durability feats.