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who are the best debaters who use to be massive fan boy?

this is not to mkae fun of any one by the way it simple to show who has improved from being a terriably bias debater who new nothing to people who has become quite good

I'd put you in the list!
You've come a long way.

Not you! In all fairness your annoying but you do know alot about Wolverine and can make good points....I still hate you and wolverine though.

Originally posted by Juntai
I'd put you in the list!
You've come a long way.
thanks

Originally posted by Alfheim
Not you! In all fairness your annoying but you do know alot about Wolverine and can make good points....I still hate you and wolverine though.
at least I don't think capt can hit with 100 ton force becuase of skill

Originally posted by capt it up
at least I don't think capt can hit with 100 ton force becuase of skill

Well if you actually bothered to read and UNDERSTAND what I said you wouldnt roll your eyes.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well if you actually bothered to read and UNDERSTAND what I said you wouldnt roll your eyes.
no I understoud perfectly you said due to skill then can cause as much damage as a 100 class punch. any ways you say it and it still sounds dumb really dumb

Originally posted by capt it up
no I understoud perfectly you said due to skill then can cause as much damage as a 100 class punch. any ways you say it and it still sounds dumb really dumb

Yeahs thats why Cap was able to stun Namor underwater...thats why Cap has been able to knock Namor to the ground.

Considerring that Namor has class 100 strength you would need a similar amount of force to:

a) stun him
b) knock him on his back.

Batman has done similar things, his striking power is great. Strikes at a level way beyond human ability.

100 tons though?
No, sorry.

Both Cap and Batman would still snap their hands and do nothing damage-wise if they ran into a true 100 tonner like Superman.

Originally posted by Juntai
Batman has done similar things, his striking power is great. Strikes at a level way beyond human ability.

100 tons though?
No, sorry.

Both Cap and Batman would still snap their hands and do nothing damage-wise if they ran into a true 100 tonner like Superman.

Namor isnt a true 100 tonner now?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeahs thats why Cap was able to stun Namor underwater...thats why Cap has been able to knock Namor to the ground.

Considerring that Namor has class 100 strength you would need a similar amount of force to:

a) stun him
b) knock him on his back.
stunn him via device on namor neck


knock him on his back not a big deal when namor weights less then capt can lift

Originally posted by capt it up
who are the best debaters who use to be massive fan boy?

Well in all fairness, not Alfheim.

Originally posted by capt it up
stunn him via device on namor neck

Not when he was underwater.

Originally posted by capt it up


knock him on his back not a big deal when namor weights less then capt can lift

I repeat.

Originally posted by Alfheim


It doesnt matter how much he weighs......Namor can lift 100s of tons out of water.....THE STRNGEH OF HIS MUSCLES SHOULD STOP HIM FROM BEING KNOCKED DOWN......therefore its Caps skill that knock him down.

Namor can lift 100 of tons why is it all of a sudden he muscles cant enable him to get knocked down?

Originally posted by Soleran
Well in all fairness, not Alfheim.

Not a fanboy..right?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Not when he was underwater.



I repeat.



Namor can lift 100 of tons why is it all of a sudden he muscles cant enable him to get knocked down?
muslces don't matter. If you are 200 pounds reguardless of your strength and your hitt by a guy who can lift many tiems that you will get nocked over

Originally posted by capt it up
muslces don't matter. If you are 200 pounds reguardless of your strength and your hitt by a guy who can lift many tiems that you will get nocked over

Ok so why is it that Namor has been punched by class 100s and not gone flying then?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok so why is it that Namor has been punched by class 100s and not gone flying then?
he shoudl, but comics logic is inconstent.

not to mention if capt could punsh with 100 ton pressure he kill all his rouges in a single attack pritty much

Originally posted by capt it up
he shoudl, but comics logic is inconstent.


But he doesnt! So let me get this straight right a persons muscles enable you to lift 100s of tons but when 200 pounds hit you you cant stop yourself from falling over...am i getting this right?

What so they cant use their muscles o root themselves to the spot?

Originally posted by Alfheim
But he doesnt! So let me get this straight right a persons muscles enable you to lift 100s of tons but when 200 pounds hit you you cant stop yourself from falling over...am i getting this right?

What so they cant use their muscles o root themselves to the spot?

they can how ever there legs don't attach them selfs to the ground if the punch was at an up word angle he go into the air



your the one with the falty logic. Capt nock over namor so that must mean capt punches with 100 ton force?

do you understand how dumb that sounds?

Originally posted by capt it up
they can how ever there legs don't attach them selfs to the ground if the punch was at an up word angle he go into the air

Even if its an upward angle his muscles should give resistance from the punches stopping them from flying in the air. You dont think Namors neck muscles have superhuman strength, if their superhuman shouldnt that give resistance to a punch?

Yeah but they dont always get punched at an upward angle. They have been hit at horizontal angles loads of times, the strength in their legs should stop them from falling over. Ive seen Cap hit Namor in the face from ahorizontal angle and his head went right back explain that then.

Originally posted by capt it up

your the one with the falty logic. Capt nock over namor so that must mean capt punches with 100 ton force?

do you understand how dumb that sounds?

They have been hit at horizontal angles loads of times, the strength in their legs should stop them from falling over. Ive seen Cap hit Namor in the face from ahorizontal angle and his head went right back explain that then.

Lets try and explain this better...somebody who has class 100 strength does not just have it in his arms but all over his body...what do you think would happen if a class 100 person flexed their stomache muscles and somebody weighing 200 pound tryed to kick them over by kicking them in the stomache? Wouldnt the strength in their muscles create enough resistance so they dont get knocked over???

Originally posted by Alfheim
Lets try and explain this better...somebody who has class 100 strength does not just have it in his arms but all over his body...what do you think would happen if a class 100 person flexed their stomache muscles and somebody weighing 200 pound tryed to kick them over by kicking them in the stomache? Wouldnt the strength in their muscles create enough resistance so they dont get knocked over???

In comics they would, but in the real world it doesn't work like that.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Lets try and explain this better...somebody who has class 100 strength does not just have it in his arms but all over his body...what do you think would happen if a class 100 person flexed their stomache muscles and somebody weighing 200 pound tryed to kick them over by kicking them in the stomache? Wouldnt the strength in their muscles create enough resistance so they dont get knocked over???

It's called bad/retarted/plain stupid/PIS writing. Cap doesn't hit with 100 ton force.

Suspension of disbelief is needed when reading comics.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It's called bad/retarted/plain stupid/PIS writing. Cap doesn't hit with 100 ton force.

Suspension of disbelief is needed when reading comics.

Ok you are misunderstanding me then......he does not hit with a hundred tons of force but he can use skill to replicate it...for example pressure points and skill.....do you get it? For example if the Hulk where fighting Namor he would use brute force to knock him out, Cap would go for pressure points and weak points.

lol

I mean no offense, but I also would put you on the list, Capt.

Comparing your posts now with the 88888 days?

Definitely came a LONG way.

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
In comics they would, but in the real world it doesn't work like that.


I dont see how in the real world or in comics somebody who class 100 strength cant stop himself from being pushed over by somebody who weighs 200 lbs.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont see how in the real world or in comics somebody who class 100 strength cant stop himself from being pushed over by somebody who weighs 200 lbs.

it shouldn't work like that but it does, there are so many of these ridiculous pseudo physics laws that apply in comic universes, for example when ever Superman tries to catch anyone falling out of a building his momentum would easily kill the person he is catching. Why do objects that weigh many kilo tons not collapse under their own weight when being lifted ? There are so many of these pseudo laws its un true, its as if Newtonian physics doesn't apply in comics. The one that always gets me is the ability to absorb and store immense amounts of energy in seemingly impossible ways . I was thinking about making a thread about this, but it doesn't look like the physical laws in comic universes are that objective.

Originally posted by Juntai
Batman has done similar things, his striking power is great. Strikes at a level way beyond human ability.

100 tons though?
No, sorry.

Both Cap and Batman would still snap their hands and do nothing damage-wise if they ran into a true 100 tonner like Superman. Originally posted by Alfheim
Namor isnt a true 100 tonner now? Namor may be a 100 tonner, but he would get his arse handed to him by the likes of Superman, who is FAR superior, but also still considered as a class 100 character.

Originally posted by Galan007
Namor may be a 100 tonner, but he would get his arse handed to him by the likes of Superman, who is FAR superior, but also still considered as a class 100 character.

No offense, but who considers Superman a class 100 tonner ? Just curious?

my threads never stay on topic........

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
No offense, but who considers Superman a class 100 tonner ? Just curious? Ohh he's FAR greater then that, but I'm just using Marvel standards.

Originally posted by capt it up
who are the best debaters who use to be massive fan boy?

I don't understand the concept of a fan boy. We all champion a character. Looking at my avatar, that's what I am about

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
it shouldn't work like that but it does, there are so many of these ridiculous pseudo physics laws that apply in comic universes, for example when ever Superman tries to catch anyone falling out of a building his momentum would easily kill the person he is catching. Why do objects that weigh many kilo tons not collapse under their own weight when being lifted ? There are so many of these pseudo laws its un true, its as if Newtonian physics doesn't apply in comics. The one that always gets me is the ability to absorb and store immense amounts of energy in seemingly impossible ways . I was thinking about making a thread about this, but it doesn't look like the physical laws in comic universes are that objective.

Yeaaaahhh I know but there are still some logic. Doesnt it stand to reason that the reason why when class 100 fight each other the reason why they dont go flying on each punch is because their muscles give off resistance.

I just dont get it. Namor can lift 100s of tons but gets knocked over by a 200 lb man, surely inst the reason why Cap can do is because of his skill. Thats why fo example Cap was able to shred Iron mans armour...yeah he got some help, but the armour was still damn durable....Cap knows about weak points so he ***ed it up.

Anyway this whole knocking him to the ground thing is getting too complicated.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dont see how in the real world or in comics somebody who class 100 strength cant stop himself from being pushed over by somebody who weighs 200 lbs.

Basically the problem here is that you are using the real world relationship between weight and strength as a measure of comic book strength

There is a detailed answer I can try and get into, though the physics of movement is dry and complicated at the best of time, let alone when someone has emotional value placed in how the results come out.

Look, your argument should go something like this: Because of his skill, Cap's punches can be even more effective at putting down an opponent than those from a 100 tonner.

You absolutely NEED to qualify what you are saying. What you are literally saying, ie, the meaning of the words you are using is that Cap's punches can have the same effect as those from a class 100 person, which is always wrong. You should be saying something about the purpose of those punches, ie in defeating an opponent, and why Cap's are as effective at that end as someone hundreds of times stronger.

Originally posted by inamilist
Basically the problem here is that you are using the real world relationship between weight and strength as a measure of comic book strength

There is a detailed answer I can try and get into, though the physics of movement is dry and complicated at the best of time, let alone when someone has emotional value placed in how the results come out.

Look, your argument should go something like this: Because of his skill, Cap's punches can be even more effective at putting down an opponent than those from a 100 tonner.

You absolutely NEED to qualify what you are saying. What you are literally saying, ie, the meaning of the words you are using is that Cap's punches can have the same effect as those from a class 100 person, which is always wrong. You should be saying something about the purpose of those punches, ie in defeating an opponent, and why Cap's are as effective at that end as someone hundreds of times stronger.

Well for starters im trying to get scans of Cap stunning Namor underwater....what im saying is Hercules would use brute force to knock out Namor. Cap would use pressure points or weak points.

Ok here it is.


http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2299/captainamerica36514od1.jpg

Originally posted by Donkey Punch
I was thinking about making a thread about this, but it doesn't look like the physical laws in comic universes are that objective.

I've always wanted to make a thread called "best moments in comic science" or something, showcasing the best abuses of real science by the comic community.

The references to Quantum alone could fill pages...

lol, but all in all, comics are comics because they aren't science

Originally posted by capt it up
my threads never stay on topic........

haha, no.... its all that wolverine hate

Honestly man, you are probably the quintessential reformed fanboy. Like guy just said, we all have our characters, but the only person I am aware of that has gone from blind worship to logical argument is you. Please don't take any of that the wrong way, it is meant as a compliment.

lol, and I like Alfheim . I don't visit the vs forum too often, so I don't know about his fanboyness, but he is always pumping something, crazy or not.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well for starters im trying to get scans of Cap stunning Namor underwater....what im saying is Hercules would use brute force to knock out Namor. Cap would use pressure points or weak points.

Ok here it is..not Cap says a "blow to his throat"

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2299/captainamerica36514od1.jpg

I really don't want to debate scans, but the fact that Namor is being controlled by the "controller's disk" in that scan should invalidate it.

Nevertheless there are many other instances of cap beating up on stronger opponents I'm sure.

What you have said above is all you need to say.

Cap is more skilled. These skills allow him to do feats in combat against far stronger opponents that would otherwise be impossible.

People are only reacting because you mixed your words. Instead, you started comparing Cap's strikes to those from class 100 characters. In this light it should be understandable as to why people have criticized your opinion.

Originally posted by inamilist
I really don't want to debate scans, but the fact that Namor is being controlled by the "controller's disk" in that scan should invalidate it.

Er no, because there is no evidence to indicate that being mind controlled makes you less durable. It can reduce your fighting skills but not your durability. Hell in one fight that Cap had with Wolverine the mind control made him more durable....so not the disk does not negate anything except he was not using all his intellect.


Originally posted by inamilist


Nevertheless there are many other instances of cap beating up on stronger opponents I'm sure.

What you have said above is all you need to say.

Cap is more skilled. These skills allow him to do feats in combat against far stronger opponents that would otherwise be impossible.

People are only reacting because you mixed your words. Instead, you started comparing Cap's strikes to those from class 100 characters. In this light it should be understandable as to why people have criticized your opinion.

Ok.

How 'bout we rename this thread:

"Official Capt It Up Cock-Stroke Thread"

I like it.

Originally posted by capt it up
who are the best debaters who use to be massive fan boy?

You.

Originally posted by "V"
How 'bout we rename this thread:

"Official Capt It Up Cock-Stroke Thread"

I like it.

Soujaboy, Batdude, Bigbran, Capt it Up, etc.

I'm sorry, but most debaters still suck.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I'm sorry, but most debaters still suck.

A very well argued point.

Originally posted by Dinalfos
I'm sorry, but most debaters still suck.

Sore about not being mentioned? We'll soon deal with that.

"You know who's really gone far? That dude with Danny Glover as his avatar, what's his face.. Dinaflos or something. Went from a lowly Hulk Fanboy to an all around good member."

I'd put Nvrbeenwthagirl on the list. He used to be an obnoxious punk, but it turns out he was right on alot of his DC statements. So now he's a decent member of the forum.

Agreed. Nvr can still be a little bit fanboyish, but he's a lot more congenial than he was back in the day.

He'll always be nvrhadaclue to me.

Originally posted by Validus
He'll always be nvrhadaclue to me.

Those were the days....

@ Cap being able to hit with 100 tons of force.

lol.

Originally posted by Validus
He'll always be nvrhadaclue to me.

Capt it up's still the biggest Spider-Man fanboy ever.

I'd say Varnage has come a long way

I vote Tricker.....he went from being an Apoc fanboy to.....oh wait,this is improved

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Soujaboy, Batdude, Bigbran, Capt it Up, etc. Hey, hey, hey, hey... blow me.

Batdude went from being a massive Batman fanboy, to being a massive Magneto fanboy... is that really improving?

Also, Devil Goblin, xmeat.

What the hell... this whole thread is Capt it up fishing for compliments!

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
What the hell... this whole thread is Capt it up fishing for compliments! I don't really see how he has gotten better...

He has gotten better... did you read his wolverine8888 days?

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
He has gotten better... did you read his wolverine8888 days? Ya...

but he still seems to only respond to wolverine threads...

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
but he still seems to only respond to wolverine threads...

Too true.

Originally posted by batdude123
@ Cap being able to hit with 100 tons of force.

I hope you did read this...

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok you are misunderstanding me then......he does not hit with a hundred tons of force but he can use skill to replicate it...for example pressure points and skill.....do you get it? For example if the Hulk where fighting Namor he would use brute force to knock him out, Cap would go for pressure points and weak points.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well for starters im trying to get scans of Cap stunning Namor underwater....what im saying is Hercules would use brute force to knock out Namor. Cap would use pressure points or weak points.

Ok here it is.


http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2299/captainamerica36514od1.jpg

Digi is SO much better then what he was.


I remeber he used to sleep in Plasticman PJ's and try to stretch.



He was so cute,oh where does the time go.....

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Digi is SO much better then what he was.


I remeber he used to sleep in Plasticman PJ's and try to stretch.



He was so cute,oh where does the time go.....

Originally posted by "V"
How 'bout we rename this thread:

"Official Capt It Up Cock-Stroke Thread"

I like it.
was never once ment to be that way. I neevr even thought about my self when I made this thread.

I was thinking more grimm 22 and wonderman type people.





to tell you the truth im really no better then I was

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
What the hell... this whole thread is Capt it up fishing for compliments!
man does every psot you make towards me ahve to be negative? Honestly I undertsand you dislike me, but your just getting annoying latly. Also your wrong this thread has nothing to do with me. Most people have no idea who 8888 even was. It far from that and oh by the way you never new me was 8888 so don't even talk

rick and metal max your both wrong. I respond to a lot of threads however most other character I like are not well known so they tend to dispeare after a few psots.

I personlly enjoy scot he improved and made some good respect theads.


I think carv is improving as well

Originally posted by capt it up
I think carv is improving as well Originally posted by capt it up
was never once ment to be that way. I neevr even thought about my self when I made this thread.

I was thinking more grimm 22 and wonderman type people.





to tell you the truth im really no better then I was I've never seen Grimm as a fanboy...
Saying Thing beating Wolverine isn't being a fanboy... hell I think Thing wins...

Originally posted by bigbran
I've never seen Grimm as a fanboy...
Saying Thing beating Wolverine isn't being a fanboy... hell I think Thing wins...

Shut up Fanboy...

Originally posted by bigbran
I've never seen Grimm as a fanboy...
Saying Thing beating Wolverine isn't being a fanboy... hell I think Thing wins...
thats not why. he said some dumb things about thign when he first got here.





also thing would lose to wolverine im still not sure how it debatable....but any ways

Originally posted by capt it up
thats not why. he said some dumb things about thign when he first got here.





also thing would lose to wolverine im still not sure how it debatable....but any ways Well I wasn't here...

Also, Thing loses to Wolverine because he's faster right?
Tis a funny thing, how he never uses all his vaunted speed on brawlers like Hulk and Thing, the way he is supposed to on the forums... as opposed to comics...
Anyway... it's all about who gets the first shot... could be 5/10 split, could be a 6/10 to either way... saying it's not debatable, is just... well... stupid.

Originally posted by capt it up
thats not why. he said some dumb things about thign when he first got here.





also thing would lose to wolverine im still not sure how it debatable....but any ways
http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/?action=view&current=.my_first_widget.pbw

Originally posted by Badabing
http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/?action=view&current=.my_first_widget.pbw

Originally posted by bigbran
Well I wasn't here...

Also, Thing loses to Wolverine because he's faster right?
Tis a funny thing, how he never uses all his vaunted speed on brawlers like Hulk and Thing, the way he is supposed to on the forums... as opposed to comics...
Anyway... it's all about who gets the first shot... could be 5/10 split, could be a 6/10 to either way... saying it's not debatable, is just... well... stupid.

he sues his speed vs brawlers all the time like when he stabbed grey hulk through the heart......





wolverine far faster then thing in combat........


if it was about who get the first shot then how could you even assume thing would win? Wolverines faster and far superior fighter.



also thing would have to hit wolevrine far more then once.


no it not really stupid since I really can't see how thing wins any sort of majority.

he slow

less agile

slower reflexes

less fighting skill

can take less stabbs then wolverine can take punches

Originally posted by Badabing
http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/?action=view&current=.my_first_widget.pbw

to bad that an alternate reality.............and I know you new that badabing you bastered

Originally posted by Badabing
http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/?action=view&current=.my_first_widget.pbw

Thats dem Magik's in action.

Originally posted by capt it up
he sues his speed vs brawlers all the time like when he stabbed grey hulk through the heart......





wolverine far faster then thing in combat........


if it was about who get the first shot then how could you even assume thing would win? Wolverines faster and far superior fighter.



also thing would have to hit wolevrine far more then once.


no it not really stupid since I really can't see how thing wins any sort of majority.

he slow

less agile

slower reflexes

less fighting skill

can take less stabbs then wolverine can take punches What, is that once?

So?

Because, you really think Thing is only going to hit him once?

And, this all rotates back to Wolverine not using all his speed against people like Thing, in comics, like you say he will...
Thing has fought against the odds, in almost every fight he has ever been in...

It is stupid.

Originally posted by capt it up
to bad that an alternate reality.............and I know you new that badabing you bastered Me...a bastard?! schmoll


Since when is the 616 and alternate reality?

Originally posted by bigbran
What, is that once?

So?

Because, you really think Thing is only going to hit him once?

And, this all rotates back to Wolverine not using all his speed against people like Thing, in comics, like you say he will...
Thing has fought against the odds, in almost every fight he has ever been in...

It is stupid.
again your just wrong. It a forum match. It the same reason why thanos does not simply destroy every one he meets when battling. It to make the fight look better and again Logan does use his speed vs people like thing. If logan not holding back thing is screwed. Logan can take thing out with a singel attack however thing can not say the same.


wow thing fights against the odds whoopy that does not mean he will win. Wolverien fights against the odds as well.


your reasoning is so funny.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I hope you did read this...

at Alfheim trying to justify his statement.

Originally posted by batdude123
at Alfheim trying to justify his statement.
I know he sucha rediculous guy........I sware capt has the worst fanboys


alf and king kam take the cake.

Originally posted by capt it up
again your just wrong. It a forum match. It the same reason why thanos does not simply destroy every one he meets when battling. It to make the fight look better and again Logan does use his speed vs people like thing. If logan not holding back thing is screwed. Logan can take thing out with a singel attack however thing can not say the same.


wow thing fights against the odds whoopy that does not mean he will win. Wolverien fights against the odds as well.


your reasoning is so funny. But... Thanos basically does do this...

Wait... when exactly does Logan ever really use his speed against really anyone? What leads me to believe that Logan will speedblitz the shit out of Thing?
No really?
Sure he's fast... but really? The same reason Surfer doesn't speedblitz on this forum...

Except Thing fights against the odds in almost every fight... Hulk is basically better than Thing at everything...
Galactus?
Dragon Man.
Hell, according to your logic, even Wolverine...

I know, hilarious.

Originally posted by bigbran
But... Thanos basically does do this...

Wait... when exactly does Logan ever really use his speed against really anyone? What leads me to believe that Logan will speedblitz the shit out of Thing?
No really?
Sure he's fast... but really? The same reason Surfer doesn't speedblitz on this forum...

Except Thing fights against the odds in almost every fight... Hulk is basically better than Thing at everything...
Galactus?
Dragon Man.
Hell, according to your logic, even Wolverine...

I know, hilarious.

lets see vs spiderman, sabertooth, wendigo, hulk lady detahstrike, sun spot , shatter star and so on.

Logna fights superhumans. Thing will not be landing any were the amount of hits he will be taking.


ya and thing loses to hulk all the time

galactus? did you really just use that as an example?



wolverine has fought galactus and wolverine has fought hulk more times then thing.
Hell most of wolverines villains are him, but superior in stats. so really thing does not fight against the oods any more then wolverine.


also your logic that becuase thing fights against the odds that means he beats wolverine is just rediculous.

Originally posted by capt it up
lets see vs spiderman, sabertooth, wendigo, hulk lady detahstrike, sun spot , shatter star and so on.

Logna fights superhumans. Thing will not be landing any were the amount of hits he will be taking.


ya and thing loses to hulk all the time

galactus? did you really just use that as an example?



wolverine has fought galactus and wolverine has fought hulk more times then thing.
Hell most of wolverines villains are him, but superior in stats. so really thing does not fight against the oods any more then wolverine. Ann-hi-lus? Sil-ver Sur-fer? Thor?

And you know this... how? Like I said... whoever gets the shot has the best chance at winning.

Not all the time, he stands up to him when... wait, did you not get my example?
Hulk is way stronger than him... way more durible than him, faster, in the physical terms, Hulk is better than him in every way, and yet, Thing still stands up to him...

Ya, actually I did use Galactus as an example...

Wait... when did Wolverine fight Galactus? You're going to have to point me to a scan, or an issue number... unless youa re talking about bone claws, because they never fought...

Plus, Thing doesn't really have any villains to himself...


Originally posted by capt it up
also your logic that becuase thing fights against the odds that means he beats wolverine is just rediculous. What the f*ck are you talking about?
I never said that's why he would win...

Originally posted by bigbran
Ann-hi-lus? Sil-ver Sur-fer? Thor?
Which thing has no right in even touching.

Originally posted by bigbran
And you know this... how? Like I said... whoever gets the shot has the best chance at winning.
Because wolverine the superior fighter and is far faster in combat speed with feats that thing could not hope to match

Originally posted by bigbran
Not all the time, he stands up to him when... wait, did you not get my example?
Hulk is way stronger than him... way more durible than him, faster, in the physical terms, Hulk is better than him in every way, and yet, Thing still stands up to him...
Actually thing only beta hulk once and it was the weakest form of hulk vs the strongest form of thing.

Hulk combat speed is about equal with things however thing the far superior fighter.

Wolverine fights hulk all the time also and does better then thing does. Wolverien fights sabertooth who superior to him and yet wolverine has almost a 50/50 draw.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, actually I did use Galactus as an example...
Ya because thing can reall fight glalactus ya that makes sense lol.

Originally posted by bigbran
Wait... when did Wolverine fight Galactus? You're going to have to point me to a scan, or an issue number... unless youa re talking about bone claws, because they never fought...
Bone claws wolverine and secret war.



Originally posted by bigbran
What the f*ck are you talking about?
I never said that's why he would win...
That seems to be your whole argument. You really have nothing. If you want to keep argueing this bump the thing vs wolverine thread. This is not the thread to do it in.

if I recall correctly, you use to be a real fanboy. Back in those days everyone hated Wolverine. Here's to comin a long way Capt, if I recalled correctly

Originally posted by capt it up
Which thing has no right in even touching. And yet, he does...


Originally posted by capt it up
Because wolverine the superior fighter and is far faster in combat speed with feats that thing could not hope to match I know... but like I said, can you supply me with anything to show that Wolverine will blitz the shit out of him?


Originally posted by capt it up
Actually thing only beta hulk once and it was the weakest form of hulk vs the strongest form of thing. I said... "stand up to".

Originally posted by capt it up
Hulk combat speed is about equal with things however thing the far superior fighter.

Wolverine fights hulk all the time also and does better then thing does. Wolverien fights sabertooth who superior to him and yet wolverine has almost a 50/50 draw. Except Thing is a physical fighter, and Hulk is many a times stronger than Thing...
The difference between Hulk and Thing (strength and shit), is far different than Sabertooth and Wolverine.


Originally posted by capt it up
Ya because thing can reall fight glalactus ya that makes sense lol. Weak Galactus.


Originally posted by capt it up
Bone claws wolverine and secret war.
When exactly did bone claws fight him?
Was that when Wolverine broke his claws on Galactus's machine?

And, was this actually a fight in Secret Wars?
Like Wolverine knocking Galactus over?



Originally posted by capt it up
That seems to be your whole argument. You really have nothing. If you want to keep argueing this bump the thing vs wolverine thread. This is not the thread to do it in. I said, whoever gets the first shot... plus, Thing can and has KOed him before.
Also, wasn't the example of Wolverine cutting Thing's face, because Thing was only trying to hold him down?

F*ck that, I'm not looking for a thread, just so I can have some pointless argument, flowing pages and pages.

I've come along way...when I first came here I used to think that Wolverine would beat Superman

I've come a long way...when I first came here, I used to think that Apocalypse would beat Jubilee

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I've come along way...when I first came here I used to think that Wolverine would beat Superman



I used to think Billy Batson was the Marvel version of Clark Kent and that DS was Superman's father.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I've come a long way...when I first came here, I used to think that Apocalypse would beat Jubilee

Well I haven't reached ur level of "come alongity" because I still think that Apoc would beat her....I guess I still have alot to learn

I used to think that Thanos with the IG would lose to the Hulk Killer Humanoid... also Galactus.
I also thought Black Adam was some sort of evil version of Adam Warlock.

Originally posted by bigbran
I used to think that Thanos with the IG would lose to the Hulk Killer Humanoid... also Galactus.
I also thought Black Adam was some sort of evil version of Adam Warlock.

shocklaugh

That's ok. I thought the Red Skull was a Superman villain, and that Mr. Sinister was a vampire. srug

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
That's ok. I thought the Red Skull was a Superman villain, and that Mr. Sinister was a vampire. srug



Originally posted by bigbran
I used to think that Thanos with the IG would lose to the Hulk Killer Humanoid... also Galactus.
I also thought Black Adam was some sort of evil version of Adam Warlock.

You also used to argue that Apocalypse could take the majority against Thanos.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
You also used to argue that Apocalypse could take the majority against Thanos. That's OK... you still do that...

Originally posted by bigbran
That's OK... you still do that...

Why you fargin icehole!

I don't do that...

Apoc would get mangled by Thanos...

Originally posted by capt it up
man does every psot you make towards me ahve to be negative? Honestly I undertsand you dislike me, but your just getting annoying latly. Also your wrong this thread has nothing to do with me. Most people have no idea who 8888 even was. It far from that and oh by the way you never new me was 8888 so don't even talk bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna

You can pretend and bat your eyelashes at us saying you didn't even think about yourself when making this thread all you want but we all know the truth. By the way, every post I make toward you is negative? Funny, I don't think it was in the Spiderman Vs. Superman thread... but again... you are full of:

http://www.southernangel.com/food/bologna.jpg

By the way... I read everything you wrote as Wolverine8888 so I think I will continue to talk.

Cap is full of pickles!!!!





that explains alot.....

I know, weird, huh?

Originally posted by capt it up
was never once ment to be that way. I neevr even thought about my self when I made this thread.

I was thinking more grimm 22 and wonderman type people.





to tell you the truth im really no better then I was

Ya know if you're going to try to insult me you could at least type my name correctly

Grimm22, no space

*Goes back and looks at Wolverine888 posts; goes and looks at Wolvertooth posts*

Ah ha! Capt is actually wolvertooth! Or rather, Wolvertooth is Capt's evil twin...or something...

yeah

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna bologna

You can pretend and bat your eyelashes at us saying you didn't even think about yourself when making this thread all you want but we all know the truth. By the way, every post I make toward you is negative? Funny, I don't think it was in the Spiderman Vs. Superman thread... but again... you are full of:

http://www.southernangel.com/food/bologna.jpg

By the way... I read everything you wrote as Wolverine8888 so I think I will continue to talk.
really if you read every thing I have written as wolverine8888 then you would know I am not infact wolverine8888 at all. It a common miisconception. Wolverine8888 was my younger brothers account.

Again you are incorretc to assume I was making this thread about my self since I am not even wolverine8888. Also I my self am the first person to admitt I have really not imroved at all since my earlier days on this forum.

but thanks for playing. You just love to be an ass whole to me don't you?

Originally posted by capt it up
really if you read every thing I have written as wolverine8888 then you would know I am not infact wolverine8888 at all. It a common miisconception. Wolverine8888 was my younger brothers account.

Again you are incorretc to assume I was making this thread about my self since I am not even wolverine8888. Also I my self am the first person to admitt I have really not imroved at all since my earlier days on this forum.

but thanks for playing. You just love to be an ass whole to me don't you? I don't get it...

Originally posted by capt it up
really if you read every thing I have written as wolverine8888 then you would know I am not infact wolverine8888 at all. It a common miisconception. Wolverine8888 was my younger brothers account.

Again you are incorretc to assume I was making this thread about my self since I am not even wolverine8888. Also I my self am the first person to admitt I have really not imroved at all since my earlier days on this forum.

but thanks for playing. You just love to be an ass whole to me don't you?


Not really, since you also openly admitted that it WAS you as wolvertooth except that your brother sometimes came onto your account to try and internet rape a girl that posts on here. I believe the wolverine vs. Superman fight was you from the beginning. I'm never done. And you know just as well as I that I relish in being an ass-hole... but I share it freely to everyone, I would NEVER devote it all to the likes of you

Someone should make an "owned" thread, where posters post the ownage they've witnessed, such as the above.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
Not really, since you also openly admitted that it WAS you as wolvertooth except that your brother sometimes came onto your account to try and internet rape a girl that posts on here.
Ive neevr once said I was wolvertooth.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
I believe the wolverine vs. Superman fight was you from the beginning. I'm never done. And you know just as well as I that I relish in being an ass-hole... but I share it freely to everyone, I would NEVER devote it all to the likes of you
No you would even if you did not notice it.........

wolverine superman fight was not me. I made the account for my brother since he did not know how to create one. I went on it for a day to see how it was did not like it and left. My brother went on it for months then quit and I desided to take over his account after a few months of no one using it then I got banned due to allowing a friend of mine from kmc use my account. Think it may have been whirly though maybe it was russian something

Thing can take a few wins if not the majority against wolverine. He could choke the life out of him, or he could drown him.

Originally posted by capt it up
Ive neevr once said I was wolvertooth.


No you would even if you did not notice it.........

wolverine superman fight was not me. I made the account for my brother since he did not know how to create on. I went on it for a day to see how it was did not like it and left. My brother went on it for months then quit and I desided to take over his account after a few months of no one using it then I got banned due to allowing a firne dof mine from kmc use my account.

How old are you?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
How old are you?
turning 20........in june

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thing can take a few wins if not the majority against wolverine. He could choke the life out of him, or he could drown him.
could thing take some wins? yes the majority hell no


drowning kinda hard in an forum match were there no water.......

Originally posted by capt it up
could thing take some wins? yes the majority hell no


drowning kinda hard in an forum match were there no water.......

Why wouldn't their be water? He could simply with strain Wolverine with one arm, drag him to a lake/river/etc, and drown him. Or he could simply choke the life out of him, which is possibly the easiest victory.

Originally posted by capt it up
turning 20........in june

Then could you do me a favor and learn to use proper grammar. I mean I'm not perfect, but some of your post are ridiculous.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Why wouldn't their be water? He could simply with strain Wolverine with one arm, drag him to a lake/river/etc, and drown him. Or he could simply choke the life out of him, which is possibly the easiest victory.
lets see it an areana setting don't you ever read the forum rules?


also the odds of thing ever getting wolverine like that are extremely low. Not to mention the whole logna can cut of his arm or stabb it.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Then could you do me a favor and learn to use proper grammar. I mean I'm not perfect, but some of your post are ridiculous.

I don't care enough to use it...........I was an english major too.........

Originally posted by capt it up
lets see it an areana setting don't you ever read the forum rules?


also the odds of thing ever getting wolverine like that are extremely low. Not to mention the whole logna can cut of his arm or stabb it.

The most common arena setting is earth, and as you know earth is composed of 75% water. Thing could find a body of water.

How so? All thing would have to do is patiently wait for Wolverine to rush in and strike, something Wolverine is known to do, and then capitalize by grabbing him. He then proceeds to choke him out ftw.

Originally posted by capt it up
I don't care enough to use it...........I was an english major too.........

Um yeaaaaah.dontgetit

Originally posted by Soujaboy
The most common arena setting is earth, and as you know earth is composed of 75% water. Thing could find a body of water.

read the rules it commonly known an areana setting means in an areana no leaving it.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
How so? All thing would have to do is patiently wait for Wolverine to rush in and strike, something Wolverine is known to do, and then capitalize by grabbing him. He then proceeds to choke him out ftw.
wolverine rushes in and stabbs thing and thing is ****ed.......so I am not seeing how this argument helps you......even if thign survives the attack he be weaked and crabbing wolverine would still be an unlikly thing to happens when logans far faster and more skilled. Even if thing catches wolverine all Logan would have to do is stabb thing right in the arm.

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Um yeaaaaah.dontgetit
yup.......and I get decent grades I have 2.95. Kinda sucks I really wanted the 3.0

Originally posted by capt it up
read the rules it commonly known an areana setting means in an areana no leaving it.


wolverine rushes in and stabbs thing and thing is ****ed.......so I am not seeing how this argument helps you......even if thign survives the attack he be weaked and crabbing wolverine would still be an unlikly thing to happens when logans far faster and more skilled. Even if thing catches wolverine all Logan would have to do is stabb thing right in the arm. that so dum you said earlier to me spiderman would not win becuze theres no such thing as a ring out your being such a hippocrit!

Originally posted by Varnage
that so dum you said earlier to me spiderman would not win becuze theres no such thing as a ring out your being such a hippocrit!
yes becuase there is no such thing as a ring out..........so how is that being a hippocrtit?

Originally posted by capt it up
yup.......and I get decent grades I have 2.95. Kinda sucks I really wanted the 3.0

Varnage just put an argument up in the Spider Man vs Wolverine thread that I doubt you'll be able to counter.

Originally posted by capt it up
yes becuase there is no such thing as a ring out..........so how is that being a hippocrtit? its hippocrit becaus you said that there no ring out but here you say they cant leave the arena... what is the differance?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
Varnage just put an argument up in the Spider Man vs Wolverine thread that I doubt you'll be able to counter.
seen it and I already know I can. He simply stole scanns from the spiderman respect thread that I have seen hundred of times. once I get to my lab top this won't really be a problem to debate what so ever. Hell haft his arguement is useless since it was never up for debate.


the actaully debating match ended all ready like two days ago lol. im surpized the thread was not shut.

Originally posted by Varnage
its hippocrit becaus you said that there no ring out but here you say they cant leave the arena... what is the differance?

ther eno ring out sicne there no way to leave the areana it just some huge field with nothing beyond it.


there no way to leave the areana which means there are no ring out 's. How is that being a hyppoctrit?

Originally posted by capt it up
seen it and I alreayd no I can. He simply stole scanns form the spidemran respect thread that I have seen hundred of times. once I get to my lab top this won't really be a problem to debate what so ever. Hell haft his arguement is useless since it was enevr up for debate.


the actaully debating match ended all ready like two days ago lol. im surpized the thread was not shut.

How did it end i wasn not even done arguing just because i leave my computer doesnt mean its over.

Originally posted by Varnage
How did it end i wasn not even done arguing just because i leave my computer doesnt mean its over.
people voted and not a single voted was for you ecpt one. The voting ended. it was only ment as a one day thing. if you wish we can go for round too.


either way I am going to respond to your post tommarrow.

Originally posted by batdude123
at Alfheim trying to justify his statement.

Ok you're being a idiot...whats wrong with this statemant. Serioulsy im confused...whats the problem?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well for starters im trying to get scans of Cap stunning Namor underwater....what im saying is Hercules would use brute force to knock out Namor. Cap would use pressure points or weak points.

Ok here it is.


http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/2299/captainamerica36514od1.jpg





Originally posted by capt it up
I know he sucha rediculous guy........I sware capt has the worst fanboys


alf and king kam take the cake.

Why am I fanboy cant you ****ing read what I wrote above. You might have misunderstood what I said before but the above statemant explains clearly what im trying to say.

I want to add somethings to the Thing vs Wolverine debate.

1. Thing has huge arms, he could easily take some of the swipes to his hands without much damage. (I doubt Wolverine could really slice his hands off) And if he stabs into Thing's hands, he might get stuck and then he'll be rather easy pickings

I don't think Wolverine will be able to blitz Thing, as Thing is rather smart brawler. He wont be attacking, untill Wolverine opens up. If CIS is on, I'm sure Wolverine will be the one doing most of the attacks, trying to advance on Thing. It's easier to counter attacks than it is to avoid attacks - At least for Thing with his huge arms and bigger range.

Btw, when was the last time Wolverine took a thunderclap in a fight?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok you're being a idiot...whats wrong with this statemant. Serioulsy im confused...whats the problem?

I'M the idiot? My little incompetent friend, I'm not the one who's saying that Captain America strikes with the same force as a class 100 tonner.

Batman has knocked out Solomon Grundy in 3 strikes, however I don't go around saying "he hits wit teh forse of a clas one hundrez tunner!!!111@@"

Originally posted by Jyppe
I want to add somethings to the Thing vs Wolverine debate.

1. Thing has huge arms, he could easily take some of the swipes to his hands without much damage. (I doubt Wolverine could really slice his hands off) And if he stabs into Thing's hands, he might get stuck and then he'll be rather easy pickings

I don't think Wolverine will be able to blitz Thing, as Thing is rather smart brawler. He wont be attacking, untill Wolverine opens up. If CIS is on, I'm sure Wolverine will be the one doing most of the attacks, trying to advance on Thing. It's easier to counter attacks than it is to avoid attacks - At least for Thing with his huge arms and bigger range.

Btw, when was the last time Wolverine took a thunderclap in a fight?


Wolveriens claws have gone right through things harder then thing. Logan ahs stabbed right through thing before. Logan almost took have of things face of with a simply slash.......so ya you were saying?

Thing skills are nothing compared to wolverine so ya im not seeing you point. Thing not taking advantage of an opening when he fighting some one who far superior in speed and skill. also If hting allows Logan any were vital this fight is over.


Wolverine took a thunder clap in 6 hours by hulk and was perfectly fine and even made a joke about it.........

Originally posted by capt it up
Wolveriens claws have gone right through things harder then thing. Logan ahs stabbed right through thing before. Logan almost took have of things face of with a simply slash.......so ya you were saying?

Thing skills are nothing compared to wolverine so ya im not seeing you point. Thing not taking advantage of an opening when he fighting some one who far superior in speed and skill. also If hting allows Logan any were vital this fight is over.


Wolverine took a thunder clap in 6 hours by hulk and was perfectly fine and even made a joke about it......... http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/?action=view&current=.my_first_widget.pbw

http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/?action=view&current=1174774290.pbw

Originally posted by Badabing
http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/?action=view&current=.my_first_widget.pbw

http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/?action=view&current=1174774290.pbw
lol

Originally posted by capt it up
lol

capt, is english your first language?

He can use grammar very well when he wishes.

-FO!!

Originally posted by Disappear
capt, is english your first language?

He types quickly.

Originally posted by Disappear
capt, is english your first language?


yes........

and

symmetric and flame on are correct

He's also slightly dyslexic.

However, when the moment strikes him, he can type appropriately.

Originally posted by Soljer
He's also slightly dyslexic.

However, when the moment strikes him, he can type appropriately.

He majored in English.

James has come a long way. He's not the "angry fanboy/possible mass murderer" type person he used to be. He's now actually very likable.

i didn't mean any offense, i've just never met an english major who makes the spelling mistakes you do. grammar mistakes are easily made and some spelling mistakes can come from typing too fast, but you've just butchered some relatively easy words. figured i'd ask.

i have to strive to type in proper english and avoid aussie slurs.





Never use "whore" in a casual aussie style on this forum.

Capt it up is by far the most impressive transformation I've seen.

Heck...I like the guy so I'm probably biased, but you've got to admit he knows his stuff.

Originally posted by capt it up
Wolveriens claws have gone right through things harder then thing. Logan ahs stabbed right through thing before. Logan almost took have of things face of with a simply slash.......so ya you were saying?

Thing skills are nothing compared to wolverine so ya im not seeing you point. Thing not taking advantage of an opening when he fighting some one who far superior in speed and skill. also If hting allows Logan any were vital this fight is over.


Wolverine took a thunder clap in 6 hours by hulk and was perfectly fine and even made a joke about it.........

Harder things than Than thing, might want to point out issue numbers or short descriptions?

Thing wasn't fighting smart in the Enemy state, he wasn't even trying to block Wolverine's attack.

Thing's stats have increased quite a bit since he lost his natural beauty by Wolverine. I don't think Wolverine could pierce his bones easily. I don't really think H2h fighting skills do matter that much in this fight, experience, agility, speed, tactics, reflexes & agility do. & I'm not entirely sure Wolverine is that much faster than Thing. Thing had a peak human speed? I'm not entirely sure, but maybe I should keep in mind that i'm debating with someone who thinks Wolverine is fast as Spider-man.

6 hours arc was the one with the woman, drug dealers, a kid bit by a snake? I don't think it happened in that one. IMO it was in the one where Wolverine's talking with the dead girl on the arctic. And, that wasn't a fighting situation. Hulk wasn't trying to hit him with the thunderclap.

I'd say many had stupid posts when they began and got better, we learned to be more reasonable the loner we stayed here. We saw other sides to the arguments and we learned more about other characters.

Capt has moved up a few points, but there's still some ways to go, but it's definitely an improvement from being the most rabid fanboy of the forum at one time. Big improvement.