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Wondering which president the vote riggers will "choose" in 2008? Trying to sort through the poseurs and players of the New World Order? Stumped to see whether your man or woman measures up to the CFR stamp of approval?

No matter. Whoever wins in 2008 will either serve his (or her) new masters, or suffer the same fate as that idealistic loose cannon, JFK, shot for disobeying orders.

Whether Clinton or McCain is ordained or, whether equally shifty Edwards, Obama, Giuliani, Romney, Condi or anyone else "wins" in 2008, the recipient had better play by the rules or suffer the same unfortunate fate.

Who makes the rules?

Certainly not the millions of concerned US citizens seeking a good and decent man or woman to be the nominal head of the government. Certainly not a few toothless lobbies like AARP. Rather special interest groups--some of them loyal to foreign governments--like AIPAC and AEI and CFR and the corporate owners of those electronic voting machines, wield far more decision-making power to pick the next prez than you or I ever will.

Following a preordained script, the "free press" pimps for the handful of candidates allowed media exposure. Sort of like picking that Heisman Trophy winner. That trophy is annually presented to the "best" college football player. A handful of candidates are presented, about five to avoid confusion, and from these lucky few, a personable performer is chosen. Usually one destined to **** up in the big game.

And in the ensuing four years, eight years if the pre-selected president performs according to script, the New World Order will continue on its merry way, as it has for nearly a century. Rewarding those who follow orders, punishing those who follow their consciences.

Should that pre-selected president ever decide to act, suddenly and irrationally, in the interest of fairness or for the public good, woe be to he or she. A thousand different threats (or rewards) can be applied to any disloyal president allowed to delude himself into acting presidential. The whispered phrase, "lone gunman," need only be uttered from time to time, to insure a sense of proper restraint.

Why Prepare A President?

Because a well-prepared president is a known quantity. Because a well-initiated, pre-programmed president is less likely to **** up the global agenda. Thus, at this moment, numerous Council on Foreign Relations members are working weekends and nights to insure you receive the best president they can find. No loose cannons, reformers or idealists, thank you.

To their credit they've offered many variations of the same model. Clinton is McCain in drag and Giuliani is Clinton with chin whiskers and testicles but no balls.

As odious as the offerings appear to be, they all present some (minor) risk to the elites pulling the strings. Suppose, just for a moment, the "winner" actually decides to oppose his or her masters and act presidential. A network of planners would be required to draw up contingency plans. A patsy with three names would have to be found. A suitable location would have to be selected. Some top snipers would have to be contracted. Several top intelligence officials would have to be informed. A handful of big bankers would have to shift funds to offshore accounts. A smattering of media big shots would have to be presented with the official story beforehand. All these things take time and create headaches for the elites.

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Originally posted by Deano
Wondering which president the vote riggers will "choose" in 2008? Trying to sort through the poseurs and players of the New World Order? Stumped to see whether your man or woman measures up to the CFR stamp of approval?

No matter. Whoever wins in 2008 will either serve his (or her) new masters, or suffer the same fate as that idealistic loose cannon, JFK, shot for disobeying orders.

Whether Clinton or McCain is ordained or, whether equally shifty Edwards, Obama, Giuliani, Romney, Condi or anyone else "wins" in 2008, the recipient had better play by the rules or suffer the same unfortunate fate.

Who makes the rules?

Certainly not the millions of concerned US citizens seeking a good and decent man or woman to be the nominal head of the government. Certainly not a few toothless lobbies like AARP. Rather special interest groups--some of them loyal to foreign governments--like AIPAC and AEI and CFR and the corporate owners of those electronic voting machines, wield far more decision-making power to pick the next prez than you or I ever will.

Following a preordained script, the "free press" pimps for the handful of candidates allowed media exposure. Sort of like picking that Heisman Trophy winner. That trophy is annually presented to the "best" college football player. A handful of candidates are presented, about five to avoid confusion, and from these lucky few, a personable performer is chosen. Usually one destined to **** up in the big game.

And in the ensuing four years, eight years if the pre-selected president performs according to script, the New World Order will continue on its merry way, as it has for nearly a century. Rewarding those who follow orders, punishing those who follow their consciences.

Should that pre-selected president ever decide to act, suddenly and irrationally, in the interest of fairness or for the public good, woe be to he or she. A thousand different threats (or rewards) can be applied to any disloyal president allowed to delude himself into acting presidential. The whispered phrase, "lone gunman," need only be uttered from time to time, to insure a sense of proper restraint.

Why Prepare A President?

Because a well-prepared president is a known quantity. Because a well-initiated, pre-programmed president is less likely to **** up the global agenda. Thus, at this moment, numerous Council on Foreign Relations members are working weekends and nights to insure you receive the best president they can find. No loose cannons, reformers or idealists, thank you.

To their credit they've offered many variations of the same model. Clinton is McCain in drag and Giuliani is Clinton with chin whiskers and testicles but no balls.

As odious as the offerings appear to be, they all present some (minor) risk to the elites pulling the strings. Suppose, just for a moment, the "winner" actually decides to oppose his or her masters and act presidential. A network of planners would be required to draw up contingency plans. A patsy with three names would have to be found. A suitable location would have to be selected. Some top snipers would have to be contracted. Several top intelligence officials would have to be informed. A handful of big bankers would have to shift funds to offshore accounts. A smattering of media big shots would have to be presented with the official story beforehand. All these things take time and create headaches for the elites.

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Couldn't have said it better.

Subconsciously, most people don't give a damn whether a Republican or Democrat or Independent get into the white house.

Right now, subconsciously all fair minded people just want someone to tear down the current corrupt power structure that is slowly clamping it's jaws down on us day by day.

yeah great post Deano.I am convinced its either going to be Hillary or McCain who gets in.But yeah it will definetly be one of those corrupted officials you mentioned.

We WON'T have a next president! The Empire damnit! The Imperial Empire! They're coming for us! They are mad! Why? They destroyed WTC with their Death Star! But we mistaken that Iraq caused, they are mad cause they were not credited! They're gonna kill us! ALL HANDS ON BATTLE STATION!

As long as it's a peace seeking liberal, I'm okay.

The only way to truly purge a government of corruption is to well... purge it entirely, you have to overthrow it, that is something that a true patriot would do (American at the least) our country was founded by rebels who decided that Britain was an overbearing corrupt power, now we find ourselves in a country that claims to be democratic but is slowly become more and more socialist we have censored informations everything we do is watched the school levels are lowered for those who cannot keep up thus making it all more and more the same very soon we will be a socialist government and we won't fight back, as the song by Sonny Curtis of The Crickets says "I fought the law, and the law won" this is especially true in this day and age when the military and it's soldiers would only fight the enemies of it's country, when the true enemy may be the country itself, that who controls the masses controls the world.

Very well said Lance The Brave.Its a shame that our military and its soldiers are too ignorant to know that they need to stop fighting the enemies of its country and realise their TRUE enemy is the government of our country.Our forfathers here in the states faught for our country to be a government of the people,for the people,and by the people,instead it is a government that is controlled by big businesses and big greedy corporations controlled by selfish greedy people who like to get us into phony wars so they can make a profit for themselves.

they are trained and payed to kill, not to think, as well as a politician thinks twice before saying nothing

I remember you making this thread sometime back Deano and i was wondering,have you heard of Ron Paul? if not,I thought you might find it interesting that he is leading inthe straw mans polls and its not getting reported by the mainstream press and they are not giving him hardly any airtime at all whatsoever.the reason being? He is not corrupted like those other officials are you mentioned and cant be bought off.He is a senator.I cant remember from which state,but he is running for president and he is winning in the polls.The reason being is unlike those others mentioned,he is a candidate FOR THE PEOPLE.He wants to eliminate the IRS and also does not believe the official version of 9-11 either and says he would open up a reinvestagtion for it if elected.If he ever got elected,I would make sure and not have the secret service guard him.

im down for obama and scared of hilary and giuliani. I dont think hilary or obama has a chance. I think it's already been decided that giuliani is going to be the next president

On the surface Obama seems to be a good candidate and i thougght he would be good for the country as well but he recently became a member of the CFR and supports it so he would not be the correct choice.Really the only one who would be good for the country is Paul and they are going to make sure he is not elected.Like i said,they are not allowing him any airtime at all.Matter of fact,I saw a sign on the freeway saying-elect Ron Paul for president.Paul wants to do away with the IRS.THATS why they dont want him in power and why they are not allowing him any airtime because he cant be bought off like all these others.Like Bic said,presidents dot get elected anyways,they are selected.They will NEVER select Paul.

Ron Paul is the only sensible person to vote for.

He's a friggin doctor, which is a much more reputable proffession then a lawyer or some lesser form of politician that alot of these would-be presidents have.

He wants to abolish alot of sectors in the government, which would be great because for so many complaining they want less government involvement in thier lives, they sure do like that IRS, FBI, NASA, KKK, (oh wait, that's not a government agency... or is it?)


He wants to uphold the constitution and issue a human life ammendmant that would protect the unborn child. As the law was intended to protect life, not destroy it. (Not that a damn commie would understand)

He wants to end the war on drugs, the war on terror, and any other needless "war". War solves nothing.

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Originally posted by Captain King
Ron Paul is the only sensible person to vote for.

He's a friggin doctor, which is a much more reputable proffession then a lawyer or some lesser form of politician that alot of these would-be presidents have.

He wants to abolish alot of sectors in the government, which would be great because for so many complaining they want less government involvement in thier lives, they sure do like that IRS, FBI, NASA, KKK, (oh wait, that's not a government agency... or is it?)


He wants to uphold the constitution and issue a human life ammendmant that would protect the unborn child. As the law was intended to protect life, not destroy it. (Not that a damn commie would understand)

He wants to end the war on drugs, the war on terror, and any other needless "war". War solves nothing.

if Ron Paul doesnt get elected,were screwed.Its over with.the new world order will be in place.Paul is the only candidate who has never voted for tax increases and is the only one that wants to reopen the 9-11 investigation.so he is definetely for the people.But he wont get elected.they are avoiding him any airtime and giving him no press at all.I bet most everybody who has posted on here has never even heard of him.but yea,he is the only sensible person to vote for.

Originally posted by Captain King
Ron Paul is the only sensible person to vote for.

He's a friggin doctor, which is a much more reputable proffession then a lawyer or some lesser form of politician that alot of these would-be presidents have.

He wants to abolish alot of sectors in the government, which would be great because for so many complaining they want less government involvement in thier lives, they sure do like that IRS, FBI, NASA, KKK, (oh wait, that's not a government agency... or is it?)


He wants to uphold the constitution and issue a human life ammendmant that would protect the unborn child. As the law was intended to protect life, not destroy it. (Not that a damn commie would understand)

He wants to end the war on drugs, the war on terror, and any other needless "war". War solves nothing. But he's a conservative...

Originally posted by Mr Parker
if Ron Paul doesnt get elected,were screwed.Its over with.the new world order will be in place.Paul is the only candidate who has never voted for tax increases and is the only one that wants to reopen the 9-11 investigation.so he is definetely for the people.But he wont get elected.they are avoiding him any airtime and giving him no press at all.I bet most everybody who has posted on here has never even heard of him.but yea,he is the only sensible person to vote for.

Just like I said back then,Ron Paul obviosly isnt going to be the new president.That was a given.He is the peoples choice,thats why his campaine was sabotoged by the government and media.There was a huge Ron Paul campaine going on around the country.It was fixed from the beginning that he wouldnt get elected.Paul wasnt even allowed to participate in the New Hampshire primarys,which is illegal,thats vote fraud.He was on Jay Leno a few months back and Leno was saying to him-"I thought that was really unfair what they did to you not allowing you to participate in the in the new hampshire debates." and he responded saying-"Yeah it was unfair.Matter of fact were filing a lawsuit against the state of New Hampshire for doing that against us." well that did no good of course because they already dismantled the voting machines so Paul got screwed over there.

Dont think there is a conspiracy against ron paul by the government? Better think again.Thats clear proof right there the powers that be did not want him in office and made sure he didnt get in.He was also on Alex Jones show talking about how there was an assassination attempt against his life.The mainstream media also announced he had dropped out of the race way before he did cause they did not want to give the peoples candidate any airtime.this is NOT a free country here in the states.Anybody who belives that is delusional and in denial.

If anybody watched the nightly news last night,they would have seen the speech that Bush gave saying he wants to tax everybody including the super rich and he said right there on the news last night that he was going to schedule a meeting with his buddie Mccain at the white house to talk about it and that he ALSO was inviting Obama to come along as well.People here better wake up and smell the coffee that there is no difference between the two parties.that were screwed either way with either one of these candiates in office.Mccain of course is so corrupted he vetoed a plan by some congressmen to get his vietnam war buddies out of vietnam years back and of course is one of those bastards covering up the truth on 9/11.

Obama dont know near as much about.But he IS a member of the CFR.You cant get elected if your NOT a member of that evil group that plots world events.Their BOTH CFR members so were screwed wither way with either one of these jerks in office.

Paul of course is not a member of the CFR and doesnt want to have nothing to do with that corrupt organization,wants to end the war,doesnt believe in wars as the answer,is the only candidate who represents the people,and more importantly,the ONLY one that believes in the constitution of the united states-which is why I knew HE would never get elected.

so like this thread says,pick your poisen.CFR member MCcain or CFR member Obama.were royally screwed for the future either way with either one in office.

Originally posted by Captain King
Ron Paul is the only sensible person to vote for.

He's a friggin doctor, which is a much more reputable proffession then a lawyer or some lesser form of politician that alot of these would-be presidents have.

He wants to abolish alot of sectors in the government, which would be great because for so many complaining they want less government involvement in thier lives, they sure do like that IRS, FBI, NASA, KKK, (oh wait, that's not a government agency... or is it?)


He wants to uphold the constitution and issue a human life ammendmant that would protect the unborn child. As the law was intended to protect life, not destroy it. (Not that a damn commie would understand)

He wants to end the war on drugs, the war on terror, and any other needless "war". War solves nothing.


that says it all right there.couldnt have said it better myself.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Just like I said back then,Ron Paul obviosly isnt going to be the new president.That was a given.He is the peoples choice,thats why his campaine was sabotoged by the government and media.

Hate to do this to you, Parker, but... which people?

Originally posted by lord xyz
As long as it's a peace seeking liberal, I'm okay. Originally posted by lord xyz
But he's a conservative... Oh my god, why did I say that?



Anyway, Obama/McCain etc. won't get shot, because now the first impression would be conspiracy (unless you think it's not a well known fact).

If anything, they'll get impeached (kinda like with Clinton) or catastrophically lose their re-election.

understanding of democracy = fail

Originally posted by Kovacs86
Hate to do this to you, Parker, but... which people?

uh if you had ever bothered to look around on what was going on during the campaine wheh he was running you would of seen how he was leading in the straw polls and just about every other poll around the country for the peoples choice. Newsweek magazine in fact did an article on him showing a ron paul air ballon made.There were people all over the country with ron paul signs everywhere,a ron paul limo car,everything,everywhere you would look around the country you saw ron paul signs in yards and everything.
But like I said the government and media made sure he did not get elected sabotoging his campaine like they did.Since he is not a member of that evil organization the CFR like MCcain and Obaba are,they dont want him as president.as long as thier puppets CFR member MCcain or CFR member Obama is president,the elete will be happy.

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US republican primaries results

candidate: John McCain....states won...34
Mitt Romney.... 11
Mike Huckabee 8
Ron Paul 0


yep...clearly he should've won

Originally posted by Mr Parker
uh if you had ever bothered to look around on what was going on during the campaine wheh he was running you would of seen how he was leading in the straw polls and just about every other poll around the country for the peoples choice. Newsweek magazine in fact did an article on him showing a ron paul air ballon made.There were people all over the country with ron paul signs everywhere,a ron paul limo car,everything,everywhere you would look around the country you saw ron paul signs in yards and everything.
But like I said the government and media made sure he did not get elected sabotoging his campaine like they did.Since he is not a member of that evil organization the CFR like MCcain and Obaba are,they dont want him as president.as long as thier puppets CFR member MCcain or CFR member Obama is president,the elete will be happy.

Erm... yes, the evil organisation, the CFR... right...

What the hell are you smoking? Now, I appreciate you may see this as an immature reply, but, honestly... I'm concerned, Parker.

Actually no,for the very first time since you've been here,you've seem to finally leave that childish and immature Batman grudge from the Batman section from YEARS ago behind you and seem to FINALLY be over it and FINALLY making mature posts for a change which is why Im bothering with you and havent put you on ignore yet.Im actually proud of you that your being mature for once.At least YOU admitted back there on the clinton thread that you made an immature post,thats something lord xyz and jaden have NEVER done since they been here when it was pointed out to them in the past which is why i never bother with them.

unlike them,YOU seem to actually want to hear the other side of the coin so I will explain it to you in short,dont have much time right NOW so i really cant explain it in detail much right now at the moment,got to go somewhere after this post.if you are actually open minded though that WE dont elect these people and dont put them in office, that they are selected by the CFR group, for now,just do a google search on the council on foreign relations.type that in.they are a secret organization that plans world events.There have been pictures taken of clinton and bush going together and sitting together at these meetings in the past.I can also refer you to books about that organization that read and document it all sometime,right now I dont have time though.right now I can just tell you to do that google search on them.That will give you an idea about the CFR group.council on foreign relations.Paul wants nothing whatsoever to do with that group which is why he is the ONLY candidate who would be good for the country and why the world is screwed since were going to be stuck with either CFR member MCcain or CFR member Obama.Neither candidate believes in the constitution their only there to do serve whats the best interest in the CFR.got to go.

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Originally posted by jaden101
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Dude, people have said MUCH worse than that in the past... But I don't think they were ever warned or anything like that...

KharmaDog and Evil Dead in particular have said some pretty nasty things, but I don't think they were ever warned or reported...

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Dude, people have said MUCH worse than that in the past... But I don't think they were ever warned or anything like that...

KharmaDog and Evil Dead in particular have said some pretty nasty things, but I don't think they were ever warned or reported...

doesn't matter...it's still baiting and trolling and i'll keep reporting it as such

he clearly doesn't have the intellectual capacity to debate with me as he put me on ignore...yet despite having me on ignore continues to hurl insults and bait me into arguments...it's trolling...there's no two ways about it.

That has to be the funniest thing I ever read.

If the government was watching us, and you just gave away their whole plan and everything, would you not just kind of dissappear?

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Dude, people have said MUCH worse than that in the past... But I don't think they were ever warned or anything like that...

KharmaDog and Evil Dead in particular have said some pretty nasty things, but I don't think they were ever warned or reported...

exactly. yeah well said.I cant count how many times kharma dog has come on here and trolled and called people names just cause he didnt agree with them yet he never got no warning or anything for it.

anyways just as always,were not left with a choice to choose from in voting.As always, were forced to vote for the lesser evil of the two.Where your left with having the choice of being in two feet of dog doo or four feet of dog doo due to the choice of the candidates forced on us.Its just like in 92,I didnt know this at the time but Clinton and Bush who are both CFR members,were the two choices we had to choose from.Ross Perot would have been a far better choice.He also is not a member of the CFR and he was against NAFTA which Bush and Clinton both favored.NAFTA turned out to be a horrible thing that Clinton signed while in office and America is STILL paying for it.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Dude, people have said MUCH worse than that in the past... But I don't think they were ever warned or anything like that...

KharmaDog and Evil Dead in particular have said some pretty nasty things, but I don't think they were ever warned or reported...

you seem to not notice the difference. It's trolling when, unprovoked, you just start flaming and name calling.

Once a person says something derrogitory towards you, name calling........it is no longer trolling. While being immature to stoop to their level (which I admit I've done from time to time), nobody is going to get in trouble for replying negatively to a poster.

been here since what, mid '03 and have never been warned. I assume I never will be as most moderators acknowledge the difference. The only time a mod has ever even PMed me about my posting content was when Rex PMed me about a post in your Lincoln/Kennedy thread. He didn't even read the thread...he just got my reply as someone (I assume you) reported it.

the first post of the second page opened with "Whoa, now you're just being a jackass..". Once a person opens up a post with derrogitory comments, name calling..........anything I say back to you is pretty much ok and not considered trolling/flaming, even if it hurts someone's feelings and they deem in necissary to click the "report" button.

funny thing was on that, the post that was reported was reported because of this "I could care less about your Jackass comments.". You called me a jackass, I didn't stoop to your level and name call......simply said I could care less about your jackass comment but since Rex didn't read the thread to see that you actually had made a comment to me being a jackass, he thought that I was calling you and your comments a jackass.

but yeah..... please link me to any post I have made where I called someone a name BEFORE they did so to me. Hell, in the examle above I completely no-sold your name calling and wouldn't retaliate with immaturity.

Originally posted by jaden101
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Eh? what planet are you on

religion and politics always bring about heated discussion, especially on internet forums. What he wrote is harmless compared to other members scorching remarks.

So stop being silly and fight back.

Seeing as this Paul chap is out of the race now anyway surely the subject has gone further, which pair have the NWO chosen this time.

I reckon Obama will get the nod, especially after hearing that annoyingly thick but hot woman Palin talk.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Eh? what planet are you on

religion and politics always bring about heated discussion, especially on internet forums. What he wrote is harmless compared to other members scorching remarks.

So stop being silly and fight back.

Seeing as this Paul chap is out of the race now anyway surely the subject has gone further, which pair have the NWO chosen this time.

I reckon Obama will get the nod, especially after hearing that annoyingly thick but hot woman Palin talk.

Very accurate description of Palin...

I wonder if the "Hot" aspect will play a role in the voting.

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-ron-paul-crowd-supporters-mainstream-media.jpg

it wouldnt surprise me.

thats how the media works in many ways.

if you actually listen to ron paul, you begin to think why isnt he the front runner for the president. ..simple answer:

he would change things for the better. and that is not allowed.

http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/October%202008/wash_d.jpg

yeah thats definetely why he's not the front runner.

I don't know... Ron Paul seems ok, but there are a LOT of things I don't agree with:

He wants to take away all entitlements: That means no Social Security, no worker's compensation, etc. My dad can't work anymore because of a bad hip, and with my mom's paycheck only, we wouldn't last long... We rely on the worker's comp. to supplement our income to get by week-to-week... So that's something I'm DEAD SET against...

But I do fully support the nonintervention foreign policy... I mean, that's why a lot of countries hate us, because we meddle in their business... Plus, we'd be eliminating so much excess spending that doesn't help anyone in the US...

I wish I could run for president... I think I'd have the right balance...

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Eh? what planet are you on

religion and politics always bring about heated discussion, especially on internet forums. What he wrote is harmless compared to other members scorching remarks.

So stop being silly and fight back.

Seeing as this Paul chap is out of the race now anyway surely the subject has gone further, which pair have the NWO chosen this time.

I reckon Obama will get the nod, especially after hearing that annoyingly thick but hot woman Palin talk.

getting back to the topic of this thread got to say that I got to disagree there.Just you watch,McCain will get elected.The reason being is he is the more evil of the two and the most evil one ALWAYS gets elected.He is buddies with Bush so thats all the proof right there he is the most evil and corrupted of the two so we will be in FOUR feet of dog doo.Plus the elete will never put a black man in office,you can count on that.

Originally posted by jaden101
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/political-pictures-ron-paul-crowd-supporters-mainstream-media.jpg The reason Ron Paul lost wasn't because of his policies, it was because he didn't have a big corporation to support him, like everybody else. The corporations fund their campaign, and thus, the politicians make the policies the corporations want, that's why politicians are so corrupt. Ron Paul's money came from Ron Paul supporters, and I think that's it.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
getting back to the topic of this thread got to say that I got to disagree there.Just you watch,McCain will get elected.The reason being is he is the more evil of the two and the most evil one ALWAYS gets elected.He is buddies with Bush so thats all the proof right there he is the most evil and corrupted of the two so we will be in FOUR feet of dog doo.Plus the elete will never put a black man in office,you can count on that.

Obama is friends with the Clintons....i thought Bill Clinton was the most evil president in the history of the universe...



http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/index.php

have a read...i think you might be surprised

this list the amounts and types of donation to every canditate that dropped out or is still running in the current US presidential election