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Omega, perhaps the strongest being ever in comics, battles Classic Darkseid. Who do you think will win in a straight up physical battle?

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Omega, perhaps the strongest being ever in comics, battles Classic Darkseid. Who do you think will win in a straight up physical battle?

omega

Omega from DC, or Omega from Marvel?

Omega from DC was stronger than PC Validus,supposedly

If it's the DC one, 'seid beats his ass. The Marvel one was a clone of Galactus with supposedly double his power. I think Darkseid can take him. Mostly because that Omega was semi retarded.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
If it's the DC one, 'seid beats his ass. The Marvel one was a clone of Galactus with supposedly double his power. I think Darkseid can take him. Mostly because that Omega was semi retarded. Based on?
Him being retarded? Is that all?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Based on?
Him being retarded? Is that all?

Trickster for some odd reason believes DS can damn near defeat anybody. Ask him for some feats and witness what unfolds.

Anyways Omega, like Galactus would win 10/10

Originally posted by His Airness
Trickster for some odd reason believes DS can damn near defeat anybody. Ask him for some feats and witness what unfolds.

Anyways Omega, like Galactus would win 10/10 Trickster seemed to hop into a "DC wins no matter the thread" phase...
Company decided wins piss me off, especially, when he basically says it in all his posts...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Trickster seemed to hop into a "DC wins no matter the thread" phase...
Company decided wins piss me off, especially, when he basically says it in all his posts...

Yeah I've noticed lately for Trickster it's either Apocalypse, or a DC character. ermm

Originally posted by His Airness
Yeah I've noticed lately for Trickster it's either Apocalypse, or a DC character. ermm Or Apocalypse.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Based on?
Him being retarded? Is that all? Thats hilarious. A retard with the powers of a God still has "the powers of a God".

Marvel Omega never once demonstrated he was twice as powerful as Galactus, he was a failure....

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Thats hilarious. A retard with the powers of a God still has "the powers of a God".

And a God with the mind of a retard still has the mind of a retard.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Marvel Omega never once demonstrated he was twice as powerful as Galactus, he was a failure....

Sounds to me like you just described Darkseid. All this supposed power, but not once ever demonstrated on panel. What I mean by power is galaxy busting, universal power.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And a God with the mind of a retard still has the mind of a retard.

Hulk's a retard. Never stopped him from tearing through ranks of Marvel hero's for the last 40+ years. In some cases a "retard" with unimaginable power can be more destructive and dangerous than a genius with unimaginable power.

Also, Omega wasn't a retard either, he just had slowed reactions.

Originally posted by His Airness
Sounds to me like you just described Darkseid. All this supposed power, but not once ever demonstrated on panel. What I mean by power is galaxy busting, universal power.

You kidding? You must be, the sheer ignorance in that post was too much to be serious.

Originally posted by His Airness
Hulk's a retard. Never stopped him from tearing through ranks of Marvel hero's for the last 40+ years. In some cases a "retard" with unimaginable power can be more destructive and dangerous than a genius with unimaginable power.

There is a difference between hitting things and altering reality.

Originally posted by Board Walker
You kidding? You must be, the sheer ignorance in that post was too much to be serious.

No I'm not. Demonstrate to me with on panel proof, a single time in all his history that DS under his own power destroyed a galaxy. I've asked for such proof before, but it's not yet been given to me.

Originally posted by His Airness
No I'm not. Demonstrate to me with on panel proof, a single time in all his history that DS under his own power destroyed a galaxy. I've asked for such proof before, but it's not yet been given to me.

Such as when DS without effort moved a galaxy with his TP?

When DS mind controlled billions of PC daximites with no effort?

How about when his OE nearly killed the AM (who at the time was still at multiversal power level)?

DS effortlessly soloing Pantheons of skyfathers and then absorbing them?

These mean nothing?

How about the ALE?

He has so many feats.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Such as when DS without effort moved a galaxy with his TP?

When DS mind controlled billions of PC daximites with no effort?

How about when his OE nearly killed the AM (who at the time was still at multiversal power level)? I could probably answer these... but alas, don't care.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Such as when DS without effort moved a galaxy with his TP?

When DS mind controlled billions of PC daximites with no effort?

How about when his OE nearly killed the AM (who at the time was still at multiversal power level)?

DS effortlessly soloing Pantheons of skyfathers and then absorbing them?

These mean nothing?

How about the ALE?

He has so many feats.

All your efforts but none deal with the fact that DS has yet to destroy a galaxy under his own power.

I'm really not going to address your tp feats because they have little to do with the discussion at hand.

Am feat was done with Tech... IIRC that was not under his own power. Also DS wasn't the only character at that time fighting AM.

I've heard of this feat but I've yet to see it, however I do know why he needed the power. He didn't feel entirely comfortable attacking Asgard with his own power, so he felt the need to increase it. He did so so he could match or surpass Odin and Asgard in power.

In the context of the question I asked, yes, it means nothing.

The ALE has nothing to do with DS power, as isn't his own.

Your quite right with the exception of a feat that proves he can destroy a galaxy.

OMFG!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Trickster seemed to hop into a "DC wins no matter the thread" phase...
Company decided wins piss me off, especially, when he basically says it in all his posts...
Originally posted by His Airness
Yeah I've noticed lately for Trickster it's either Apocalypse, or a DC character. ermm
And i thought that i was the only one that notcied

Originally posted by Estacado
OMFG!!!!!!!!!

I've been waiting for ages to see proof that DS could or has destroyed a galaxy. Just recently I started heavily reading DC, the new age where DS doesn't quite seem as powerful, so I'm not familiar with all his more impressive feats.

darkseid easliy

why all the fighting in here over a silly thread, and then your all singling out a member and just bugging him over his posts. Get back on topic.

Originally posted by His Airness
I've been waiting for ages to see proof that DS could or has destroyed a galaxy. Just recently I started heavily reading DC, the new age where DS doesn't quite seem as powerful, so I'm not familiar with all his more impressive feats.
No he didn't destroy any.

so what if he hasnt he probably could. If he can move them he can probably destroy them, he's above odin for crying out loud, and odin can smash planets in his hand.

I've got scans of Darkseid destroying galaxies:

http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29022fc.jpg
http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29032ls.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29105ko.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29087ta.jpg

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I've got scans of Darkseid destroying galaxies:

http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29022fc.jpg
http://img494.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29032ls.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29105ko.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29087ta.jpg

That doesn't show Darkseid destroying galaxies.

Originally posted by Mider999
so what if he hasnt he probably could. If he can move them he can probably destroy them, he's above odin for crying out loud, and odin can smash planets in his hand.

Great debating skills.

better then yours

Way to kill the guys rant. I guess destroying the entire DC timeline is more impressive than a galaxy...

Originally posted by Mider999
better then yours

Greatest.....comeback..... ever.....

arent you the same guy who tried to make darkseid lose to a skyfather level being named surter even though darkseid has the power of five skyfathers.

Originally posted by His Airness
That doesn't show Darkseid destroying galaxies. "Time itself - and the universe which depends upon time for its shape and direction - is progessivley annihilated."

Originally posted by Magee
Way to kill the guys rant. I guess destroying the DC timeline is more impressive than a galaxy...

"Darkseid is torn violently out of the continuum

His sudden absence creates a catastrophic temporal shock-wave

Expanding, it rips both forward and backward through history"


Darkseid didn't do anything, the destruction was a side effect of his absence similar to the way Abraxas is the side effect of Galactus absence. This feat equals irrelevant to the context of the discussion.

odins feat creating a galaxy is relevent to this thread, HE'S ONE SKYFATHER, darkseid equals five, thus its just logical to say if he can make a galaxy then darkseid could to, if one can make a galaxy im sure they can destroy it thus im sure darkseid can to.

All you asked for was scans of DS destroying a galaxy, well he pretty much destroyed a universe there. No pleasing some people.

Originally posted by Magee
All you asked for was scans of DS destroying a galaxy, well he pretty much destroyed a universe there. No pleasing some people.

Since you ignored my above post.

"Darkseid is torn violently out of the continuum

His sudden absence creates a catastrophic temporal shock-wave

Expanding, it rips both forward and backward through history"


Darkseid didn't do anything, the destruction was a side effect of his absence similar to the way Abraxas is the side effect of Galactus absence. This feat equals irrelevant to the context of the discussion.

since you ignored MINE odin makes galaxies he can probably destroy them darkseid>odin thus he can do whatever he can but better.........thanks

There is no proof that Darkseid equals Odin, much less is his superior.

Why do people take that road since it has no foundation?

Originally posted by UniOmni
There is no proof that Darkseid equals Odin, much less is his superior.

Why do people take that road since it has no foundation?

Read this information from Wiki regarding Highfather:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highfather


Now look at this scan of Darkseid and Highfather on a stalemate.


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6231/darkseidandhighfathersttv9.jpg

Don't tell me that there is NO foundation. It's as clear as water.

Odin has never been as mishandled as Darkseid has.

His highs were more consistent, and frankly most dwarf his.

Not to mention Odin is clearly above top tiers, whereas Darkseid isn't out of reach to the pinnacle.

and what feats does odin have that drawf darkseid?

Not being beaten up by a top tier to begin with?

Three times no less?

Originally posted by UniOmni
Not being beaten up by a top tier to begin with?

Three times no less?

Thats not a feat. Thats called a cop out.

Channeling the OE via Alexander Luthor's eyes, Darkseid nearly kills the Anti-Monitor.

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bd3jpgorig4wf.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/1028/fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.th.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e25d5jpgorig5ts.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e25d2jpgorig0va.jpg

Proof, that when DS was removed from the timeline and the universe collapsed, it was because of his power.
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29079yu.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29087ta.jpg

The art sucks, but bear with me. The lords of Order and the lords of Chaos fear Darkseid.
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream4bo.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream19mc.jpg

Originally posted by Mider999
and what feats does odin have that drawf darkseid?

Fighting on every single plane of existence simultaneously.

Causing shock-waves throughout the multi-verse.

Destroying multiple galaxies in a single confrontation.

Destroying planets like ant hills, and reigniting suns as a side effect of battle.

Transversing the entirety of the universe in mere moments.

etc.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Channeling the OE via Alexander Luthor's eyes, Darkseid nearly kills the Anti-Monitor.

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bd3jpgorig4wf.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/img335/1028/fa8e2bccjpgorig8te.th.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e25d5jpgorig5ts.jpg

http://img335.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fa8e25d2jpgorig0va.jpg

Proof, that when DS was removed from the time line and the universe collapsed, it was because of his power.
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29079yu.jpg
http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=legion29087ta.jpg

The art sucks, but bear with me. The lords of Order and the lords of Chaos fear Darkseid.
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream4bo.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream19mc.jpg

The Anti Monitor feat was done through tech.


Stop misrepresenting scans. Those scans prove exactly what I stated earlier. If Darkseid is removed from the DC time line, the universe will collapse upon itself. This does not mean DS has the power to destroy the universe.


When did "fear" count as a feat?

DS has never been shown capable of destroying a Galaxy.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

The art sucks, but bear with me. The lords of Order and the lords of Chaos fear Darkseid.
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream4bo.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scream19mc.jpg I never really liked the whole (Chaos and Order fear Darksied ) thing. It made me lose respect fore DC's chaos and order rather than respect Darkseid. Marvels order and chaos were willing to jump into a confrontation with the IG without fear yet in DC they fear a skyfather.

Ummmm, maybe it's cause he's more powerful than a skyfather? The lords are each around Skyfather level.

Odin's galaxy busting feat was retconned.

Btw, where do you think all the power for the weapons, gizmos, war machines, and the firepits on Apokolips come from? That's Darkseid's power running all of his weapons. HE powers the firepits by himself.

Something that I missed...

Originally posted by His Airness


Anyways Omega, like Galactus would win 10/10

You do know that in The Hunger Galactus himself recognize the power of Darkseid, right?

Anywhoo...I never seen Highfather destroy a galaxy. He's practically identical to Odin. So does that mean Highfather is not as powerful as Odin because he hasn't destroy a galaxy?

As you saw in the scan Darkseid stalemates Highfather.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ummmm, maybe it's cause he's more powerful than a skyfather? The lords are each around Skyfather level.

Odin's galaxy busting feat was retconned.

Btw, where do you think all the power for the weapons, gizmos, war machines, and the firepits on Apokolips come from? That's Darkseid's power running all of his weapons. HE powers the firepits by himself. The concepts are above skyfather. Maybe not in DC. And frankly a Skyfather is way down the food chain to the IG. If the lords are scared of Darkseid then its really because their weak.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ummmm, maybe it's cause he's more powerful than a skyfather? The lords are each around Skyfather level.

Odin's galaxy busting feat was retconned.

Btw, where do you think all the power for the weapons, gizmos, war machines, and the firepits on Apokolips come from? That's Darkseid's power running all of his weapons. HE powers the firepits by himself.

Yet he has no feats that support your claims. Beyond Skyfather is Abstract, and DS feats pale in comparison to Odin's as is.

No it wasn't. Odin was destroying multiple galaxies, and fighting on every plain of existence in 96 my friend. There have been no retcons.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Something that I missed...



You do know that in The Hunger Galactus himself recognize the power of Darkseid, right?

Anywhoo...I never seen Highfather destroy a galaxy. He's practically identical to Odin. So does that mean Highfather is not as powerful as Odin because he hasn't destroy a galaxy?

As you saw in the scan Darkseid stalemates Highfather.

You also no in hunger Galactus was nearly killed by Thor? Him recognizing DS while hungry is of no significance.

Highfather may be identical to DC Odin in power, However Marvels Odin's feats are superior to them both.

Um yes. If character A can do something Character B is unable to do, than the only logical answer is that character A is more powerful.

Why do you say the Anti - Monitor feat was accomplished with technology? He used technology to see through Alex Luthor's eyes and to project his OE through them, but there's no evidence that he used technology to somehow increase the power of the OE itself.

I've never seen Odin actually hurt the LT. But I've seen Darkseid hurt the Spectre with his Omega Effect. Not to mention, I didn't see the marvel-verse start dying because Odin was removed from the timeline. A feat which you are desperately trying to downplay, despite the enormous power attributed to Darkseid by it. Or how about the fact that it took 5 skyfathers to smash the source wall, while it was weakened. A feat that Darkseid accomplished by himself. 5 skyfathers to equal Darkseid.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Something that I missed...



You do know that in The Hunger Galactus himself recognize the power of Darkseid, right?

Anywhoo...I never seen Highfather destroy a galaxy. He's practically identical to Odin. So does that mean Highfather is not as powerful as Odin because he hasn't destroy a galaxy?

As you saw in the scan Darkseid stalemates Highfather. Was that before or after Galactus one-shotted him?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Why do you say the Anti - Monitor feat was accomplished with technology? He used technology to see through Alex Luthor's eyes and to project his OE through them, but there's no evidence that he used technology to somehow increase the power of the OE itself. The blue OE?

Omega >>>>>>> Galactus >>>>>> Darkseid.

Gimme a friggin break.

Does the color really matter?

Back in the days when COIE was written and before it's been draws as red, yellow, white, gray, just about every color you can think of.

Originally posted by Soljer
Omega >>>>>>> Galactus >>>>>> Darkseid.

Gimme a friggin break.

Galactus>>>Omega. Omega is definitely not as powerful as Galactus, despite Thanos's claims to the contrary. I don't even think the guy was Skyfather. They beat him by blowing up his own ship after all.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I've never seen Odin actually hurt the LT. But I've seen Darkseid hurt the Spectre with his Omega Effect. Not to mention, I didn't see the marvel-verse start dying because Odin was removed from the timeline. A feat which you are desperately trying to downplay, despite the enormous power attributed to Darkseid by it. Or how about the fact that it took 5 skyfathers to smash the source wall, while it was weakened. A feat that Darkseid accomplished by himself. 5 skyfathers to equal Darkseid.

ABC Logic at it's best. Not that it matters, as Spectre's power lv's are more inconsistent than LT's.

Your right you didn't, however importance and role doesn't equate to overall power. Also, if you would actually read up on Odin you would realize that Odin's death was noticed on every plain of existence going as far as LT himself.

Downplay? I'm simply pointing our where your misrepresenting scans. The scans provided had nothing to do with DS power, but his role in the universe.

Here we go again. It took 5 skyfathers, but only a single top tier.

Originally posted by Soljer
Omega >>>>>>> Galactus >>>>>> Darkseid.

Gimme a friggin break.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Galactus>>>Omega. Omega is definitely not as powerful as Galactus, despite Thanos's claims to the contrary. I don't even think the guy was Skyfather. They beat him by blowing up his own ship after all.

Yeah, because Thanos wouldn't know? Because the writer didn't intend for Thanos saying something to...I dunno...MEAN something? ?

Originally posted by Soljer
Yeah, because Thanos wouldn't know? Because the writer didn't intend for Thanos saying something to...I dunno...MEAN something? ?

I see a slight double standard here . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I see a slight double standard here . . .

How so?

Originally posted by Soljer
How so?

Well most people (including you) take the position that if a character has no feats to back up the claims made about it said claims mean nothing.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well most people (including you) take the position that if a character has no feats to back up the claims made about it said claims mean nothing.

It varies from showing to showing. Spiderman saying Sentry stalemated Galactus is one thing.

Thanos knows Galactus, he CERTAINLY knows Omega, and he is a smart mother ****er. Thanos rarely makes mistakes....

Originally posted by His Airness
The Anti Monitor feat was done through tech.


Stop misrepresenting scans. Those scans prove exactly what I stated earlier. If Darkseid is removed from the DC time line, the universe will collapse upon itself. This does not mean DS has the power to destroy the universe.


When did "fear" count as a feat?

DS has never been shown capable of destroying a Galaxy.

you don't even read DC do you? much less understand it.

The OE feat wasnt done through tech, DS channeled it through Alex, thats it.

As I said on the first page, and listed a few of DS feat which out rank any skyfather.

And then the scans were posted to verify what I Said.

Their really is no satisfying you, so please go complain else where.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Galactus>>>Omega. Omega is definitely not as powerful as Galactus, despite Thanos's claims to the contrary. I don't even think the guy was Skyfather. They beat him by blowing up his own ship after all. So... basically you didn't read the comics then?
Because they certainly didn't beat him by blowing up his ship...

Omega also took full shots by Dr Strange, Genis, and Warlock.
He also took shots by Thanos to no effect.

And, if anyone showed any sort of knowledge on Omega, it was Genis who said that he easily dwarfs Galactus, and he knows because he encountered the real Galactus (his own words, but I'm not putting quotations).

And Thanos, said that he is probably twice as powerful as Galactus.
Yet, he also acknowledged all of Omega's flaws as well, and he still said he was twice as powerful.

Thanos:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3904/08cp3.th.jpg

Next page, Genis's cosmic senses say he dwarfs Galactus (cosmic sense, which would be his awareness, which dwarfs Silver Surfer's and almost anyone else outside of Cap Mar-Vell):
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8079/09xh9.th.jpg

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So... basically you didn't read the comics then?
Because they certainly didn't beat him by blowing up his ship...

Omega also took full shots by Dr Strange, Genis, and Warlock.
He also took shots by Thanos to no effect.

And, if anyone showed any sort of knowledge on Omega, it was Genis who said that he easily dwarfs Galactus, and he knows because he encountered the real Galactus (his own words, but I'm not putting quotations).

And Thanos, said that he is probably twice as powerful as Galactus.
Yet, he also acknowledged all of Omega's flaws as well, and he still said he was twice as powerful.

Thanos:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3904/08cp3.th.jpg

Next page, Genis's cosmic senses say he dwarfs Galactus (cosmic sense, which would be his awareness, which dwarfs Silver Surfer's and almost anyone else outside of Cap Mar-Vell):
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8079/09xh9.th.jpg

Omega never did any feats to verify his power level, so no he doesnt surpass Galactus.

Well going by comics Omega is atleast on Galactus's level so Darkseid won't be beating him.

Omega eats alive any version of Darkseid

if the damn comic and cosmic awarness says he drawf's galactus then he does.........there is no debate to that.

Omega>>>>>Galactus>>>Darkseid

wow we argree on something

Originally posted by Jebus reborn

Next page, Genis's cosmic senses say he dwarfs Galactus (cosmic sense, which would be his awareness, which dwarfs Silver Surfer's and almost anyone else outside of Cap Mar-Vell):
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8079/09xh9.th.jpg

OK I thought it was just some random claim thats fine in book though.

Originally posted by His Airness


Highfather may be identical to DC Odin in power, However Marvels Odin's feats are superior to them both.

Um yes. If character A can do something Character B is unable to do, than the only logical answer is that character A is more powerful.

This is what really is lame. Because is Marvel is more powerful. Says you!

They're practically the same you just belittle DS for some reason.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Was that before or after Galactus one-shotted him?



Why don't you read it? DS made Galactus get on one knee. It was pretty much declare that both recognize each other's might.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
This is what really is lame. Because is Marvel is more powerful. Says you!

They're practically the same you just belittle DS for some reason.



Why don't you read it? DS made Galactus get on one knee. It was pretty much declare that both recognize each other's might.

How are they practically the same when one has a shitty record of beatings, and the other doesn't?

Doesn't compute.

And where did he say Marvel is more powerful?

Just because you think a character from one company thinks another might lose, doesn't mean you have a bias against the entire company.

It pisses me off when people fall back on that weak stance.

Originally posted by UniOmni
How are they practically the same when one has a shitty record of beatings, and the other doesn't? Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings.

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings.
Pwned.

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings.

Know, he's saying when compared to a being with fairly similar power, you can base the outcome of who's more powerful off who has the lower showings.

When compared to Odin, DS highest feats aren't as impressive as Odins while his lower showings compared to Odins are horrible.

Higher showings Odin > DS

Lower Showings DS > Odin

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings.

He's had several ass whoopings fed to him.

That's not who i speak of tho.

WD said that Darkseid and Odin are nearly the same, and that's just not the case.

One has gotten his ass whipped by the elite top tier in DC several times, and while he's Superman, he's still merely an elite top tier.

The other one shots top tiers at will.

And Galactus having gotten his ass whooped means little, when it normally happens when he's weak as hell and about to, or desperately needs to feed.

So it's kinda excused away.

For one, i don't think Omega would be portrayed as more powerful than Galactus or Darkseid by any worthwhile writer, since its a shitty character and concieved in the height of stupidity.

Originally posted by UniOmni
For one, i don't think Omega would be portrayed as more powerful than Galactus or Darkseid by any worthwhile writer, since its a shitty character and concieved in the height of stupidity. Meh,

Omega = living Oblivion = a fairly powerful character.


Should it be more powerful than DS or Big G? srug

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you saying Galactus hasn't had some lame ass beatings. Of course not but I do understand where uniomi is coming from. Galactus has been stopped by plot devices or the writer will incessantly state how hungry or weak he is. I usually feel like the writer is stating this to excuse the loss before it happens. Ds is usually beaten "fist to face" as if the writer wants too embarrass him in the worst way possible.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Of course not but I do understand where uniomi is coming from. Galactus has been stopped by plot devices or the writer will incessantly state how hungry or weak he is. I usually feel like the writer is stating this to excuse the loss before it happens. Ds is usually beaten "fist to face" as if the writer wants too embarrass him in the worst way possible. I always think of the "Hercules getting teh Big G drunk" incident, as an all time low.

Originally posted by Board Walker
you don't even read DC do you? much less understand it.

The OE feat wasnt done through tech, DS channeled it through Alex, thats it.

As I said on the first page, and listed a few of DS feat which out rank any skyfather.

And then the scans were posted to verify what I Said.

Their really is no satisfying you, so please go complain else where.

I do, However I, unlike you, refrain from twisting and misinterpreting comics to benefit my biased opinion. Seeing as how you obviously either didn't read the Anti Monitor feat or your intentionally misinterpreting the event, I'll post the scans myself.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor4.jpg

From the first scan it's pointed out that Anti Monitor was extremely weakened before the battle with PC Supes, and Superboy. Am had previously fought and defeated Spectre, which is the primary reason he was weakened so. He no longer possessed the power he initially had. We know this because PC superman notes that AM was unable to kill Superboy with his blast.

The second scan shows, as a last resort, AM absorbing it's last universe to defeat the Superman and Boy. So you can stop the nonsense about how powerful AM was when attacked by DS.

Anyways, the second scan confirms that DS used tech to blast Anti Monitor. He did not use his own power and certainly did not use the OE . There is no indication, and nowhere was it stated, that DS used his own power to attack Anti Monitor.

Another thing to note about the 2nd scan is that it was the nearby sun, not DS blast itself that weakened Anti Monitor. Not only does the narration in the last scan confirm this, but the fact that AM was not mortally harmed is a good indication as well.


So are you ready to stop twisting the story to your suit your biased opinions?


Here we go again with your lies. You named a few feats that were irrelevant to my initial request. I asked for proof that DS could destroy a galaxy, you gave me some Telepathy feat, a TP feat, your misrepresented Anti Monitor feat, and your pantheon feat which I already addressed in an earlier post. These feats aren't even breaching the pinnacle of skyfather feats. Not only did you dodge my request, but you provided me with some of your lies.

Some scans were misinterpreted, again. So I addressed and fixed there flaws, again.

Stop the lies, and biased opinions, it's really not needed.

Oh yeah, and to address that parts about DS pantheon decimation feat that you failed to mention.

DS was attacking those pantheons to increase his power to an adequate enough lv to destroy Asgard, a task which required a vast army. meaning he didn't do so alone, it required the aid of other characters. While DS was shown blasting a few 'gods', their levels were never revealed and we never saw him face off against anyone at Odin's level.

Originally posted by UniOmni
How are they practically the same when one has a shitty record of beatings, and the other doesn't?

Doesn't compute.



What do you mean it doesn't compute? Maybe you need a reboot.

Muhammed Ali was a Boxing champion, right? He lost many fights in his career....does that mean he is not a champion because he lost some fights? No, no, no, no...



Prove it wrong then...I have illustrated how DS can stalemate Highfather. Try to prove how DS cannot possibly beat Odin.

Show your case.




(Correction on my post. I meant Highfather in the latter part...which can translate to Odin in MU)

Why is it that only WD is on my side when it comes to Darkseid? Where's Draco when you need him?

Not to mention Darkseid's losses were retconned as avatars.

Ok, I pointed something out. It took 5 skyfathers (including Highfather) to smash a weakened source wall, a feat Darkseid did on his own. The entire GL corp didn't want a war with Darkseid, because they didn't think they could win. Or how about the OE hurting Imperiex? I'd like to see Odin bring Galactus to his knees with it. And why is the Anti-monitor feat being disparaged? The tech was to utilize Alexander as a recepticle, the power was all Darkseid.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
What do you mean it doesn't compute? Maybe you need a reboot.

Muhammed Ali was a Boxing champion, right? He lost many fights in his career....does that mean he is not a champion because he lost some fights? No, no, no, no...



Prove it wrong then...I have illustrated how DS can stalemate Highfather. Try to prove how DS cannot possibly beat Odin.

Show your case.




(Correction on my post. I meant Highfather in the latter part...which can translate to Odin in MU)

Horrible analogy. Not even comparable to the discussion at hand.


I have one. How about Darkseid's feats pale in comparison to Odin's? Oh wait, I have another. Darkseid's has more pitiful low showings than Odin. One more, Odin has never been beaten by a top tier brick. Must I go on? the reason are obvious.

What don't you understand about Highfather not being the equivalent to Marvel Odin? Do you even have any knowledge on Odin, and his feats or do you just assume he's equal to Highfather for the hell of it?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Why is it that only WD is on my side when it comes to Darkseid? Where's Draco when you need him?

Not to mention Darkseid's losses were retconned as avatars.

Ok, I pointed something out. It took 5 skyfathers (including Highfather) to smash a weakened source wall, a feat Darkseid did on his own. The entire GL corp didn't want a war with Darkseid, because they didn't think they could win. Or how about the OE hurting Imperiex? I'd like to see Odin bring Galactus to his knees with it. And why is the Anti-monitor feat being disparaged? The tech was to utilize Alexander as a recepticle, the power was all Darkseid.

Could it be that he's equally as biased as you?

Darkseids loses to Superman weren't retconned.

I'll let others deal with the majority of your post, as I see no point in debating with a wall. However your Darkseid Anti Monitor was addressed in my above post you so gracefully avoided.

Originally posted by His Airness
Horrible analogy. Not even comparable to the discussion at hand.


I have one. How about Darkseid's feats pale in comparison to Odin's? Oh wait, I have another. Darkseid's has more pitiful low showings than Odin. One more, Odin has never been beaten by a top tier brick. Must I go on? the reason are obvious.

What don't you understand about Highfather not being the equivalent to Marvel Odin? Do you even have any knowledge on Odin, and his feats or do you just assume he's equal to Highfather for the hell of it?

No! you just don't like to accept it. Fine, ignore it.

Highfather not being equivalent to Marvel's Odin? You mean Highfather's communication with The Source by using the wonder staff isn't nearly as good as any feat by Odin?

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9923/metronnewgods01id8.jpg

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Why don't you read it? DS made Galactus get on one knee. It was pretty much declare that both recognize each other's might. Eh?
I remember Galactus casually shooting Darky away like a fly, after Dark's most powerful attack.

Not to mention in the beginning of the book, Galactus said that he was at his weakest he's ever been at in his whole history.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
No! you just don't like to accept it. Fine, ignore it.

Highfather not being equivalent to Marvel's Odin? You mean Highfather's communication with The Source by using the wonder staff isn't nearly as good as any feat by Odin?

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9923/metronnewgods01id8.jpg

What happened to Board Walker? Before hand she had so much to say.

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Originally posted by His Airness
I do, However I, unlike you, refrain from twisting and misinterpreting comics to benefit my biased opinion. Seeing as how you obviously either didn't read the Anti Monitor feat or your intentionally misinterpreting the event, I'll post the scans myself.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor4.jpg

From the first scan it's pointed out that Anti Monitor was extremely weakened before the battle with PC Supes, and Superboy. Am had previously fought and defeated Spectre, which is the primary reason he was weakened so. He no longer possessed the power he initially had. We know this because PC superman notes that AM was unable to kill Superboy with his blast.

The second scan shows, as a last resort, AM absorbing it's last universe to defeat the Superman and Boy. So you can stop the nonsense about how powerful AM was when attacked by DS.

Anyways, the second scan confirms that DS used tech to blast Anti Monitor. He did not use his own power and certainly did not use the OE . There is no indication, and nowhere was it stated, that DS used his own power to attack Anti Monitor.

Another thing to note about the 2nd scan is that it was the nearby sun, not DS blast itself that weakened Anti Monitor. Not only does the narration in the last scan confirm this, but the fact that AM was not mortally harmed is a good indication as well.


So are you ready to stop twisting the story to your suit your biased opinions?


Here we go again with your lies. You named a few feats that were irrelevant to my initial request. I asked for proof that DS could destroy a galaxy, you gave me some Telepathy feat, a TP feat, your misrepresented Anti Monitor feat, and your pantheon feat which I already addressed in an earlier post. These feats aren't even breaching the pinnacle of skyfather feats. Not only did you dodge my request, but you provided me with some of your lies.

Some scans were misinterpreted, again. So I addressed and fixed there flaws, again.

Stop the lies, and biased opinions, it's really not needed. 1] I guess in the second scan, you're overlooking the fact that the beam Darkseid sent through Alexander caused "COMPLETE DEVISTATION!!!", and left anti-monitor screaming the entire way to the sun. The blast did nothing?

2] Anti-Monitor didn't defeat Spectre. In fact, it was the other way around, despite Spectre being in an apperent coma after the event, it was not from the Anti-Monitor. However reading the History of the DCU, and his Secret File, and other sources, all point to him having defeated Anti-Monitor in that battle. When several sorcerors got together to try to revive him, we find that Spectre is downed by his own will. "He resists us! His power is too great" -- comes from the sorcerors, who included the vastly powerful Phantom Stranger.

Originally posted by Juntai
1] I guess in the second scan, you're overlooking the fact that the beam Darkseid sent through Alexander caused "COMPLETE DEVISTATION!!!", and left anti-monitor screaming the entire way to the sun. The blast did nothing?

2] Anti-Monitor didn't defeat Spectre. In fact, it was the other way around, despite Spectre being in an apperent coma after the event, it was not from the Anti-Monitor. However reading the History of the DCU, and his Secret File, and other sources, all point to him having defeated Anti-Monitor in that battle. When several sorcerors got together to try to revive him, we find that Spectre is downed by his own will. "He resists us! His power is too great" -- comes from the sorcerors, who included the vastly powerful Phantom Stranger.

When I say the blast did nothing, I meant it as it did nothing they described. It wasn't DS power, It wasn't the OE, Am wasn't at multiversal lv's, and the blast didn't kill him. Was it effective? yes. Did it do as they described? No.

Thanks for the correction. However my point was to show only the flaws in their argument.

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Originally posted by His Airness
When I say the blast did nothing, I meant it as it did nothing they described. It wasn't DS power, It wasn't the OE, Am wasn't at multiversal lv's, and the blast didn't kill him. Was it effective? yes. Did it do as they described? No.

Thanks for the correction. However my point was to show only the flaws in their argument.

You can't prove it wasn't the OE when the comic gives every indication it was. Not to mention, that as I pointed out, even if it was tech, Darkseid supplies the power for every piece of technology AND the firepits on Apokolips. doped It's true that AM wasn't maxed out, but he was still massively powerful. And it brought AM to his knees and enabled Earth 2 Superman to finish the job.

Originally posted by His Airness
Trickster for some odd reason believes DS can damn near defeat anybody. Ask him for some feats and witness what unfolds.

Anyways Omega, like Galactus would win 10/10 u are without a shadow of a doubt correct. create a celestial vs darkseid thread and watch his say darkseid would obliterate him. he is so blind to darkseids power and overates him so badly its kinda funny.

Originally posted by quanchi112
u are without a shadow of a doubt correct. create a celestial vs darkseid thread and watch his say darkseid would obliterate him. he is so blind to darkseids power and overates him so badly its kinda funny. Actually, I would like to see the responses in that one...
someone create it.

Does TricksterPriest breathe in nitrous oxide before he posts?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You can't prove it wasn't the OE when the comic gives every indication it was. Not to mention, that as I pointed out, even if it was tech, Darkseid supplies the power for every piece of technology AND the firepits on Apokolips. doped It's true that AM wasn't maxed out, but he was still massively powerful. And it brought AM to his knees and enabled Earth 2 Superman to finish the job.

We are now required to prove negatives?

How do you supply power to tech? If the power was your own, there would be no need for the tech.

Powerful yeah, but massively? No. His blast had become dull enough that top tiers could take them.

He didn't fall to his knees, he was knocked into the sun......

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
This is what really is lame. Because is Marvel is more powerful. Says you!

They're practically the same you just belittle DS for some reason.



Why don't you read it? DS made Galactus get on one knee. It was pretty much declare that both recognize each other's might. did u read the comic at all. darkseid took on galactus at a starving level and crushed darkseid. he took his omeag beam and it did nothing. darkseid's whole planet plus orion was owned. darkseid felt the wrath of galactus. omega would crush him as well

Originally posted by His Airness
I do, However I, unlike you, refrain from twisting and misinterpreting comics to benefit my biased opinion. Seeing as how you obviously either didn't read the Anti Monitor feat or your intentionally misinterpreting the event, I'll post the scans myself.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor2.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor3.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/antimonitor4.jpg

From the first scan it's pointed out that Anti Monitor was extremely weakened before the battle with PC Supes, and Superboy. Am had previously fought and defeated Spectre, which is the primary reason he was weakened so. He no longer possessed the power he initially had. We know this because PC superman notes that AM was unable to kill Superboy with his blast.

The second scan shows, as a last resort, AM absorbing it's last universe to defeat the Superman and Boy. So you can stop the nonsense about how powerful AM was when attacked by DS.

Anyways, the second scan confirms that DS used tech to blast Anti Monitor. He did not use his own power and certainly did not use the OE . There is no indication, and nowhere was it stated, that DS used his own power to attack Anti Monitor.

Another thing to note about the 2nd scan is that it was the nearby sun, not DS blast itself that weakened Anti Monitor. Not only does the narration in the last scan confirm this, but the fact that AM was not mortally harmed is a good indication as well.


So are you ready to stop twisting the story to your suit your biased opinions?


Here we go again with your lies. You named a few feats that were irrelevant to my initial request. I asked for proof that DS could destroy a galaxy, you gave me some Telepathy feat, a TP feat, your misrepresented Anti Monitor feat, and your pantheon feat which I already addressed in an earlier post. These feats aren't even breaching the pinnacle of skyfather feats. Not only did you dodge my request, but you provided me with some of your lies.

Some scans were misinterpreted, again. So I addressed and fixed there flaws, again.

Stop the lies, and biased opinions, it's really not needed. im just cathing up to this thread, nicely down. i like it when darkseid liars are exposed at the misrepresenters of the truth that a handful on here can be. you owned themmmmmmmmm.

Originally posted by His Airness
How do you supply power to tech? If the power was your own, there would be no need for the tech.

As insane as that sounds, it's not far from the truth. All energy that flows through Apokalips is generated straight from Darkseid's power. The firepits... everything, is an extension of his power.

I remember a specific comic where, directly from the source wall, Darkseid animates a huge statue of himself to stop a civil war on Apokalips. He stated that the energy required for him to do so all the way from the source wall was greater than the energy Apokalips outputs for an entire year.

whoever thinks darkseid could beat omega is on something. its just wrong if he is or isnt twice as powerful as galactus he is still more powerful than darkseid ok. case closed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
whoever thinks darkseid could beat omega is on something. its just wrong if he is or isnt twice as powerful as galactus he is still more powerful than darkseid ok. case closed.

If you're referring to me, I never said Darkseid would beat Omega.

Originally posted by batdude123
If you're referring to me, I never said Darkseid would beat Omega. well no then
im refering to trickster who has run off for the moment and realized the futility of his words in this thread. he has been run out of this thread by common sense and mr reason.

Originally posted by batdude123
Does TricksterPriest breathe in nitrous oxide before he posts?

Nope. I'm just high as a mug most of the time.

And thanks for backing me up on Darkseid's power.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nope. I'm just high as a mug most of the time.

And thanks for backing me up on Darkseid's power. well getting high explains ur reasoning skills. how many braincells have bit the dust. maybe 3 billion just like ur favorite darkseid feat with the daxamites. answer this does darkseid have a chance against omega in a straight up fight?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nope. I'm just high as a mug most of the time.

And thanks for backing me up on Darkseid's power.

"My firends love me cuz I don't ride dick
you gotta keep it real with the people you ride with
if you don't respect me then it is what it is"

Originally posted by His Airness
"My firends love me cuz I don't ride dick
you gotta keep it real with the people you ride with
if you don't respect me then it is what it is"

You're just being a ***** cause Batdude proved me right.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You're just being a ***** cause Batdude proved me right.

It's funny how excited you get because you finally get something right. I didn't even say you were wrong, I was asking a question you failed to answer.

so..... "My firends love me cuz I don't ride dick
you gotta keep it real with the people you ride with
if you don't respect me then it is what it is"

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You're just being a ***** cause Batdude proved me right. trickster answer my question? dont avoid it and from the looks of things i read u were embarrassed and owned. u are an extreme darkseid fanatic. u have four rules
1deny logic
2exaggerate his feats and bend the truth a lot
3every time he lost.....avatar
4 superman losses dont count

Has anyone ever considered that maybe Superman beating Darkseid is Kal demonstrating skyfather level power, rather than Darkseid jobbing or it being an avatar?

Originally posted by quanchi112
trickster answer my question? dont avoid it and from the looks of things i read u were embarrassed and owned. u are an extreme darkseid fanatic. u have four rules
1deny logic
2exaggerate his feats and bend the truth a lot
3every time he lost.....avatar
4 superman losses dont count

When Superman beats someone like Darkseid, or Imperiex, etc, nobody bats an eyelash. They just quietly walk away.

Now shush up and go suck on Thanos's wang elsewhere, you insufferable twit.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
When Superman beats someone like Darkseid, or Imperiex, etc, nobody bats an eyelash. They just quietly walk away.

Now shush up and go suck on Thanos's wang elsewhere, you insufferable twit. again the question can darkseid beat omega in a fight? answer the question.

Originally posted by batdude123
Has anyone ever considered that maybe Superman beating Darkseid is Kal demonstrating skyfather level power, rather than Darkseid jobbing or it being an avatar?

I dunno. I just figured to be considered above top tier you would require more than such a limited power set. I dunno, DS like Stranger doesn't seem as powerful as he once was.

Originally posted by batdude123
Has anyone ever considered that maybe Superman beating Darkseid is Kal demonstrating skyfather level power, rather than Darkseid jobbing or it being an avatar? Or, that it just contradicts the rest of his history?
Plus, he's done it what? Once?
With serious stipulations...

And to an avatar... once?

Quanchi, whats with you and attacking people? Do you now how silly you look, when you take a random poster's back, just because they oppose a Darkseid feat? And before you say I'm a Darkseid fanboy, let me tell you that I think he is incapable of defeating Omega. You need to chill out on this crap, it's very annoying, and obnoxious. I would also like to point out, how your very confusing. You try to downplay Ds for his Superman losses, then you turn around, and say "Superman beats people more powerful than himself". Another thing I need to say is, you're outragously hypocritical. You don't like people to tell you how they feel, but you sure as hell don't like when somebody does it to you. Stop harassing people who support a character you don't care for, it makes you look immature and childish.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Or, that it just contradicts the rest of his history?
Plus, he's done it what? Once?
With serious stipulations...

And to an avatar... once? so ur saying superman can never beat darkseid. this is what i dont get. u people act like superman has one out of a million chance to beat darkseid. darkseid is more powerful yes but its not out of the realm of possibilty to lose to superman. especially in dc comics. superman will always win there. hes the star. sooner u accpet the loss to him the better.

Originally posted by quanchi112
so ur saying superman can never beat darkseid. this is what i dont get. u people act like superman has one out of a million chance to beat darkseid. darkseid is more powerful yes but its not out of the realm of possibilty to lose to superman. especially in dc comics. superman will always win there. hes the star. sooner u accpet the loss to him the better. Darkseid has beaten him like... 10 times...
When one cheap win surpasses all of the other ownings... it really makes you wonder...

Plus, does anyone else get the "nvr" vibe from this guy?
Just seems like nvr got pissed (overrating Thanos, adressing the Darkseid loss at every oppurtunity), and made a sock to piss everyone off...
Oh well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
so ur saying superman can never beat darkseid. this is what i dont get. u people act like superman has one out of a million chance to beat darkseid. darkseid is more powerful yes but its not out of the realm of possibilty to lose to superman. especially in dc comics. superman will always win there. hes the star. sooner u accpet the loss to him the better. And he has the same chance against Thanos

Originally posted by His Airness
I dunno. I just figured to be considered above top tier you would require more than such a limited power set. I dunno, DS like Stranger doesn't seem as powerful as he once was.

Darkseid is versatile as a mother f*cker though. He's pretty much demonstrated the power to do whatever he wants.

He's not just a brick with the Omega Effect.

Originally posted by batdude123
Darkseid is versatile as a mother f*cker though. He's pretty much demonstrated the power to do whatever he wants.

He's not just a brick with the Omega Effect.

I was talking about Superman, his limited power set, and him displaying skyfather lv power.

DS imo is about low to mid skyfather lv. However like the Stranger in Marvel, I do see him steadily falling in the DC hierarchy. However this is just my opinion.

Originally posted by batdude123
Darkseid is versatile as a mother f*cker though. He's pretty much demonstrated the power to do whatever he wants.

He's not just a brick with the Omega Effect.


no, he's not. DS once lifted Lucifer by the throat and blasted him out of the galaxy with an Omega Blast. DS is not to be messed with

Originally posted by starking
Quanchi, whats with you and attacking people? Do you now how silly you look, when you take a random poster's back, just because they oppose a Darkseid feat? And before you say I'm a Darkseid fanboy, let me tell you that I think he is incapable of defeating Omega. You need to chill out on this crap, it's very annoying, and obnoxious. I would also like to point out, how your very confusing. You try to downplay Ds for his Superman losses, then you turn around, and say "Superman beats people more powerful than himself". Another thing I need to say is, you're outragously hypocritical. You don't like people to tell you how they feel, but you sure as hell don't like when somebody does it to you. Stop harassing people who support a character you don't care for, it makes you look immature and childish. here we go again rom you. you give me these speeches how ur done with me. yet here u come back again. how many times u going to fake ignore me to come back and respond to something ur not a part of. i say superman beats everyone so u cant deny darkseids loss to him. that is why i say it. to get u to realize that it counts. no arguing, it wasnt poorly writen, in the comic it said darkseid is stronger and more powerful but not that day. superman's back is agaisnt the wall and u know when hes going all out hes that much tougher. darkseid although superior to superman was humiliated and embarrassed by his loss as stated in the comic. that is embarrassing it was stated he doesnt want others to know cuz hes ashamed. i dont harass people. its simple arguing on a vs thread. dont make this more dramatic than it has to be. im not telling people to kill themselves im just asking why they think darkseid kills everyone. the poeple who thinks hes omnipotent. im curious how they think that way. u can go back to ignoring me again for the third time. next time u say u are done should i believe u. i wont cuz u dont follow through and always come back.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
no, he's not. DS once lifted Lucifer by the throat and blasted him out of the galaxy with an Omega Blast. DS is not to be messed with Morningstar?
When?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Or, that it just contradicts the rest of his history?
Plus, he's done it what? Once?
With serious stipulations...

And to an avatar... once?

First of all, I was being facetious... ass.

Second of all, have you read OWAW?

As it stands I believe Superman has "beaten" him 2 and a half times. I say "a half" because during OWAW, they stalemated each other right before Brainiac 13's energy tendril forced Lex Tower's weapon to fire on Apokalips.

One was during the Superman/Batman: Supergirl arc.

The other was during "Apokalips Now!".

Originally posted by batdude123
First of all, I was being facetious... ass.

Second of all, have you read OWAW?

As it stands I believe Superman has "beaten" him 2 and a half times. I say "a half" because during OWAW, they stalemated each other right before Brainiac 13's energy tendril forced Lex Tower's weapon to fire on Apokalips.

One was during the Superman/Batman: Supergirl arc.

The other was during "Apokalips Now!". Point?

Stalemating equates into a loss, or a half loss?

I know what they happened in, I have the comics... unfortunately...

Originally posted by His Airness
I was talking about Superman, his limited power set, and him displaying skyfather lv power.

Limited powerset... eh... is a subjective term. You don't really need an enormous amount of versatility to produce skyfather level power output. Superman, through pwning of skyfathers, demons, angels, mystical beings, gods, etc. has shown such plenty of times throughout his career.

Although, with a little creative usage, his power set can create a huge spectrum of possibilities you wouldn't think he could do. This he has also shown on many occasions.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Point?

Stalemating equates into a loss, or a half loss?

A dead even split for each character.

Originally posted by batdude123
A dead even split for each character. So... that goes for 10.5 to Darkseid as well then...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So... that goes for 10.5 to Darkseid as well then... darkseid has the most humiliating loss yet though. he says superman could rule apokolips if he wanted to.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So... that goes for 10.5 to Darkseid as well then...

I know.

I'm not saying Superman is Darkseid's equal here.

Originally posted by quanchi112
darkseid has the most humiliating loss yet though. he says superman could rule apokolips if he wanted to. OK, listen up, cause I ain't repeating what I say, ya herdz?

I'm thinking Arby's.