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The fight in an arena setting, a large circular area with huge white walls and a 20 foot diameter.

Movie Versions:
1)H2H
2)V with reg. equipment, Leo with his shield and spear (adamantium head)

Comic Versions:
1)H2H
2)V with reg. equipment, Leo with his shield and spear (adamantium head)

So anyways, Leo pwns him.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
The fight in an arena setting, a large circular area with huge white walls and a 20 foot diameter.

Movie Versions:
1)H2H
2)V with reg. equipment, Leo with his shield and spear (adamantium head)

Comic Versions:
1)H2H
2)V with reg. equipment, Leo with his shield and spear (adamantium head)

Leo ftw

dunno about comic. but for the first one, V pwns.

Leo's skills >>>>> V's.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Leo's skills >>>>> V's.

oh really? then how come Leo didnt kill that so called 'godking' with his spear and while V tossed numerous knives at guys armed with guns and killed them with ease. also, keep in mind, V has enhanced durability, after being able to take that much firepower with nothing but platemail armor(which is not bulletproof btw), and physical attributes: strength, reflexes, speed. see how he slew 12 guys before they could even reload their guns. more than 1 person with a gun that would actually know how to use it>Leo.

And what did he show in terms of H2H? Not to mention, if Leo can block every single attack thrown at him with his shield in multi-day fights, he can sure as hell block a couple knives. Leo's other spear feats throughout the series >>> the one low Xerces throw. Reflexes? Leo fought in hordes of armies, and was barely scratched what so ever.

And, with an adamantium spear head, his durability won't mean jack.

Not to mention, the ogre that Leo fought would have absolutley wrecked V.

Comic Versions?

I can see it now

V throwing smoke bombs and stuff, Lenodais just stands there and knocks his head off

The movie version of V would just jump around and do some fancy crap and Lenodais would just kick the s*it out of him again

300 movie >>>>>>>> V for vendetta movie

Originally posted by Grimm22
Comic Versions?

I can see it now

V throwing smoke bombs and stuff, Lenodais just stands there and knocks his head off

The movie version of V would just jump around and do some fancy crap and Lenodais would just kick the s*it out of him again

300 movie >>>>>>>> V for vendetta movie Sssh.

The truth makes Braz angry. ermmnone

Originally posted by braz
oh really? then how come Leo didnt kill that so called 'godking' with his spear and while V tossed numerous knives at guys armed with guns and killed them with ease. also, keep in mind, V has enhanced durability, after being able to take that much firepower with nothing but platemail armor(which is not bulletproof btw), and physical attributes: strength, reflexes, speed. see how he slew 12 guys before they could even reload their guns. more than 1 person with a gun that would actually know how to use it>Leo.

Because he was over 500 feet away

and the entire point wasn't to kill him, but do make him bleed

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You really didn't pay attention to the movie did you

Originally posted by braz
oh really? then how come Leo didnt kill that so called 'godking' with his spear and while V tossed numerous knives at guys armed with guns and killed them with ease. also, keep in mind, V has enhanced durability, after being able to take that much firepower with nothing but platemail armor(which is not bulletproof btw), and physical attributes: strength, reflexes, speed. see how he slew 12 guys before they could even reload their guns. more than 1 person with a gun that would actually know how to use it>Leo.

For the love of.....


V DOES NOT HAVE ENHANCED DURABILITY !

The Wachowski's tried to make a scene 'more epic' and screwed up. Simply put. Your only 'proof' of V having enhanced durability is PIS and a shitty scriptwriter.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
And what did he show in terms of H2H? Not to mention, if Leo can block every single attack thrown at him with his shield in multi-day fights, he can sure as hell block a couple knives. Leo's other spear feats throughout the series >>> the one low Xerces throw. Reflexes? Leo fought in hordes of armies, and was barely scratched what so ever.

And, with an adamantium spear head, his durability won't mean jack.

Not to mention, the ogre that Leo fought would have absolutley wrecked V.

good point about the battle thing, he hardly got hurt, but I would say V could've taken that ogre as well. It just wouldnt be easy though.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Sssh.

The truth makes Braz angry. ermmnone

Originally posted by grey fox
For the love of.....


V DOES NOT HAVE ENHANCED DURABILITY !

The Wachowski's tried to make a scene 'more epic' and screwed up. Simply put. Your only 'proof' of V having enhanced durability is PIS and a shitty scriptwriter.


once again, your opinion and I respect it, but that does not mean it is entirely true. Again, I have never heard this from anyone else that that was PIS.

Originally posted by braz
once again, your opinion and I respect it, but that does not mean it is entirely true. Again, I have never heard this from anyone else that that was PIS.

Have you ever read the original comic

V was killed by like 3 shots with a handgun

Originally posted by Grimm22
Have you ever read the original comic

V was killed by like 3 shots with a handgun

yes I have, but that is why there are comic versions of a character and movie versions. they just put a different twist for this movie version. why is that so hard to accept? I mean, they probably meant to have the platemail armor to be bulletproof to an extent(when it really isnt in real life), so thats how he wouldve survived all of that.

sorry but movie versions considered V pwns leo...

it's not so muh about skill since they both have plenty of that.. it's more attested to speed.. that ending scene PIS or not did show V do have unbelievable amounts of speed, he was moving like normal while everyone else was in slow motion.

Originally posted by jinzin
sorry but movie versions considered V pwns leo...

it's not so muh about skill since they both have plenty of that.. it's more attested to speed.. that ending scene PIS or not did show V do have unbelievable amounts of speed, he was moving like normal while everyone else was in slow motion.

Not bothered with the speed , V has ALWAYS had enhanced Speed and Reflexes. It's all this bull about enhanced durability that's pissing me off.

well he kinda DID survive an inferno.

you didn't give Leo his sword. For shame, good back up. I don this fight is kinda dumb IMO, but Leonidas was a more well trained warrior and more disciplined, he probably wins more times then not

Originally posted by grey fox
Not bothered with the speed , V has ALWAYS had enhanced Speed and Reflexes. It's all this bull about enhanced durability that's pissing me off.

wtf dude. how does he not have enhanced duability?? he got shot over 100 times, and if u think thats PIS thats bull because the directors wouldnt have been that stupid to make it that obvious and thats what u think.. if it was PIS, then it would have made it look more reasonable with him trying to doge some gunfire and charging at them and not getting hit as much and still surviving.

Originally posted by jinzin
well he kinda DID survive an inferno.

Originally posted by braz
wtf dude. how does he not have enhanced duability?? he got shot over 100 times, and if u think thats PIS thats bull because the directors wouldnt have been that stupid to make it that obvious and thats what u think.. if it was PIS, then it would have made it look more reasonable with him trying to doge some gunfire and charging at them and not getting hit as much and still surviving.

Bah, I still don't think that is very impressive. After a few bullets I would have aimed for his head. The one with the big white mask for a target. I mean its common sense at least to me that if I shoot someone I aim for the head. More often then not it means an instant-kill. Even if I don't aim for the head, if bullets in the chest won't do it I would go for the head. If I were in that scene I would shoot at his head, and then say, "come now shoot at his head."

"Head shots, shoot between the eyes
and bullets in the dome like all you cowards dyin'
Knife work, stab you in the heart and the throat
And we don't leave till you gargle or choke"

I mean if you want V dead you shoot between the eyes and after he is down you stab him in the heart and throat and don't leave till he gargles and chokes, lol.

I mean so many people with guns unloading lead and not aiming for the head. It makes no sense to me.

If a target is just willing to be stationary, your best bet is a head shot and then just to make it overkill, just shoot till there is nothing bur mush for a head.

If that doesn't work then you just run like a little girl and hopefully you will live.

Originally posted by bean_machine


I mean so many people with guns unloading lead and not aiming for the head. It makes no sense to me.

What any more than one man (Literally) taking on the government and winning?

And V wins at least movie V if we consider the facts of what occurred within but films.

Originally posted by Supreme being
What any more than one man (Literally) taking on the government and winning?

And V wins at least movie V if we consider the facts of what occurred within but films.

With 10 years prep yes. No prep no.

Originally posted by bean_machine
With 10 years prep yes. No prep no.

Originally posted by bean_machine
Bah, I still don't think that is very impressive. After a few bullets I would have aimed for his head. The one with the big white mask for a target. I mean its common sense at least to me that if I shoot someone I aim for the head. More often then not it means an instant-kill. Even if I don't aim for the head, if bullets in the chest won't do it I would go for the head. If I were in that scene I would shoot at his head, and then say, "come now shoot at his head."

"Head shots, shoot between the eyes
and bullets in the dome like all you cowards dyin'
Knife work, stab you in the heart and the throat
And we don't leave till you gargle or choke"

I mean if you want V dead you shoot between the eyes and after he is down you stab him in the heart and throat and don't leave till he gargles and chokes, lol.

I mean so many people with guns unloading lead and not aiming for the head. It makes no sense to me.

actually you should probably go watch the scene again.. a bit more carefully this time around.. multiple bullets are deflected off his plated face mask and he even has various marks from where the bullets hit him when he starts butchering everyone.

Originally posted by braz
wtf dude. how does he not have enhanced duability?? he got shot over 100 times, and if u think thats PIS thats bull because the directors wouldnt have been that stupid to make it that obvious and thats what u think.. if it was PIS, then it would have made it look more reasonable with him trying to doge some gunfire and charging at them and not getting hit as much and still surviving.

*sigh*

Ok let me run through this ONCE MORE.

The Wachowski's blended the book with their own shit. The books 'showdown' scene is between V and Finch (Balding , trench coat wearing copper who'd just had a LSD trip). He shot V with a revolver. V then escapes back to Evey and dies. The wachowskis didn't think that was impressive and raped the storyline they were trying to emulate.

Bit's and pieces my friend , bits and pieces.

Anyways, Leo wins.

He rapes V in H2H, and, as the far superior tactician with the FAR superior skills, he would be able to keep up with V long enough to put his spear head through V's ribs.

Originally posted by jinzin
actually you should probably go watch the scene again.. a bit more carefully this time around.. multiple bullets are deflected off his plated face mask and he even has various marks from where the bullets hit him when he starts butchering everyone.

I just re-watched the scene Jin and all I can see is a single chip on the side from a glancing shot. Show me a Pic and i'll belive , otherwise I'm calling BS.

Originally posted by jinzin
actually you should probably go watch the scene again.. a bit more carefully this time around.. multiple bullets are deflected off his plated face mask and he even has various marks from where the bullets hit him when he starts butchering everyone.

mhm. they did. those littel black marks were bullets, and if u remember in the beginning, V let that guy punch him in the face and it nearly broke his hand, and screamed in agony.

Originally posted by bean_machine
Bah, I still don't think that is very impressive. After a few bullets I would have aimed for his head. The one with the big white mask for a target. I mean its common sense at least to me that if I shoot someone I aim for the head. More often then not it means an instant-kill. Even if I don't aim for the head, if bullets in the chest won't do it I would go for the head. If I were in that scene I would shoot at his head, and then say, "come now shoot at his head."

"Head shots, shoot between the eyes
and bullets in the dome like all you cowards dyin'
Knife work, stab you in the heart and the throat
And we don't leave till you gargle or choke"

I mean if you want V dead you shoot between the eyes and after he is down you stab him in the heart and throat and don't leave till he gargles and chokes, lol.

I mean so many people with guns unloading lead and not aiming for the head. It makes no sense to me.

the reason they didnt is because they didnt think they would have to. they just wanted to go for the biggest target, his body, and rip him up so when they kill him, they can take a look at his face.

Originally posted by grey fox
*sigh*

Ok let me run through this ONCE MORE.

The Wachowski's blended the book with their own shit. The books 'showdown' scene is between V and Finch (Balding , trench coat wearing copper who'd just had a LSD trip). He shot V with a revolver. V then escapes back to Evey and dies. The wachowskis didn't think that was impressive and raped the storyline they were trying to emulate.

Bit's and pieces my friend , bits and pieces.

yes, I believe you. but the part I still do not agree with you is that they 'raped the storyline' they just did their own twist on the character, and made him even more badass, thats all.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Anyways, Leo wins.

He rapes V in H2H, and, as the far superior tactician with the FAR superior skills, he would be able to keep up with V long enough to put his spear head through V's ribs.

good thread...

It is, actually.

I really thought it was going to be more even sided than this...i was even thinking V can win this, at least movie version...he slaughtered anyone. His strength and agility and speed should make up for any fighting ability leonidas has...not taking anything away from the King...i mean he was utterly badass. But...

Since V didn't have a worthy opponent, there were no great feats for him to pull off.

Originally posted by bean_machine
Since V didn't have a worthy opponent, there were no great feats for him to pull off. About a dozen armed, well trained men isn't good enough.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Anyways, Leo wins.

He rapes V in H2H, and, as the far superior tactician with the FAR superior skills, he would be able to keep up with V long enough to put his spear head through V's ribs.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Anyways, Leo wins.

He rapes V in H2H, and, as the far superior tactician with the FAR superior skills, he would be able to keep up with V long enough to put his spear head through V's ribs.

Lol. Anyways..

Im sorry, but I think youre wrong. V has enhanced intelligence and thus, like superhuman intelligence possibly above genius level. he would make Leo look like a Neandrathal. theres no way hes a 'far superior tactician'.. when compared to V? No. And if you look back at previous posts, it is stated V also has enhanced physical attributes(strength, speed, reflexes) he doesnt even need durability to beat Leo(for the sake of grey fox), because he has the metal breastplate which would protect him. and also, V's from the future, even past our time, and is much much more up to date with the latest, best fighting techniques. Leo's from the past, 3000 years ago approximately, and thus, doesnt know all of the best ways to fight. for example, take a look at Bruce Lee. awesome fighter from the 60's and 70's, greatest ever FOR HIS TIME. but would get raped by modern fighters. same with V and Leo, except instead of 30-40 years its more like a 3000+ year difference.

Didn't see 300 yet. Is it any good? Seems like a good fight.

Either way..

V for Vendetta = Great Comic, but S*it movie

300 = Great Comic, and even better movie

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Didn't see 300 yet. Is it any good? Seems like a good fight.

chyea, it was freaking amazing. last night was my second time to see it and it just got even better!..

Originally posted by Grimm22
Either way..

V for Vendetta = Great Comic, but S*it movie

300 = Great Comic, and even better movie

yeah I know, and thats just exactly what all my friends said and everyone else Ive discussed comics with on this site or another, that V for Vendetta was a shitty movie.

Originally posted by jgiant
About a dozen armed, well trained men isn't good enough.

I mean like a nemesis. An opponent that makes the hero push himself to have awsome feats.

Low level street heros can handle a dozen, well trained men.

Like Spiderman has, Venom, Green Goblin, Hob Goblin, Sand Man, etc.

If V had a good counter-part then I might have been more impressed.

Leo took on a freakish Persian, and tore up a hella lot of soldiers...but all V has to do is use is speed and skill to nail Leo wit one of his knifes...Leo can't block them all and they will be hitting places where his sheild isn't protecting...V has enhanced abilities, Leo does not.

Originally posted by jgiant
Leo took on a freakish Persian, and tore up a hella lot of soldiers...but all V has to do is use is speed and skill to nail Leo wit one of his knifes...Leo can't block them all and they will be hitting places where his sheild isn't protecting...V has enhanced abilities, Leo does not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k

despite that, leo wins

Originally posted by Grimm22
Either way..

V for Vendetta = Great Comic, but S*it movie

300 = Great Comic, and even better movie V for Vendetta was a great movie dude. We must be going with "Grimms word is law"confused

V take'a a very solid majority.

this whole thread dont make sense, fighting on the battle field with persians is not the same as fighting an advanced human who can move so fast that your dead before you reload, im soooooooo sure V cant dodge this guys weapons, yeah right.......he only dodges bullets but this guys weapons OH NO NOT EVER.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
V for Vendetta was a great movie dude. We must be going with "Grimms word is law"confused



































































It was an awesome movie one of the best comic book films around, and movie V beats movie Leonidas easily disputing the fact based on which film you thought was better is just stupid and illogical in terms of this ongoing debate.

V takes out all the 300 at once ...

I think V would take out King Leonidas. Also, how can people say that V has no enhanced durability or anything, did he live through that fire many years ago?

PS: I never read the V for Vendetta comic Any idea where I can get it?

I can't believe how many people before thought leo would win...sure he is badass and could match any human in combat...but V is not human...I think its cuz this movie just came out and everyone is all hyped up on it...give it about 3 months...and think about it...

Originally posted by llagrok
I think V would take out King Leonidas. Also, how can people say that V has no enhanced durability or anything, did he live through that fire many years ago?

PS: I never read the V for Vendetta comic Any idea where I can get it?

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Where to buy comics...hmmm...

Try a comic shop.

yeah, so anyways V pwns him.

Originally posted by Soljer
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Where to buy comics...hmmm...

Try a comic shop.

They don't have any one of those where I live...

Originally posted by jinzin
actually you should probably go watch the scene again.. a bit more carefully this time around.. multiple bullets are deflected off his plated face mask and he even has various marks from where the bullets hit him when he starts butchering everyone.


You tell him jinzin!

Originally posted by jinzin
sorry but movie versions considered V pwns leo...

it's not so muh about skill since they both have plenty of that.. it's more attested to speed.. that ending scene PIS or not did show V do have unbelievable amounts of speed, he was moving like normal while everyone else was in slow motion.

So what if V is faster? Leo can take a lot more shit, and is more powerful. I think it would be hard to call since if Leo got one hit in V would die, bullets are one thing but a sword through your heart is not something V could take. Leo lasted how many days? with 300 men against the millions? He took bombs, large stampeding animal, very freakish fat men, and the occasional jump kick from a crazy immortal
V took men with guns.... lazy men because lets face it people who police for shitty governments don't really give a crap, and being as its a total regime (sp?) they are likely not to have much work to do.

I'd also like see who had the more interesting battle speech...

im soooooo sure he took the bombs, arrows and all that stuff point blank where it was able to hurt him and bleed him dry, him standing up to those millions dont mean nothing it just means he was a very good stratagist, that dont mean he can defeat a meta human in combat.

What people have to understand is that leo did not defeat 1,000's upon 1,000's of solders.

300, well trained, well armed, Olympic level (not peak or enhanced) warriors who have been fighting since they could walk, and training together for god knows how long, defeated wave after wave of Persians.

They fought as a group, a well built and oiled machine, it was even stated in the movie, that each man in formation watched the man to the left and right of him. While in formation, they were near unbeatable.

But what happened when they broke formation, when they fought the immortals, they started to take casualties, they weren't so unbeatable anymore.

A single Spartan, could not stand against the likes of the Top tier Martial artist of marvel, these guys can bend steal with there fist, jump 30 story's straight up, dodge bullets with ease, sense atmospheric disturbances, jump from rooftop to rooftop, throw a weapon so accurate, it can bounce of multiple walls and still hit its target with precision, and then catch it.

Leo vs any Top tier Martial artist losses horribly, people should consider adding a couple more Spartans to even the odds, because like I just said, they were near unbeatable when fighting as a team, not the individual.


Edit: I said Marvel top tier, change that to any Top Tier Enhanced Martial Artsit. You guys know what I meant.