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1 day rest after each match
how far does he go?

1.Darkseid
2.superman 1million
3.Shazam
4.anti monitor
5.ultimator
6.Mr. Mxyzptlk
7.spectre
8.Lucifer Morningstar

ultimater is stronger then Mxy so 5 and pre retcon MM is gone

he clears it.

I don't see him getting past Mxy personally.

Ultimator is well above Myx from what I've heard and I don't think MM has the feats to put him even on Myx's level.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Ultimator is well above Myx from what I've heard and I don't think MM has the feats to put him even on Myx's level. why stalemating beyonder who punked LT.

Originally posted by xmeat
why stalemating beyonder who punked LT.

LT then was not as poweful as he is now?

Originally posted by xmeat
why stalemating beyonder who punked LT. Beyonder or MM NEVER put a finger on LT.

And MM was FAR from "stalemating" Beyonder.

When did the anti-monitor become chopped liver? Dude's a multi-verse destroyer.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
When did the anti-monitor become chopped liver? Dude's a multi-verse destroyer.

So are Myx and Ultimator.

Originally posted by Galan007
Beyonder or MM NEVER put a finger on LT.

True.

But MM and Beyonder were still undoubtably more powerful than LT.

Why?

Because Beyonder especially, was himself a Mystical Imbalance to the Multiverse.

LT sat back and watched the balance of Life and Death get raped.

ALL the Concepts including LT seemingly paid homage to MM, not in so many words, but simply by getting out the way when MM showed up.

The Cosmics including LT were relieved to see MM,

finally our saviour has arrived, the Molecule Man.


Originally posted by Galan007
And MM was FAR from "stalemating" Beyonder.

MM stalemated Beyonder for a while, although he ultimately lost.

But let's not forget,

MM shielded himself and the rest of the heroes plus ALL the life across the Multiverse that was in the path of Beyonder's death blast.

Then MM blocked ALL of the Beyonder's power from wiping out the Multiverse.

at the same time, MM took the Beyonder's power and directed it,

into the Beyond Realm.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
When did the anti-monitor become chopped liver? Dude's a multi-verse destroyer.

After battling the Beyonder one on one,

nearly depleted Molecule Man was able to block and shield the Multiverse,

from an omni-directional Multiversal Destroying blast by the Beyonder himself.


Destroying a Multiverse is not going to affect MM.

Originally posted by Mr Master
True.

But MM and Beyonder were still undoubtably more powerful than LT.Never said he wasn't.

Just said he never "punked" LT on panel.
Originally posted by Mr Master
MM stalemated Beyonder for a while, although he ultimately lost. They locked horns for two pages, then MM was swatted away easily by Beyonder.


If you consider that stalemating Beyonder for a while,

Then you're 100% correct.

All the abstracts admitted that Owen Rence (Molecule man) was supreme to them in every way. This was before they got to know Beyonder.

http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7753/mo2ds6wm5.jpg

So yeah, Pre-retcon Molecule man would be able to kill the entire host of Marvel abstracts with ease, the Living Tribunal included.

Oh, passes.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
All the abstracts admitted that Owen Rence (Molecule man) was supreme to them in every way. This was before they got to know Beyonder. In every way?

Probably not.

Originally posted by Galan007
Never said he wasn't.

Just said he never "punked" LT on panel.

Actually Beyonder did punk LT.

LT's job is to maintain the Multiversal Balance.

Beyonder threatened that through out the series.

Beyonder erased Multi-Death.

LT did nothing.


Nuff said.


Originally posted by Galan007
They locked horns for two pages, then MM was swatted away easily by Beyonder.

If you consider that stalemating Beyonder for a while,

Then you're 100% correct.

Actually I consider Beyonder himself saying,

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/441/mm4nw9.th.jpg

"YOU (Molecule Man) HAD a CHANCE and it's UNBELIEVABLE that YOU (MM) did"




So from Beyonder's own mouth, MM had a chance at defeating the Beyonder.

Not quite the way you made it sound ey.

he cant get past DS.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
All the abstracts admitted that Owen Rence (Molecule man) was supreme to them in every way. This was before they got to know Beyonder.

So yeah, Pre-retcon Molecule man would be able to kill the entire host of Marvel abstracts with ease, the Living Tribunal included.

Oh, passes.

I completely agree T,

the On Panel evidence can not be disputed.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nuff said. The arrogance of some people never ceases to amaze me.

-Nuff said

Originally posted by Mr Master
Not quite the way you made it sound ey. I didn't make it sound any particular way.

How much of a chance did MM really have if Beyonder still swatted him away like a punk?


You know what, don't answer that.

I don't want to debate this ridiculous crap any more.

Originally posted by Galan007
The arrogance of some people never ceases to amaze me.

Intransigence is a bit more irritating if you ask me.


Originally posted by Galan007
-Nuff said

LT's job is to maintain the Multiversal Balance.

Beyonder threatened that through out the series.

Beyonder erased Multi-Death.

LT did nothing.


Nuff said.



Who should be ...


Originally posted by Galan007
I didn't make it sound any particular way.

How much of a chance did MM really have if Beyonder still swatted him away like a punk?

He was swatted away like a punk and yet managed to shield the Heroes and himself and ALL the life across the Multiverse Beyonder's death blast touched.


He was swatted away like a punk and yet,

he shielded the ENTIRE MULTIVERSE from Beyonder's omni-directional blast,

Millions of times more power than the Multiverse,

and MM BLOCKED it, and then controlled that power and re-directed it,

into the Beyond Realm.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Intransigence is a bit more irritating if you ask me.

It is hilarious that YOU of all people would claim ANYONE else was "intransigent"...



Intransigent:

1.) Characterized by refusal to compromise or to abandon an extreme position or attitude : uncompromising.




Now that's the pot calling the kettle black. ...




Anyhoo,

Here's my last post incase you missed it:
Originally posted by Galan007
You know what, don't answer that.

I don't want to debate this ridiculous crap any more.

Originally posted by Galan007
It is hilarious that YOU of all people would claim ANYONE else was "intransigent"...

Intransigent:

1.) Characterized by refusal to compromise or to abandon an extreme position or attitude : uncompromising.

You want this to get ugly, I'm game.

You began with the insults when you saw your position on the matter flopped.

Not my fault you lost control.


You call me arrogant cause I can debate with sensible logic and I have an argument to counter yours.

So I call you intransigent cause you won't admit to the facts.


Originally posted by Galan007
Now that's the pot calling the kettle black.

lmfao


Originally posted by Galan007
Anyhoo,

Here's my last post incase you missed it:

It's not easy to miss the stink of shit ...

Originally posted by Mr Master
So I call you intransigent

Intransigent:

1.) Characterized by refusal to compromise or to abandon an extreme position or attitude : uncompromising.




Now that's the pot calling the kettle black. ...



Originally posted by Mr Master
cause you won't admit to the facts.What facts didn't I "admit" to?

I know exactly what happened.

MM put up a great fight, but IMO he didn't stalemate Beyonder.


Did I say your opinion on the matter was wrong?


Originally posted by Mr Master
It's not easy to miss the stink of shit You're absolutley correct.

Originally posted by Galan007
Now that's the pot calling the kettle black.

Then ugly it is. (Just KNOW YOU started it)


Stop knocking yourself like that,

I still think you can debate,

but you obviously get stung when you're proven wrong.


Take it easy duke, the prick line is quite long and doesn't need another soul.


Originally posted by Galan007
What facts didn't I "admit" to?

I know exactly what happened.

MM put up a great fight, but IMO he didn't stalemate Beyonder.

He stalemated Beyonder for a while,

Beyonder himself said, MM had a chance at defeating him.


MM shielded the entire Multiverse from Beyonder's FULL Power.

Then CONTROLLED Beyonder's FULL Power and directed it into the Beyond Realm.


Originally posted by Galan007
Did I say your opinion on the matter was wrong?

I never said your opinion was wrong either,

it seems that everytime I disagree with you, you think I'm insulting you,

or I'm yelling out, Galan is wrong and stupid for making that claim.


And it's funny cause you threw the first insult:
Originally posted by Galan007
The arrogance of some people never ceases to amaze me.

So I'm arrogant cause my point differs from yours?

Cause I'm making sense?


What the Fuk is up you ass?


Originally posted by Galan007
You're absolutley correct.

Then relax, and you won't need to pepelepew any of us anymore.

Originally posted by Mr Master
but you obviously get stung when you're proven wrong. I simply stated my opinion which was that MM didn't stalemate Beyonder (in the true sense), he did great against him.

But I don't think they stalemated.


Just my opinion.


Originally posted by Mr Master
the prick line is quite long.Not saying that you're a prick, just saying that your enormous ego complex gets in the way of your debating.

I'm not the only one who thinks this.

Originally posted by Mr Master
He stalemated Beyonder for a while,

Beyonder himself said, MM had a chance at defeating him.


MM shielded the entire Multiverse from Beyonder's FULL Power.

Then CONTROLLED Beyonder's FULL Power and directed it into the Beyond Realm. I simply stated my opinion which was that MM didn't stalemate Beyonder (in the true sense), he did great against him.

But I don't think they stalemated.


Just my opinion.

This isn't the type of shit I want to indulge in,

but neither you nor anyone else will insult me for no reason,

and not get a mutual response.

boxing

Originally posted by Galan007
I simply stated my opinion which was that MM didn't stalemate Beyonder (in the true sense), he did great against him.

But I don't think they stalemated.

I never said MM stalemated Beyonder either,

we both know Beyonder was beyond MM, but not by so much.

You said, MM was FAR from stalemating Beyonder, that's the only thing I disagreed with, and then I gave my reasons why.


Originally posted by Galan007
Not saying that you're a prick, just saying that your enormous ego complex gets in the way of your debating.

Whatever,

An ego complex is thinking you're right and the best all the time concerning everything.

If that was me, I would not concede when I'm wrong with proof.

King Kandy, Leonidas, Ill12, amongst others, have all seen me concede, when they were right and I was wrong.


Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not the only one who has attested to this.

I could tell you what some think about you, but I don't care what they think,

so imagine how much less I care about your secret circle of gossip.

They probably got OWNED and now harbor a grudge for life against me,

I have several SOCKS that follow me around the forum.


Originally posted by Galan007
I simply stated my opinion which was that MM didn't stalemate Beyonder (in the true sense), he did great against him.

But I don't think they stalemated.

Just my opinion.

And as always, and please don't get it confused,

again, as always I respect your opinion and I agree for the most part with it.


But MM was close to stalemating Beyonder and even defeating him,

according to Beyonder himself.


So did MM stalemate the Beyonder?

No.

Did MM come close to stalemating him? (not to push it by saying defeating him)

Yes.

Originally posted by Mr Master
^^^ This isn't the type of shit I want to indulge in,

but neither you nor anyone else will insult me for no reason,

and not get a mutual response.

boxing

Originally posted by Mr Master
And as always, and please don't get it confused,

again, as always I respect your opinion and I agree for the most part with it.


But MM was close to stalemating Beyonder and even defeating him,

according to Beyonder himself.


So did MM stalemate the Beyonder?

No.

Did MM come close to stalemating him (not to push it by saying defeating him)?

Yes. And I agree with this, and never once disputed it.

It was when comments like 'nuff said' were thrown out, that it got started getting stupid.



But anyhow,

Again I do agree with this, it just seemed as though some people (not you), were insinuating...

MM >/= Beyonder.


This is most certainly not true.

He stops at 5

Originally posted by Endless Mike
He stops at 5

Agree

Originally posted by Galan007
MM >/= Beyonder.


This is most certainly not true.

I agree 100%