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In one story, it was shown that if Darkseid was removed from the Dc universe, the entire universe itself would erase. If your power is that important to your universe wouldn't that put on Odin's level or even Galactus. Another question I have is about the New Gods true forms. Is it true thier the size of a universe? I've been dying to see the scan, where that statement was made, can someone please show it to me?

Originally posted by starking
In one story, it was shown that if Darkseid was removed from the Dc universe, the entire universe itself would erase. If your power is that important to your universe wouldn't that put on Odin's level or even Galactus. Another question I have is about the New Gods true forms. Is it true thier the size of a universe? I've been dying to see the scan, where the statement was made, can someone please show it to me?

DS is powerful in theory, but never in practice...as he is basically Superman's whipping boy.

Originally posted by masterbruce
DS is powerful in theory, but never in practice...as he is basically Superman's whipping boy.

In Superman comics, yes...

the better question is why does he suck?

Originally posted by xmeat
the better question is why does he suck?

The better question is, why are you still here?

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
In Superman comics, yes...
The only comics he appears in.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
The better question is, why are you still here?

prob because he still elicits responses from posters like you

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
In Superman comics, yes...

he's not much better in JL

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
The better question is, why are you still here? no i think my question is better.

Originally posted by xmeat
no i think my question is better.

No, it's really not.

You fail n00b.

Originally posted by masterbruce
DS is powerful in theory, but never in practice...as he is basically Superman's whipping boy. But the thing about Darkseid's power being important to the universe isn't just theory, it was shown on panel and I've seen it myself.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
No, it's really not.

You fail n00b.

Originally posted by xmeat
no i think my question is better. Can you please get the hell out of here, I don't need your bias ass opinion.

Originally posted by Validus
The only comics he appears in.


New Gods?

Originally posted by masterbruce
he's not much better in JL

And Superman was getting owned by laser beams...

Originally posted by starking
Can you please get the hell out of here, I don't need your bias ass opinion. no

Originally posted by xmeat
no Well for god's sake will you stop trolling, if you don't like something then don't comment on it.

Originally posted by starking
Well for god's sake will you stop trolling, if you don't like something then don't comment on it. make me
no beg me.

Originally posted by xmeat
make me
no beg me. How about I report you.

Originally posted by starking
How about I report you. ah damn

Can anyone else answer my question.

bump

the scan about the universe collapsing, and presumably the one you're looking for, is in the Darkseid respect thread.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
the scan about the universe collapsing, and presumably the one you're looking for, is in the Darkseid respect thread. Yeah I've seen it, but I was wondering if he that feat would put him on Odin or Galactus's level.

Originally posted by starking
Yeah I've seen it, but I was wondering if he that feat would put him on Odin or Galactus's level.

Ideally yes, even Kirby said he was making Darkseid to be at Galactus's level

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ideally yes, even Kirby said he was making Darkseid to be at Galactus's level

And then DC went and fuc... him up.

bump

Originally posted by starking
In one story, it was shown that if Darkseid was removed from the Dc universe, the entire universe itself would erase. If your power is that important to your universe wouldn't that put on Odin's level or even Galactus.

Not necessarily. Importance wouldn't necessarily have a correlation to power one is able to bring to bear, if you get my meaning.

He plays an important part in the continued existance of the universe? Definitely. This was pretty well explained in the Spectre issue (19, I believe, of v4) in which the Spectre tried to kill him only for Darkseid to reform himself in seconds.

Darkseid is important, and with him the universe falls, but that doesn't mean that the power is necessarily contained with himself.

Which isn't to say I don't think he SHOULD be that powerful, but you know, thats not in the cards right now it seems.



That is untrue.

The New Gods exist in a universe seperate from our own. Revealled in V3 was that they exist in a larger, "truer" universe than that which we (Or rather, the normal DCU) resides in. The normal DC universe is just a small pocket, a mere subset, of their universe.

The true size of a New God is such that planets are comparable to grapes. The Mother Box adjusts ones size as they step through the boom tube.

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/999426/newgods1011.jpg

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/999427/newgods1012.jpg

http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/999428/newgods1014.jpg


Enjoy.

Originally posted by Desaad
Not necessarily. Importance wouldn't necessarily have a correlation to power one is able to bring to bear, if you get my meaning.

He plays an important part in the continued existance of the universe? Definitely. This was pretty well explained in the Spectre issue (19, I believe, of v4) in which the Spectre tried to kill him only for Darkseid to reform himself in seconds.

Darkseid is important, and with him the universe falls, but that doesn't mean that the power is necessarily contained with himself.

Which isn't to say I don't think he SHOULD be that powerful, but you know, thats not in the cards right now it seems.



That is untrue.

The New Gods exist in a universe seperate from our own. Revealled in V3 was that they exist in a larger, "truer" universe than that which we (Or rather, the normal DCU) resides in. The normal DC universe is just a small pocket, a mere subset, of their universe.

The true size of a New God is such that planets are comparable to grapes. The Mother Box adjusts ones size as they step through the boom tube.

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/999426/newgods1011.jpg

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/999427/newgods1012.jpg

http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/999428/newgods1014.jpg


Enjoy. Thanks

Originally posted by Desaad
Not necessarily. Importance wouldn't necessarily have a correlation to power one is able to bring to bear, if you get my meaning.

He plays an important part in the continued existance of the universe? Definitely. This was pretty well explained in the Spectre issue (19, I believe, of v4) in which the Spectre tried to kill him only for Darkseid to reform himself in seconds.

Darkseid is important, and with him the universe falls, but that doesn't mean that the power is necessarily contained with himself.

Which isn't to say I don't think he SHOULD be that powerful, but you know, thats not in the cards right now it seems.



That is untrue.

The New Gods exist in a universe seperate from our own. Revealled in V3 was that they exist in a larger, "truer" universe than that which we (Or rather, the normal DCU) resides in. The normal DC universe is just a small pocket, a mere subset, of their universe.

The true size of a New God is such that planets are comparable to grapes. The Mother Box adjusts ones size as they step through the boom tube.

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/999426/newgods1011.jpg

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/999427/newgods1012.jpg

http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/999428/newgods1014.jpg


Enjoy. Yes but that no doubt was retconned. The TT have travelled to Apokolips without a BT and they were the same size as everyone else.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Yes but that no doubt was retconned. The TT have travelled to Apokolips without a BT and they were the same size as everyone else.

IT wasn't retconned. Devilance Appears as a Giant in 52. People just dont' do thier homework and check on how big the new Gods actually are. in Earth Angel Supergirl, She was the size of an ant to the New Gods.

The real Darkseid is Superman's peer.
KMC Darkseid is Galactus peer.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Devilance Appears as a Giant in 52. People just dont' do thier homework and check on how big the new Gods actually are. DL was pretty big in 52, (MUCH larger than everyone else), but he was hardly so big that Planets were like marbles in comparison:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1001408/dl1.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001409/dl2.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001410/dl3.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001411/dl4.jpg




Did I also mention DL was decapitated by Lobo?

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1001412/dl5.jpg



Damn that was stupid.

Originally posted by Galan007
DL was pretty big in 52, (MUCH larger than everyone else), but he was hardly so big that Planets were like marbles in comparison:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1001408/dl1.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001409/dl2.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001410/dl3.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001411/dl4.jpg




Did I also mention DL was decapitated by Lobo?

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1001412/dl5.jpg



Damn that was stupid.

That is why I said people don't do thier homework on how big the New Gods actually are. People should literally appear as ants to the New Gods.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is why I said people don't do thier homework on how big the New Gods actually are. People should literally appear as ants to the New Gods.

Don't go dissing on Lobo.
He carries a "bad mother****er" wallet.

Originally posted by Juntai
Don't go dissing on Lobo.
He carries a "bad mother****er" wallet. True.

http://creativewaredesigns.com/walletsmall.jpg

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ideally yes, even Kirby said he was making Darkseid to be at Galactus's level

Kirby never said hungry level, so don't misquote.

Originally posted by Board Walker
Kirby never said hungry level, so don't misquote.

Exactly. Kirby didn't even have a distinction in Galactus's power lvls of hungry and full. To him. Big G had the power to consume planets and thus was powerful. Hunger had nothing to do with the actual power lvls.

Originally posted by Galan007
True.

http://creativewaredesigns.com/walletsmall.jpg






Best movie ever? Yes, I think so.

What Kirby intended Darkseid to be and what he actually is means nothing. Thanos was originally meant to be a copy of Darkseid but people will argue that isn't the case.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Thanos was originally meant to be a copy of Darkseid but people will argue that isn't the case. That's because...

Darkseid > Thanos

I thought Thanos was originally meant to be a copy of Metron but then he was changed to get more Darkseid - like attributes

Originally posted by Galan007
DL was pretty big in 52, (MUCH larger than everyone else), but he was hardly so big that Planets were like marbles in comparison:

http://i83.imagethrust.com/t/1001408/dl1.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001409/dl2.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001410/dl3.jpg http://i84.imagethrust.com/t/1001411/dl4.jpg



Which, of course, means nothing either way because this took place in the normal, mortal universe and thus Devilance would have used a Boom Tube to get there, which would have adjusted his size, which would be in keeping with that continuity.




Perhaps, but not as stupid as you might have others believe.

Lobo didn't actually decapitate Devilance. Devilance set off a trap that was meant to kill Lobo (who himself is basically unkillable, so that should tell us something) and was killed in the process.

Lobo simply used the parts.

Originally posted by Desaad
Devilance would have used a Boom Tube to get there, which would have adjusted his size, which would be in keeping with that continuity. I understand that.

You might take note that I didn't respond to your post with those scans.
Originally posted by Desaad
Lobo didn't actually decapitate Devilance. Devilance set off a trap that was meant to kill Lobo (who himself is basically unkillable, so that should tell us something) and was killed in the process.

Lobo simply used the parts. Again, I understand that.

Did I ever say otherwise?


I simply expressed my opinion regarding that particular story.

Originally posted by Galan007
I understand that.

You might take note that I didn't respond to your post with those scans.



You said that that bit had been retconned, and seemed to be saying that the Devilance appearance was in support of that. Later, someone even used that to say how continuity isn't respected, or something like that.

Ultimately, that showing has no bearing on that piece of continuity and, quite frankly, I don't think you'll find any showings that DO.

When did the Teen Titans travel to Apokolips sans Boom Tube, for instance?



Either you didn't understand that, or you purposely misled people into believing that Lobo is the one who defeated Devilance and hence "decapitated him".

It was the blast that decapitated him, indeed that blasted him to bits, and that had nothing to do with Lobo himself.




At the end, sure. Other parts of your post were presenting facts, and were not 100% accurate, so I gave my take on them.

Originally posted by Desaad
You said that that bit had been retconned, and seemed to be saying that the Devilance appearance was in support of that. Later, someone even used that to say how continuity isn't respected, or something like that. Did you even read the post I responded to?

If not you really should, because I didn't mention a retcon.

I only remarked that DL was large during 52, but not that large.

Originally posted by Desaad
It was the blast that decapitated him, indeed that blasted him to bits, and that had nothing to do with Lobo himself. I never said otherwise.

Originally posted by Desaad
At the end, sure. Other parts of your post were presenting facts, and were not 100% accurate, so I gave my take on them. The ending of that comic was stupid IMO because of how Lobo was riding off with DL's head.

That's all I commented on.