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im just wondering if hulk shouldnt be up there with the likes of surfer, thanos, drax (original) and the likes.

reasons i think hulk should be up there with the top tier characters.

Super Skrull is a cosmic character but all he's got going for him is the combined powers of the FF, with out prep i dont think the FF could take on many cosmic level threats could they? Hulk in a really pissed off mood could probably take out the FF, i mean he took out all the inhuman's till black bolt used his whisper.

Hulk is a planet buster, did he or did he not smash a meteor twice the size of earth with ONE PUNCH, who else is a planet buster, let see thanos, drax, champion of the universe (with gem) Another strengh feat is that hulk once dented ultron a robot of pure adimantium in secret wars.

Surfer is durable enough to take a blast from korvac that can destroy a planet, of course we know that he can destroy planets using his cosmic power, surfer i mean. Hasnt hulk shown uber high levels of durability in the past, didnt he become more durable then adimantium once when dealing with the meastros creations, even thanos was hurt when wolverine put his claws through him, and why should it be PIS, is adimantium like thee one of thee most durable metals in the MU, not saying that thanos or surfer could not destroy it using other powers but im talking about durability feats.

Surfer is a very TP resistent character from what ive heard, isnt Hulk extremly resistent as well, he's taken on the leader, and even combined mines and overcome them, if professor X was not depowered would he be able to passify the hulk, only a few people have been able to do that including sentry.

Its true what they say that superman can kick hulks butt at normal levels but does anyone really think that if hulk was pissed enough he couldnt bust supermans butt.

No...

For me cosmics have to be based in space.

for you cosmics have to be based in space what im basically asking is could hulk hang with the space fearing hero's and villains

Originally posted by Mider999
for you cosmics have to be based in space what im basically asking is could hulk hang with the space fearing hero's and villains

Nope, everybody in space can move ahellavalot faster than most things on Earth, he wouldn't be able to put his hands on alot of them if they really didn't want him to (Surfer, Runner, Superman etc.) and he's simply not versatile enough.

Originally posted by Mider999
im just wondering if hulk shouldnt be up there with the likes of surfer, thanos, drax (original) and the likes.

reasons i think hulk should be up there with the top tier characters.

Super Skrull is a cosmic character but all he's got going for him is the combined powers of the FF, with out prep i dont think the FF could take on many cosmic level threats could they? Hulk in a really pissed off mood could probably take out the FF, i mean he took out all the inhuman's till black bolt used his whisper.

Hulk is a planet buster, did he or did he not smash a meteor twice the size of earth with ONE PUNCH, who else is a planet buster, let see thanos, drax, champion of the universe (with gem) Another strengh feat is that hulk once dented ultron a robot of pure adimantium in secret wars.

Surfer is durable enough to take a blast from korvac that can destroy a planet, of course we know that he can destroy planets using his cosmic power, surfer i mean. Hasnt hulk shown uber high levels of durability in the past, didnt he become more durable then adimantium once when dealing with the meastros creations, even thanos was hurt when wolverine put his claws through him, and why should it be PIS, is adimantium like thee one of thee most durable metals in the MU, not saying that thanos or surfer could not destroy it using other powers but im talking about durability feats.

Surfer is a very TP resistent character from what ive heard, isnt Hulk extremly resistent as well, he's taken on the leader, and even combined mines and overcome them, if professor X was not depowered would he be able to passify the hulk, only a few people have been able to do that including sentry.

Its true what they say that superman can kick hulks butt at normal levels but does anyone really think that if hulk was pissed enough he couldnt bust supermans butt.

Also, don't degrade the Surfer. He's destroyed a solar system pre-upgrade, and has chilled in super nova's like they weren't a thing. The hulk doesn't belong in Marvel's cosmics.

yeah he also got controlled by a slug, is gonna have to fight black panther soon wow im so scared of the surfer, nobody is degrading him thanks. If he can destroy a solar system he should have destroyed thanos a long time ago

Originally posted by Mider999
yeah he also got controlled by a slug, is gonna have to fight black panther soon wow im so scared of the surfer, nobody is degrading him thanks. If he can destroy a solar system he should have destroyed thanos a long time ago

You.....Major dumbass?

can anyone tell me who won between surfer vs hulk in the recent planet hulk series

Hulk is teh cosmic embodiment of strength.

Originally posted by Mider999
can anyone tell me who won between surfer vs hulk in the recent planet hulk series

Neither won. The Surfer ceased hostilities and was then cheapshotted, stomped on, and was not even knocked out. The Surfer then freed all the gladiators.

Before the Surfer ceased hostilities, though, he was owning the Hulk and several other Gladiators simultaneously.

If he is, then Post Crisis Superman is a part of DC's cosmics, and ten times over, too.

Originally posted by Mider999
im just wondering if hulk shouldnt be up there with the likes of surfer, thanos, drax (original) and the likes.

reasons i think hulk should be up there with the top tier characters.

Super Skrull is a cosmic character but all he's got going for him is the combined powers of the FF, with out prep i dont think the FF could take on many cosmic level threats could they? Hulk in a really pissed off mood could probably take out the FF, i mean he took out all the inhuman's till black bolt used his whisper.

Hulk is a planet buster, did he or did he not smash a meteor twice the size of earth with ONE PUNCH, who else is a planet buster, let see thanos, drax, champion of the universe (with gem) Another strengh feat is that hulk once dented ultron a robot of pure adimantium in secret wars.

Surfer is durable enough to take a blast from korvac that can destroy a planet, of course we know that he can destroy planets using his cosmic power, surfer i mean. Hasnt hulk shown uber high levels of durability in the past, didnt he become more durable then adimantium once when dealing with the meastros creations, even thanos was hurt when wolverine put his claws through him, and why should it be PIS, is adimantium like thee one of thee most durable metals in the MU, not saying that thanos or surfer could not destroy it using other powers but im talking about durability feats.

Surfer is a very TP resistent character from what ive heard, isnt Hulk extremly resistent as well, he's taken on the leader, and even combined mines and overcome them, if professor X was not depowered would he be able to passify the hulk, only a few people have been able to do that including sentry.

Its true what they say that superman can kick hulks butt at normal levels but does anyone really think that if hulk was pissed enough he couldnt bust supermans butt. Stop comparing him to Thanos or Surfer!

Umm... what does the F4 have to do with anything? You just said without prep, they probably couldn't take out many cosmic beings, and now you're using it as an excuse for Hulk being cosmic?
I don't get it...

Hulk was shot out of a canon when he destroyed this asteroid... how soon we forget...
It wasn't strength, it was moreso duribility.

Wasn't the reason secondary adamantium was introduced, was because of Hulk?
The shit Thor was smashing hundreds of in the series where Ultron was stealing DNA to make the ultimate guy.

Hulk more durible than adamantium? Not even going to touch this, just point and laugh at it.

Thanos wasn't hurt when Wolvy stuck his claws in him, God only knows where you got that from. Plus, many disreguard that feat as pis...
Power Gem + Thanos = lower than this guy:
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/4033/87332623gq2.th.jpg http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/8753/60447343yj6.th.jpg


You know how many people are rresistent to telepathy? Why not just make Rogue a cosmic level now too?
The difference is, that Surfer took an attack from Moondragon with the Gem, and was only put down on his board for a second or two, and got right back up.
The same attack from Moondragon earlier, put Prof X in a coma.
Surfer's resistence>>>>>>>>>>>> etc, X's resistence.
Don't compare them.

No, Hulk can be as mad as he wants, and he still gets his ass tooled by Supes. It's called versitility... something Hulk will never achieve.

Hulk isn't cosmic, because like V said, cosmic revolves around space.
And hell, the reason you put up, still don't do it either.
You tried to get him on, f*ck if I know who's level, and he isn't.
Not Thanos, not Surfer, not Superman, etc, he's not cosmic, and he's not on a cosmic level.

Come on. Don't bullshit me.

i can compare him to surfer and thanos if you dont like it leave nobody makes you come to this thread, he should be more durable then thanos during certain pissed of moments and as strong.

Originally posted by Mider999
i can compare him to surfer and thanos if you dont like it leave nobody makes you come to this thread, he should be more durable then thanos during certain pissed of moments and as strong. I don't have to leave, nor do I feel like it.
Also, the reason why you shouldn't compare him, is because they aren't comparable.

As durible? Never! He'd be incredibly hard pressed to get near Surfer's level, let alone Thanos.

I really don't care about him being as strong, because no matter what I say, people will always say he is the strongest.

Your logic should have been switched around though, is what I'll say.

He is/never is as durible as Thanos. Dumb to say so.

Unless of course (yes), you have him taking attacks by Odin, and not moving.
Or, taking an attack by Surfer to no effect (Hulk has been KOed by a blast from Surfer, and that was him not even really trying).
Or, Tyrant.
Etc.

Originally posted by Mider999
i can compare him to surfer and thanos if you dont like it leave nobody makes you come to this thread, he should be more durable then thanos during certain pissed of moments and as strong.

arent comparable of course there not, hulk dont have as many fanboys like you behind him to give him those kinda feats.

Originally posted by Estacado
Originally posted by Estacado
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
sums it up pretty nicely.


please go jump into the path of rabid superman fans. kthnxbye.

Hulk makes short work of Strange...*cough*

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0704/10/hulkprologue2.htm

World War Hulk is going to be a joke.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hulk makes short work of Strange...*cough*

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0704/10/hulkprologue2.htm

World War Hulk is going to be a joke.
That's pure gold.

Hulk can't keep up with other cosmics unless they choose to fight him physically. Anyone at Surfer's level can simply just levitate the hulk away to get rid of him or throw him into some portal/dimension.

On comes the Hulk Hating....

they forget how chicken thanos was when he faught champion he did beat him up but he didnt want none of him, and he sure didnt want none of him later, kinda dumb cause surfer knocks champion out......awww more pis for your fav cosmics

No one is stronger than the Hulk....

i dont see how he can beat strange........im not gonna lie i dont see how he can...........but i heard strange was depowered recently or is depowered, just like x i suppose, would have been a good fight to see hulk overcome X's TP. Maybe he'll deal with some other uber psychic, i dont really want him to have cheap wins but straight up wins that are at least logical and show off his new powers, but yeah cheap shotting people is not one of those ways that i like.

Agreed.

Originally posted by Mider999
arent comparable of course there not, hulk dont have as many fanboys like you behind him to give him those kinda feats.

That's the stupidest thing you could possibly say. The Hulk is a really popular character. Close in line behind Spiderman and Wolverine. He likely has about ten times more fanboys than the Surfer and Thanos combined.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hulk makes short work of Strange...*cough*

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0704/10/hulkprologue2.htm

World War Hulk is going to be a joke.
Holy crap, that's sweet. You got the whole event done in one page with Hulk using Sentry's signature move.

Originally posted by Accel
Holy crap, that's sweet. You got the whole event done in one page with Hulk using Sentry's signature move.

That's disgusting.

I mean, it's not like Strange could...you know, teleport. Or stop time. Or mind**** the hulk. Or BFR the Hulk. Or just sic the god damned vishanti on him.

Meh, he'd probably end up punching them out too. Gah, such a wankfest.

Hulk smash puny magic.

Huc smash common sense

hulk more populare then thanos and surfer........i highly doubt that never seen him hurt them but i know he probably can in extreme cases of rage.

Originally posted by Mider999
they forget how chicken thanos was when he faught champion he did beat him up but he didnt want none of him, and he sure didnt want none of him later, kinda dumb cause surfer knocks champion out......awww more pis for your fav cosmics Don't give me that jive.

Well... did you know?
That that was before Thanos had even met Hulk.

Also, not to mention that, that contridicts all of Thanos's other showings, of him not being afraid of top level cosmic beings.

Also, of course, evidence.
He insults Hulk, when he has his own back turned.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7843/infintywars0434ft3.th.jpg



Hulk, and Earth heroes can't break the shield...
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6271/quasar3814of2.th.jpg

Thanos and Warlock do it in one shot.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7605/quasar3816zt8.th.jpg

What's the first thing he does?
Go after Hulk and Thing, insulting them.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/135/quasar3817ou3.th.jpg



Of course...
"Strange, lease your dog, or I will."
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/756/theend2km9.th.jpg

He is so scared of Hulk... he gets between him and Namor, and puts them both in bubbles they can't break out.
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9718/theend3qz2.th.jpg



This is quite interesting actually.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/9588/xha98p17fj8.th.jpg

The funny thing is... that he was actually planning on giving HULK POWER.
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3678/xha98p25mz4.th.jpg



Can't go out without this...
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5559/xha98p30qd1.th.jpg

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/5310/xha98p31pl9.th.jpg

Thanos is shitting his pants at the sheer mention of HULK!

Are you possibly going to use one showing, to try and blot out every other showing?
Good logic.

Also, don't call me a fanboy because I know Thanos is above Hulk.
I also said Surfer was way above him too, but I heard no mention of that being brought up...
Could it be because you're still bitter about Thanos, and anything that goes against you (about him), deserves for people to be called fanboys?
That's like me saying that Galactus is above Runner, and me getting called a fanboy...
Same logic goes for this.

Originally posted by Mider999
they forget how chicken thanos was when he faught champion he did beat him up but he didnt want none of him, and he sure didnt want none of him later, kinda dumb cause surfer knocks champion out......awww more pis for your fav cosmics
Really?
Thanos scared of Hulk?
I wonder what happened about 4-5 issues later.....
Oh wait.....I found it!
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4391/strength5dh3qg6.jpg

Oh, and Hulk is on Surfer's level?
Originally posted by darthgoober
I realize that you don't really NEED my help against that guy, but here's some stuff to support what your saying(Keep in mind, all of these fights where when Surfer was still weakened from being stranded on Earth).

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1381/story2page019nj.th.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2499/story2page022ms.th.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2509/story2page035ux.th.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8459/story2page040no.th.jpg
I realize that there's not a lot of action in that last scan, but please note in the upper left hand corner, it talks about Hulk regaining his strength several minutes later, and Surfer isn't really around. So what's that mean you ask? That shot with the surfboard knocked his ass the f*ck out!

Anyway, after Surfer saves Hulk from the army, Hulk decides to be a dumbass again, and attack him....

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1005/story2page066gb.th.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/6296/story2page072hi.th.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4455/story2page086ei.th.jpg
AND HE GOES DOWN AGAIN!

But this is the best one. It's by far the most accurate portrayal of a fight between the two that I've ever seen...
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8058/theincrediblehulkv225014mg.th.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8738/theincrediblehulkv225014wf.th.jpg


So yeah....

Silver Surfer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hulk.
That just sounds stupid no matter how you look at it...

this is possibbly the most unintresting, retarded thread posted. EVER.

Some nice fan made comics you guys have got there, I love the whole classic marvel look them SS ones have.

They need to stop writing strange like a wuss with an "im not using my powers because I stay above the fray" and start have him curb stomping people.

did i say thanos was afraid of hulk......no.......i said he didnt want none of CHAMPION with the power gem......so what are you talking about, or did you not see the fight with him and champion where he dodged all of champions attacks but in the end got the heck out of there after getting the gem, then when champion wanted a rematch thanos teleported him away not wanting to fight.

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
Oh, and Hulk is on Surfer's level?

That just sounds stupid no matter how you look at it...
I don't really see how staggering him with the board proves any thing. And Hulk getting knocked out by a fall is similar to how Spider-Man recently knocked him out with a truck.

'Course, Hulk did show he could take a blow from Karnak better than Surfer could.

Huc smash puny cosmics to dust

hulk haters are getting mad buahahahahahha

Hulk > Thanos > SS

(Thanos fears the hulk; he admitted it in his own series Thanos Quest;really embarassing...really really embarassing).

(Current Hulk beat SS---clear victory)

Hulk goes through an energy-draining portal created by the Shadow people of Sakaar. IH vol. 2 #92.
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/GreatPortal-2IH92a.jpg
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/GreatPortal-2IH92b.jpg

Compare to how the Silver Surfer handled passing through the same portal. IH vol. 2 #95
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/GreatPortal-2IH95.jpg

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
hulk haters are getting mad buahahahahahha

Hulk > Thanos > SS

(Thanos fears the hulk; he admitted it in his own series Thanos Quest;really embarassing...really really embarassing).

(Current Hulk beat SS---clear victory)
Originally posted by Estacado
Really?
Thanos scared of Hulk?
I wonder what happened about 4-5 issues later.....
Oh wait.....I found it!
http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/4391/strength5dh3qg6.jpg

http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/DURABILITY/GreatPortal-2IH95.jpg

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4989/surfer2ih95f0no.jpg


Hulk vs. Silver Surfer. (Both are weakened.) IH #95

Why don't you post the scans before?

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4989/surfer2ih95f0no.jpg


Hulk vs. Silver Surfer. (Both are weakened.) IH #95 how about you post what goes on before?

edit: dammit Juggs....

Originally posted by Mider999
im just wondering if hulk shouldnt be up there with the likes of surfer, thanos, drax (original) and the likes.

reasons i think hulk should be up there with the top tier characters.

Super Skrull is a cosmic character but all he's got going for him is the combined powers of the FF, with out prep i dont think the FF could take on many cosmic level threats could they? Hulk in a really pissed off mood could probably take out the FF, i mean he took out all the inhuman's till black bolt used his whisper.

Hulk is a planet buster, did he or did he not smash a meteor twice the size of earth with ONE PUNCH, who else is a planet buster, let see thanos, drax, champion of the universe (with gem) Another strengh feat is that hulk once dented ultron a robot of pure adimantium in secret wars.

Surfer is durable enough to take a blast from korvac that can destroy a planet, of course we know that he can destroy planets using his cosmic power, surfer i mean. Hasnt hulk shown uber high levels of durability in the past, didnt he become more durable then adimantium once when dealing with the meastros creations, even thanos was hurt when wolverine put his claws through him, and why should it be PIS, is adimantium like thee one of thee most durable metals in the MU, not saying that thanos or surfer could not destroy it using other powers but im talking about durability feats.

Surfer is a very TP resistent character from what ive heard, isnt Hulk extremly resistent as well, he's taken on the leader, and even combined mines and overcome them, if professor X was not depowered would he be able to passify the hulk, only a few people have been able to do that including sentry.

Its true what they say that superman can kick hulks butt at normal levels but does anyone really think that if hulk was pissed enough he couldnt bust supermans butt.


hulk has always been above marvel cosmics.

After WWH and Loeb series he will be above anyone in comics. Loeb said he wants to show the hulk is the strongest in ANY universe.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
hulk has always been above marvel cosmics.

After WWH and Loeb series he will be above anyone in comics. Loeb said he wants to show the hulk is the strongest in ANY universe.

that's it...i quit...

ignore listed.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
hulk has always been above marvel cosmics.

After WWH and Loeb series he will be above anyone in comics. Loeb said he wants to show the hulk is the strongest in ANY universe.
You're a ****ing retard.
Seriously.

Eternity= Living embodiment of Time and Space
Hulk = Living embodiment of Strength
Strength> Time and Space
nuff said

Originally posted by Priest
Eternity= Living embodiment of Time and Space
Hulk = Living embodiment of Strength
Strength> Time and Space
nuff said

ehi friend, i don't count abstracts and i think Loeb does not count them too

if you guys who are talking about hulk being above cosmics are being sarcastic.......thanks now stop it..........im just saying he should be able to hang with the cosmics not defeat thanos, but hang with him, maybe even be strong enough to beat surfer.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
i don't count abstracts and i think Loeb does not count them too
Oh i DO, he should be teh strongest in the Omiverse.

Originally posted by Priest
Oh i DO, he should be teh strongest in the Omiverse.

oh, sweet irony...he does not need to be above Living Tribunal to be above Darkseid

Current hulk is way stronger and powerful than darkseid and Thanos and that's what really counts now.

Originally posted by Mider999
if you guys who are talking about hulk being above cosmics are being sarcastic.......thanks now stop it..........im just saying he should be able to hang with the cosmics not defeat thanos, but hang with him, maybe even be strong enough to beat surfer.

he already beat Silver Surfer in #105 and if in the past SS had not use a trick, the hulk would have always beat him

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
he already beat Silver Surfer in #105 and if in the past SS had not use a trick, the hulk would have always beat him
You moron Surfer wasn't even attacking him and Hulk still couldn't KO a weakened Surfer.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
hulk has always been above marvel cosmics. lmao.

I like the Hulk; he's my 3rd favorite character. But he's not cosmic.

Cosmic beings are space beings with great power. Hulk's only got it half right.

Under some circumstances, it is conceivable he could hang with them, but he is not a being of space. He is very much a planet dweller, and that excludes him from the cosmic club.

For perspective, I really don't consider Superman (my #2) a cosmic being, either. He is certainly in a much better position to keep up with them than the Hulk is, but Kal El, too, is primarily a planet dweller. Home is four walls and a ceiling.

For a cosmic being, space is home.

Originally posted by DevilGoblin
hulk has always been above marvel cosmics.

After WWH and Loeb series he will be above anyone in comics. Loeb said he wants to show the hulk is the strongest in ANY universe. Oh, my...for the sweet love of sanity.

i dont think you have to be super strong to be a cosmic, super skrull is not even that strong and he's a cosmic, and from what ive read about nova he wasnt that impressive till annihilation came. Im just saying drax, thanos can smash planets, so can hulk, and not even thanos is harder then adimantium yet hulk has been more durable then it in the past, thats all im saying that on HIS REALLYYYYYYYYY GOOD SHOWINGS he's on part with some of the cosmic characters im not saying he's on par with them 24/7 maybe i didnt make that clear he's on par with them ONLY SOMETIMES.

Originally posted by Mider999
i dont think you have to be super strong to be a cosmic, super skrull is not even that strong and he's a cosmic, and from what ive read about nova he wasnt that impressive till annihilation came. Im just saying drax, thanos can smash planets, so can hulk, and not even thanos is harder then adimantium yet hulk has been more durable then it in the past, thats all im saying that on HIS REALLYYYYYYYYY GOOD SHOWINGS he's on part with some of the cosmic characters im not saying he's on par with them 24/7 maybe i didnt make that clear he's on par with them ONLY SOMETIMES.

seesh thank you what someone just put above me.......thats all i wanted to hear.