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Even black magazine "The Voice" recognises this to be the case.

I don't know, what do you think Boots?

Originally posted by Boots
Even black magazine "The Voice" recognises this to be the case.


Can you show any proof of this claim? If not, someone might think you are a raciest.

the fact that you purposely create some failed threads doesnt overshadow the fact that every thread you have ever created with high hopes has failed miserably and sunk to the bottom like a stone in a pond.

i love how you want to "fix" the forum with a plethora of new topics like "the official cheese connoisseur thread", (whatever the hell they are, i dont remember) and nonesense like that, then when that doesnt work you get pissy and think you're capable of destroying the forum.

really all the time you're just slightly amusing some and boring the rest.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/01/03/nmug103.xml

"Race is an added layer of complexity for the police. It has been recognised for some time - including in such quarters as The Voice, the leading black newspaper - that the majority of suspects in muggings in inner London boroughs are young black youths and men."

Originally posted by Boots
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/01/03/nmug103.xml

"Race is an added layer of complexity for the police. It has been recognised for some time - including in such quarters as The Voice, the leading black newspaper - that the majority of suspects in muggings in inner London boroughs are young black youths and men."

aye, this is a trend in many industrilized nations, in Canada we have problems with Natives to some degree

So what is your explination?

Originally posted by Boots
Even black magazine "The Voice" recognises this to be the case.

maybe b/c among certain blacks, they encourage each other more often, it's all in what's rehearsed in "group think mode", and if they are around blacks who tell them NO, stop it, and they hear it over and over, they won't find strength in numbers, but if they are around friends (black or otherwise) who encourage the behavior, they will feel jusified in doing so...in other words, there is more peer pressure to do that sort of thing in black culture, and the best way to fight it is with anti-peer pressure techniques.

Originally posted by inimalist
aye, this is a trend in many industrilized nations, in Canada we have problems with Natives to some degree

So what is your explination?

I don't have one, you have poor people of all races, why should one more than another resort to violence?

Originally posted by Boots
I don't have one, you have poor people of all races, why should one more than another resort to violence?


b/c it's encouraged in the peer group as cute or funny, and so, to fight it, someone has to deal with them mentally and let them know that it's not ok and it's not cute or funny, boundaries and property should be respected (just like with rape, that's a person's property, their body)...so the issue is teaching those kind of kids to have respect for their own persons as well as the respect of others. but it has to start with themselves first and away from the incorrigible mentality of their friends.

lol

If I knew, I'd be a millionaire

And probably be in line for a nobel peace prize

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
b/c it's encouraged in the peer group as cute or funny, and so, to fight it, someone has to deal with them mentally and let them know that it's not ok and it's not cute or funny, boundaries and property should be respected (just like with rape, that's a person's property, their body)...so the issue is teaching those kind of kids to have respect for their own persons as well as the respect of others. but it has to start with themselves first and away from the incorrigible mentality of their friends.

do you think more black men are rapists?

Originally posted by inimalist
aye, this is a trend in many industrilized nations, in Canada we have problems with Natives to some degree


What kind of problems do the natives present?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you show any proof of this claim? If not, someone might think you are a raciest. he is a national socialist

Originally posted by Boots

What kind of problems do the natives present?

higher crime rates
higher addiction rates
higher arrest rates
lower income rate
poor housing/living conditions

Its really complex, but the best way to look at it is that in Canada (very generalized) Natives are our blacks.

We do have issues with gang violence in cities like Toronto or Montreal, and often that is attributed to "blacks" though for the most part they fall into the same categories I listed above.

Its tragic really

Originally posted by TRH
he is a national socialist

so, hear him out

he has touched on a major issue in the first world.

Why do our minorities end up so bad compared to the majority?

Clearly it isn't as open and shut as that, but there are huge discrepencies that probably do warrant some discussion

And he hasn't said anything too overtly racist yet

Originally posted by inimalist
higher crime rates
higher addiction rates
higher arrest rates
lower income rate
poor housing/living conditions

Its really complex, but the best way to look at it is that in Canada (very generalized) Natives are our blacks.

We do have issues with gang violence in cities like Toronto or Montreal, and often that is attributed to "blacks" though for the most part they fall into the same categories I listed above.

Its tragic really

Interesting, do you think a multi racial society works then?

Originally posted by inimalist
so, hear him out

he has touched on a major issue in the first world.

Why do our minorities end up so bad compared to the majority?

Clearly it isn't as open and shut as that, but there are huge discrepencies that probably do warrant some discussion

And he hasn't said anything too overtly racist yet

Thank you.

Originally posted by inimalist
lower income rate
poor housing/living conditions


Two important items to note.

They have nothing to lose by commiting crimes, not in their mind really, white, black, native, pink whatever.

Originally posted by Soleran
Two important items to note.

They have nothing to lose by commiting crimes, not in their mind really, white, black, native, pink whatever.

Interesting.....

So it's in your opinions that more black people are poor per capita than white people. Does this make a case for positive discrimination, where we do away with a meritocracy?

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
b/c it's encouraged in the peer group as cute or funny, and so, to fight it, someone has to deal with them mentally and let them know that it's not ok and it's not cute or funny, boundaries and property should be respected (just like with rape, that's a person's property, their body)...so the issue is teaching those kind of kids to have respect for their own persons as well as the respect of others. but it has to start with themselves first and away from the incorrigible mentality of their friends. OMG for once you didn't sound like a raciest you didn't say n#gger you made sense omg...... i don't know what to say maybe there is hope for you yet

Originally posted by Boots
Interesting, do you think a multi racial society works then?

wow

thats a loaded question...

ummm, I'm not necessarily a supporter of what we call in canada "Multi-culturalism" but that is more of a nit pick against Canadian government policy and what "culture" has come to mean up here.

I think, if it was possible to erase all history and ideology, we could probably create a society where people didn't just hate eachother and there were equal opportunities between people. I also think in that society there would be a much more evenly distributed ratio of rich to poor over racial comparisons.

I don't think there are any real differences between people on a behavioural level accross race, or at least nothing of any real signifigance, however, I don't think we will ever breed out "discrimination" or "prejudice". I do subscribe to a belief that holds racism is based on several evolutionary and biological phenomina, that were at some point beneficial to the survival of our species, if they are compleatly counter productive today

The thread title evokes an image which is entirely inaccurate.

Why not ask the question the other way around? It;s just as relevant.

"Why are most VICTIMS of muggers in London black?"

Originally posted by inimalist
I do subscribe to a belief that holds racism is based on several evolutionary and biological phenomina, that were at some point beneficial to the survival of our species, if they are compleatly counter productive today

What do you mean?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The thread title evokes an image which is entirely inaccurate.

Why not ask the question the other way around? It;s just as relevant.

"Why are most VICTIMS of muggers in London black?"

That would be another thread though wouldn't it? Ja?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The thread title evokes an image which is entirely inaccurate.

Why not ask the question the other way around? It;s just as relevant.

"Why are most VICTIMS of muggers in London black?"

It is connected with the basic issue of problems minorities and immigrants have in adapting to Western Society, isn`t it?

Originally posted by inimalist
higher crime rates
higher addiction rates
higher arrest rates
lower income rate
poor housing/living conditions

Its really complex, but the best way to look at it is that in Canada (very generalized) Natives are our blacks.

We do have issues with gang violence in cities like Toronto or Montreal, and often that is attributed to "blacks" though for the most part they fall into the same categories I listed above.

Its tragic really YOU!!! white people owe the natives. YOU!! whites payed/ helped build the stupid lil jews back up do it for the natives. what makes the fcking jews story any sadder then the natives history. they got it worst from all fronts. help then make higher incomes,give them better living conditions. YOU!! whites gave the pissy jews their own fcking country how about you give the natives back their country

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
It is connected with the basic issue of problems minorities and immigrants have in adapting to Western Society, isn`t it?


Why is that?

No it would not. EXACTLY the same issue, but put forward in a way that is not emotional manipulation; your way was trying to create an image of good upright caucasians being overwhelmed by street crime caused by blacks, which is entirely untrue.

What we have here, in fact, is a section of society that has become self-destructive mainly due to economic factors and the relation of race to organised crime worldwide (e.g. the crack transit into the UK is from Jamaica, and hence tends to surface first in the section of society most culkturally akin to Jamaica as that is where business gets done first)

Originally posted by mighty adam
YOU!!! white people owe the natives. YOU!! whites payed/ helped build the stupid lil jews back up do it for the natives. what makes the fcking jews story any sadder the natives got it worst from all fronts. help then make higher incomes,give them better living conditions. YOU!! whites gave the pissy jews their own fcking country how about you give the natives back their country

I don't understand your post. Sorry.

Originally posted by mighty adam
YOU!!! white people owe the natives. YOU!! whites payed/ helped build the stupid lil jews back up do it for the natives. what makes the fcking jews story any sadder the natives got it worst from all fronts. help then make higher incomes,give them better living conditions. YOU!! whites gave the pissy jews their own fcking country how about you give the natives back their country

Cut out the flaming and bad language right now.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No it would not. EXACTLY the same issue, but put forward in a way that is not emotional manipulation, trying to create an image of good upright caucasians being overwhelmed by street crime caused by blacks, which is entirely untrue.



I have to disagree that's what the thread title does or it's the same issue if given that title.

Originally posted by Ushgarak

What we have here, in fact, is a section of society that has become self-destructive mainly due to economic factors and the relation of race to organised crime worldwide (e.g. the crack transit into the UK is from Jamaica, and hence tends to surface first in the section of society most culkturally akin to Jamaica as that is where business gets done first)

Have you any evidence to back this statement up?

I don't care what you disagree with, it;s exactly what you are doing, taking it from a fundamentally biased perspective, and if you cannot see it then it is either because you are doing it on purpose or because you are an idiot.

Coming from someone who does not use any supporting evidence whatsoever that's a bit rich. But let's be clear here. The fact that the high rate of black crime is mainly perpetrated on OTHER blacks is a fact, as related to in the links you provided, and this destroys the imagery you are trying to create so clumsily.

It's an economic issue being compounded by cultural influence.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
What we have here, in fact, is a section of society that has become self-destructive mainly due to economic factors and the relation of race to organised crime worldwide (e.g. the crack transit into the UK is from Jamaica, and hence tends to surface first in the section of society most culkturally akin to Jamaica as that is where business gets done first)

Do you think that proper goverment policy could positively affect thos economic factors? Poverty and lack of education are problems that often pass between generations, so much effort is needed.

Huge amounts of problems would disappar if poverty were to be eradicated, but once drugs are into the issue it becomes close to impossible, really. So history has tended to show so far. The incentive to try and take part in socity has never really been strong enough.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Cut out the flaming and bad language right now. why look in the i was called a n#gger thread. some lil whore was down talking blacks for many pages now just couse i have showed my dislike for jews/ SOME whites i have to stop yeah get that shit out my face.

Originally posted by mighty adam
YOU!!! white people owe the natives. YOU!! whites payed/ helped build the stupid lil jews back up do it for the natives. what makes the fcking jews story any sadder then the natives history. they got it worst from all fronts. help then make higher incomes,give them better living conditions. YOU!! whites gave the pissy jews their own fcking country how about you give the natives back their country

Originally posted by Boots
do you think more black men are rapists?



What kind of problems do the natives present?


Well, i think that it occurs more often among blacks and black females don't talk about it. I feel it's really about the mind, and how a person is raised, if he is raised to respect his own body and the rights of others, and has friends who encourage this thinking, he won't rape, if he is raised by a group of peers who think it's funny or cute, he may do it as a way to fit in, i think "fitting in" is the biggest issue among black culture, the thug way of life is to do certain things to fit in. Now we all know that most blacks aren't this way, but certain aspects of that mentality does sneak into the main stream of our society as a whole.

mighty adam, that's now an official warning. Again and it is a ban.

But if poverty is mixed with certain amount of cultural alienation..... I think that the most important thing is still education, so at least some of people from those minority groups with issues can avoid the fate of their parents.

Also the fact that certain groups have negative images in wider society is a source of problem- it makes those people frustrated and their react with agression and extremism, and as a consequence stereotype is enforced, though it may be more of an issue with some Muslims in Europe. For example I have heard that in countries like France having an Arab-sounding surname significantly lowers your chances of getting a good job.

France has a serious race issue problem indeed.

In fact, for ALL the race problems the UK has- and I am not denying the severeness of any of it- it's mild compared to a lot of western nations, and minute compared to that in the US.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I don't care what you disagree with, it;s exactly what you are doing, taking it from a fundamentally biased perspective, and if you cannot see it then it is either because you are doing it on purpose or because you are an idiot.


Well I still disagree anyway as is my right. Is idiot the same as Bullen melken?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Coming from someone who does not use any supporting evidence whatsoever that's a bit rich. But let's be clear here. The fact that the high rate of black crime is mainly perpetrated on OTHER blacks is a fact, as related to in the links you provided, and this destroys the imagery you are trying to create so clumsily.

It's an economic issue being compounded by cultural influence.

I have offered no opinion so i don't require evidence. You have offered an opinion. So do you have some evidence? Or is it your opinion? Just to clarify.

Your presumption for the thread is not evidenced, so don't play that silly game.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
France has a serious race issue problem indeed.

In fact, for ALL the race problems the UK has- and I am not denying the severeness of any of it- it's mild compared to a lot of western nations, and minute compared to that in the US.

Do you have per capita stats within inner cities to back this up? This is a very general statement, what do you mean?

......... look at these forums its so one sided its sick i don't think i even want to be here much longer.

You could always get of your ass and do a tiny bit of research yourself, you know. For example, go and look at the differing rates and scale of race-releated riots between the UK, US and France.

Meanwhile, I am actually having an intelligent conversation with another poster who does not make anal demands every few seconds. You're not impressing anyone.

Originally posted by mighty adam
......... look at these forums its so one sided its sick i don't think i even want to be here much longer.

which side would that be?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Your presumption for the thread is not evidenced, so don't play that silly game.

I at least gave a news report with statistical evidence from the Daily Telegraph. Later in the thread that gave figures.

Interestingly 62% of rapes in London have black or Pakistani suspects and 59% of those alledging the attacks are white to extend the discussion. According to the BBC in 2004.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/3397433.stm

Is this still all about money and crack?

Originally posted by Schecter
which side would that be? raciest against ethnic people its sad i really can't care what happens with this forums from this point on

Originally posted by Ushgarak
You could always get of your ass and do a tiny bit of research yourself, you know. For example, go and look at the differing rates and scale of race-releated riots between the UK, US and France.


Riots are only one indicator of problems. England has had riots but they will always be less pronounced in England due to the nature of the structure and demography of English cities. They are not a true indicator of anything except the societies structure is less able to control a populace.

You linked to a news report that simply re-iterated the same thing you said,m and which in turn quoted a third publication that mentioned the same thing you said; quite aside from it not being primary evidence in any case, none of the statistics offered actually helped support your basic statement.

It does not meet the criteria of evidence at all. So as I say, don't play that silly game with me; I really don't care about your trivial attempts to cause trouble.

Originally posted by mighty adam
raciest against ethnic people its sad i really can't care what happens with this forums from this point on

funny, since i only see 3 members with racially motivated thread posting trends. perhaps you are allowing a couple of parrots to speak for the majority? all it takes is one person, in fact, to spam a forum with a blatantly racist theme. i hardly see that as a means to damn everyone, or even anyone besides those individuals.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
You linked to a news report that simply re-iterated the same thing you said,m and which in turn quoted a third publication that mentioned the same thing you said; quite aside from it not being primary evidence in any case, none of the statistics offered actually helped support your basic statement.

It does not meet the criteria of evidence at all. So as I say, don't play that silly game with me; I really don't care about your trivial attempts to cause trouble.

Whose trying to cause trouble. Don't you see the BBC as reputable?

Originally posted by mighty adam
raciest against ethnic people its sad i really can't care what happens with this forums from this point on

Who has said something racist?

Originally posted by Boots
Who has said something racist?

http://images.killermovies.com/forums/user_sigs/8/5/customsig_107185_hT.gif


see??
BRING IT BACK!!!! IT WAS PERFECT!!!!

Originally posted by Boots
Who has said something racist? never mind its been fixed Ushgarak sorry man.

Originally posted by mighty adam
never mind its been fixed Ushgarak sorry man.

O.K.

Originally posted by Schecter
http://images.killermovies.com/forums/user_sigs/8/5/customsig_107185_hT.gif


see??
BRING IT BACK!!!! IT WAS PERFECT!!!!

The Ramship Enterprise was brought back with Patrick Stewart. I was never a fan. It's big in Germany though.

Originally posted by Schecter
funny, since i only see 3 members with racially motivated thread posting trends. perhaps you are allowing a couple of parrots to speak for the majority? all it takes is one person, in fact, to spam a forum with a blatantly racist theme. i hardly see that as a means to damn everyone, or even anyone besides those individuals.

Yeah, what he said, thought everyone knew that.

chair

So do you have any ideas how to help with those issues, Ush? Certainly every minority has to feel accepted and respected, but the contrary argument is often the lack of will to try to fit and accept the Western values. Personally I am in favor of "soft" measures, like social programs to help young people from minorities gain education and find a job, though the effort has to be made so those money are not wasted. I am not sure about measures based on punishment and restrictions, like harsh law and making heavy use of police- such methods should be kept to mare minimum. For example I don`t think that restricting the freedom of muslim female students in France to wear traditional clothes is a good idea- there is nothing actually harmful in those customs, and it seems to be only a unnecessary manifestation of strenght from the goverment.

Originally posted by Boots

Is this still all about money and crack?

Why o why do people never ever use application to gain knowledge?

Czarina talks a lot about the mentality of blacks. The part of her rants about surroundings has some validity but her version is quite extreme: You are what is around you.

Stuff like this is an issue of society. If you want to quote stats, then look this up:

- Poor areas have more crime.

- Poor people commit more crimes.

See where I'm going with this?

All of these things affect plenty of shit we take for granted and that makes it a societal problem rather that just an issue of a race. This is all nations of the world, but it is even more of a joke in capitalist democracies.

I think someone else can take it from here. I have other posts to make

Originally posted by chithappens
Why o why do people never ever use application to gain knowledge?

Czarina talks a lot about the mentality of blacks. The part of her rants about surroundings has some validity but her version is quite extreme: You are what is around you.

Stuff like this is an issue of society. If you want to quote stats, then look this up:

- Poor areas have more crime.

- Poor people commit more crimes.

See where I'm going with this?

All of these things affect plenty of shit we take for granted and that makes it a societal problem rather that just an issue of a race. This is all nations of the world, but it is even more of a joke in capitalist democracies.

I think someone else can take it from here. I have other posts to make



So What are you saying?

Originally posted by Ushgarak the relation of race to organised crime worldwide (e.g. the crack transit into the UK is from Jamaica, and hence tends to surface first in the section of society most culkturally akin to Jamaica as that is where business gets done first)

So crime is race orientated?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The thread title evokes an image which is entirely inaccurate.

Why not ask the question the other way around? It;s just as relevant.

"Why are most VICTIMS of muggers in London black?"

Wow, I totally didn't know that....

is that from a legit source?

Originally posted by mighty adam
YOU!!! white people owe the natives. YOU!! whites payed/ helped build the stupid lil jews back up do it for the natives. what makes the fcking jews story any sadder the natives got it worst from all fronts. help then make higher incomes,give them better living conditions. YOU!! whites gave the pissy jews their own fcking country how about you give the natives back their country

wow, all I said was that it is tragic that natives have lower social economic status. You need to chill out.

Originally posted by inimalist

wow, all I said was that it is tragic that natives have lower social economic status. You need to chill out.

I'm not sure he knows much about Native Americans but they have certainly been ****ed more than anyone in the last era of history, I think.

Originally posted by chithappens
I'm not sure he knows much about Native Americans but they have certainly been ****ed more than anyone in the last era of history, I think.

aye

If i had seen that the mod had already dealt with that I would have never posted the response. Damn, I'm getting behind again....

gotta stop doing important things while I am arguing on the internet. Priorities!!!

Originally posted by inimalist
so, hear him out

he has touched on a major issue in the first world.

Why do our minorities end up so bad compared to the majority?

Clearly it isn't as open and shut as that, but there are huge discrepencies that probably do warrant some discussion

And he hasn't said anything too overtly racist yet i don't hear out criminals

Originally posted by TRH
i don't hear out criminals

Sigh, every person is a potential criminal. Robbing men to give ransom for my children would be a crime. Me saving a woman from being beaten by her father in Pakistan in a crime.

That's a very simple statement with holes all about.

Originally posted by Boots
What do you mean?

First, before I respond, let me say that this is NOT science. It is a hypothesis for the origins of certain human characteristics, but it is by no means absolute or not subject to change.

Generally though, humans are very unique from other animals in many ways. One of the specific ways is, given how physically different people of other races look, it is amazing that whites and blacks are able to interbreed with eachother.

Let me get a little more in depth, because that statement does sound a little off. If we look at birds, there are many that look very similar physically, though they are incapable of interbreeding. In most animals, this is the case. It is the internal genetics that vary more between species, not very apparent racial distinctions that humans see.

So, then the question must become, why do we have races that are so genetically similar that there is more variance within racial groups than between them, yet are so apparently different that race can be discerned from only viewing the silhouette of someone. In fact, racial categories are almost unamimously held accross cultures.

The reason that is proposed is this: Tribalism became advantageous to the survival of human genes, and kinship became very strong. These ties lead to a greater reproductive rate for those who were more attracted to and nicer to those they shared the most physical characteristics with them. This is basically a further adaptation of something called "kin based altrusim" which is seen in some other higher functioning animals.

There is also the fact that our brains have evolved to put like things into categories called "schemata" that allow us to react similarily in similar situations. Racial steryotyping can probably be seen as a very advanced form of this mechanism. By advanced i mean dealing with higher order issues like race and prejudice, not beneficial by any means.

Originally posted by TRH
i don't hear out criminals


?

Originally posted by chithappens
Sigh, every person is a potential criminal. Robbing men to give ransom for my children would be a crime. Me saving a woman from being beaten by her father in Pakistan in a crime.

That's a very simple statement with holes all about. in germany thats a crime racism,nazism

Originally posted by TRH
i don't hear out criminals

that makes your prejudice here more volitile than his

clearly boots holds white supremist ideals, however, to not be willing to engage in civil discourse with him for that single reason is terrible

If he starts calling people ******* and heebs, then ya, I'm with you

oh, and freedom of speech

Saying something is NEVER criminal, no matter how hurtful or offensive

As ridiculous as it sounds, I would defend to my death the right for nazis to slander jews

Originally posted by inimalist
First, before I respond, let me say that this is NOT science. It is a hypothesis for the origins of certain human characteristics, but it is by no means absolute or not subject to change.

Generally though, humans are very unique from other animals in many ways. One of the specific ways is, given how physically different people of other races look, it is amazing that whites and blacks are able to interbreed with eachother.

Let me get a little more in depth, because that statement does sound a little off. If we look at birds, there are many that look very similar physically, though they are incapable of interbreeding. In most animals, this is the case. It is the internal genetics that vary more between species, not very apparent racial distinctions that humans see.

So, then the question must become, why do we have races that are so genetically similar that there is more variance within racial groups than between them, yet are so apparently different that race can be discerned from only viewing the silhouette of someone. In fact, racial categories are almost unamimously held accross cultures.

The reason that is proposed is this: Tribalism became advantageous to the survival of human genes, and kinship became very strong. These ties lead to a greater reproductive rate for those who were more attracted to and nicer to those they shared the most physical characteristics with them. This is basically a further adaptation of something called "kin based altrusim" which is seen in some other higher functioning animals.

There is also the fact that our brains have evolved to put like things into categories called "schemata" that allow us to react similarily in similar situations. Racial steryotyping can probably be seen as a very advanced form of this mechanism. By advanced i mean dealing with higher order issues like race and prejudice, not beneficial by any means.

Interestingly you are as likely to share as many genese with an inuit as you are with someone who shares your phenotype.

Originally posted by TRH
in germany thats a crime racism,nazism

good justification for your hatred

Originally posted by inimalist

clearly boots holds white supremist ideals,


? Why?

Originally posted by inimalist
that makes your prejudice here more volitile than his

clearly boots holds white supremist ideals, however, to not be willing to engage in civil discourse with him for that single reason is terrible

If he starts calling people ******* and heebs, then ya, I'm with you

oh, and freedom of speech

Saying something is NEVER criminal, no matter how hurtful or offensive

As ridiculous as it sounds, I would defend to my death the right for nazis to slander jews nazism is a crime in germany,nobody cares about freedom of speach due to our past history were some people killed people....oh wait they were nazi oh yeah thats right

Originally posted by Boots
Interestingly you are as likely to share as many genese with an inuit as you are with someone who shares your phenotype.

i know

its really weird

this race thing is so complex

Originally posted by inimalist
good justification for your hatred i dont hate him

Originally posted by TRH
nazism is a crime in germany,nobody cares about freedom of speach due to our past history were some people killed people....oh wait they were nazi oh yeah thats right

You're confused.

I don`t think that real life version of Boots is trully a Nazi, to be honest.

Originally posted by Boots
? Why?

if im wrong i appologize

I had got that impression from some of what you had implied, but I'm not judging

Originally posted by TRH
i dont hate him

Well you seem angry.

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
I don`t think that real life version of Boots is trully a Nzai, to be honest. elaborate

Originally posted by inimalist
if im wrong i appologize




Originally posted by inimalist


I had got that impression from some of what you had implied, but I'm not judging



Where?

Originally posted by inimalist

I try not to judge this type of thing...


O.K.

Originally posted by Boots
Well you seem angry. a little,but that does not imply hate

Originally posted by TRH
a little

Why? Show me what i have said that is racist.

Originally posted by TRH
nazism is a crime in germany,nobody cares about freedom of speach due to our past history were some people killed people....oh wait they were nazi oh yeah thats right

Ummm, lots of people care about freedom of speech, thankfully I am in a country where I can ask questions without fear of someone arresting me

gee, you guys must have really dropped that whole fascism angle

Originally posted by TRH
i dont hate him

ok

replace hate with "unwillingness to exist civilly and interact with"

either way you slice it, it is discrimination

Originally posted by TRH
elaborate

He is just trying to cause controversies, note how he doesn`t state his own beliefs. True Nazis I have met online don`t behave like this.

Originally posted by inimalist
Ummm, lots of people care about freedom of speech, thankfully I am in a country where I can ask questions without fear of someone arresting me

gee, you guys must have really dropped that whole fascism angle



ok

replace hate with "unwillingness to exist civilly and interact with"

either way you slice it, it is discrimination I live in US but im a Sual German-American Citizen

Originally posted by Boots
Where?


honestly, probably from just the way people interact with you or the predominance of racial issues you weigh in on

but you are right, i shouldnt make that assumption, its a terrible thing to say to someone

I am sorry

Originally posted by inimalist
Ummm, lots of people care about freedom of speech, thankfully I am in a country where I can ask questions without fear of someone arresting me

gee, you guys must have really dropped that whole fascism angle



ok

replace hate with "unwillingness to exist civilly and interact with"

either way you slice it, it is discrimination you cant get arrested unless u use a threat

Originally posted by TRH
I live in US but im a Sual German-American Citizen

well

the country you live in has time after time supported the free speech of nazis....


so its not a crime where you live

and wouldnt knowledge of Nazi germany show you why the LAW is not what is MORAL or RIGHT

Originally posted by inimalist
honestly, probably from just the way people interact with you


Isn't it their problem then?

Originally posted by inimalist
but you are right, i shouldnt make that assumption, its a terrible thing to say to someone


It is.

Originally posted by inimalist


I am sorry

You really have no need.

Originally posted by TRH
you cant get arrested unless u use a threat

its a little more complicated than that

I know that in canada there are much stronger laws against trying to promote hatred against an identifiable group

but ya, im with you, i dont think people should be threatening others, that is assualt imho

Originally posted by inimalist
well

the country you live in has time after time supported the free speech of nazis....


so its not a crime where you live

and wouldnt knowledge of Nazi germany show you why the LAW is not what is MORAL or RIGHT what

How did this thread get to 5 pages? Surely a moderator has passed through in the time it takes for a thread to get to 5 pages.

Moderator Ushgarak was participating in this thread himself. Such issues can be valid topic for CIVIL discussion.

Originally posted by Devil King
How did this thread get to 5 pages? Surely a moderator has passed through in the time it takes for a thread to get to 5 pages.

Originally posted by Ushgarak


Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Moderator Ushgarak was participating in this thread himself. Such issues can be valid topic for CIVIL discussion.


Ja

I'd quote myself if I thought it would do any good.

Originally posted by Devil King
I'd quote myself if I thought it would do any good.

Was? Ushgarak seems an O.K. moderator. What are you getting at?

Ushgarak is EXCELLENT moderator Boots, most likely the best on those boards.

But have you forgotten that he has been giving you warnings recently? Though not for this thread. You are playing a dangerous game.

Originally posted by Boots
Was? Ushgarak seems an O.K. moderator. What are you getting at?

Yeah, I'm calling Ush a shitty moderator. Don't attempt to play games with me or put words in my mouth.

This is a retarded thread. It should be closed.

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Ushgarak is EXCELLENT moderator Boots, most likely the best on those boards.

But have you forgotten that he has been giving you warnings recently? Though not for this thread. You are playing a dangerous game. You should wipe that white stuff off your lips now.

Originally posted by Devil King
Yeah, I'm calling Ush a shitty moderator. Don't attempt to play games with me or put words in my mouth.

This is a retarded thread. It should be closed.

What would your reply to Dawkin's theory of biological disposition toward prejudice then?

clearly if its a retarted thread you have the science that will refute what we were talking about

i understand the decision to not ban the troll. (its completely pointless and only amuses him,
which is why i often respond to whirly with "not reported" which btw is the truth)
however i dont understand the decision to leave these threads open.

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Ushgarak is EXCELLENT moderator Boots, most likely the best on those boards.

But have you forgotten that he has been giving you warnings recently? Though not for this thread. You are playing a dangerous game.

In what sense I thought that guy was implying after you posted that Ushgarak was not a good mod. Am I wrong?

Originally posted by Devil King
Yeah, I'm calling Ush a shitty moderator.

So I was right!

Originally posted by Devil King
How did this thread get to 5 pages? Surely a moderator has passed through in the time it takes for a thread to get to 5 pages. Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Moderator Ushgarak was participating in this thread himself. Such issues can be valid topic for CIVIL discussion. Originally posted by Devil King
I'd quote myself if I thought it would do any good.

Originally posted by Devil King
Yeah, I'm calling Ush a shitty moderator.

No game Lord Melkor I was just highlighting these comments.

Oh just shut up Boots, I was actually having a good discussion in this thread. And now you are playing games.

Originally posted by inimalist
What would your reply to Dawkin's theory of biological disposition toward prejudice then?

clearly if its a retarted thread you have the science that will refute what we were talking about

Why do I need scientific theory to make my point? You're the one getting techinical in a thread, created by a sock, created to mock and you're getting technical about it?

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
Oh just shut up Boots, I was actually having a good discussion in this thread. And now you are playing games.

I honestly am not.

Originally posted by Devil King
Why do I need scientific theory to make my point? You're the one getting techinical in a thread, created by a sock, created to mock and you're getting technical about it?

Was?

Sock and Mock?

You are engaging in witty remarks instead of discussion relevant to this thread.

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
You are engaging in witty remarks instead of discussion relevant to this thread.

witty? seriously?

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
You are engaging in witty remarks instead of discussion relevant to this thread.

O.K. I'll ignore the trolls.

Well, at least supposed to be witty.

It isn`t like the standard of this forum is high nowadays.

Originally posted by Lord Melkor
It isn`t like the standard of this forum is high nowadays. i don't know about this forum before but Ja, I agree it's awful now.

Originally posted by Boots
i don't know about this forum before but Ja, I agree it's awful now.

Coming from you? Odd

Originally posted by chithappens
Coming from you? Odd

those damn londoners...those damn black londoners...those damn black londoner muggerers....damn them...DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL

Originally posted by jaden101
those damn londoners...those damn black londoners...those damn black londoner muggerers....damn them...DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL

Do you believe in hell?

close it. please close it

Originally posted by Boots
Do you believe in hell?

its where the blacks go isn't it?....damn blacks....damn muggeruggerersers

Originally posted by jaden101
its where the blacks go isn't it?

Is it? Tell me more.

Originally posted by Boots
Is it? Tell me more.

i have no idea...

http://www.fahad.com/pics/hell.jpg

i went the other way you see...although old neighbours Mr and Mrs Black went that way...i never did see them again...nice couple...her maiden name was Kingston before she married Mr Black

Originally posted by Boots
I at least gave a news report with statistical evidence from the Daily Telegraph. Later in the thread that gave figures.

Interestingly 62% of rapes in London have black or Pakistani suspects and 59% of those alledging the attacks are white to extend the discussion. According to the BBC in 2004.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/3397433.stm

Is this still all about money and crack?

So, what do you suggest we do with these 'Black' parasites? Should we kill all of them to ensure that 20 out of a hundred won't infiltrate the utopias of White America, or London?

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
So, what do you suggest we do with these 'Black' parasites? Should we kill all of them to ensure that 20 out of a hundred won't infiltrate the utopias of White America, or London?

That's your suggestion not mine and I never called anyone a parasite, you did.

Originally posted by jaden101
i have no idea...

http://www.fahad.com/pics/hell.jpg

i went the other way you see...although old neighbours Mr and Mrs Black went that way...i never did see them again...nice couple...her maiden name was Kingston before she married Mr Black

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
So, what do you suggest we do with these 'Black' parasites? Should we kill all of them to ensure that 20 out of a hundred won't infiltrate the utopias of White America, or London? well,i hate to defend a nazi but he didnt say that

Originally posted by Boots
That's your suggestion not mine and I never called anyone a parasite, you did.


Oh, I'm sure that's what you're getting at.

Originally posted by TRH
well,i hate to defend a nazi but he didnt say that

You're the one who said I was a nazi though.

Originally posted by Grinning Goku
Oh, I'm sure that's what you're getting at.

What are you sure i'm getting at and why?

new thread: "are gypsy's thieves and crooks?"

thread opening: i dont believe that they are, but then again i dont really know. its just what i heard.
anyone have any input on this? *innocent stare*

Originally posted by Schecter
new thread: "are gypsy's thieves and crooks?"

thread opening: i dont believe that they are, but then again i dont really know. its just what i heard.
anyone have any input on this? *innocent stare*

As I don't know any either i can't comment. Please open your thread though I would be interested to watch what people say.

Originally posted by Schecter
new thread: "are gypsy's thieves and crooks?"

thread opening: i dont believe that they are, but then again i dont really know. its just what i heard.
anyone have any input on this? *innocent stare*

i heard that as well...damn gypsy's...at least they dont have computers to come on here and stick up for themselves so we can insult them and its ok...

Originally posted by jaden101
i heard that as well...damn gypsy's...at least they dont have computers to come on here and stick up for themselves so we can insult them and its ok...

Do these Gypsies mug people as well?

Originally posted by Boots
As I don't know any either i can't comment. Please open your thread though I would be interested to watch what people say.

why dont you? you seem to be the champion of racial issues, i think it appropriate that you post it.

Originally posted by Schecter
why dont you? you seem to be the champion of racial issues, i think it appropriate that you post it.

Where have I claimed to be a champion? Most people on here are calling me a Nazi. It's your topic idea it's of no interest to me beyond watching.

Originally posted by Boots
Where have I claimed to be a champion? Most people on here are calling me a Nazi. It's your topic idea it's of no interest to me beyond watching.

its called irony

This is a rather pointless question....

...It's like asking:

"Why are most members of the gangs Bloods and Crips are black?"

Or like

"Why are most members of the KKK and Skinheads are white?"

Or even

"Why are most of the mexican gangs are hispanics?"

So on...

Originally posted by chithappens
its called irony

Yes I think it is.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
This is a rather pointless question....

...It's like asking:

"Why are most members of the gangs Bloods and Crips are black?"

Or like

"Why are most members of the KKK and Skinheads are white?"

Or even

"Why are most of the mexican gangs are hispanics?"

So on...

Well?

Any answers?

Originally posted by Boots
Do these Gypsies mug people as well?

HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE SUCH A THING

if they do...at least we've clarified where they'll be going...

Well, actually I was trying to discuss those issues, before the thread became one big trolling feast.

Should have kept to role-playing boards.

Originally posted by Boots
Well?

Any answers?

Sie sind ein Clown

Originally posted by jaden101
HOW DARE YOU INSINUATE SUCH A THING

if they do...at least we've clarified where they'll be going...

I insinuate nothing i ask a question. Do you know the answer?

"Do these gypsies mug people as well?"

Originally posted by Robtard
Sie sind ein Clown

Ja! Good contribution.

Originally posted by Boots
I insinuate nothing i ask a question. Do you know the answer?

"Do these gypsies mug people as well?"

i do know the answer...i'm not telling...its a secret...teehee

Originally posted by jaden101
i do know the answer...i'm not telling...its a secret...teehee

"teehee"

Originally posted by Boots
Well?

Any answers?

There are no answers....deal with it.

Originally posted by Boots
Where have I claimed to be a champion? Most people on here are calling me a Nazi. It's your topic idea it's of no interest to me beyond watching.

im sure that in your mind you;re a champion. funny how you have the guts to
put someone else's ethnicity on the public slab but not your own.
oh wait...im sorry....i broke out of character. what i meant was:

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
There are no answers....deal with it.


Surely the brains trust that is KMC GDF can provide the answers I seek! If not here then where?

Originally posted by Schecter
im sure that in your mind you;re a champion. funny how you have the guts to
put someone else's ethnicity on the public slab but not your own.
oh wait...im sorry....i broke out of character. what i meant was:

You have no idea of my ethnicity.

Originally posted by Boots
Ja! Good contribution.

Well, it is the definitive answer.