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Sorry if this has been done before, but can anyone inform me on who is the most powerful Jedi or Sith to have ever existed.


And please tell me why this being is the most powerful.

Possibly an EU topic...but that's just me...

Oh, and to answer, I honestly couldn't say, I think it is impossible to determine.

Luke Skywalker, because he has more potential than anyone else, lives to fulfill it, and has shown far more impressive feats that anyone else.

Luke Skywalker is the most powerful ever, i think the writers made a terrible job, overpowering him, so badly and he doesn't has the highest potential, Anakin does, the child of the Force.

No Jedi/Sith contest ever, except when staying within the canon world please.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Luke Skywalker, because he has more potential than anyone else, lives to fulfill it, and has shown far more impressive feats that anyone else. What are some feats that put Luke over any other Jedi or Sith?

Integrity?

I guess integrity might = a feat....


But I was more or less looking for action related feats lol.


I read some things about Luke on Wiki, but often times Wiki isn't 100% accurate.

So I was hoping to pick the brains of some people here.

Don't touch mine, I like mine.

I am not too fond of mine.

And I don't like Luke at all so I will never admit that he is better than anybody.

But he is... the true chosen one.

Doesn't mean I have to like it...

But what has Luke done that puts him over someone like Yoda or Exar Kun?

Have you read any NJO?

No I haven't.

I'm just starting to get into the SW novels.

Luke's not the true chosen one. I hope to Joe Pesci you're kidding...

Who is?

anakin (duh) he is the child of the force. If anakin hadn't screwed up and allowed his mind to be corrupted, he would've been the most powerful jedi EVER! even as Vader in the OT he still kinda pwnt

oh and btw... obi wan should have died in every single fight he was ever in. against maul he should've died because maul killed qui-gon. and he had a doublesaber. against Dooku he did kinda lose, and if yoda wasn't there he woulda died. then he should have been killed by dooku again because anakin still wasn't that strong. he should've gotten PWNT like a rabbit in a blender against General Greivous because of Grievous's spinning saber thing that he did in the beginning of the fight. (the hand cutting was totally bogus) and, last but not least, he should've gotten killed by anakin. Because, anakin was the superior judging by the fight between dooku earlier in the movie, anakin's skills far surpassed obi-wans.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Luke's not the true chosen one. I hope to Joe Pesci you're kidding...

He should be. He's the only one that was really seriously tempted by the Dark Side AND managed to resist it.

And NJo is EU, not in here please.

Originally posted by zhellblah
and, last but not least, he should've gotten killed by anakin. Because, anakin was the superior judging by the fight between dooku earlier in the movie, anakin's skills far surpassed obi-wans. I've thought the same thing.

Dooku pwned Obi-wan, and Anakin pwned Dooku.


So how in the hell did Obi-wan stand a snowballs chance in hell against Anakin in the final fight of movie III?

Got too cocky?

Prolly...

Cause being that Vader was in the armor in ep 4, they had no choice but to make him lose. But yea, arrogance is the official explanation.

That was pretty clear.

And he was emotionally conflicted.

Most powerful Jedi: Luke.

Most powerful Sith: Sidious.

ani skywalker because he kills darth sidious, count dukoo, and not to mention all of the young jedi!

O yeah, the little kiddies wore very powerful.

Was Darth Plagus the Wise (Sidious's alleged master), real?

Or was he just a ruse Sidious fabricated to try and convert Anakin to the DS?

Who knows?

Originally posted by queeq
Who knows? Who's this "who" guy?


I'll ask him.









Nah I was mainly curious if Plagus had been mentioned in any SW books?

Originally posted by zhellblah
oh and btw... obi wan should have died in every single fight he was ever in.

Originally posted by Galan007
So how in the hell did Obi-wan stand a snowballs chance in hell against Anakin in the final fight of movie III?

Anakin was blinded by his anger, Obi Wan is the master of a defensive form, making all his battles drawn out, Obi Wan kept running away, and Obi Wan taught Anakin pretty much everything he knew, and they had fought together so many times that Obi Wan could predict Anakin's attacks.

Also, being one of the most powerful Jedi Masters helps, too.

Yup.

Originally posted by Galan007
Was Darth Plagus the Wise (Sidious's alleged master), real?

Or was he just a ruse Sidious fabricated to try and convert Anakin to the DS?

I think he was real, but if he could really create life, or stop people from dying, i don't know. And there was a novel being written(it was canceled) about Plegasus, so that could be a clue that he was real.

Novel??? EU ALERT!!!

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Obi Wan is the master of a defensive form, making all his battles drawn out Form III?

Form III, one of the seven forms of lightsaber combat.

Anyways, Luke is the most powerful Jedi and Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Form III, one of the seven forms of lightsaber combat. Right, that I actually knew.


Aren't forms II and VII the best all around?

Yup, but it really depends on the practitioner, who uses it.

Dooku = the master of form II, and Windu = the master of form VII correct?


I had also read somewhere that Dooku was able to defeat Windu in lightsaber to lightsaber combat, but I'm not sure of that.

Yea, in the past he defeated him, when they wore both still Jedi.

Do you think Dooku could have beaten Windu during the time of the Clone Wars?

Stop! Stop! No EU in here. Or I'll move this thread!

Mace and Dooku are TOTALLY EU.

NJO Luke & DE Sidious.
Ya, EU...

No EU.

Why queeq, why do yo hate EU so much.

I don't hate it, just don't discuss it here. There's a forum for it.

Oh, ok.

(queeq hates it)

Thats why he is never in there.

I read or play EU, but I don't like discussing it. There's too much of it around to keep up for me. The canon is clear and everyone knows it. The debates are fair. Plus we don't get Bane-nerds or Plagueis-freaks.

The Empire for the most powerful Sith and Yoda as the most powerful Jedi!jm

THe Empire as a whole????

I think thats what hes saying

Amazing new theory.

He deserves a Nobel prize.

He can join the Lucas Gallery of Storytellers

Or just be Lucas.

Nah, he doesn't deserve that much money.

Yoda

He does?

does what ?

Deserve money.

na dont think so

Then why did you said it?

Speak properly.

Please do.

It would be appreciated, at the very least.

Queeq, this thread is EU

Shhhhhhhh, don't tel him.

I am sure he knows already, shows what clones know.

But it's pretty off topic for a long time as well. CLOSING