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And the characters drafted for the first round are...

I call Hal Jordan! 9lol sorry for that, i'll stop)

Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)

Hawkman

Havok!

SPIRAL

Tony Stark

So is that everyone for right now?

screw the rest of 'em.

when do we do rd 2??

I'm waiting to see the other first round picks before I make my own.

Originally posted by leonidas
screw the rest of 'em.

when do we do rd 2??
Probably in a day or two. I want to give everyone a chance to draft their first picks before we start the next round.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm waiting to see the other first round picks before I make my own.



What if all your picks are taken

Originally posted by Devil Lance
What if all your picks are taken Well then to bad your screwed!

Cable w/ techno virus

Originally posted by Devil Lance
What if all your picks are taken

I have hundreds .... (pretty much every comic character below Iron Man actually) ... just got to customize them to the competition.

Mr. Sinister

I just hope all my picks get by the judges.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I just hope all my picks get by the judges.

No Trickster you can't have engineer

Originally posted by Devil Lance
No Trickster you can't have engineer

hysterical That was good.

So right now...

1.Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)
2.Hawkman
3.Havok
4.SPIRAL
5.Tony Stark
6.Cable w/ techno virus
7.Mr. Sinister

...have all been chosen.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So right now...

1.Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)
2.Hawkman
3.Havok
4.SPIRAL
5.Tony Stark
6.Cable w/ techno virus
7.Mr. Sinister

...have all been chosen.

Good none of my picks have been taken.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Good none of my picks have been taken. Wait are you entered in this even? I was honestly unaware of it somehow...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait are you entered in this even? I was honestly unaware of it somehow...

No I'm just messing with you. I'll stop now.

So right now...

1.Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)
2.Hawkman
3.Havok
4.SPIRAL
5.Tony Stark
6.Cable w/ techno virus
7.Mr. Sinister
8.Blink

...have all been chosen.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No I'm just messing with you. I'll stop now.
Oh good. My lifes been hectic the past couple of days and I thought I overlooked you somehow.

is this the appropriate place to discuss the appropriateness of picks?

Good, none of my picks have been taken.

...

sly

Originally posted by leonidas
is this the appropriate place to discuss the appropriateness of picks?
Sure. I don't see the harm in it, especially since it would be about a draft from this round.

Is the ability to shut off opponent's powers valid?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Is the ability to shut off opponent's powers valid?

Probably not ... I'm assuming that there's no teleporting of limbs or teleporting stuff into people for characters like Blink.

And what are the rules on BFR?

Sorry people, I have to run somewhere but I'll be back to address stuff as soon as I can.

i've only a couple minor questions:

blink is 616 blink, right? not the one that can throw javelins and bfr opponents?

and havok. i believe trickster said something about him being an *cough* abstract . . . i HAVE seen the scans of him holding a black hole, or something, so i just want to be clear that he is within caps. i'd personally considered him but was hesitant to take him (mostly because of his recent showings) for fear of cap-breaking.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Probably not ... Then I presume it would just be removed from Spiral's power set...?

Goober can give a verdict.

You want to ask Mr. Master about Havok. If it's a problem, just use classic.

teleporting limbs off is probably no good, but shutting off powers should be legal.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
shutting off powers should be legal.

I don't think it should.

Originally posted by leonidas
i've only a couple minor questions:

blink is 616 blink, right? not the one that can throw javelins and bfr opponents?

and havok. i believe trickster said something about him being an *cough* abstract . . . i HAVE seen the scans of him holding a black hole, or something, so i just want to be clear that he is within caps. i'd personally considered him but was hesitant to take him (mostly because of his recent showings) for fear of cap-breaking.

Dont know about Blink, and eh the whole abstract thing was just a "name" He was tied to all realties (reason he "died" and then ended up in the Mutant X unviserse) Either way I dont care as its not my pick, but his "power level" did not change You guys wanna ban him go for it though

ps: The black hole was Xorn's head, but all he was doing was feeding it energy. Still pretty impressive, but not him actually holding the black hole like say.....superman


.......So......this is it? Where's the contraversy? Where's the really iffy picks? damn

you can make a case for spiral's magic, but not anyone's else ability to interfere with or block powers.

Damn .... nowhere near enough controversy here ... Trick ... go take over the tourney for a minute so we can start arguing again.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Damn .... nowhere near enough controversy here ... Trick ... go take over the tourney for a minute so we can start arguing again.



shocklaugh What, and trash my rep on this forum some more? You go to hell, scoob. You go to hell and you die.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Damn .... nowhere near enough controversy here ... Trick ... go take over the tourney for a minute so we can start arguing again.

Yeah... I think the biggest problem is that people have to be careful at defending their picks, if they want to keep anonymity

if havok's power level didn't change, then that's fine by me.

So right now...

1.Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)
2.Hawkman
3.Havok
4.SPIRAL
5.Tony Stark
6.Cable w/ techno virus
7.Mr. Sinister
8.Blink

...have all been chosen.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
shocklaugh What, and trash my rep on this forum some more? You go to hell, scoob. You go to hell and you die. You have reputation to trash?
I must have missed something...

I'm not sure about Cable ... even with the virus he's above Jean Grey's non-phoenix levels ... in fact he was considered to have more power than Xavier.

Last tourney the cap for TK was Justice ... Cable would be miles over that.

No.....I'm sure Cable would be fine......

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm not sure about Cable ... even with the virus he's above Jean Grey's non-phoenix levels ... in fact he was considered to have more power than Xavier.

Last tourney the cap for TK was Justice ... Cable would be miles over that.


This is true

Originally posted by Martian_mind
No.....I'm sure Cable would be fine...... Interesting that you think that?

No.....nothing suspicious.....just a thought......

Mr. Sinister also has tp that's > Jean Grey

good......Tricker picked Sinister,so lets ban him.

Shouldn't there be a distinction like "Tony Stark - Mind/Tech" since some of the picks could fall into more than 1 category?

Or no?

Its secret


Or something like that....we dont have to say what part we want to use them for....cept to tell Darth I guess

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Is the ability to shut off opponent's powers valid?
Depends on the circumstances. If you mean something similar to someone creating an EMP effect, which cancels out someone's suit of armor then yes it's ok. If you mean like someone shutting down a mutants X-gene, then probably not. I don't really mind it, as long as it doesn't attack the opponents powers at their source. So an External shut down would be ok, but to shut down their powers internally would be a no no. I think that made sense(if not let me know)....

Originally posted by Scoobless
Probably not ... I'm assuming that there's no teleporting of limbs or teleporting stuff into people for characters like Blink.
Right.

Originally posted by Scoobless
And what are the rules on BFR?
Same as batdude's. It's cool so long as it doesn't involve teleportaion off the battlefield.

Originally posted by leonidas
blink is 616 blink, right? not the one that can throw javelins and bfr opponents?
I said no alternate versions, so I'm assuming he meant 616 Blink.

Originally posted by leonidas
and havok. i believe trickster said something about him being an *cough* abstract . . . i HAVE seen the scans of him holding a black hole, or something, so i just want to be clear that he is within caps. i'd personally considered him but was hesitant to take him (mostly because of his recent showings) for fear of cap-breaking.
This is "Classic" Havok, so none of his uber stuff will be allowed.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm not sure about Cable ... even with the virus he's above Jean Grey's non-phoenix levels ... in fact he was considered to have more power than Xavier.

Last tourney the cap for TK was Justice ... Cable would be miles over that.
I thought that the Virus severely impaired his tp and tk? I'll run it by a couple of people and get their opinions before I make a decision.

So right now...

1.Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)
2.Hawkman
3.Havok
4.SPIRAL
5.Tony Stark
6.Cable w/ techno virus
7.Mr. Sinister
8.Blink
9.Nightshade

...have all been chosen.

Originally posted by darthgoober
9.Nightshade

What was the rule on constructs? only 2 and they have to be << Iron Man?

She can make huge ass constructs (as in bigger than mountains....MUCH).

I mean I pretty much beat Pr with her powers in the herald level match ups.

Also, what about Sinister? His tp>>>>Jeans

If those are the rules i feel sorry for Mr Stacks....

Originally posted by Scoobless
What was the rule on constructs? only 2 and they have to be << Iron Man?
Yep.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
She can make huge ass constructs (as in bigger than mountains....MUCH).

I mean I pretty much beat Pr with her powers in the herald level match ups.

Also, what about Sinister? His tp>>>>Jeans
Well if you have anything to suggest that she's over the caps just let me see and make a call on it. I'm unfamiliar with her, so I can't make an accurate judgement about her right now.

scans coming your way....gimme a minute

Originally posted by Blair Wind
She can make huge ass constructs (as in bigger than mountains....MUCH).

I mean I pretty much beat Pr with her powers in the herald level match ups.

Yeah ... but that was Pr .... he was probably drunk with joy over managing to draft SUperman for a tournament.

what's the general notion on sinister . . .?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yep.

Well if you have anything to suggest that she's over the caps just let me see and make a call on it. I'm unfamiliar with her, so I can't make an accurate judgement about her right now.

I think the construct rules pretty much keep her within the caps ... from what I know about her, we'll see what BW has stored away first.

I think Sinister isn't that bad,i mean he's more the drive around in an ice cream van dressed as a clown so he can collect kiddies "DNA" kind of villian.

Sorry Blair, overlooked this part...
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Also, what about Sinister? His tp>>>>Jeans

If that's the case then yeah I'll have to bar him. I thought that his tp was on par with hers, I didn't know that it exceeded it. So if anyone wants to PM me some scans(or post them if you'd prefer) to show just how powerful his TP is, it would be greatly appreciated.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Yeah ... but that was Pr .... he was probably drunk with joy over managing to draft SUperman for a tournament.



There are a few guys over jean in TP and the criteria was the tier list for the most part.

2md, Nightshade is probably over the cap if she was in a herald tourney.

3rd, Spiral is a pretty good mage and can shift dimensions. I think she's over the cap.

4. Does whoever have Cable for a powers pick get his TO virus, or just that level of power?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
scans coming your way....gimme a minute

Hitting Spectre/Eclipso
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/0536838599.jpg
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/ff1942892e.jpg

Big Constructs:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?10390d169a.jpg
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?98cde7a993.jpg

REALLY big constructs:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?741aa086d0.jpg
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?74d35a02f0.jpg

Hundreds of people:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/217737ec2b.jpg

Not that this puts her at above Ironman levels (its her using someones weakness, but still....its Superman):
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/image.php?1c61fe3d44.jpg

And it begins....

Just know that I'm jaded beyond belief by my tourney-hosting experience and motion to ban anyone who comes into serious legitimate question.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
There are a few guys over jean in TP and the criteria was the tier list for the most part.

2md, Nightshade is probably over the cap if she was in a herald tourney.

3rd, Spiral is a pretty good mage and can shift dimensions. I think she's over the cap.

4. Does whoever have Cable for a powers pick get his TO virus, or just that level of power?

Nightshade wasn't in the Herald tourney, Black Alice was using her powers.

Cable wont have the TO in the tourney ... if whoever is using him wants his powers then he wont have his body = no TO Virus = "God-Like" Cable levels.

unless they used Cables "Body" they wouldn't get the techno virius.


The Caps restrict Nightshade like Scoob said so i'm cool with her


final point.You can pretty much guess who picked who.

Havok=Entity
Sinister=Tricker
Hawkman=King Kandy
Cable=
Nightshade=Joey Stacks
Blink=Blair wind
Tony Stark=Nvr

and i don't know who else is in the tourney.

I can see Nightshade definitely going out.........

Btw, where was it said the TP limit was Jean Grey. Last I heard it was mid tier/ Iron-man Levelr.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Sorry Blair, overlooked this part...


If that's the case then yeah I'll have to bar him. I thought that his tp was on par with hers, I didn't know that it exceeded it. So if anyone wants to PM me some scans(or post them if you'd prefer) to show just how powerful his TP is, it would be greatly appreciated.


from the sinister respect thread

Sinister psychically destroys Jean's memories on the psychic plane. Also, notice the size difference between him and the others, on the psychic plane
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/uxm243pg04cy0.jpg

Sinister destoys more memories and mentally inhibits Psylocke from using her powers
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/uxm243pg07ka7.jpg

Sinister pwns Psylocke on the astral/psychic plane. Psylocke says "he's just too strong"

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/uxm243pg08zc2.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/uxm243pg09ee7.jpg
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/uxm243pg10my7.jpg

I'd love anyone who drafts someone sweet then gets them banned just for the sh*t of it. You probably won't win, but you'll have my respect.

So do it.

Now.

Here he is, inside Jean's head, destroying her memories:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/uxm243pg04cy0.jpg

Here he is, mentally trapping Psylocke in astral form:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/uxm243pg07ka7.jpg

Here he is mindraping Psylocke:
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/uxm243pg10my7.jpg

EDIT: Bah, DL got there first.

Still my scans though, so I win.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Nightshade wasn't in the Herald tourney, Black Alice was using her powers.

Cable wont have the TO in the tourney ... if whoever is using him wants his powers then he wont have his body = no TO Virus = "God-Like" Cable levels.



Oh ****.........Which is why I asked. We're either sticking him at the level that he displayed with the t/o virus, or we're giving the body the TO virus.

Sinister=bad

Cable=good

Nightshade=long as thoughs restrictions are in place i'm happy.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Sinister=bad

Cable=good

Nightshade=long as thoughs restrictions are in place i'm happy.

I think the fact that Nightshade was ****ing up Superman jawdrop is enough to boot her out of this tournament.

And **** you martian. If I can't keep sinister, you're not keeping Cable.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I think the fact that Nightshade was ****ing up Superman jawdrop is enough to boot her out of this tournament.

And **** you martian. If I can't keep sinister, you're not keeping Cable.


She was exploiting his weakness,plus she is restricted,your just being a difficult **** for no reason again.



Sinister is over the Caps,Cable isn't.I shouldn't pay just because you can't make a half-decent by the rule amalgam

Sinister & Cable are both over the caps for the same reason (TP)

Fie,ban em both.I'll still pwn u all.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Sinister & Cable are both over the caps for the same reason (TP)

Yeah, but Magneto completely beat the shit out of Cable though.

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, but Magneto completely beat the shit out of Cable though.


Hey,Cable took the moral victory,and in the long run thats what counts.

Ha. Take that you green *******.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ha. Take that you green *******.


What,you still lost Sinister,So i'm guessing he was far more crucial to your plan then Cable was to mine.Hell,i was gonna have a mad complicated scheme with him using magnets to warp his metal.

So, essentially what Batdude's saying, is that

Superman >>> Martian Manhunter
Magneto >>> Cable
Batman >>> Jason Todd

Right?

What people say and what people mean are two very different things Smurf.Batdude is a closet fan of them,but is too much of a psuuy to handle the stigma.So he goes with the more popular heroes.


Bandwagon fan.

DRAFT CHANGE!!!!!
So right now...

1.Yellowjacket (Hank Pym)
2.Hawkman
3.Havok
4.SPIRAL
5.Tony Stark
6.Cable w/ techno virus
7.Vision
8.Blink
9.Nightshade

...have all been chosen.

Throw Cable out, or I start scan-blitzing. He's gone to the astral plain, beaten an onslaught controlled Hulk, managed to briefly go toe to toe with a weakened Apoc.

Whats impressive about the last one?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
managed to briefly go toe to toe with a weakened Apoc. I agree, this alone should be reason for him to get banned, but I don't think Goober set in a cap for minimum power levels... hmm

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Throw Cable out, or I start scan-blitzing. He's gone to the astral plain, beaten an onslaught controlled Hulk, managed to briefly go toe to toe with a weakened Apoc.
I plan on having a talk with the person who picked him to find out exactly what's going on. If I misunderstood and he's using Cable in an acceptable way I'll ban him. I'll let you guys know a little later tonight.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Nightshade wasn't in the Herald tourney, Black Alice was using her powers.

Cable wont have the TO in the tourney ... if whoever is using him wants his powers then he wont have his body = no TO Virus = "God-Like" Cable levels.



See, here's why he needs to be kicked.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I plan on having a talk with the person who picked him to find out exactly what's going on. If I misunderstood and he's using Cable in an acceptable way I'll ban him. I'll let you guys know a little later tonight.

Umm, don't you mean unacceptable way?
Sorry, just feelin a little perky and smartassy tonight. Forgive me.

Originally posted by Entity
Umm, don't you mean unacceptable way?
Yeah that's what I meant .

Originally posted by Entity
Umm, don't you mean unacceptable way?


You're one to talk.

Literacy Nazi.....

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Literacy Nazi.....

NO LITERACY FOR YOU!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're one to talk. You've noticed that heh...fish

well,all activity seems to have stopped dead...

I just want to ask something real quick about Vision would he be able to phase because that kind of seems to make him unkillable in this tourney we he can phase through any attack and his mind is a machine.

QUESTION!

Say you took Cable for your mind, and Deadpool for your body....

Wouldn't you then have god-like cable? As the only thing that made Cable god-like was the healing factor off-setting his virus and healing the strain put on his body via power usage?

......noooo......

Originally posted by Newjak
I just want to ask something real quick about Vision would he be able to phase because that kind of seems to make him unkillable in this tourney we he can phase through any attack and his mind is a machine.


Yeah,he's pushing the envelope a bit as well.

Originally posted by Soljer
QUESTION!

Say you took Cable for your mind, and Deadpool for your body....

Wouldn't you then have god-like cable? As the only thing that made Cable god-like was the healing factor off-setting his virus and healing the strain put on his body via power usage? Yes... but that would be power meshing, really. Your amalgamated character doesn't need to be Ironman-level, but your three individual ones do.

Originally posted by Newjak
I just want to ask something real quick about Vision would he be able to phase because that kind of seems to make him unkillable in this tourney we he can phase through any attack and his mind is a machine.

You can't have both his powers and his mind though.

Phasing was OKd (I think) ... and it's not like Vision has any decent offensive powers when phased.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Yes... but that would be power meshing, really. Your amalgamated character doesn't need to be Ironman-level, but your three individual ones do.

Exactly ... but Cable is already over the caps to begin with.

And under Goober's rules, what you just said is not only possible, it's a viable strategy to win. Hence, Cable needs to go.

But if you took Cable as just mind you'd already be God-like,and Cables telepathy is already in question.Wait,why am i arguing against my own character.....

Originally posted by Martian_mind
But if you took Cable as just mind you'd already be God-like,and Cables telepathy is already in question.Wait,why am i arguing against my own character.....

If you took Cable as the mind then he wouldn't have any powers.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I'd love anyone who drafts someone sweet then gets them banned just for the sh*t of it. You probably won't win, but you'll have my respect.

So do it.

Now.

Hey Digi, give Martian a cookie. He just fulfilled your request.

Originally posted by Scoobless
You can't have both his powers and his mind though.

Phasing was OKd (I think) ... and it's not like Vision has any decent offensive powers when phased.



Besides phasing his hand into them....Would phasing fall under mind or powers?as it is a mental act.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Exactly ... but Cable is already over the caps to begin with. If he has the TO virus, it's easily debateable. Not to mention, Soljer's scenario wouldn't work. You would need Cable for powers, and DP for body.

Originally posted by Scoobless
You can't have both his powers and his mind though.

Phasing was OKd (I think) ... and it's not like Vision has any decent offensive powers when phased. Well, he can phase his hand into them, and he can actually "possess" people like that, but I believe it's illegal. Or, it should be.

Vision should be banned.

If you can kick Sinister for TP, you're kicking Cable. He's shown himself to capable of altering his TO virus and making spikes, etc out of it. Not to mention tapping the astral plain for power. You get him w/o the TO virus, he's god-like cable if you get someone with a decent healing factor, or with DP as body, as Smurf said.

We've got most of the compediters saying he's over, and I'm about 5 mins away from scan-blitzing.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Well, he can phase his hand into them, and he can actually "possess" people like that, but I believe it's illegal. Or, it should be.

I'm cool with kicking the possesion power. but not the phazing.

**** you martian.

Vision is over the Caps though.....class 90,Phasing,possesion,energy beams,he is way over the Caps....

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Vision is over the Caps though.....class 90,Phasing,possesion,energy beams,he is way over the Caps....

Other than posession, that actually sounds like a dumbed-down Iron Man. Is it really over the caps?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
If you can kick Sinister for TP, you're kicking Cable. He's shown himself to capable of altering his TO virus and making spikes, etc out of it. Not to mention tapping the astral plain for power. You get him w/o the TO virus, he's god-like cable if you get someone with a decent healing factor, or with DP as body, as Smurf said.

We've got most of the compediters saying he's over, and I'm about 5 mins away from scan-blitzing. If you have Cable + Deadpool = Godlike Cable, it doesn't matter that you're over Ironman limit, since you're amalgamated character is allowed to be. It is only the base three characters that have to be individually under Ironman.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Other than posession, that actually sounds like a dumbed-down Iron Man. Is it really over the caps? Except he just recently pwned Iron man in Civil War

How do you attack Vision while phased? (besides Hawkeye)

Originally posted by Blair Wind
How do you attack Vision while phased? (besides Hawkeye) How the hell did Hawkeye attack him while phased???

Which is why I'm arguing that Cable is over the caps to begin with. Cause I don't want martian to screw me over. Not to mention, his TP should be restricted to his TO virus levels to begin with.

By the way guys I've been thinking about this should there be a limit placed on Healing factors?

Originally posted by Soljer
QUESTION!

Say you took Cable for your mind, and Deadpool for your body....

Wouldn't you then have god-like cable? As the only thing that made Cable god-like was the healing factor off-setting his virus and healing the strain put on his body via power usage?

And that's called intelligent power meshing.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Besides phasing his hand into them....Would phasing fall under mind or powers?as it is a mental act.

All powers are a mental act ... anything > Human is considered a power

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
If he has the TO virus, it's easily debateable. Not to mention, Soljer's scenario wouldn't work. You would need Cable for powers, and DP for body.

Cable is always at "God-Like" level ... he can choose to use that much power whenever he wants .. the TO doesn't reduce his power, it just occupies it.

He has the same power as Nate Grey and Nate Grey >>>> Iron Man.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Other than posession, that actually sounds like a dumbed-down Iron Man. Is it really over the caps?

Well, I think his feats are>>>Iron Man's imo.

Originally posted by Entity
How the hell did Hawkeye attack him while phased???


PIS/Trick arrow

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Not to mention, his TP should be restricted to his TO virus levels to begin with.


Otherwise, if you are taking his powerset minus the body effect from the TO virus, then it is, in fact, God-like Cable. HENCE, OVER THE CAPS.

So Vision and Cable are out?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
PIS/Trick arrow AHH!!! I see, but no to things like what Newjak said. I liked Darth original idea that as long as individually their under the Ironman level they should be allowed. Even if combined they are able to form a character above Skyfather.

Anyone know anything about Spiral? She seems like a good pick, but that could just mean she's uber and no one noticed

Originally posted by Entity
AHH!!! I see, but no to things like what Newjak said. I liked Darth original idea that as long as individually their under the Ironman level they should be allowed. Even if combined they are able to form a character above Skyfather. What did I say.
All I said is that while phased he is pretty much immune to attacks

and that he recently pwned Ironman in Civil War

Oh and once again guys should we limit what a healing factor can do?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Anyone know anything about Spiral? She seems like a good pick, but that could just mean she's uber and no one noticed

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Spiral_game.gif

I'm gonna say not much of a thread.

On the other hand I got this from Wiki:

When Spiral was first introduced, she was a powerful sorceress and during her first two encounters with the X-Men, single-handedly defeated the team. She can cast spells to stun, depower, or immobilize her superhuman opponents, as she did to depower and imprison the Avengers and West Coast Avengers once they were still long enough for the spells to catch them. She has since been beaten by Longshot and other individuals.

Originally posted by Newjak
What did I say.
All I said is that while phased he is pretty much immune to attacks

and that he recently pwned Ironman in Civil War

Oh and once again guys should we limit what a healing factor can do? The healing factor statement was what I was referring to. I just like the idea of letting anyone Ironman level and meshing their abilities together to see who can be the most creative.

Vision and Cable are out,it would seem.

I'm gonna say Spiral should probablt be out too.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Vision and Cable are out,it would seem.

Cable for sure .... probably Vision as well.

Originally posted by Entity
The healing factor statement was what I was referring to. I just like the idea of letting anyone Ironman level and meshing their abilities together to see who can be the most creative. Oh ok and what I meant was should we maybe limit just what a healing factor could do. Cause for some people their Healing factor seems to be greater in scope then any other power. I mean Deadpool is pretty much unkillable with his healing Factor so is Wolverine.

So maybe limit to say they can only heal minor wounds normally like they would but major injuries like say badly hurt organs would take like 5 minutes to fully heal or like the loss of a head still would kill them.

Or something like that so we don't get an unkillable person in the tourney.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Cable for sure .... probably Vision as well.

I see Vision as a definite imo.but yeah,fine with Cable going,i can just repick.

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh ok and what I meant was should we maybe limit just what a healing factor could do. Cause for some people their Healing factor seems to be greater in scope then any other power. I mean Deadpool is pretty much unkillable with his healing Factor so is Wolverine.

So maybe limit to say they can only heal minor wounds normally like they would but major injuries like say badly hurt organs would take like 5 minutes to fully heal or like the loss of a head still would kill them.

Or something like that so we don't get an unkillable person in the tourney.

I love decapitation! That always kills them! dev

Well, it should.

Originally posted by Entity
I love decapitation! That always kills them! dev

Well, it should.

*drafts Hydro-Man*

Originally posted by Entity
I love decapitation! That always kills them! dev

Well, it should. Not with Deadpool which is why I think putting some limits on the Healing factor maybe helpful

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I got this from Wiki:

When Spiral was first introduced, she was a powerful sorceress and during her first two encounters with the X-Men, single-handedly defeated the team. She can cast spells to stun, depower, or immobilize her superhuman opponents, as she did to depower and imprison the Avengers and West Coast Avengers once they were still long enough for the spells to catch them. She has since been beaten by Longshot and other individuals.

If Spiral is capable of beating the Avengers and WestCoastAvengers at the same time wouldn't she be over the caps?

Well,Spirals out as well....

Have fun banning every single draft guys ... I'm off to bed.

Originally posted by Scoobless


Have fun banning every single draft guys ... I'm off to bed.



Nite.

Nighty night,So Spiral,Vision and Cable all have to be repicked.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Nighty night,So Spiral,Vision and Cable all have to be repicked.

I don't actually know the circumstances of Spiral's team busting feats so we can't really ban her until someone brings up better evidence than a Wiki entry.

Hey guys, as much as I know it's mostly in jest.....finding 1 showing, declaring the person banned without any sort of authorization or discussion, and monopolizing the thread with posts could collectively be considered spam.

Reign it in, and work on promoting discussion....not instigating witch-hunts for anyone you didn't pick....because crap like this insane paranoia every time we sneeze is what makes drafts come to a screeching halt and get people pissy about tourneys.

Well,Vision and Cable are already veiwed as over the Caps,and Spiral seems very close to it..