Originally posted by Soljer
Stalemate.Everyone's strength is divided by a factor of five thousand, but their invulnerability remains the same. Hence, they won't be able to dish out enough damage to one another.
what's superman's base strength level?
1,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons? Is dividing that by 5000 really gonna make much of a difference?
Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
I got 200000000000000...
don't know if you're being sarcastic or not:
I gave Superman a conservative estimate.
This is what I based it on.
All Star Superman was lifting 18 quintillion easily with one arm, so with both arms and full strength he could prob lift 100 quintillion tons.
1 quintillion is 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons (18 zeros)
So I figured is All Star Superman is 100x more powerful than regular Superman, than regular Superman would be able to lift 1 quintillion tons.
Uhhh....
Do you think Superman at his regular levels could one shot Thor? Or a power-gem wielding Drax?
Honestly?
Okay....well...divide that power by five thousand, and you'll see that no one in this fight will be able to deal enough damage to one another.
Except for MAYBE Drax, assuming he taps the power gem in MUCH greater quantities than ever before.
Originally posted by Soljer
Uhhh....Do you think Superman at his regular levels could one shot Thor? Or a power-gem wielding Drax?
Honestly?
Okay....well...divide that power by five thousand, and you'll see that no one in this fight will be able to deal enough damage to one another.
Except for MAYBE Drax, assuming he taps the power gem in MUCH greater quantities than ever before.
I understand your logic and it does make sense the way you put it.
But by looking at numbers, even reducing his strength by 5000 times, he still is in the range of at least 1,000,000,000,000,000 tons (or am I wrong about that figure?)
But, you see, the thing is; we have no method to compare All Star to Regular continuity. All Star proved capable of holding back something that a Super-Imp and Superman 1M failed to.
All we are left with for regular Superman are his planet moving feats - which is about propulsion power, rather than punching power.
Originally posted by Soljer
But, you see, the thing is; we have no method to compare All Star to Regular continuity. All Star proved capable of holding back something that a Super-Imp and Superman 1M failed to.All we are left with for regular Superman are his planet moving feats - which is about propulsion power, rather than punching power.
I don't even consider planet moving a feat since I think it's PIS. The power to move a planet out of orbit is MUCH MUCH MORE than 200 quintillion tons. You're essentially overpowering the gravitational power of the star that the planet orbits around, which is really insane amount of power.
Originally posted by masterbruce
I don't even consider planet moving a feat since I think it's PIS. The power to move a planet out of orbit is MUCH MUCH MORE than 200 quintillion tons. You're essentially overpowering the gravitational power of the star that the planet orbits around, which is really insane amount of power.
Well, in that case, you have even fewer feats for your scenario to work.
I mean, there is no way to compare All Star and Regular Continuity Superman.
It'd be like saying "Well, Ultimate Hulk is half as strong as the Hulk, and since the Hulk lifted a hundred and fifty billion tons...."
There is no precedent for such a comparison.
Originally posted by Soljer
Well, in that case, you have even fewer feats for your scenario to work.I mean, there is no way to compare All Star and Regular Continuity Superman.
It'd be like saying "Well, Ultimate Hulk is half as strong as the Hulk, and since the Hulk lifted a hundred and fifty billion tons...."
There is no precedent for such a comparison.
could you give me a rough estimate of regular Superman's power in tons?
Originally posted by masterbruce
what's superman's base strength level?1,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons? Is dividing that by 5000 really gonna make much of a difference?
I believe Superman and Raging Hulk is only limited by their minds on what they can lift or move. If either Hulk or Superman thinks they can lifts something they would be able to lift it.