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Ah, you mean the True Beyonders vs the Pre-retconned one?

Nice sig quote T.

Not better than my former I belive, but people didn't like that one.

- Well I don't think this battle is clear enough, whcih versions of which do you refere to?

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Beyonders vs Beyonder

BeyonderS for the win.


Until recently Pre-retcon Beyonder would have been above them.

Ever since the discovery of the rediculous Feat by an Incomplete-Cosmic Cube,

things have changed.


Pre-retcon Beyonder was Everything Outside the Multiverse, and when he entered the Multiverse he took over and was one with Reality.

But Pre-retcon Beyonder was Never able to be Both simultaneously.

Either he was Everything Outside, or he was in control of Everything Inside.




The Incomplete Cosmic Containment Unit I was talking about,

Erased the entire Omniverse and then Re-Created it several times.

That in itself is above nearly anyone including Pre-retcon Beyonder.

But to think that a Complete Cosmic Cube is but a Tiny Fraction of the BeyonderS,

is humbling indeed.

I thought the Beyonders where incomplete Cosmic Cubes.
And Beyonders are lower than the Living Tribual, no?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Ah, you mean the True Beyonders vs the Pre-retconned one?

Yes

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I thought the Beyonders where incomplete Cosmic Cubes.

Where'd you get that from?


Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
And Beyonders are lower than the Living Tribual, no?

LT's official bio states only the TOAA is above him.

And I most certainly agree.

But we have to be reasonable,

an Incomplete-Cosmic Cube DID in fact Re-create the entire Omniverse.

Omniverse = the entirety of Marvel.

Beyonder in fact Never had power over the entirety of Marvel,

he said it himself without him THERE, the Beyond Realm was just empty Space.

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So he was either the Beyond Realm, or in control of the Multiverse.

But Never simultaneously.

So the Beyonder was One Multiverse shy of controlling the entirety of Marvel. (the Omniverse)



Let's not forget the Cosmic Cube (Complete) is but a Tiny Portion of the True BeyonderS.

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Beyonders

Originally posted by Mr Master
Let's not forget the Cosmic Cube (Complete) is but a Tiny Portion of the True BeyonderS.
Where was this stated, oh, and look in your hierarchy thread (just posted a question)

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Where was this stated, oh, and look in your hierarchy thread (just posted a question)

By the Living Tribunal himself,



LT calls the BeyonderS, "the INFINITE"

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"Minute bits of of their Energy" create Cosmic Cubes.

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Yet I personally doesn't think that the Beyonders are so powerful as the impression gives, in the HOM a girl who had the power of the beyonders only briefly stalemated the Chaos Wave, IF they where so powerful so that they could recreate the omniverse over and over again then, the Chaos Wave shouldn't really present a problem for one who possessed the power of the beyonders.

Also if I might add then this ripes you hierachy apart, you have already said that the Beyonders are above Pre retcon Beyonder but obviously below ore at the same level as LT, so who comes LT beinging below Pre retcon beyonder ???

And LT really must be powerful to exact rules over beings that can create and recreate omniverses at a whim.

Originally posted by Utrigita
Yet I personally doesn't think that the Beyonders are so powerful as the impression gives, in the HOM a girl who had the power of the beyonders only briefly stalemated the Chaos Wave, IF they where so powerful so that they could recreate the omniverse over and over again then, the Chaos Wave shouldn't really present a problem for one who possessed the power of the beyonders.

Also if I might add then this ripes you hierachy apart, you have already said that the Beyonders are above Pre retcon Beyonder but obviously below ore at the same level as LT, so who comes LT beinging below Pre retcon beyonder ???

And LT really must be powerful to exact rules over beings that can create and recreate omniverses at a whim.

Welcome back

PR Beyonder wins easily. Compared to Beyonders, the original Beyonder is a one-man army. Remember, Beyonders can be KILLED.

Speaking of Beyonder, I'll have call out the user named "BeyonderGod" because he has made some ridiculous claims in the past.

* He claims that Beyonders are omnipotent, then he cites mere statements to prove this claim, even though we know that Beyonders can't time travel and they can be killed by characters with enough power.

* He says the reason they can't time travel is because of PIS. I guess PIS is the insta-win argument for those who don't want to accept that their favorite characters aren't as powerful as they think they are. Mere statements vs actual showings? I'll go with the showings. The fact that they can't time travel means they're not omnipotent but rather just an extremely powerful race.

EDIT: Looking at the date this thread was posted, it seems what OP was talking about was an entirely different group named "Beyonders".