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Red Tornado
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vs

Storm
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Storm

Tornado. Realistically, he shouldn't lose. And unlike Storm, his winds are shown to work on high tiers.

we know who wins here...

Storm EASILY.

Elementals can't harm RT . . .

Originally posted by complexbrother
Red Tornado
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vs

Storm
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storm

RT has a badass cape!

RT 8/10

Red Tornado EASILY!

He has good superstrength, durabilty and his winds are shown to be >>>>>>> Storms winds (who can top only around 300+ mph).

Storm would finally know what a REAL aerokinetic can do.

RT 8/10.

RT is an Air elemental

think Iceman of air

Originally posted by llagrok
RT has a badass cape!

RT 8/10
Yes he does.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
RT is an Air elemental

think Iceman of air
I agree.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
RT is an Air elemental

think Iceman of air

Um... what??

Isnt aerokinesis control over air molecules???

Iceman is cryokinetic right?

Originally posted by phillipan
Um... what??

Isnt aerokinesis control over air molecules???

Iceman is cryokinetic right?

......yea?


I'm saying that Iceman is a water elemental, while Red Tornado is an Air elemental

Originally posted by Blair Wind
......yea?


I'm saying that Iceman is a water elemental, while Red Tornado is an Air elemental

But what does Iceman have to do with this?

Originally posted by phillipan
But what does Iceman have to do with this? It's a simple comparison to show how powerful Red Tornado is. durfist

Originally posted by phillipan
But what does Iceman have to do with this?

BW gets a commission from Marvel every time he brings him up in a thread where he has nothing to do with the match.

Originally posted by Badabing
It's a simple comparison to show how powerful Red Tornado is. durfist

Red Tornado ftw

Originally posted by Blair Wind
......yea?


I'm saying that Iceman is a water elemental, while Red Tornado is an Air elemental


seriously, this post ends the thread

Red Tornado 8/10

Red Tornado 10/10

STORM WINS WITH RIDICULOUS EASE! WHAT CAN TORNADO DO TO HER? SHE'S GOT DA LIGHTNINZIG IN DA BRAINZ!

Originally posted by Soljer
Red Tornado 10/10

STORM WINS WITH RIDICULOUS EASE! WHAT CAN TORNADO DO TO HER? SHE'S GOT DA LIGHTNINZIG IN DA BRAINZ!

YEp

She also wins because her winds are MUCH STRONGER.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
YEp

She also wins because her winds are MUCH STRONGER.


apparently someone didn't read JLA.....

Originally posted by Redatom65
apparently someone didn't read JLA.....

Fill me in

well, before we do that, do you read ANYTHING outside of a storm related book

Originally posted by Redatom65
well, before we do that, do you read ANYTHING outside of a storm related book

Another one.

Storm 10/10

well when your not aware of other characters, that kind of makes you ignorant to the subject...

Red Tornado is part of a set number of immortal beings. Cant remember the number, but he's immortal

Originally posted by Redatom65
well when your not aware of other characters, that kind of makes you ignorant to the subject...

I know enough now to know that Storm wins 10/10

Originally posted by 2damnloud
YEp



!!! I'm glad you agree.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I know enough now to know that Storm wins 10/10


Could Storm do to Solemn Grundy, Injured, with her arm eaten off, what Red Tornado did? While he was a human? No I don't think she can, at all

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I know enough now to know that Storm wins 10/10 Then you know next to nothing.....dur

pwned

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Elementals can't harm RT . . .

Is that true?

TRUE elementals in DC cant harm eachother. Like Red Tornado could not hurt Swamp Thing (I totally forget the other elementals in that story line but those two were in it)

Oh wait nevermind.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
TRUE elementals in DC cant harm eachother. Like Red Tornado could not hurt Swamp Thing (I totally forget the other elementals in that story line but those two were in it)

I didnt know that. Well, if elementals cant harm each other then debating over this thread is pointless, so for the sake of arguing lets just say these two can...

While RT winds are stronger Storm isn't limited to just wind. I do believe Torrnado takes majority due to his superior strength, speed and healing factor (8/10) however, Storm does have other offensive capabilities that could harm Reddy.

Either way RT wins

Storm fans can be furious cant they? anywho Rt 9/10 at least

Originally posted by nimbus006
I didnt know that. Well, if elementals cant harm each other then debating over this thread is pointless, so for the sake of arguing lets just say these two can...
Storm isn't a true element in DC.

Storm 10/10

Her winds have go hypersonic and his only method of offense cannot harm her.

Cant storm control RT if he is a tornado?





any how RT wins.

Actually she can.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Actually she can.

You're as bad as Quanchi is with Thanos

Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
You're as bad as Quanchi is with Thanos

She has taken control of elements of another being. hydroman and Stardust on the sub-atomic level.

Her winds go faster and she has just as much if not more control.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She has taken control of elements of another being. hydroman and Stardust on the sub-atomic level.

Her winds go faster and she has just as much if not more control.

false.

he's an actual air elemental (and immortal). she is not.

his control>hers.

lets see her do to grundy what he did...

It was even more impressive considering the body RT was in was designated to him by Grundy to nullify and weaken his powers. THe body was sick, he had his hand eaten in front of him by Grundy and he still owned him.

Stating he is an elemental is non-answer. Hydroman is an elemenal and Stardust is elemental-esque, and she managed to easily take control of them.

Do you have any showings of his superior control?

Storm can use winds that resemble TK-like control.

All this in conjuction with her many many ofther powers and she takes the majority.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
It was even more impressive considering the body RT was in was designated to him by Grundy to nullify and weaken his powers. THe body was sick, he had his hand eaten in front of him by Grundy and he still owned him.

And this was the first time RT ever felt pain, yeah?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Stating he is an elemental is non-answer. Hydroman is an elemenal and Stardust is elemental-esque, and she managed to easily take control of them.

Do you have any showings of his superior control?

Storm can use winds that resemble TK-like control.

All this in conjuction with her many many ofther powers and she takes the majority.

we're not talking hydroman, or even iceman level elementalness here... he's as close to an actual wind god as there is in DC...

so no, its not a non-answer if you take the statement in context and stop trying to twist it around...

Originally posted by pr1983
we're not talking hydroman, or even iceman level elementalness here... he's as close to an actual wind god as there is in DC...

so no, its not a non-answer if you take the statement in context and stop trying to twist it around...

Storm also beat the Elemental gods who composed and entire dimension with incalcuable power.

She stands a chance of winning.

Originally posted by pr1983
we're not talking hydroman, or even iceman level elementalness here... he's as close to an actual wind god as there is in DC...

so no, its not a non-answer if you take the statement in context and stop trying to twist it around...

Storm>>Trion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>RT

Originally posted by pr1983
we're not talking hydroman, or even iceman level elementalness here... he's as close to an actual wind god as there is in DC...

so no, its not a non-answer if you take the statement in context and stop trying to twist it around...

You're comparing Iceman to Hydroman?

Originally posted by llagrok
And this was the first time RT ever felt pain, yeah? maybe it was i mean he was a machine before.

Ok it's arguable that RT's winds are more powerful than Storm's, but she has far more than that in her arsenal .

Storm's powerset ...Storm is one of the most powerful mutants in the Marvel Universe. She has demonstrated a plethora of abilities, all of which are facets of her power to control the weather.
Storm possesses the ability to control all forms of weather. She can control the temperature of the environment, control all forms of precipitation, humidity and moisture, coalescence toxic atmospheric pollutants into acid rain or toxic fog, control the wind to elevate herself to fly at high altitudes and speeds, generate lightning and other electromagnetic atmospheric phenomena, and has demonstrated excellent control over atmospheric pressure. She can produce all forms of meteorological tempests, such as tornadoes, thunderstorms, blizzards, and hurricanes, and can dissipate such weather to form clear skies as well.
Besides the atmosphere, Storm has demonstrated the ability to control natural forces that include cosmic storms, solar wind, ocean currents and the electromagnetic field. She can create electric, magnetic, and electromagnetic fields and has demonstrated the ability to create electrolytic fields to separate water molecules into oxygen and hydrogen. While in outer space, she is able to affect and manipulate the interstellar and intergalactic mediums. Storm can alter her visual perceptions so as to see the universe in terms of energy patterns, detecting the flow of the electromagnetic fields behind weather phenomena, machines, and nervous systems.
Storm has shown to be sensitive to the dynamics of the natural world. One consequence of this connection to nature is that she often suppresses extreme feelings to prevent her emotional state from resulting in violent weather. She has sensed a diseased and dying tree on the X-Men mansion grounds, detected objects within various atmospheric mediums--including water, sensed the incorrect motion of a hurricane in the Northern Hemisphere and the gravitational stress on the tides by the Moon and Sun as well as the distortion of a planet's magnetosphere
Storm's mutant abilities are limited by her willpower and the strength of her body. Her character has been described as being a "omega-level mutant."

Red Tornado's powerset ...Aerokinesis: Red Tornado's true form was a powerful entity composed purely of violent wind forces. His android form channeled these forces through his arms and legs to produce bursts of cyclone-force winds and high speed forward velocity. An F5 tornado has winds of about 315 mph. His cyclone-force winds can be projected at over 350 mph.


Air Blasts: Can project his whirlwinds at over 350mph from each arm. His winds are said to level a building in seconds.
Flight: By channeling these cyclone-force winds through the lower part of his body, he can fly at incredible speeds or hover in one place.
Invisibility: On occasion, Red Tornado used his high-velocity movement to render himself invisible to unaided human vision.
Deflection: Also is able to deflect approaching objects with ease.
Force Field: able to circulate the high force winds around himself or an extended area to protect himself and/or others from attacks and flying debris.
Tornado Creation: can create tornados and twisters with destructive winds.

Superhuman Strength: the level of which has not been determined at this time

Superhuman Durability: Has been seen taking a missile head on and coming out unharmed.

Superhuman Equilibrium: Gyroscopes and Stabilizers, located in several parts of his body, allows him to have an incredible sense of balance. He has claimed he can balance on a single toe for three days straight.

Resurrection: After death, RT's soul is able to return to his robot shell within 24 hours as long as his body is able to function.

you took that straight from wiki didn't you... not much of a good source for power.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Storm also beat the Elemental gods who composed and entire dimension with incalcuable power.

She stands a chance of winning.


Did she now?

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Originally posted by Madvillain
Did she now?



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2dam your a ****ing idiot and you know it

Originally posted by 2damnloud


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She didn't do it under her own power. She states herself that she's somehow able to tap into their own power source and use it against them. She doesn't have that option in a fight like this.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
She didn't do it under her own power. She states herself that she's somehow able to tap into their own power source and use it against them. She doesn't have that option in a fight like this.

How would that not be "under her own power" when her power IS to tap into the elements of an enviroment?

Did you also miss the Trion stating that THEY THEMSELVES were the elemental forces of that reality, no outside source. So she was tapping into THEM to defeat THEM.

How does that not apply to this fight when she is able to tap into and usurp the elements away from more powerful beings than RT?

Not to mention she has more powerful winds.

She wins.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
She didn't do it under her own power. She states herself that she's somehow able to tap into their own power source and use it against them. She doesn't have that option in a fight like this.

Wrong. I think you misunderstood the whole thing. Storm controls the energy/forces that governs whatever environment/reality/universe she's in. In that reality, she merely controlled the forces that governs it as she does in her home reality. There, the forces were very different from her own, but she controlled it nontheless because that is her power. The Trion were those forces given form and thus were the sum of the entire reality's past/present/future and had dominion over those very forces that composed that reality. Storm, being her insanely powerful self, was able to command those forces even greater than the abstracts of that reality and defeat them.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
How would that not be "under her own power" when her power IS to tap into the elements of an enviroment?

Did you also miss the Trion stating that THEY THEMSELVES were the elemental forces of that reality, no outside source. So she was tapping into THEM to defeat THEM.

How does that not apply to this fight when she is able to tap into and usurp the elements away from more powerful beings than RT?

Not to mention she has more powerful winds.

She wins.

Not to mention that its stated in canon that none of the weather's manifestations can directly harm her which includes winds. That and RT's powers are a joke compared to the Trion. Storm wins this fight easily.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Wrong. I think you misunderstood the whole thing. Storm controls the energy/forces that governs whatever environment/reality/universe she's in. In that reality, she merely controlled the forces that governs it as she does in her home reality. There, the forces were very different from her own, but she controlled it nontheless because that is her power. The Trion were those forces given form and thus were the sum of the entire reality's past/present/future and had dominion over those very forces that composed that reality. Storm, being her insanely powerful self, was able to command those forces even greater than the abstracts of that reality and defeat them.

Not to mention that the governing forces were SENTIENT and much more powerful than RT.

Storm wins.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
you took that straight from wiki didn't you... not much of a good source for power.

ok then...

http://www.marvel.com/universe3zx/images/e/e2/Storm_inline.jpg
Powers
Storm is a mutant who possesses the psionic ability to manipulate weather patterns over limited areas. She can stimulate the creation of any form of precipitation such as rain or fog, generate winds in varying degrees of intensity up to and including hurricane force, raise or lower the humidity and temperature in her immediate vicinity, induce lightning and other electrical atmospheric phenomena, and disperse natural storms so as to create clear change. Storm can direct the path of certain atmospheric effects, such as bolts of lightning, with her hands. She has also demonstrated the ability to manipulate ocean currents, though the extent of this ability is still unclear.


still Storn ftw dj dance

Storm is a gorgeous, sexy, powerhouse of a mutant. It's what she started out being from day one and what she still is.

Red Tornado may have been built-up over the past few years to be powerful and impressive, but I go back with this character quite a ways, and I just can't get past the fact that he started out as a rather goofy robot with a cooking pan for a helmet.

Got to give the win to Storm.