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Superman isnt invulnerable and he dont have super speed. Fights at normal human speed. He has everything else. Who wins. By the way even though he is a normal in durability, his powers still dont have an effect on him.

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He flies into the air and roasts Wolverine with heat vision hotter than the core of the Sun.

Game.

Set.

Match.

Superman.

If he is not invulnerable his heat vision would kill him, unless you think being able to stand it is another unrelated power.

I almost forgot superman cant fly either

Originally posted by Bentley
If he is not invulnerable his heat vision would kill him, unless you think being able to stand it is another unrelated power.

"By the way even though he is a normal in durability, his powers still dont have an effect on him."

Fine. Superman breathes on Wolverine, freezing him in place, and THEN roasts him at temperatures hotter than the core of the sun.

Oh yeah, then Logan is melted.

add this to the match. Wolverine isnt just going to stand there and let someone that is much slower than him hit him with heat vision. People always seems to forget that the other person will be moving also.

Originally posted by Bentley
If he is not invulnerable his heat vision would kill him, unless you think being able to stand it is another unrelated power.

I put that in my post that superman powers dont have an effect on him.

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Wolverine WON'T be moving.

Superman breathed on him, remember?

If he really has human speed then Howlett can blitz him.

Originally posted by Bentley
Bf he really has human speed then Howlett can blitz him.

Thanks alot. You know what your talking about.
Wolverine should be able to dodge anything that superman does, since he is moving at human speed and wolverine kills 1000's of ninjas in comics that speed is >>>>>humans and he dont get touched.

Originally posted by Bentley
Bf he really has human speed then Howlett can blitz him.

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Seriously.

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If you really think that Wolverine can blitz him before he can BREATHE.....

You could chop off Superman's arms and legs too, still won't matter.

Supes screams at him and Wolvie runs away like a little girl.

Wolverine wins easily. He speedblitzes and decapitates Superman.

Originally posted by Soljer
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Seriously.

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If you really think that Wolverine can blitz him before he can BREATHE.....

Wolverine can dodge superman before he breathes. Wolverine does have enhanced senses so he would know that superman is about to do some kind of attack and wolverine is fast enough to dodge it. Please dont let me post some speed feats of wolverine. He can run circles around superman in that state.

To hurt Wolverine Supes has his vision that goes to the speed of thought, speed blitz is pretty much being faster than reaction. Regular non conscious breaths from Clark won't do the trick.

The issue we are discussing here is distance.

Seriously, this is like giving the edge to my Pug in a fight just because I'm fighting him on all fours.

Shouldn't really take this guy seriously.

Yeah, Hulk gets this kind of stipulations all the time.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/Superman/015-SupermanBatman010Rembrandt-DCP.jpg

Originally posted by Juntai
Shouldn't really take this guy seriously.

Why not take me seriously because I dont vote for the same people that you vote for to win battles. Everyone have there own opinions, when I see someone opinion, I dont down them I just tell them why I think that they would win. Thats there opinion, if they made a battle with galactus vs jubilee, if someone chooses jubilee then hey its there opinion but i will show scans to prove that they dont know what the hell theyre talking about.

Just like me and you were arguing in the cannonball vs superman fight. You didnt tell me one way that superman can beat cannonball sense he does absorb kinetic energy now and he is invulnerable (fury couldnt even hurt him) and once you hit him you get hit back with the same force you hit him with.

You never told me any way that superman could beat him, you just told me that he could. Thats like me saying that Hulk can beat silver surfer but dont give a reason to back it up. You didnt have a way for superman to beat him so you started downing the people that voted for him. A lot of people do that on this forum, to xmeat, sometimes to master bruce, etc... if you pick someone tell me how they would win, thats all im asking for.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p04.jpg

Enough speed to dodge that blast.

Originally posted by carver9
Why not take me seriously because I dont vote for the same people that you vote for to win battles. Everyone have there own opinions, when I see someone opinion, I dont down them I just tell them why I think that they would win. Thats there opinion, if they made a battle with galactus vs jubilee, if someone chooses jubilee then hey its there opinion but i will show scans to prove that they dont know what the hell theyre talking about.

Just like me and you were arguing in the cannonball vs superman fight. You didnt tell me one way that superman can beat cannonball sense he does absorb kinetic energy now and he is invulnerable (fury couldnt even hurt him) and once you hit him you get hit back with the same force you hit him with.

You never told me any way that superman could beat him, you just told me that he could. Thats like me saying that Hulk can beat silver surfer but dont give a reason to back it up. You didnt have a way for superman to beat him so you started downing the people that voted for him. A lot of people do that on this forum, to xmeat, sometimes to master bruce, etc... if you pick someone tell me how they would win, thats all im asking for.

Because this fight is retarded. And even with your jackass stips, Superman still obliterates Logan.

What the hell is canonball gonna do to Superman? nothing. he can't hurt him. and he'll run out of gas eventually. Hell, he barely beat Gladiator, he's ****ed against supes.

Hulk beating Surfer is retarded, because they have fought at least 3 times, and Surfer bitchslapped him all 3 times.

And Soljer just gave you at least 3-4 ways Superman can win this fight.

Originally posted by Soljer
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Seriously.

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If you really think that Wolverine can blitz him before he can BREATHE.....

crylaugh

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Because this fight is retarded. And even with your jackass stips, Superman still obliterates Logan.

What the hell is canonball gonna do to Superman? nothing. he can't hurt him. and he'll run out of gas eventually. Hell, he barely beat Gladiator, he's ****ed against supes.

Hulk beating Surfer is retarded, because they have fought at least 3 times, and Surfer bitchslapped him all 3 times.

And Soljer just gave you at least 3-4 ways Superman can win this fight.

I wasnt saying that hulk could beat surfer, I was just using examples and they were the character that came to mind. Tell me how superman is going to beat cannonball when fury couldnt. Superman has no way of beating cannonball, unleeeeeees superman has become a magical being that can go through cannonball force field. Cannonball took fury's best shot and took a punch from gladiator that was going to take him to the core of the sun.

To me (I know Im about to get cursed out about this) gladiator>> superman strength. The reason why I say this is because gladiator has moved planets solo but superman needed the aid of wonderwoman and martian manhunter to move a moon.

To me (I know Im about to get cursed out again) gladiator>>>superman speed. The reason why I say this is because even though people say that superman moves at the speed of light, I have never witness it saying it in any book. You all use him flying from here to there. I have actually read in a book with gladiator in it (do you see that I put READ) that gladiator was going 100 times the speed of light. The only time that I seen superman come close to that speed was when he was in a black hole and that could have helped his speed.

Cannonball took a punch from one of the most strongest beings in marvel universe and stood there without budging and delivered a punch back at him (that was at the same strength that gladiator hit him with). Superman has no way to beat cannonball where as cannonball could take superman strongest punch and hit him back with it that could luckily end up with a koed superman.

Also you do know that cannonball absorb kinetic energy. Superman heat vision, will be absorb making cannonball more powerful. Superman super breath would make cannonball more powerful and not even have an effect on cannonball. Superman superstrength would get absorbed. What other options do superman have.

Originally posted by carver9
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v700/dprfla/xmen_v2_133_p04.jpg

Enough speed to dodge that blast.

Not too sure what is happening in the first panel (if anything) and it looks as if the gunman missed in the second one.
Plus Supes took out multiple people in the heat vision blast that was shown. I don't think Wolverine can dodge it.

Originally posted by The Pict
Not too sure what is happening in the first panel (if anything) and it looks as if the gunman missed in the second one.
Plus Supes took out multiple people in the heat vision blast that was shown. I don't think Wolverine can dodge it. Actually he annihilated an army pouring across the countryside.

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually he annihilated an army pouring across the countryside.

OK, my bad. I couldn't see it very well. More props to Supes then.

Just curious but was that a mind controlled Superman or something? I don't imagine him killing all those people.

Originally posted by The Pict
Not too sure what is happening in the first panel (if anything) and it looks as if the gunman missed in the second one.
Plus Supes took out multiple people in the heat vision blast that was shown. I don't think Wolverine can dodge it.

Ok, captain america can see bullets moving in slow motion. Wolverine>captain america speed. Wolverine can see and react before getting hit by superman. Wolverine has dodged blast from, phoenix, havok, cyclops,gladiator, ironman,etc....
What would make superman any different, especially since he is only moving at human speed. Wolverine speed blitz him before he reacts. Or wolverine just dodge his heat vision and then speed blitz him.

Ok, this dont make any sense to me. You all say that superman will speed blitz thor before he does anything because superman is faster but when superman is put against someone that is much faster than him he cant still get speed blitzed. Superman has a lot of fans. Superman can speed blitz but other people cant when he cant. WOW, I think Im about to

Originally posted by The Pict
OK, my bad. I couldn't see it very well. More props to Supes then.

Just curious but was that a mind controlled Superman or something? I don't imagine him killing all those people.

It wasnt people, it was a army of doomsday clones that didnt show any kind of speed and was even getting beat up by batman. Batman in that comic killed about 20 of them himself.

Wolverine>>>>>>doomsday clones (in that comic)
I can go as far as gambit >>>>> doomsday clones

Originally posted by carver9
It wasnt people, it was a army of doomsday clones that didnt show any kind of speed and was even getting beat up by batman. Batman in that comic killed about 20 of them himself.

You're missing the fact that the blast of HV is massive.

Originally posted by carver9
It wasnt people, it was a army of doomsday clones that didnt show any kind of speed and was even getting beat up by batman. Batman in that comic killed about 20 of them himself.

Was that in Batman/Superman? If so I actually read that. Bad memory.

Anyway Wolverine still won't be dodging the blast.

Originally posted by The Pict
Was that in Batman/Superman? If so I actually read that. Bad memory.

Anyway Wolverine still won't be dodging the blast.

He have dodged a lot bigger and has also taken a nuke to the chest and heal immediately.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/avalonofthewind/blownaway.jpg

Also got incinerated during the civil war saga (cant think of his name that did it) all the way down to the bone, no skin left and healed immediately.

Speed
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742029
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-18.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-17.jpg


Superman wont even get the chance to react.

taking a nuke and healing immediately
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742795

Superman uses ice breath and game over.

Originally posted by Estacado
Superman uses ice breath and game over.

How when he wont have time to even think about a ice breath.

Ice breath followed by a toss into the sun, a strategy given to him by The Sentry. I read this in a bio.

Originally posted by carver9
How when he wont have time to even think about a ice breath.
The speed Superman uses for this thought processes is entirely independent of his conventional super speed. This was shown in the OYL Superman arc.

Originally posted by carver9
WOW, I think Im about to

You want to know what makes me want to puke? How you think a guy with claws and low level superhuman physical stats is gonna punk a guy with heat vision, T-Vo, ice breath, a high frequency sonic attack, super reflexes (you never said anything about limiting his reflexes, just his combat and travelling speed), etc.

Shit, give me the heat vision or ice breath ALONE and I'd still own the shit out of Wolverine.

If you think Wolverine is going to jump across the battle field and slash at Superman before he simply LOOKS at Logan, then you're more retarded than I originally thought. And trust me, I never held you very high on the totem pole in the first place.

I was assuming Supes had not super speed of any kind, not super reflexes or process. I also said it depends to distance, and any ranged fight would be in the monster powered ex-brick.

Originally posted by Validus
Ice breath followed by a toss into the sun, a strategy given to him by The Sentry. I read this in a bio.

are you still stuck on that bio thing. I havent posted a bio in a long time. By the way wolverine has a chance to react before superman pull out a heat or ice attack. Do you not see the scans of wolverine speed compared to a human.

If superman even thinks about trying to throw wolverine into the sun he is dead. With superman being much slower than wolverine, wolverine can attack before superman can and land a blow much faster than superman. Like I said hand ninja>>>>>>human speed and wolverine carve them up before they even think about an attack.

Originally posted by batdude123
You want to know what makes me want to puke? How you think a guy with claws and low level superhuman physical stats is gonna punk a guy with heat vision, T-Vo, ice breath, a high frequency sonic attack, super reflexes (you never said anything about limiting his reflexes, just his combat and travelling speed), etc.

Shit, give me the heat vision or ice breath ALONE and I'd still own the shit out of Wolverine.

If you think Wolverine is going to jump across the battle field and slash at Superman before he simply LOOKS at Logan, then you're more retarded than I originally thought. And trust me, I never held you very high on the totem pole in the first place.

Blasphemy! Wolverine pawns all!!!!!

Originally posted by carver9
are you still stuck on that bio thing. I havent posted a bio in a long time. By the way wolverine has a chance to react before superman pull out a heat or ice attack. Do you not see the scans of wolverine speed compared to a human.

If superman even thinks about trying to throw wolverine into the sun he is dead. With superman being much slower than wolverine, wolverine can attack before superman can and land a blow much faster than superman. Like I said hand ninja>>>>>>human speed and wolverine carve them up before they even think about an attack.
Too bad that Superman is not a human....

You're using hand ninjas to prove Wolverine can beat Kal? ermmnone

Yeah, I thought that was odd too.

Originally posted by Validus
You're using hand ninjas to prove Wolverine can beat Kal? ermmnone That style of debating is why I have him on ignore, and recommended earlier in the thread that no one take the kid seriously.

Originally posted by carver9
are you still stuck on that bio thing. I havent posted a bio in a long time. By the way wolverine has a chance to react before superman pull out a heat or ice attack. Do you not see the scans of wolverine speed compared to a human.

If superman even thinks about trying to throw wolverine into the sun he is dead. With superman being much slower than wolverine, wolverine can attack before superman can and land a blow much faster than superman. Like I said hand ninja>>>>>>human speed and wolverine carve them up before they even think about an attack.

Superman's reflexes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Logan's.

You never said his reflexes were hindered, just his speed.

This fight lasts all but one second (maybe less). One look, and Logan is melted.



If Spetz were on right now, he'd have a heart attack.

And when he got back from the hospital, he'd beat the shit out of carver.

Originally posted by batdude123
You want to know what makes me want to puke? How you think a guy with claws and low level superhuman physical stats is gonna punk a guy with heat vision, T-Vo, ice breath, a high frequency sonic attack, super reflexes (you never said anything about limiting his reflexes, just his combat and travelling speed), etc.

Shit, give me the heat vision or ice breath ALONE and I'd still own the shit out of Wolverine.

If you think Wolverine is going to jump across the battle field and slash at Superman before he simply LOOKS at Logan, then you're more retarded than I originally thought. And trust me, I never held you very high on the totem pole in the first place.

lol out loud. Well thats your opinion. Im not going to stoop to your level with insults but i am going to say that lex beat the hell out of superman in a fist to fist fight but lex fighting wolverine without wolverine letting him wouldnt dream about letting lex him.

I can tell on these forums that superman isnt going to lose, no matter what you take away from him. You have someone that has tagged quicksilver and speed demon against someone that dont have no kind of speed and he still lose.

Wolverine has a good chance to dodge superman or even get there before superman even attack (showed you 3 scans of this) but superman still wins.

Originally posted by Estacado
Too bad that Superman is not a human....

I know that he isnt a human but he have human speed.

Originally posted by carver9
lol out loud.
ermmnone

Originally posted by Validus
ermmnone

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman's reflexes>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Logan's.

You never said his reflexes were hindered, just his speed.

This fight lasts all but one second (maybe less). One look, and Logan is melted.



If Spetz were on right now, he'd have a heart attack.

And when he got back from the hospital, he'd beat the shit out of carver.

You know to have quick reflexes you would need to have speed to cover it. Superman reflexes is worth sh** in this fight. Why the hell didnt superman use his quick reflexes when solomon grundy slapped him around, wait let me guess because solomon grundy has super speed also.

Why didnt superman use super reflexes when equus slashed him across the chest. I can keep going with the people that have tagged superman that dont have any sort of speed but superman has quick reflexes.

Originally posted by Validus
ermmnone

Im referring to this battle he have human speed.

Originally posted by carver9
You know to have quick reflexes you would need to have speed to cover it. Superman reflexes is worth sh** in this fight. Why the hell didnt superman use his quick reflexes when solomon grundy slapped him around, wait let me guess because solomon grundy has super speed also.

Why didnt superman use super reflexes when equus slashed him across the chest. I can keep going with the people that have tagged superman that dont have any sort of speed but superman has quick reflexes.

CIS?

Originally posted by carver9
lol out loud.

Laugh out loud out loud?

ermmnone

Originally posted by carver9
Well thats your opinion. Im not going to stoop to your level with insults but i am going to say that lex beat the hell out of superman in a fist to fist fight but lex fighting wolverine without wolverine letting him wouldnt dream about letting lex him.

And when the hell has Lex ever done this without use of kryptonite?

In Post Crisis continuity, even?

H2H fight means shit here anyway, considering Kal has all of his other attacks here sans durability and super speed.

Originally posted by carver9
I can tell on these forums that superman isnt going to lose, no matter what you take away from him. You have someone that has tagged quicksilver and speed demon against someone that dont have no kind of speed and he still lose.

So, you made this fight because your pissed Superman is so much better than your favorite character?

Ouch, you just pwned yourself, kid.

And the reason Superman still wins this fight is because he's so far above Wolverine in the first place it's not even funny.

Originally posted by carver9
Wolverine has a good chance to dodge superman or even get there before superman even attack (showed you 3 scans of this) but superman still wins.

I don't understand why you're not getting this.

Superman's reflexes are 1000000X better than Logan's.

Logan isn't dodging shit here.

by the way Im not the only one that agreed that superman will lose this and it seems to be the same people that is arguing that superman will win this fight that is always on superman vs thread voting for him. Validus,batdude123,Juntai, i have never seen you all vote against superman, ever. I have went to about 5 superman fight and everyone I went to, you all are them (batdude123 your not on all of them but some.) and you voted for superman on every last one of them. No wonder you get angry when someone vote against superman. When you all put a comment and its in a superman thread, if i have to talk against you, whatever comment you put Im going to agree with it because its pointless to argue with people that only vote for one person.

Originally posted by carver9
by the way Im not the only one that agreed that superman will lose this and it seems to be the same people that is arguing that superman will win this fight that is always on superman vs thread voting for him. Validus,batdude123,Juntai, i have never seen you all vote against superman, ever. I have went to about 5 superman fight and everyone I went to, you all are them (batdude123 your not on all of them but some.) and you voted for superman on every last one of them. No wonder you get angry when someone vote against superman. When you all put a comment and its in a superman thread, if i have to talk against you, whatever comment you put Im going to agree with it because its pointless to argue with people that only vote for one person.

try putting Superman against Thanos, Thor, Silver Surfer, etc ... and I'm sure some of 'these people' will vote against Superman

Originally posted by carver9
You know to have quick reflexes you would need to have speed to cover it. Superman reflexes is worth sh** in this fight. Why the hell didnt superman use his quick reflexes when solomon grundy slapped him around, wait let me guess because solomon grundy has super speed also.

Where were Wolverine's reflexes or god-like fighting skills when Cyclops judo flipped him over his head?

Where were Wolverine's reflexes when he was pwned by a deer? crylaugh

Your shitty logic can be applied to a lot of things.

Reflexes determine who gets the first attack in this fight. Who needs speed when your reflexes are better and you can just look at someone to beat them?

Naturally, since Superman's reflexes are so much better than Wolverine's, one zap and Wolverine is fried.

Originally posted by carver9
Why didnt superman use super reflexes when equus slashed him across the chest. I can keep going with the people that have tagged superman that dont have any sort of speed but superman has quick reflexes.

The same Equus he speedblitzed the shit out of?

Correct, Superman's reflexes are a million times better than Logan's. And that's really being generous to the little furball.

Originally posted by batdude123
Laugh out loud out loud?

ermmnone



And when the hell has Lex ever done this without use of kryptonite?

In Post Crisis continuity, even?

H2H fight means shit here anyway, considering Kal has all of his other attacks here sans durability and super speed.



So, you made this fight because your pissed Superman is so much better than your favorite character?

Ouch, you just pwned yourself, kid.

And the reason Superman still wins this fight is because he's so far above Wolverine in the first place it's not even funny.



I don't understand why you're not getting this.

Superman's reflexes are 1000000X better than Logan's.

Logan isn't dodging shit here.

Yo dont seem to get that superman has human speed so his reflex aint shit without speed. If you gave quick silver good reflexes and cap have good reflexes, who reflexe would shine more, quicksilver because he have speed to back it up. Superman speed is gone, diminished, waisted, drained, invisible, soak up, (cant think of anything else but you get it.). There was no need to get rid of any kind of reflexe since he dont have any kind of speed to back it up.

I know how far superman is over wolverine. I know how great of a character superman is (one of my favorite). I know how powerful superman is but what makes him what he is, is his durability and speed. Without that a man with a gun could kill him.

By the way wolverine isnt my favorite character, hes one of my favorites (him and supes is about a tie.) but my favorite is juggernaut. If you look at all the juggernaut fights you will see my post on there.

I have no reason to be pissed at superman since I do by his comics. I just hate the fact that on these forums the guy never lose when there are people that is a 1000 times more powerful than him.

Originally posted by masterbruce
try putting Superman against Thanos, Thor, Silver Surfer, etc ... and I'm sure some of 'these people' will vote against Superman

I already been to those threads and they voted for superman on each of them. I didnt go to the thanos thread yet, Im going now to see who they voted for.

Originally posted by batdude123
Where were Wolverine's reflexes or god-like fighting skills when Cyclops judo flipped him over his head?

Where were Wolverine's reflexes when he was pwned by a deer? crylaugh

Your shitty logic can be applied to a lot of things.

Reflexes determine who gets the first attack in this fight. Who needs speed when your reflexes are better and you can just look at someone to beat them?

Naturally, since Superman's reflexes are so much better than Wolverine's, one zap and Wolverine is fried.



The same Equus he speedblitzed the shit out of?

Correct, Superman's reflexes are a million times better than Logan's. And that's really being generous to the little furball.

I do agree with you superman reflexes is a million times faster than wolverine IF SUPERMAN DIDNT HAVE HUMAN SPEED. Answer this for me, who reflexes is better, mines or bruce lee.

Originally posted by carver9
Yo dont seem to get that superman has human speed so his reflex aint shit without speed. If you gave quick silver good reflexes and cap have good reflexes, who reflexe would shine more, quicksilver because he have speed to back it up. Superman speed is gone, diminished, waisted, drained, invisible, soak up, (cant think of anything else but you get it.). There was no need to get rid of any kind of reflexe sense he dont have any kind of speed to back it up.

Are you seriously that dense?

Faster reflexes equates to faster thought processing speed which equates to the first move being made in a fight.

Regardless if I have human speed or not, I can still see you moving in super slow motion. Then all I have to do is fry you with my heat vision and the game is over.

It's the same situation here. It doesn't matter that he has normal speed or not... Wolverine's going down.

It's almost sad how you don't get that.

Originally posted by carver9
Yo dont seem to get that superman has human speed so his reflex aint shit without speed. If you gave quick silver good reflexes and cap have good reflexes, who reflexe would shine more, quicksilver because he have speed to back it up. Superman speed is gone, diminished, waisted, drained, invisible, soak up, (cant think of anything else but you get it.). There was no need to get rid of any kind of reflexe since he dont have any kind of speed to back it up.

I know how far superman is over wolverine. I know how great of a character superman is (one of my favorite). I know how powerful superman is but what makes him what he is, is his durability and speed. Without that a man with a gun could kill him.

By the way wolverine isnt my favorite character, hes one of my favorites (him and supes is about a tie.) but my favorite is juggernaut. If you look at all the juggernaut fights you will see my post on there.

I have no reason to be pissed at superman since I do by his comics. I just hate the fact that on these forums the guy never lose when there are people that is a 1000 times more powerful than him.

GET EM! gunsmilie

Originally posted by carver9
I do agree with you superman reflexes is a million times faster than wolverine IF SUPERMAN DIDNT HAVE HUMAN SPEED. Answer this for me, who reflexes is better, mines or bruce lee.

Superman's reflexes are entirely separate from how fast he moves.

So this "point" your trying to make is entirely moot.

Originally posted by carver9
I already been to those threads and they voted for superman on each of them. I didnt go to the thanos thread yet, Im going now to see who they voted for.
Superman Vs Thor = 87 to 58 in favor of Thor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/344165_1-superman-vs-thor

Superman Vs Silver Surfer = 162 to 82
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/29475_1-silver-surfer-vs-superman

Trying to the paint KMC as Superman biased (because we think he can beat Wolverine haermm ) reeks of ignorance considering he was polled as the most hated character on this Vs forum.

Originally posted by batdude123
Superman's reflexes are entirely separate from how fast he moves.

So this "point" your trying to make is entirely moot.

You know he's right. Wolverine completely pawns Superman!!!! 2guns

Originally posted by Validus
Superman Vs Thor = 87 to 58 in favor of Thor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/344165_1-superman-vs-thor

Superman Vs Silver Surfer = 162 to 82
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/29475_1-silver-surfer-vs-superman

Trying to the paint KMC as Superman biased (because we think he can beat Wolverine haermm ) reeks of ignorance considering he was polled as the most hated character on this Vs forum.

Come on now, you know Superman loses to Wolverine. boxing

Originally posted by Validus
Superman Vs Thor = 87 to 58 in favor of Thor
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/344165_1-superman-vs-thor

Superman Vs Silver Surfer = 162 to 82
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/29475_1-silver-surfer-vs-superman

Trying to the paint KMC as Superman biased (because we think he can beat Wolverine haermm ) reeks of ignorance considering he was polled as the most hated character on this Vs forum. Yep, he certainly was.


At one time, he was actually behind Hulk in the Superman vs Hulk thread, but that was a long time ago. He since passed him up by a long shot.

I forgot the Thanos/Superman thread. 69-26 Thanos.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=434228

Let's not forget this little gem.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/335878_1-silver-surfer-thor-vs-jla

Originally posted by Juntai
Yep, he certainly was.


At one time, he was actually behind Hulk in the Superman vs Hulk thread, but that was a long time ago. He since passed him up by a long shot.

Well that isn't right. The Hulk definitely pawns Superman. What poster in their right mind would think otherwise?

Now I never said that hulk would beat superman, Ever, when superman has every power that hulk has plus more. Juntai you have no reason to talk since on every one of those threads that Validus put up you voted for superman.

By the way I know for a fact that a full powered superman would destroy wolverine in his sleep but a superman that has a weakness (like normal human speed and cant fly) will fall but like I said thats my opinion and trust me I wont down your opinion because some of them were good opinions.

....Heat vision that spreads large enough to engulf a moon. Wolverine can't dodge it. Game over.

.

Originally posted by Soljer
....Heat vision that spreads large enough to engulf a moon. Wolverine can't dodge it. Game over.

.

no offense, but that would seem like a PIS feat.

Originally posted by batdude123
Where were Wolverine's reflexes or god-like fighting skills when Cyclops judo flipped him over his head?

Where were Wolverine's reflexes when he was pwned by a deer? crylaugh

Your shitty logic can be applied to a lot of things.

Reflexes determine who gets the first attack in this fight. Who needs speed when your reflexes are better and you can just look at someone to beat them?

Naturally, since Superman's reflexes are so much better than Wolverine's, one zap and Wolverine is fried.



The same Equus he speedblitzed the shit out of?

Correct, Superman's reflexes are a million times better than Logan's. And that's really being generous to the little furball.
so no low end feats are the norm?


ya cyclopes judo throwing wolverine made a lot of sense

ugg superman wins, but don't be putting such carbage events that are very low end feats for wolverine.

Originally posted by masterbruce
no offense, but that would seem like a PIS feat.

.....



Why would that be PIS? What plot point did it serve?

Originally posted by capt it up
so no low end feats are the norm?


ya cyclopes judo throwing wolverine made a lot of sense

ugg superman wins, but don't be putting such carbage events that are very low end feats for wolverine.

You misunderstood my post.

Carver was using low showings to "try" to back his claims. I merely applied his own logic in the other direction to show him how faulty his reasoning was.

I don't use those as the norm for Wolverine at all.

Originally posted by batdude123
You misunderstood my post.

Carver was using low showings to "try" to back his claims. I merely applied his own logic in the other direction to show him how faulty his reasoning was.

I don't use those as the norm for Wolverine at all.
oh my bad I missed what carver had typed



oh by the way how you been? Have not seen you in quite a while.

Originally posted by capt it up
oh my bad I missed what carver had typed



oh by the way how you been? Have not seen you in quite a while.

I'm pretty good, capt.

You?

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm pretty good, capt.

You?


not bad schools almost over.


were have you been? You have not posted much for the last month or more. What you been up too? Did you have a nice easter?

Originally posted by capt it up
not bad schools almost over.


were have you been? You have not posted much for the last month or more. What you been up too? Did you have a nice easter?

I've been keeping pretty busy with school work. Easter was very nice for me.

How about you?

Originally posted by batdude123
I've been keeping pretty busy with work. Easter was very nice for me.

How about you?

How old are you?

Abomination vs Superman?
Originally posted by carver9
Classic abomination wins this. Noone can take hulk down with 3 punches and he accomplished that. It might take 4 punches for him to take supes out of the fight but it can be done.

Superman vs Hulk?
Originally posted by carver9
Im going to feel stupid for saying this because I always argued different but the more things that I see of hulk and what he is capable of, the more I believe that he could thrash superman. By the way on hulks bio (I still hate the hulk), it states that he is the strongest being to ever walk the earth and could be the strongest being in the universe.

Superman vs Apocalypse?
Originally posted by carver9
To me I think that apocalypse (since he does have the power to create or mimic any power that he wants) can beat mongul and I think that he would give superman hell and if apocalypse is written correctly or use his power effectively I think that he can also beat superman.


canonball vs Superman vs Captain Marvel
Originally posted by carver9
cannonball wins. He does have the ability to absorb kinetic energy and that all that the other two dish out.

Thor vs Superman
Originally posted by carver9
thor 9/10 without the power gem, just regular thor.


and now Wolverine vs Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Speed
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742029
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-18.jpg

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b317/crfroma/Wolverinev1-068-17.jpg


Superman wont even get the chance to react.

taking a nuke and healing immediately
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4742795

Originally posted by His Airness
How old are you?

Check my edited post.

Might put your mind at ease. ermm

Originally posted by batdude123
I've been keeping pretty busy with school work. Easter was very nice for me.

How about you?

that sucks that you have been busy with work what do you do? My easter was great I was able to relax for a bit.

Originally posted by capt it up
that sucks that you have been busy with work what do you do? My easter was great I was able to relax for a bit.

I go to school.

Check the edited post.

Originally posted by batdude123
Check my edited post.

Might put your mind at ease. ermm

Under or above 20?

Originally posted by batdude123
I go to school.

Check the edited post.
hahahahaha my bad lol. Were do you go to school? I am guessing your in college like my self?

I just looked at Batdude's profile. Who knew this section of KMC had so many cool people? shrug

*NOTE*: Zero sarcasm in above sentence

Originally posted by His Airness
Under or above 20?

Under.

Originally posted by capt it up
hahahahaha my bad lol. Were do you go to school? I am guessing your in college like my self?

IU

Originally posted by batdude123
IU
What's IU?

Originally posted by Validus
I just looked at Batdude's profile. Who knew this section of KMC had so many cool people? shrug

*NOTE*: Zero sarcasm in above sentence

Do you wanna be taken off? ermmnone

Originally posted by Validus
I just looked at Batdude's profile. Who knew this section of KMC had so many cool people? shrug

*NOTE*: Zero sarcasm in above sentence Yeah too bad those guys dont post more and we get guys like Carver instead.

Originally posted by Validus
What's IU?



Indiana University.

Hey Validus, whereabouts are you in IL?

Uhh, nevermind, your location says Chicago.
doh.

Originally posted by batdude123


Indiana University.
It could have been Iowa or your way of saying U of I(llinois) which is where I go. ermmnone

Who here besides Batdude is in College?

Originally posted by Validus
It could have been Iowa or your way of saying U of I(llinois) which is where I go. ermmnone You go to U of I in Champaign?
I'm in Bloomington.

Originally posted by His Airness
Who here besides Batdude is in College?

leftright

Originally posted by Validus
It could have been Iowa or your way of saying U of I(llinois) which is where I go. ermmnone

haermm @ me going to Iowa.

Originally posted by Juntai
I'm in Bloomington.



Do you go to the comic store on campus?

Originally posted by Validus
I just looked at Batdude's profile. Who knew this section of KMC had so many cool people? shrug

*NOTE*: Zero sarcasm in above sentence

I didn't make the list..............

Originally posted by Juntai
You go to U of I in Champaign?
I'm in Bloomington.
Yup. I say Chicago because its where my parents stay. Plus Champaign is boring as hell when the basketball season ends. ermmnone

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I didn't make the list..............

You sure about that? ermmnone

Originally posted by batdude123
IU
cool I go to hartford university

Originally posted by batdude123
You sure about that? ermmnone

Wusha. thanks dude.

Originally posted by capt it up
cool I go to hartford university

How do you like it?

Originally posted by batdude123
How do you like it?
not bad hows your school? I may transferr schools though

Originally posted by His Airness
Who here besides Batdude is in College? UCF

Originally posted by capt it up
not bad hows your school? I may transferr schools though

I love IU.

Originally posted by batdude123
I love IU.
thats good dude .

Originally posted by Big Sexy
UCF UFC?
What fighter are you then?

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
UFC?
What fighter are you then? Andre arlowski I'm wearing the teeth now.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Andre arlowski I'm wearing the teeth now. I was actually going to ask if you were him...
And then say that you're my idol!
in_love

*you spelt your name wrong*

F*cking no show post...

Originally posted by WorldWarHulk
I was actually going to ask if you were him...
And then say that you're my idol!
in_love

*you spelt your name wrong* Drunk plus Tim Sylvia still haunts me all the time . I see his face everywhere.

I wonder if the majority of this site is High school, College, or older.

And by this site, I mean the comic book section, .

I go to UNT, myself, but I transferred, and will be attending UT next semester.

Originally posted by Juntai
Abomination vs Superman?


Superman vs Hulk?


Superman vs Apocalypse?



canonball vs Superman vs Captain Marvel


Thor vs Superman



and now Wolverine vs Superman.

You got me, I admit my defeat. But now Im going to do the same to you about superman beating everyone but i dont know how you bring the old post up that someone typed.

Couldn't resist bumping this thread.

The last time anyone posted in this thread we didn't know Andrei Arlovski sucked yet. lol

Originally posted by abhilegend
Couldn't resist bumping this thread.

Why are you purposely pulling up these threads.? Can you stop that please.

Originally posted by carver9
Why are you purposely pulling up these threads.? Can you stop that please.

Think.

Originally posted by carver9
Why are you purposely pulling up these threads.? Can you stop that please.
Just for fun carv. If you are so sensitive, I would stop.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just for fun carv. If you are so sensitive, I would stop.

Lol...its not getting to me, I'm just trying to understand my thought process back then.

This thread topic is funny.