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It's sad...

Backward-ass people...





It's 2007, people.

At least they're making baby steps toward racial intergration.

Lol Americans , so funny.

It's Georgia. RURAL Georgia. Like swamps and stuff. We consider that portion of America, part of the Confederacy...

Swamps aye , fun. and I'm sorry , states that are apart of the confederacy lol. better?

I wonder if it was a black tie event at the white prom?

America is not integrated. It is just separation by choice. Not sure any place is much different.

Fair enough ,Its a big country , thats a lot of different opinions.

Racially Integrated Prom? That's messed up.

Originally posted by Draco69
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/23/turner.prom/index.html?eref=aol

It's sad...

Backward-ass people...





It's 2007, people.

At least they're making baby steps toward racial intergration.
OMG....

It's so funny how everybody fought so hard for integration, then in my highschool you see all the black kids sitting on one side of the cafateria, whites on the other, and hispanic kids in the middle.

Well, if a high school is racially integrated, wouldn't it follow that their proms would as well?

Which prom do the other races go to?

"The white people have theirs, and the black people have theirs. It's nothing racial at all."

Ha...haha...hahahah, is she for real?


Originally posted by Strangelove
Well, if a high school is racially integrated, wouldn't it follow that their proms would as well?

Well, since it was apparently privately organized proms...no...I guess not, no.

leave them be?

why is racial integration such an unquestionable "positive"/"good"?

the only types to profit out of it have been corporations. people generally retain the prejudices of the communities they were born into.
those that don't aren't likely to form new and lasting communities, since they will essentially be at odds with their own peoples' values and be alien to other peoples...


we all can get along, but we don't all need to inter-marry, having faith in each others gods or mouth pleasantries about each others foolish beliefs and garish tastes.


it's suffocating stuff.

Not having segregated proms is hardly a mass multi-culturaal integration love/fest you know.

Very much the thing to concentrate here is desegregation, not integreation.

Before it was segregated and if you really need to be explained that such segreation causes social troubles and is morally questionable then you are living in the wrong era.

segregation is a natural habit, its risk averse.
you go and look at how people are living, I live in what is, more or less a ghetto. I am an ethnic minority citizen of the UK.

there's nothing wrong with being segregated, as long as you are not imposing upon others nor attempting to abrogate powers to you and your kind that are the preserve of the state (like some people wish to do with shariah laws and halakah/kashurite laws).


racial prejudice cannot and will not be conditioned out of humanity. it's an absurd idea and doesn't really address why we have such prejudices. a "racialist" can be a good and valued man and a lovey-dovey hippie can be a corrosive and cancerous creature too...

Originally posted by Draco69
It's Georgia. RURAL Georgia. Like swamps and stuff. We consider that portion of America, part of the Confederacy...
right. educate yourself on the country.

Originally posted by Draco69
It's Georgia. RURAL Georgia. Like swamps and stuff.

Have you ever driven through SW Georgia?

I'm originally from Georgia and there are no swamps 160 miles south of Atlanta. Dirt roads, farmlands, and abandoned gas stations, yes. This city is near Albany, which has had flooding problems in the past but in no way can be called swamplands. They have LAKES and PONDS, and you're adding in this fabricated swamp thing to make it seem like it's out of Huckleberry Finn. If you're going to try to spruce up a "Look at me - I'm better than you!" argument, at least get your patronizing depictions correct.

The swamps are located in the southeastern tip of Georgia...far away from this area. I'm surprised you didn't say Ashburn was home of the grand wizard of the KKK. That location is 200 miles northeast of Turner County.

Yes, this is a minor detail but what if I started a thread bashing Canada and said "Freakin' Toronto, with those silly mounties on every street corner and a moose in every garage."

Originally posted by janus77
segregation is a natural habit, its risk averse.
you go and look at how people are living, I live in what is, more or less a ghetto. I am an ethnic minority citizen of the UK.

there's nothing wrong with being segregated, as long as you are not imposing upon others nor attempting to abrogate powers to you and your kind that are the preserve of the state (like some people wish to do with shariah laws and halakah/kashurite laws).


racial prejudice cannot and will not be conditioned out of humanity. it's an absurd idea and doesn't really address why we have such prejudices. a "racialist" can be a good and valued man and a lovey-dovey hippie can be a corrosive and cancerous creature too...

Yet being racist is still wrong, so that's hardly a worthwhile point, Npo-one thinks that a racist is automatically bad in all ways, or that people that are good in some ways cannot br racists- or no-one sensible, anyway.

In the long term, there can't be anything LESS risk-averse than cultural segregation. It breeds mistrust, dislike and, all too often, violence.

If anyone really denies that desegregation has helped minorities in the States... well, frankly, that person is a fool.

your assumption regarding desegregation leading to a reduction in mistrust and potential for violent conflict is unprovable.

isolationism was a strong current in America prior to the First World War, and even extending into the second. Japan spent centuries enclosed within its borders, China too. Hinduism created the intellectual framework for a harmonious and insular (and inward focussed) Bharat too.

these are cultures and peoples who had strong identities and did not seek to mix with other identities, they were neither threatened nor a threat. compare that to the present day... all pervasive Corporate attempt at homogenisation of humanity into cultureless sludge.

people are more at odds, more willing to go to war, weak in response to despotic leaders (Blair, Bush and other similar war criminals).

people also actually loathe each other more, it would seem, if you judge by how apathetic we are politically. since politics is social action and responsibility and a lack of inclination to be responsible for your fellow man is a good indicator of a lack of esteem for him.

racism is not "wrong", that's a perversion of morality to apply it to such a thing as racial awareness and preference. instead you can say that it has disfavourable outcomes - too narrow a self-image prevents one from wanting to unite the world under a common flag etc, lack of willingness to adapt to the latest fads, leading to a sense of listlessness and alienation from society at large ... but "wrong" would assume that in and of itself it is harmful, it is not.


another point, violence and dislike are innate parts of human society, they will never be removed from society, but racial identity and grouping actually might prevent a lot of people from internalising those feelings and instead standing strong and benefitting their own communities, under the feeling of self-worth and cultural pride ... objectively that can't be a bad thing, can it?

Originally posted by KidRock
It's so funny how everybody fought so hard for integration, then in my highschool you see all the black kids sitting on one side of the cafateria, whites on the other, and hispanic kids in the middle.

...and you all alone in the corner at the 'special kids' table cry

Originally posted by janus77
your assumption regarding desegregation leading to a reduction in mistrust and potential for violent conflict is unprovable.

isolationism was a strong current in America prior to the First World War, and even extending into the second. Japan spent centuries enclosed within its borders, China too. Hinduism created the intellectual framework for a harmonious and insular (and inward focussed) Bharat too.

these are cultures and peoples who had strong identities and did not seek to mix with other identities, they were neither threatened nor a threat. compare that to the present day... all pervasive Corporate attempt at homogenisation of humanity into cultureless sludge.

people are more at odds, more willing to go to war, weak in response to despotic leaders (Blair, Bush and other similar war criminals).

people also actually loathe each other more, it would seem, if you judge by how apathetic we are politically. since politics is social action and responsibility and a lack of inclination to be responsible for your fellow man is a good indicator of a lack of esteem for him.

racism is not "wrong", that's a perversion of morality to apply it to such a thing as racial awareness and preference. instead you can say that it has disfavourable outcomes - too narrow a self-image prevents one from wanting to unite the world under a common flag etc, lack of willingness to adapt to the latest fads, leading to a sense of listlessness and alienation from society at large ... but "wrong" would assume that in and of itself it is harmful, it is not.


another point, violence and dislike are innate parts of human society, they will never be removed from society, but racial identity and grouping actually might prevent a lot of people from internalising those feelings and instead standing strong and benefitting their own communities, under the feeling of self-worth and cultural pride ... objectively that can't be a bad thing, can it?

Your examples are pathetic- they back me, not you.

America prior to the First World War was a nation of horiffic racial intolerance with black citizens living a second or third class life. Japan spent so long isolated in that time that was actually starting to devolve as a society, going backwards in technology, until it realised that isolationism is one of the stupidest approaches possible to the existence of global society- a rude awakening when US gunships proved the point. China was an enormous and diffuse country with dozens of cultures within- and furthermore is also hardly a good example of a morally upstanding nation.

What we have today is at least an effort to work on the idea that people are equal regardless of race. You seek to glorify a time when discrimnination on such grounds was acceptable. But being as you parrot idiocies like calling Blair a war criminal, such an unintelligent view of the world seems inevitable. In of itself, racism IS harmful. It's only not harmful to those on the top of the pile. As ever, to believe otherwise is dumb. Racism is wrong. Simple as that. All else is intrigue, to quote a certain person from the American Civil War. Where you talk of pride and self-worth, what actually gets seen and felt is naked hate.

Maybe YOU loathe more. But in general, it has brought about great social good. In the US, for example, whilst racial tensions are high, the idea that lynching black people in your Sunday best in the South is actually not a criminal offence has been squashed. I would tentatively advance the idea that this is progress, hmm?

Originally posted by botankus
Have you ever driven through SW Georgia?

I'm originally from Georgia and there are no swamps 160 miles south of Atlanta. Dirt roads, farmlands, and abandoned gas stations, yes. This city is near Albany, which has had flooding problems in the past but in no way can be called swamplands. They have LAKES and PONDS, and you're adding in this fabricated swamp thing to make it seem like it's out of Huckleberry Finn. If you're going to try to spruce up a "Look at me - I'm better than you!" argument, at least get your patronizing depictions correct.

The swamps are located in the southeastern tip of Georgia...far away from this area. I'm surprised you didn't say Ashburn was home of the grand wizard of the KKK. That location is 200 miles northeast of Turner County.

Yes, this is a minor detail but what if I started a thread bashing Canada and said "Freakin' Toronto, with those silly mounties on every street corner and a moose in every garage."

Damn!

Way to tell him whats up, botankus. I dont like when people talk shit/lie about a place just to make a point either. If was from GA I'd be pissed too.

Originally posted by Schecter
...and you all alone in the corner at the 'special kids' table cry

...and you, the old man janitor waiting to look up a girls skirt.

Originally posted by KidRock
...and you, the old man janitor waiting to look up a girls skirt.

no, i have my hand up their skirts and they love it.

Originally posted by Schecter
no, i have my hand up their skirts and they love it.

You're a sick pedohile... good news though, at least you're not as bad as a murderer.

Originally posted by Schecter
no, i have my hand up their skirts and they love it.

Heeheehee master of puppets

Originally posted by Robtard
You're a sick pedohile...

if there's grass in the field, play ball

I never even knew Whites still held segregated proms. Damn... Crazy shite.

In that passage I read that some Whites kids couldn't even go to this years prom because their parents didn't want then around "colored" people.

Racism is a b*tch. It still happens. Fcuk all racist people. Fcuk 'em all especially here in Boston and the ones in Georgia.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I never even knew Whites still held segregated proms. Damn... Crazy shite.


Just no.

I'm not sure you even realize the problem with this excerpt...

Originally posted by Schecter
if there's grass in the field, play ball

If there old enough to pee, there old enough for me. (Schecter)

Zerp.

If the people want it, I'm for "separate but equal," as long as the "equal" part is emphasized.

Originally posted by Secretus
If there old enough to pee, there old enough for me. (Schecter)







lol?

Originally posted by Draco69
It's Georgia. RURAL Georgia. Like swamps and stuff. We consider that portion of America, part of the Confederacy... Its true!!!!

Originally posted by Secretus
If there old enough to pee, there old enough for me. (Schecter)





It's "they're," you blithering chimp.

Originally posted by FeceMan
It's "they're," you blithering chimp.

Let me guess? He never did ask you to the prom.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I never even knew Whites still held segregated proms. Damn... Crazy shite.

In that passage I read that some Whites kids couldn't even go to this years prom because their parents didn't want then around "colored" people.

Racism is a b*tch. It still happens. Fcuk all racist people. Fcuk 'em all especially here in Boston and the ones in Georgia.

B-but you knew that blacks still hold segregated proms?

Originally posted by Bardock42
B-but you knew that blacks still hold segregated proms?

lol FotN's blind hate for whites strikes again.

i didn't go to my prom. i went to a party that night with over 300 people, though. i had a lot more fun there.