My Visit to the GLBT Center of New York

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Goddess Kali
My freind dragged me there last night, because I was too bummed to do anything. He told me to forget everything that was bugging me, and just join him.


I am glad I did.



I went to the Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgender Center of New York City, located in lower Manhattan.



I met other guys, Gay guys, who come for different reasons. We had a discussion with each other about Gay issues, such as Gay Media, healthy body image, connections and social life, etc. Then we all went for dinner.



I thought it was so nice....I realized how not alone I am. Most of the guys there were out to thier parents, unlike myself, but find it very hard being Gay in New York. They all thought I was straight, because I am one of the few guys there that does not act feminine. I kinda stood out....I act more like a young Jock than anything...

Ne ways...they all said how difficult it was not only being themselves in school, work, home, etc. but also meeting other guys was such a hardship. Like myself, none of them like Gay Clubs or Bars, because those scenes are like going back to High School. Gay Clubs and Bars are some of the most superficial environments out there.



I had a lot of great conversations with these guys. One major secret I told them was this:


Although I am not out to my immediate family, I am out to my cousins and all of my freinds and co-workers. I feel more discriminated against, not by Straight people, or even religious people, but by other Gay guys...


I feel that other Gay guys have been more judgemental, abusive, and unfair towards me, than any straight people I know.

None of my straight peers give shit that I am Gay. It's okay...they don't even judge me on other bases....they just like me the way I am.

I ahve a few gay freinds who are really cool, just like my straight freinds, but in general, I do not get along with other Gay guys...the ones I met...the guys at the Center were normal

They weren't trying to get attention, they weren't trying to show off, or put each other down, no one was challenging or bitching at the other, it wasn't territorial superficial bullshit, we were all just trying to hang out and speak....nothing more, nothing less.

It was refreshing.


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It also made me feel better about myself....some of the Gay guys here were in such bad shape...for example, this one guy was 26, he kept complaining about how he hated his job, how he never had a boyfreind, how no one likes him, how his parents ***** at him, etc.

I was like..."wow"......I was nicely paying attention, just smiling, but in my mind I was rolling my fkn eyes like "stop bitching...life aint that bad".


Some guys there truly felt like they had no one...I have tons of people in my life who are supportive of me...of my sexuality and more..of my goals, my appearance, my opinions, etc.


I also looked better than a lot of the guys there * lol stick out tongue



I guess I had it a bit easier, because I don't appear Gay...in person, I appear straight, and no one really puts two and two together...everyone in life I have met automatically thinks im straight, and that is why I have never been Gay bashed (only harassed that one time in senior year because I admitted that I liked another guy, but that's a long story)


Also, im not saying im this studly stud, but I'm pretty good looking, and I don't go through some of the major self image problems that some of the guys there go through.

Sure, I judge myself, but im pretty damn happy with the way I look so far, and I only aim to enhance..not drastically change....I can't say the same for some of the guys there...


It was an eye-opener. We were all Gay, but we were all soo damn different....



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This nice Asian guy walked me home, because he lived at the same borough I was sleeping...NO..i didn't have sex with him....but we did chat. He is really nice, and I took his number..he took mine. He's 24, and he is a columnist for some online Gay site....he thought I was really hott....out of pure ego, I showed him the self nude pics I took on my phone laughing


HE fkn loved it, and asked me to come over, but I sed "umm...thats really nice of you, thanks, but im not in the mood...."


Then I went to sleep over my Grandmother's, and lie about where I was and slept.



I will come out this summer....soon....when I feel the moment is right for me. I feel less worried about it....and I have been going out a whole lot more....this year I have been too isolated because of the combination of work and school..


This summer is my Spartan Training and self discovery season....I am not looking for a boyfreind. That will happen on its own...but I am going to expose myself (not in that sense)....I am going to meet more people, make more connections, and open my mind...expand my horizons..no longer be closed to my own biases and comfort zones.




I am scheduled to return to the GLBT Center in two weeks for a company meeting, me and my female freind are going to represent the Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgender employees of our company, and see what this is all about, and how we can contribute to our individual locations....



This is a great step for me, I have never felt so productive on this issue.....it's a hell of a lot better than wallowing in self pity, wondoring why certain people have been using/abusing/ignoring/bashing me, etc.

chithappens
I am happy for you. You seemed to be going through a rough patch that I hit every two seasons or so. Just make sure you keep these things in mind later on when things go sour.

Never let your ambitions become stagnant. You are the only one who can determine your own self worth.

Nellinator
Go straight.

~Forever*Alone~
sounds like fun

i love group things

FeceMan
Seriously. Take it to LiveJournal.

Goddess Kali
Originally posted by Nellinator
Go straight.



Nah




Originally posted by Nellinator
I am happy for you. You seemed to be going through a rough patch that I hit every two seasons or so. Just make sure you keep these things in mind later on when things go sour.

Never let your ambitions become stagnant. You are the only one who can determine your own self worth.



Thanks bro...although I still kinda feel like shietaki...I know that what you are saying is truth....


Thanks sexy wink

Gregory
I'm pleased for you. It sounds like it was a really beneficial experience.

FeceMan
Originally posted by FeceMan
Seriously. Take it to LiveJournal.

Alliance
OTF

Goddess Kali
How is this off topic ? erm

Secretus
Originally posted by Alliance
OTF

Alliance
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
How is this off topic ? erm Because its your personal experience and not a topic for general discussion.

FeceMan
Okay, guys.

I went to the non-GLBT center of Michigan. And you know what? I bought some food and ate it.

Should I make a new thread or risk derailing this one?

Devil King
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
My freind dragged me there

Why? Did he not tell you that you weren't going to run into other gay men?


Originally posted by Goddess Kali
He sholdn't have to do so.

You think?


Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I am glad I did.

Why? Because you ran into something that you weren't expecting?


Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I feel that other Gay guys have been more judgemental, abusive, and unfair towards me, than any straight people I know.

Why? Because your particular appearance doesn't interest them?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
None of my straight peers give shit that I am Gay.

guess what, that happens in the case of every homosexual, despite their friends....or family.

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
the guys at the Center were normal

A person in your position shouldn't be quoting "normal". Especiually when you can't be "normal", given your particular "problem"

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
They weren't trying to get attention, they weren't trying to show off

what's the difference?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Some guys there truly felt like they had no one...I have tons of people in my life who are supportive of me...of my sexuality and more..of my goals, my appearance, my opinions, etc.

Tonnes of people you "can't" come out to? Bull Shit.


Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I also looked better than a lot of the guys there * lol stick out tongue

Boooooo. For all the obvious reasons. What does/do your looks have to do with anything?


Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I guess I had it a bit easier, because I don't appear Gay...

That's a cop out. You want to present this story like you didn't associate prejudices. But you simply weren't confronted with them, were you?


Originally posted by Goddess Kali
We were all Gay, but we were all soo damn different....

The fact that you divide them based on their reaction lends a major point to mine own objection. And what lends to those differences? Your level of comfortability, or your willingness to put those differences aside?

FeceMan
To summarize Captain's post:

"Gay latinos aren't the hottest thing ever."

See? I was right.

Devil King
Originally posted by FeceMan
To summarize Captain's post:

"Gay latinos aren't the hottest thing ever."

See? I was right.

Actually, it was much more in-depth than that.


It has nothing to do with verbal masturbation. It has to do with right and wrong. Which, I'm sure I'll be told I'm wrong because I don't buy the bullshit.

BackFire
Originally posted by Devil King
Actually, it was much more in-depth than that.


It has nothing to do with verbal masturbation. It has to do with right and wrong. Which, I'm sure I'll be told I'm wrong because I don't buy the bullshit.

Why would you? You can get plenty of decent bullshit for free.


Originally posted by Feceman
Seriously. Take it to LiveJournal.

I agree.

Oh also, I thought that this thread was about some new delicious sandwich - GLBT, some new twist on the BLT. How mistaken I was.

Devil King
Originally posted by BackFire
Why would you? You can get plenty of decent bullshit for free.

I'm sure I'd agree with you, if it didn't have to do with the word "buy". But I don't.

Originally posted by BackFire
I agree.


you have to power to effect such a sad state.

BackFire
How much does your bullshit usually cost you, then?

Devil King
Originally posted by BackFire
How much does your bullshit usually cost you, then?


My bullshit only costs me when I'm wrong.

BackFire
Stop being unfun, go with the joke.

How much does your bullshit cost when you're wrong?

Schecter
the gdf is not your personal blog

Originally posted by FeceMan
Seriously. Take it to LiveJournal.

Devil King
Originally posted by BackFire
Stop being unfun, go with the joke.

How much does your bullshit cost when you're wrong?

I guess that depends on how many hole-punches I have in my membership card.

Schecter
Originally posted by Devil King
hole-punches

vin

Alliance
Originally posted by FeceMan
Okay, guys.

I went to the non-GLBT center of Michigan. And you know what? I bought some food and ate it.

Should I make a new thread or risk derailing this one?

Derail it.

BackFire
Teehee.

Alliance
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FeceMan
Oh, man, I had the best Chinese in the non-GLBT center of Michigan. It was so good, and I was so hungry. I mean, it was really fattening, and I felt kind of guilty after eating it, but I was ravenous when I got there, so I didn't feel too bad afterward.

It was the orange chicken. Mmm, orange chicken is delicious. This place makes good orange chicken, but their sweet and sour chicken is sub-par--it's not crunchy; it's mushy. Gross. But the orange chicken is the win, especially combined with lo mein.

I only go there with friends, not that they really care that it's not the GLBT center of Michigan. That's Saugatuck, actually. I'm not sure why, but whatever. I wonder if they have good Chinese there. Hmm. Gay orange chicken? Lesbian Chinese women? Transgender chefs?

I'm not sure that would enhance my dining experience.

Devil King
Originally posted by FeceMan
Oh, man, I had the best Chinese in the non-GLBT center of Michigan. It was so good, and I was so hungry. I mean, it was really fattening, and I felt kind of guilty after eating it, but I was ravenous when I got there, so I didn't feel too bad afterward.

It was the orange chicken. Mmm, orange chicken is delicious. This place makes good orange chicken, but their sweet and sour chicken is sub-par--it's not crunchy; it's mushy. Gross. But the orange chicken is the win, especially combined with lo mein.

I only go there with friends, not that they really care that it's not the GLBT center of Michigan. That's Saugatuck, actually. I'm not sure why, but whatever. I wonder if they have good Chinese there. Hmm. Gay orange chicken? Lesbian Chinese women? Transgender chefs?

I'm not sure that would enhance my dining experience.

Once you've address getting hungry 1/2 hour later, we'll consider your perspective on the situation.

FeceMan
Actually, I don't have that problem with Chinese. They usually give enough food for leftovers, though, so I could just snack on that.

BackFire
Chinese food is good.

I like chinese food.

and so on.

Alliance
Not as good as Japanese 13

Devil King
Originally posted by FeceMan
Actually, I don't have that problem with Chinese. They usually give enough food for leftovers, though, so I could just snack on that.


You haven't been to sushi places or any place that involves the japanese "experience", have you?

Schecter
chinese restaurant food is crap. not even chinese people eat that shit. proof: they're not all dead. sushi for the WIN

FeceMan
Never been a big fan of sushi. I could probably get into it, though. I want to try Japanese food, but it's usually kind of weird, like their porn.

BackFire
Their porn is good, don't diss their porn.

Means your gay if you do.

Alliance
Sushi is supurb!!!


Favorite types!?!

Schecter
Originally posted by FeceMan
Never been a big fan of sushi. I could probably get into it, though. I want to try Japanese food, but it's usually kind of weird, like their porn.

lol octopus

FeceMan
Tentacle rape is nasty.

I love the artwork from Return to Last Save Point...kinda gross, though. I find it beautiful in a "horrified fascination" and "anatomy is strangely pretty" kind of way.

Schecter
Originally posted by BackFire
Their porn is good, don't diss their porn.

Means your gay if you do.

their porn is pathetic. they have to sensor vaginas out. wtf? like that tubgirl pic. notice they had to censor her bits. yet the self-demolishing shit fountain is ok. thats no problem. thats healthy.

BackFire
Originally posted by Schecter
their porn is pathetic. they have to sensor vaginas out. wtf? like that tubgirl pic. notice they had to censor her bits. yet the self-demolishing shit fountain is ok. thats no problem. thats healthy.

It is.

Vaginas are gross.

Alliance
cry

smoker4
Originally posted by Schecter
their porn is pathetic. they have to sensor vaginas out. wtf? like that tubgirl pic. notice they had to censor her bits. yet the self-demolishing shit fountain is ok. thats no problem. thats healthy.

laughing out loud

Goddess Kali
See Alliance, there's plenty to discuss here ! laughing

Strangelove
Originally posted by Alliance
Not as good as Japanese 13

FeceMan
My dog's breath smells like ass.

My dog has been licking her crotch because her anal glands have been acting up.

Hmm.

Schecter
Originally posted by FeceMan
ass.
Originally posted by FeceMan
licking her crotch
Originally posted by FeceMan
anal

droolio

FeceMan
Originally posted by Schecter
droolio
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