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In my opinion the best Bruce Waynes so far are Michael Keaton, and possibly George Clooney because he is a good actor even though the movie sucked.

But moving to my original point. Who do you think could play a better Bruce Wayne, and please specify in what time period, liek Christian Bale i still recognise as the 'young' Batman.

For a slightly older Bruce Wayne I think David Boreanaz, with Buffy the Vampire fame.

For a much older Batman I think Kiefer Sutherland would be an excelant choice, your opinion?

Kevin Conroy.

Kevin on Vocals, Keaton in Bat Suit, Cloony as bruce Wayne

As Batman, Michael Keaton, because he was just so badass with his voice and look

As Bruce Wayne, probably Christian Bale, because me had the "Bruce is just a mask" thing going, and he had those two hot European girls like every Bruce Wayne must

Michael Keaton was a terrible choice for Batman AND Bruce Wayne in my opinion. I mean, he's a short, shrimpy guy who's not imposing in the least.

Christian Bale all the way!

Christian Bale works for 'young Batman' but Im more of talking for the older more experienced Batman. for which io say Kiefer Sutherland, but for a old but not totally old. id say David Boreanaz. as ive said before. Keaton was still very good at the role even though he didnt fit thebuild. they made him look so

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
Christian Bale works for 'young Batman' but Im more of talking for the older more experienced Batman. for which io say Kiefer Sutherland, but for a old but not totally old. id say David Boreanaz. as ive said before. Keaton was still very good at the role even though he didnt fit thebuild. they made him look so

David Boreanaz as in the guy in Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Sure, that'd be fine if he could actually act. The guys a TV actor, with only a handful of film credits to his name, poor films too.

Christian Bale is fantastic as a young Bruce Wayne, and I can imagine if say, they made another Batman film 20 years from now, an aged, grizzled Christian Bale would do fantastic then.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Michael Keaton was a terrible choice for Batman AND Bruce Wayne in my opinion. I mean, he's a short, shrimpy guy who's not imposing in the least.

Christian Bale all the way!

I have the same agreements as SnakeEyes.Michael keaton was the worst casting choice in comicbook history.The wrong build and the wrong look of Bruce Wayne and he acted NOTHING at all like Bruce wayne from the comics.Yeah Christian Bale all the way then Val Kilmer comes in second.He at least looked the part of Bruce Wayne and at least acted like him.

Michael Keaton is the best.I thought Val Kramer was good as well.I did not like the others at all.They were just not the right batman.jm

You're an idiot. I'm guessing you forgot about Halle Berry as Catwoman. Or George & Kilmer as Batman. Swarz-a-****** as Freeze. Kirsten Dunst as Mary Jane (prob the worst). Billy Dee Williams as Harvey Dent. Pat Hingle as Comm. Gordon. Alicia Silverstone as Batgirl (horrible). Jeep Swenson as Bane (horrible). Anna Paquin as Rogue.

If you truly believe he was the worst casting choice in comicbook history you NEED to stop watching comic book movies.



I'd go and scan the comics that would prove you wrong but I think its sufficient to say that it depends on what side of Bruce you're talking about. There's the playboy type, there's the person who tries to ACT like an idiot with the "I'm rich so I don't have to really care or know anything that's going on", I'm the boss and "I'm smarter than you" type. So it really depends. He's a character that acts like he has many sides.

The only part of Keaton's Batman (and this is not decided by him) is that he didn't fight like how Batman should. Come on, Joker's thugs getting hits on Batman??! Please....

If anything Clooney was the worst Batman ever. And he's a good actor, so I don't know what happened. But one thing I do know is - Batman doesn't make appearances at Charity Events, and Batman doesn't have an AMEX Card that says "Batman Forever" on it. I believe the line was "Never leave the Cave without it". Get the Hell outta here...

No YOUR an idiot.You think that horrible actor Pierce Brosan was the best James Bond ever.that says it all about you. Im not saying those others were great casting choices-Halle Berry as catwoman and clooney as batman for sure rivals Keaton as batman.But Keaton was a horrible Bruce Wayne.Its funny how you only qouted part of my post and not the whole post since it proves that Kilmer was easily the better Bruce wayne. Keaton was a horrible bruce wayne because not only did he not look the part but he acted nothing at all like bruce wayne and just tried to copy Chris Reeves perfromance as superman acting goofy and dorky like bruce wayne and macho as batman.Kilmer at least acted the part which is cool with the women and suave and like i said,at least had the right look and build.

Bale brought the physicality to the role that nobody had yet. Keaton was mysterious and had the perfect voice. I think Bob Crane himself said that Kilmer was the best choice, I thought he was good. Clooney was just too much of a novelty.

dude, Kilmer looks nothing leik Bruce, since when was Bruce Wayne blond??

Batman puts on acts, and definately doesnt sacrafice his reputation. plus Batman normally doesnt drink to keep his body in peak physical condition, Yet Christian Bale casually grabbed a glass of Champagne and drank it down.

Christian Bale over angsted it, Over did it, and overall didnt do it as well as Keaton. But he did do better than Kilmer, Clooney and Adam West

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
dude, Kilmer looks nothing leik Bruce, since when was Bruce Wayne blond??

Batman puts on acts, and definately doesnt sacrafice his reputation. plus Batman normally doesnt drink to keep his body in peak physical condition, Yet Christian Bale casually grabbed a glass of Champagne and drank it down.

Christian Bale over angsted it, Over did it, and overall didnt do it as well as Keaton. But he did do better than Kilmer, Clooney and Adam West

Yeah, but you see, no matter how good of a job Keaton supposedly did, it wouldn't matter.

I, personally, think he was a poor choice for the role AND he did a poor job. I couldn't take him seriously. He was a shrimp of a guy trying to be Batman, one of my favorite characters who I know a whole lot about.

Let's say hypothetically, Keaton did the best job, hands down. It still wouldn't matter, because of how he looks.

He doesn't look like Bruce Wayne OR Batman. I don't buy it and neither should anyone else. I mean, I guess that's harsh and all, trying to impose my thoughts on others, but come on... it's obvious why the guy was a poor choice.

Add to this that Christian Bale is an excellent actor, looks the part, and did a good job with the character itself and you've got your perfect Batman right there.

Anyone is better then West and Clooney!jm

Napoleon Dynamite

Chris Bale was bruce wayne. Keaton was totally wrong for the role not only phischally, his performance was goofy and out of the character. Kilmer was a decent bruce wayne and clooney was a joke, he was only playing himself

Also, kevin conroy was a great voice for wayne and adam west was a very good bruce wayne too.

Bale was Mediocre

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
Bale was Mediocre

I can tell you have no idea what you're talking about.

no i have plenty of idea what i am talking about. You simply questioning my credibility makes it seem as though you dont know what you are talking about. Bale over stressed hsi war on crime, and not giving a shit. when Batman sows constant disgression and always knows what he wants and where he is. He rarely makes social gaffs unless they are intentional. and he never really had any big time "Should i kill them cause they did something bad? b-bu-but killing is wrong!" Batman would have done what he thooiught was right and never over angsted the scenes. Keaton however showed that Bruce was a mask by pretending, and quite well might i add, to be a richboy who needs help to shit an dlikes ot flaunt his money. PLUS Alfred acted more liek a father as he is intended to in the Burton Films

Originally posted by Condor
Bale brought the physicality to the role that nobody had yet. Keaton was mysterious and had the perfect voice. I think Bob Crane himself said that Kilmer was the best choice, I thought he was good. Clooney was just too much of a novelty.

Don't forget annoying!jm

Originally posted by Mr Parker
No YOUR an idiot.You think that horrible actor Pierce Brosan was the best James Bond ever.that says it all about you. Im not saying those others were great casting choices-Halle Berry as catwoman and clooney as batman for sure rivals Keaton as batman.But Keaton was a horrible Bruce Wayne.Its funny how you only qouted part of my post and not the whole post since it proves that Kilmer was easily the better Bruce wayne. Keaton was a horrible bruce wayne because not only did he not look the part but he acted nothing at all like bruce wayne and just tried to copy Chris Reeves perfromance as superman acting goofy and dorky like bruce wayne and macho as batman.Kilmer at least acted the part which is cool with the women and suave and like i said,at least had the right look and build.

1. You're - not your.

2. James Bond isn't as big a character as Batman in the sense that people have been reading Batman comics for decades so that they know how the character is. Wow, you really had nothing else to say since apparently had to dig up something else on me, right? You're a F**King idiot.

3. "For sure rivals" - then you are FOR SURE an idiot not only by your comments, but by later contadicting yourself. I believe the phrase you first used was "Michael keaton was the worst casting choice in comicbook history".

4. The more you talk the more I truly believe you have a mental issue - lets look at this:

"Its funny how you only qouted part of my post and not the whole post since it proves that Kilmer was easily the better Bruce wayne."

Let me ask you this; WTF does this have to do with what I commented about your initial post? Think about it. Yes, you are an idiot.

As I'll admit, Keaton's Batman was no where near perfect, but it wasn't "the worst comic book casting choice" as you claim.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Yeah, but you see, no matter how good of a job Keaton supposedly did, it wouldn't matter.

I, personally, think he was a poor choice for the role AND he did a poor job. I couldn't take him seriously. He was a shrimp of a guy trying to be Batman, one of my favorite characters who I know a whole lot about.

Let's say hypothetically, Keaton did the best job, hands down. It still wouldn't matter, because of how he looks.

He doesn't look like Bruce Wayne OR Batman. I don't buy it and neither should anyone else. I mean, I guess that's harsh and all, trying to impose my thoughts on others, but come on... it's obvious why the guy was a poor choice.

Add to this that Christian Bale is an excellent actor, looks the part, and did a good job with the character itself and you've got your perfect Batman right there.

Exactly.some people just dont get it though that it doesnt matter how good a job an actor did with their role.if they dont even come close to fitting the part then they bring no credibility to the role and keaton was no exception.Like you said,even if he DID do the best job ,it wouldnt matter because of how he looked the part.

Like you said,he doesnt look like Bruce Wayne OR Batman.Countless of people didnt buy him as batman or bruce wayne either because of that.Your not imposing your thoughts here,your just speaking the truth.Its so obvious to anybody with logic and common sense that he was miscast in that role.Who wants to see a shrimp play Batman? Thats a disgusting joke to true Batman fans because like you said,it was so obvious he was a poor choice.

As someone else mentioned,even the creator thought Val Kilmer was the best choice and came closest to portraying the best Bruce wayne out of the Schumacher/Burton Batman movies that were made.The people that say Kilmer had blond hair in that movie are obviously thinking of Kilmers PAST movies when his hair was blond because his hair is brown in Batman Forever.Jim Carrey as everybody knows, has brown hair and you look at the scenes with Kilmer and Carrey standing together you can see he has the exact same color of hair Carrey does in that movie-brown.

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
no i have plenty of idea what i am talking about. You simply questioning my credibility makes it seem as though you dont know what you are talking about. Bale over stressed hsi war on crime, and not giving a shit. when Batman sows constant disgression and always knows what he wants and where he is. He rarely makes social gaffs unless they are intentional. and he never really had any big time "Should i kill them cause they did something bad? b-bu-but killing is wrong!" Batman would have done what he thooiught was right and never over angsted the scenes. Keaton however showed that Bruce was a mask by pretending, and quite well might i add, to be a richboy who needs help to shit an dlikes ot flaunt his money. PLUS Alfred acted more liek a father as he is intended to in the Burton Films


Snake Eyes is right.you dont know what your talking about at all.If anybody overstreesed their war on crime that was keaton in Burtons pathetic version by killing people in cowardly ways.Bales Batman was the true Batman.He made it a point he would not kill people to bring them to justice.Keatons Batman AGAIN was a bumbling fool copying off Chris Reeves performace as superman being a dork around women when thats not Batman at all. Burtons Alfred escorted Vickie Vale to the batcave against Batmans wishes something Alfred would NEVER do.

Bale was easily the best with his playboy image he put on disguising his true self.And like we keep trying to tell you,unlike Keaton,he brought credibility to the role because he at least LOOKED the part.Tall,muscular,handsome and a full set of hair.Not this shrimp with a balding receding hairline.

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
no i have plenty of idea what i am talking about. You simply questioning my credibility makes it seem as though you dont know what you are talking about. Bale over stressed hsi war on crime, and not giving a shit. when Batman sows constant disgression and always knows what he wants and where he is. He rarely makes social gaffs unless they are intentional. and he never really had any big time "Should i kill them cause they did something bad? b-bu-but killing is wrong!" Batman would have done what he thooiught was right and never over angsted the scenes. Keaton however showed that Bruce was a mask by pretending, and quite well might i add, to be a richboy who needs help to shit an dlikes ot flaunt his money. PLUS Alfred acted more liek a father as he is intended to in the Burton Films

Results of the script, I think you'll find, or what your post said.

Originally posted by Tron
Kevin Conroy.

Kevin Conroy...the f... outta here...hey howzabout Drew Carey?
Kevin Conroy...

Originally posted by Mr Parker
I have the same agreements as SnakeEyes.Michael keaton was the worst casting choice in comicbook history.The wrong build and the wrong look of Bruce Wayne and he acted NOTHING at all like Bruce wayne from the comics.Yeah Christian Bale all the way then Val Kilmer comes in second.He at least looked the part of Bruce Wayne and at least acted like him.

Well, I know this is an old post, but I'm gonna talk about it anyway...

First of all, I guess I get to debate with you once more, Mr. Parker, you really are good at it (and I've gotten better at it too)

Second of all, you are only basing your argument on his apperance. So Michael Keaton didn't exactly fit the bill as a handsome, dashing billionare playboy... that's not what the movie was trying to do. You have to remember that this movie was based on Frank Miller's DKR and Year One, where Bruce is very secluded and not all that well groomed... It was more or less a film adaption of DKR with bits of Year One...

Third of all, the notion that Kilmer was better than Keaton is not as far-fetched as I once thought... Don't get me wrong, I still think Keaton was a MUCH better Batman, but I have to admit that Kilmer played a better "modern" Bruce Wayne. I always thought that Keaton was playing an "old" Wayne, while everyone else TRIED to play a "modern" Wayne (it didn't always work out... *coughclooneycough*)

And finally, I stand by my earlier post...

Keaton=Best Batman Voice/costume was awesome, brought sort of a "Golden Age" feel to the character
Bale=Best Wayne Look, mannerisms, etc. Are all part of a "modern" Wayne

pfft you guys arent thinking yoru just posting your same ideas over again. doesnt matter, Bruce Wayne has Black hair, whiel Kilmer has blond hair and then light brown in Forever. Joel Schumacher is a fruit, he ****ing destroyed what could have been the ultimate franchise if Burton was alllowed to stay on.

Plus Alfred does what he thinks is best for Wayne, aka: being a father figure. He doesnt argue with him just presents his ideas and sometimes goes over his head he doesnt care if Wayne sacrafices the empire.

plus this thread is not to argue ABOUT, WHO HAS!! PLAYED HIM. its who who hasnt playe dhim would be better for the role

Christopher Lee should play Batman.

He is way too scary.I love that actor.But he is more of a villen then a hero.jm

Bale was probably one of the best. He looked the part, he sounded the part, he WAS the part.

about 30 years ago CHristopher Lee could have done it. they messed up Batman too much when Bale playe dhim. plus thisa whole 'real' take on ti is kinda bothering me. Batman has been prty realistic so far. but nwo they are trying to add an explanation that can truly happen. Like Ras' al Ghul he didnt live forever in the movies he just switches from person to person. so that means, no Clayface, probably no Poison Ivy, most likely no Mr. Freeze. plenty of other great villains that cannt be used. but moving back to the point.

who SHOULD play Batman who hasnt playe dhim yet

I am still going with Michael Keaton!He is the batman and always will be!Looked the part played the part great and is indeed what batman should be like!jm

Bale is the best Batman and Wayne.

Originally posted by Juntai
Bale is the best Batman and Wayne.

. He had the looks, the build, the voice, the 'air.' As Batman and as Wayne, no one really pulled it off as well as Bale.

Originally posted by Jamaican
1. You're - not your.

2. James Bond isn't as big a character as Batman in the sense that people have been reading Batman comics for decades so that they know how the character is. Wow, you really had nothing else to say since apparently had to dig up something else on me, right? You're a F**King idiot.

3. "For sure rivals" - then you are FOR SURE an idiot not only by your comments, but by later contadicting yourself. I believe the phrase you first used was "Michael keaton was the worst casting choice in comicbook history".

4. The more you talk the more I truly believe you have a mental issue - lets look at this:

"Its funny how you only qouted part of my post and not the whole post since it proves that Kilmer was easily the better Bruce wayne."

Let me ask you this; WTF does this have to do with what I commented about your initial post? Think about it. Yes, you are an idiot.

As I'll admit, Keaton's Batman was no where near perfect, but it wasn't "the worst comic book casting choice" as you claim.

No You're -since you want to get so technical about everything,are an idiot.You engage in childish name calling if someone doesnt agree with you-thats what an idiot does. it has everything to do with it because you conviently left out the part on why Kilmer was the better Bruce wayne.Thats what people do when they cant counter a point is quote only PART of a post.

Okay so maybe keaton wasnt the worst casting choice in comicbook history yeah Halle Berry and Clooney were probably worse but he was easily ONE of the worst.anybody with logic and common sense would know that to be true.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
Well, I know this is an old post, but I'm gonna talk about it anyway...

First of all, I guess I get to debate with you once more, Mr. Parker, you really are good at it (and I've gotten better at it too)

Second of all, you are only basing your argument on his apperance. So Michael Keaton didn't exactly fit the bill as a handsome, dashing billionare playboy... that's not what the movie was trying to do. You have to remember that this movie was based on Frank Miller's DKR and Year One, where Bruce is very secluded and not all that well groomed... It was more or less a film adaption of DKR with bits of Year One...

Third of all, the notion that Kilmer was better than Keaton is not as far-fetched as I once thought... Don't get me wrong, I still think Keaton was a MUCH better Batman, but I have to admit that Kilmer played a better "modern" Bruce Wayne. I always thought that Keaton was playing an "old" Wayne, while everyone else TRIED to play a "modern" Wayne (it didn't always work out... *coughclooneycough*)

And finally, I stand by my earlier post...

Keaton=Best Batman Voice/costume was awesome, brought sort of a "Golden Age" feel to the character
Bale=Best Wayne Look, mannerisms, etc. Are all part of a "modern" Wayne

Yep looks like we go at it again.heh heh.Your wrong there Dude-LOL-the user name.You obviously only read parts of my posts because I said Kilmer was better because not only did he at least look the part unlike Keaton but alos unlike Keaton,he actually acted like Bruce Wayne where Keaton just copied Chris Reeves performance as Superman being a goofy dork around people and macho and cool as Superma which is not Batman at all.Bale nailed the character of Bruce wayne and Batman and easily blows all the other imposters away.

Well we agree on one thing at least that Clooney was a horrible Bruce wayne.

And you obviously only read part of my post, Mr. Parker...

I clearly said that Kilmer played a better "young" Wayne than Keaton, but overall Keaton was ok, since he played an out-of-continuity "old" Wayne...

And before you try to bury me with another post, I'll defend myself by saying...

When you criticze Keaton's performance, you have to take into account that the movie Batman 1989 was not based on a regular Batman comic of the day, it was based on Frank Miller's DKR, in which he murders criminals, with bits and pieces of Year One. This means the Wayne in 89 will of course act differently than a regular, modern Wayne.

And just to be fair, he did sort of take parts of Reeve's Kent/Superman, but that movie was successful, so it made sense to take an idea from a successful film...

And to answer the original question, I would have liked to see Brandon Lee's take on the character.

lol you realise that someone jsut said Bruce puts on masks to act leik a playboy, which Bale does. yet you yell at Keaton for doing the same. He acted maybe a little goofy cause he puts it as fake. Batman really is him.

Batman no matter how you look at it.Is a playboy.He has a different girl in every movie!jm

Originally posted by Mr Parker
No You're -since you want to get so technical about everything,are an idiot.You engage in childish name calling if someone doesnt agree with you-thats what an idiot does. it has everything to do with it because you conviently left out the part on why Kilmer was the better Bruce wayne.Thats what people do when they cant counter a point is quote only PART of a post.

Okay so maybe keaton wasnt the worst casting choice in comicbook history yeah Halle Berry and Clooney were probably worse but he was easily ONE of the worst.anybody with logic and common sense would know that to be true.

Wow, you keep on managing to surprise me with your idiocy.. Let's take it back. My first reply only has that in it because I was and have only been talking to you regarding what I put in the quotes. I wasn't saying anything to do with the rest of your post. You saying "Michael Keaton is the worst..." is what I commented on. THAT'S why you talking about Kilmer makes no sense. I didn't comment on that, you just keep bringing it up because you have nothing else to say. All along I've been talking about your retarded comments about Keaton. Do you under - stand now?? (That's about as slow as I can break it down for you, but it won't surprise me if you still don't get it. It's ok, I know some people are challenged).

So you've been arguing with me this whole time based on what I said that you said was retarded (I hope I didn't lose you), only for you to come out now and say "Okay so maybe Keaton wasn't the worst...". Thank You. Thank You. That was what my FIRST post was regarding. Stop trying to make excuses by bringing me into something I didn't even comment on.

And BTW - when you're trying to debate or you're having an argument you usually only start talking about things that have nothing to do with the subject matter when you've ran out of things to say or when you realize you are wrong. Just the mere fact that you care so much about me calling you an idiot, and you trying to change the subject to something I didn't even comment on just shows me how stupid you are. You're always telling people to read ALL your post. Wake up man, someone doesn't have to either agree with it all or disagree with it all. Look at what people write back to you on and then comment on that - not about what THEY didn't comment on.

You need to look in the mirror when talking about someone who is full of idiocy kid.Your such a moron your not even worth my time anymore.Hopefully your mom comes into your room and sees your childish posts and gives you what she does everyday most likely,a good spanken. deal with it kid,your Keaton sucked as Bruce wayne and was one of the worst casting choices in comicbook history.Thousands of Batman fans over the years expressed their anger over that pitiful choice which is why Batman Begins was made.Thank god they had a director that cared about what the fans wanted this time and cast someone who resembled the part.Bye child,have fun talking to yourself and growing up.

pfft your a totaly moron Parker.


But the made Begins at a pitiful attempt of making the series better. ill admit it is better than both of Shumachers movies as they made me wanan kill myself an di think they gave me cancer, at least Batman and Robin did. but Tim Burton an dmmyself are the onl ypeople capable of directing a Batman movie

I'll have to agree with Parker on this one. Bale was the best Batman. Everyone is so quick to judge, let's hear opinions ring and not tie our panties in a knot.

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
pfft your a totaly moron Parker.


But the made Begins at a pitiful attempt of making the series better. ill admit it is better than both of Shumachers movies as they made me wanan kill myself an di think they gave me cancer, at least Batman and Robin did. but Tim Burton an dmmyself are the onl ypeople capable of directing a Batman movie

LOl.childish name calling by you two cause you kids know your losing the argument.Your the moron.Burton was the one that made the pathetic attempt in making a Batman movie.Burtons pitiful versions should have been called The Joker and the second one-Catwoman and Penguin.His pitiful movies focused the majority of the screentime on the villains and made Batman just a supporting character.

Burtons Batman movies were even more of a pitiful attempt at making a Batman movie than Schumachers were.Like someone else mentioned,even the creater Bob Kane said he liked Kilmer the best of the 3 that played him before Bale.Maybe he liked him the best because he was the best before Bale.At least Scumacher made a batman movie where you actually understood WHY he dressed like a bat and WHY he chose to fight crime.You got nothing out of that from Burtons pathetic version.True Batman fans wanted to kill Burton.Also at least Batman Forever focused on Batman for a change and didnt have a short, half bad, receding runt of a midget playing the part.

Bale is the one and ONLY true Batman/Bruce Wayne.

unfortunately when Schumacher made Batman and Robin,he got into the bag of that idiot drughead Tim Burton and started taking the same drugs that Burton was on when he made those pitiful Batman movies because yeah Batmaan and Robin was every bit as pitiful as Burtons Batman movies were.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
And you obviously only read part of my post, Mr. Parker...

I clearly said that Kilmer played a better "young" Wayne than Keaton, but overall Keaton was ok, since he played an out-of-continuity "old" Wayne...

And before you try to bury me with another post, I'll defend myself by saying...

When you criticze Keaton's performance, you have to take into account that the movie Batman 1989 was not based on a regular Batman comic of the day, it was based on Frank Miller's DKR, in which he murders criminals, with bits and pieces of Year One. This means the Wayne in 89 will of course act differently than a regular, modern Wayne.

And just to be fair, he did sort of take parts of Reeve's Kent/Superman, but that movie was successful, so it made sense to take an idea from a successful film...

And to answer the original question, I would have liked to see Brandon Lee's take on the character.

Well you made a good point that Burton made that pathetic Version of Batman because he was basing it on DKR.A very bad decision on his part.Okay that explains Burtons moronic idiocy in making Batman into a cowardly killer and murder people but come on,Bruce wayne couldnt have acted like a wimpy dork in those comics like he did in the first film? Also,just because a movie was successful,thats not a good reason to copy that persons performance.They should be as loyal to the character as possible and keaton wasnt.People say Kirsten Dunst was a bad choice for the role of Mary jane in the spiderman movies.I dont think thats fair to say and it doesnt make any sense because she looked the part-at least in the first one-second one was a different story,and you cant blame her for acting MUCH more like gwen stacy instead of mary jane,thats the directors fault.She was just doing what he told her to do.I mean just because Gwen is much more likeable than Mary Jane,the actor shouldnt act like Gwen instead and the same applies to Keaton as Batman.Speaking of that,you should go back to the spiderman section so we can continue discussing the Man-Spider movies.LOl.

Hey great debating you again on this subject DUDE.Nice to see there is SOMEONE on this thread capable of acting like an adult when we disagree about something. Do me a favor,spank those two kids for me huh? they are not helping you at all and they are making the keaton supporters look bad.I know you have to agree with me on that?

Off topic: Have you guys noticed that the Batman Board is pretty much dead? This is the only thread still alive (thanks to me )

Anyway, I've come up with a semi list of people I would like to see play Bruce Wayne or Batman who hasn't played the role before...

Young Bruce (in his 20s): Probably Brandon Lee (R.I.P.) He proved he could play a very dark emotional character with the awe inspiring "The Crow". Had he lived, he would have made an excellent choice imo.

"Dynamic Duo" Era Bruce (in his 30s): I don't really know, maybe a more serious Johnny Depp? (don't flame me please)

Old Bruce (40s and 50s): Maybe Chris North or Sean Connery? (again, please don't flame)

These are just ideas so don't take them as my personal beliefs (except the first one, that one I think would be kool)

EDIT: Well, I'm not into spanking, but I do agree that there are some people who can't act their ages on these boards and it makes my side look bad...

Keaton sucked not only because he doesnt look the part, he was a terrible fighter as batman and his bruce wayne was goofy and abstedminded( a la clark kent). kilmer, im not a fan of his batman and his movie, but at look he did look the part and he acted as a playboy when he was bruce wayne. Far better than keaton or clooney.

But bale was batman and was wayne. He nailed both parts, he looked both parts and he is a great, great actor. Its very clear.

Well, personally, in the intimidation scenes (for instance, the "I'm Batman" scene) I thought Keaton was pretty badass...

Keaton is bad ass. He is a great actor and he did a great job but the so calle d'true batman fans' cannot get to the fact that e didi a great job and broke down the role until he had something great. But the again so calle d'true batman fans' just need something to whine about. and to advance your list Batdude

Young Bruce (in his 20s):Yes Brandon Lee (R.I.P) would have been great but other than him, Cillian Murphy, maybe even Jake Gyllenhaal

"Dynamic Duo" Era Bruce (in his 30s): David Boreanaz,

Old Bruce (40s and 50s): Michael Keaton, Kiefer Sutherlund, mayeb Shaun Connery even though I think it would be funny to see him play Freeze, Henry Rollins but iunno if he could act.


But somehting we need more than a better actor, is a better costume, the Begins costume was ok, but they all look fake and hard rubbery we need swone that doesnt look stiff but looks cool

Also i request from the mods to change thsi threads name to "Better actors for Batman Characters"

Lets see, the costume in batman was far worse that the one in begins. The one in batman was fake, triying to add muscle to keaton's unmuscled body. In begins, the costume was far better adapted to bale's muscular body, and he looks great in the suit. Best costume for a batman movie? i dont say it, but it was better than the one in batman 89. Keaton was a short guy in a fake batman costume made to look him taller and muscular. Bale was batman with his costume.

Now, about keaton. Keaton is a great actor, i have said it many times. No problem with his talent at all. His work in movies like pacific heights or clean and sorber was impressing and oscar material. But now, we are talking about the batman movies. In those batman movies, not only keaton was different to the comic character, her performance was absurd when he was bruce wayne. He didnt play the play boy that wayne is, he played an abstedminded and goofy playboy, and even too misterious, and even an idiot could supect of him being batman. That is bruce wayne. I dont know if is burton's fault or keaton's fault, but that is a mistake. As batman, he tried for sure, but the thing didnt work because he looked fake in the costume and he was a terrible fighter, not not martial arts movments. Keaton is far from being a decent batman. He is a great actor, but not in those batman movies.

criticizing hsi fighting ability is retarded, you realsie it is coreographed right? as in The dont say "ok go fight those bad guys ok? then go and dive ff that building and use your grappling hook to cling to safety." plus yes the Batman begisn costume was the best SO FAR, but they could do much ebtter

Dude, you could see clearly when an actor has fighting skills. bale had it, keaton didnt.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Lets see, the costume in batman was far worse that the one in begins. The one in batman was fake, triying to add muscle to keaton's unmuscled body. In begins, the costume was far better adapted to bale's muscular body, and he looks great in the suit. Best costume for a batman movie? i dont say it, but it was better than the one in batman 89. Keaton was a short guy in a fake batman costume made to look him taller and muscular. Bale was batman with his costume.

Now, about keaton. Keaton is a great actor, i have said it many times. No problem with his talent at all. His work in movies like pacific heights or clean and sorber was impressing and oscar material. But now, we are talking about the batman movies. In those batman movies, not only keaton was different to the comic character, her performance was absurd when he was bruce wayne. He didnt play the play boy that wayne is, he played an abstedminded and goofy playboy, and even too misterious, and even an idiot could supect of him being batman. That is bruce wayne. I dont know if is burton's fault or keaton's fault, but that is a mistake. As batman, he tried for sure, but the thing didnt work because he looked fake in the costume and he was a terrible fighter, not not martial arts movments. Keaton is far from being a decent batman. He is a great actor, but not in those batman movies.

Well said Bakerboy.Keaton -who is a good actor and was good in those other movies you mentioned,was just horribly miscast as Batman.Burton did not care about making the best casting choice possible unlike Nolan.He only cast Keaton because he was friends with him and felt comfortable working with him since he had worked with him before.Directors do that all the time wheter it be in hollywood or just a play in community theatre.cast someone who doesnt even come close to fitting the part which makes the show or movie rediculous just because they felt comfortable working with that actor since they worked with them before.Thank god the batman franchise got restarted all over again and thank god for Nolan for erasing that horrible Burton/schumacher nightmare franchise.

the only partt that was a nightmare was schumaker who tried tocopy Burtons over the top vision. but expanded it to where it was ridiculuss. I rewatched the begimnning of Batman Returns and i see why idiots would call it "gruesome." i gre up with some gruesome things and that was only mildly and i cant even think of a word to describe it. But it was great the reimagination of Penguin which you all owe to Burton is one the the greatets thoughts of Batman history. Woudl you rather him be a mildly pudgy short man who is the "Gentleman of Crime" or the crazy sewer dwelling angsty fusion of him and Black Mask he should be.
some slow people who cannt adapt to change or cannot grasp the Dark Knigt returns think he is "Too violent" But to tell you the ttruth Batman SHOULD be violent Bob Kane shouldnt have made a positive role model, he should have made a viscious revenge driven SOB who will kill you with barely any regret. THAT my friends would have sold. the only reason im a Batman fan is because of his amazing display of villains!

So I ask you, can you accept change and realise that it is a good desiscion no matter how you look at it? its a good movie live with it!

Expect for "Batman and Robin" which was a joke.I love all the batman movies.I am just infavor of micheal that is all!jm

i agree with everything you just said, only i have my own critisims that i think would make Begins better that everyone hate slol

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
the only partt that was a nightmare was schumaker who tried tocopy Burtons over the top vision. but expanded it to where it was ridiculuss. I rewatched the begimnning of Batman Returns and i see why idiots would call it "gruesome." i gre up with some gruesome things and that was only mildly and i cant even think of a word to describe it. But it was great the reimagination of Penguin which you all owe to Burton is one the the greatets thoughts of Batman history. Woudl you rather him be a mildly pudgy short man who is the "Gentleman of Crime" or the crazy sewer dwelling angsty fusion of him and Black Mask he should be.
some slow people who cannt adapt to change or cannot grasp the Dark Knigt returns think he is "Too violent" But to tell you the ttruth Batman SHOULD be violent Bob Kane shouldnt have made a positive role model, he should have made a viscious revenge driven SOB who will kill you with barely any regret. THAT my friends would have sold. the only reason im a Batman fan is because of his amazing display of villains!

So I ask you, can you accept change and realise that it is a good desiscion no matter how you look at it? its a good movie live with it!

First of all, dont insult. You dont need to do that, that is plain childish and we are talking only about movies.

Second: burton reimagination was poor and unnessesary. Ok, penguin need some changes to transladate well to screen, but being a retarded freak with blood from his mouth isnt one of those changes at all. Michael Keaton being batman and the villains being the focus arent good changes at all.

If burton want to do a batman film, he doestn need to reaiminaginate those things, only do some changes. If not, go and do another movie like edward sissorhands or bettlejuice.

The only reason in batman are the villains? Batman is one of the heroes with the best gallery of villains, agree. But batman himself is a one of the most interesting heroes of all time. He shouldnt be a second fidler of the joker or the penguin and catwoman, and he is in those tim burton movies.


My problem arent the changes, my problems are what changes. And the changes made by burton were plain dumb and unnessesary. Good movies? maybe in your eyes, but those movies were only good visually and musically. The story and the scripts were terrible, the dialogue was corny, some of the acting was terrible except in some cases. They were bad films and poor adaptations.

the dialogue was good

and i sawy if i huwt your feewings

Ok. But desgree with the dialogue. There are so many bad and corny lines in both batman and batman returns, specially in penguin's speeches.

It is supose to be cornly.I like that it does.The lines are very funny never the less!jm

Originally posted by bakerboy
First of all, dont insult. You dont need to do that, that is plain childish and we are talking only about movies.

Second: burton reimagination was poor and unnessesary. Ok, penguin need some changes to transladate well to screen, but being a retarded freak with blood from his mouth isnt one of those changes at all. Michael Keaton being batman and the villains being the focus arent good changes at all.

If burton want to do a batman film, he doestn need to reaiminaginate those things, only do some changes. If not, go and do another movie like edward sissorhands or bettlejuice.

The only reason in batman are the villains? Batman is one of the heroes with the best gallery of villains, agree. But batman himself is a one of the most interesting heroes of all time. He shouldnt be a second fidler of the joker or the penguin and catwoman, and he is in those tim burton movies.


My problem arent the changes, my problems are what changes. And the changes made by burton were plain dumb and unnessesary. Good movies? maybe in your eyes, but those movies were only good visually and musically. The story and the scripts were terrible, the dialogue was corny, some of the acting was terrible except in some cases. They were bad films and poor adaptations.

exactly.well said.the scripts for ALL of the batman movies except the one and only true Batman movie-Batman Begins of course, were horrible and stupid with horrible acting in all of them.

Originally posted by Juntai
Bale is the best Batman and Wayne.

Exactly.so true.so true.

please stop double posting. But Batman Begins was ok but they had some bad lines
"I swear to god"
"SWEAR TO ME!"

I rest my case. te first two movies had great acting and great dialogue and great actors. Number three is where it hit the fan. bad acting one some counts and shtty disaloge. but in numer four is where you should have stopped watching. Over acting HORRIBEL dialogue. bad actors Uma Thurman over acted the entire movie! but the first two were amazing

Bale is the best. He was ideal for the role long before he was chosen for it.

this all needs to be discussed on the WHY DID STEVE NOT DO THE LAST TWO BATMAN MOVIES thread..this thread is just to talk about the actors who played him-which as any true batman fan knows-Bale is the the best whoever played him.Hands down,no contest.With Val Kilmer coming in second.He was the best to have played the role till Bale came along.

people who dot read carefully are funy. ive said it ultiple times, that this is for WHO SHOULD play him with nothin to do with previous peformances.

although id like to discuds all the people in batman, not just him

So, the tittle of the thread is wrong. It should be " who would be the best bruce wayne?" or something like that, because the actual title looks to be asking for an opinion on who was the best bruce wayne in the past films. Wrong title.

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
people who dot read carefully are funy. ive said it ultiple times, that this is for WHO SHOULD play him with nothin to do with previous peformances.

although id like to discuds all the people in batman, not just him

your the one that started it all about the comparisons of the shitty pathetic Burton/Schumacher Batman movies against the one and only good batman movie Batman Begins by talking about Alfred who has nothing to do with the topic. Bale is easily the best actor to have played the role so as long as Nolan is the director,thats a no brainer-keep having Bale play the role.

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
please stop double posting. But Batman Begins was ok but they had some bad lines
"I swear to god"
"SWEAR TO ME!"

I rest my case. te first two movies had great acting and great dialogue and great actors. Number three is where it hit the fan. bad acting one some counts and shtty disaloge. but in numer four is where you should have stopped watching. Over acting HORRIBEL dialogue. bad actors Uma Thurman over acted the entire movie! but the first two were amazing

The first two movies had the cheesiest lines in the world. Don't even try to ignore that blaring fact.

And Bale a bad Batman? He actually gave the part humanity, which is the main draw of Batman; he doesn't have superpowers. He is a man. He relies on tools much like we do.

Bale gave the part that added facet along with the fact he's easily a better actor than any (except maybe Clooney) of the other Batmans.

well said Rocasatoll.Keaton is a good actor and all,but he was horribly miscast in the role of Bruce Wayne.Bale was easily the better Bruce.No contest.

you guys hsoudl be politicians, you are saying the same thing over and over but saying nothing of importance.

I never said he was a bad Batman i said he was ok and since hes the really only young Batman, and wasnt bad I say i recognise him as mid 20's batman. PLUA i was merely responding to your things.

and hwo does "Better Bruce Wayne" make you think of comparisons? as better means to be improved or just greater than the previous or different one. as in BETTER than the others. take an english class and do us all a favor.

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
you guys hsoudl be politicians, you are saying the same thing over and over but saying nothing of importance.

I never said he was a bad Batman i said he was ok and since hes the really only young Batman, and wasnt bad I say i recognise him as mid 20's batman. PLUA i was merely responding to your things.

and hwo does "Better Bruce Wayne" make you think of comparisons? as better means to be improved or just greater than the previous or different one. as in BETTER than the others. take an english class and do us all a favor.

We never said you said he was bad. We are refuting the fact you call him average and consider Keaton better; and that's just bullshit.

Don't even try and use that cop out. You've been arguing for the past 4 pages over this subject.

It's hilarious that you tell ME to take an english calss when YOU have spelled words wrong many times.ha ha.I've gotten bored with you,your not worth my time anymore.Oh before I leave, since you wont go over to that other Batman thread to read what I posted there for you,I will say it again and post it here.Like Juntai tried to tell you and spell out for you over there,TIM BURTON was the one who ruined the Batman franchise from the very get go.The very idea of Batman rolling in with machine guns and grenades popping out of the tires made me cringe as well like it did him as well as it did with thousands of Batman fans.Those pathetic Burton Batman movies focused way too much attention on the villians with Batman as just a supporting character like we tried to spell it out for you over there.

Thats okay for a Batman TV show for an episode to have batman as just a supporting character to the villians,but NOT a movie,a movie is a special case.Burtons Batman was not only a disgrace to Batman fans because of the horrible casting choice of keaton as batman-keaton is a good actor and has been good in some movies such as Jack Frost,desperate measures and other movies of his as well,but he was horribly miscast in this movie as any true batman fan would know.

Burton disgraced Batmans character by having him look like a wuss getting the crap beat out of him by that Jokers goon in the end.especially since that goon had no special fighting skills at all. what a joke.and dont come back with that lame flimsy excuse that he was hurt because the batman from the comics has been far more seriously injured than that before and was able to beat up multiple villains at the same time.Burtons Batman had poor fighting skills.Thank god for Nolan because he showed Batmans true fighting skills how he could beat up multiple villians at one time just like in the comics.

Burton has made some good films before in the past such as Edward Scissorhands,Ed Wood and Nightmare Before Christmas,but Batman is NOT one of them.Burton needs to do his own stuff,when he makes his own material such as edward sciccorhands and nightmare before christmas,he makes good films once in a while,he needs to stay away from classics that are proven material such as planet of the apes,charlie and the chocolate factory AND Batman because he screws up classci movies like that and makes a mockery out of them EVERYTIME.

Batman Begins is the ONLY good Batman movie made that exists.Batman Forever was okay but it doesnt touch Batman Begins.Batman Begins is the only Batman movie that should not be burned.Tim Burton should be shot for such a travesty of a great comicbook character and his horrible casting choice of michael keaton as batman.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll


And Bale a bad Batman? .

you were saing? it looks as though your puttin words in my mouth. huh? ok anyways.

pfft i dont care about typing well in fron of you jackovs. so my opinion doesnt matter? you gusy are immature lol if my opinion isnt the same as yours "ITS WRONG!!"

EDIT: oh and also, coudl it be your afraid of change? if it is onyl the stuff that someone did before the bothers you when Burton does it? its probably you nto everyoen else. plus Tim Burton is great one of the greatest geniuses of all time. He has done nothing bad so far ever!

On the topic of the thread starter
Richard Burgi, with a little help in the hair area would have made the best batman/bruce wayne(played The Sentinel on tv)


Now it is my opinion that Bale was a bad bruce wayne and a decent
batman,he definetly did not fit the part ,i did not like Batman begins which is my right, he was so not bruce or batman but he is a good actor
which saved him,the script was bad ,but i like the supporting cast more than bale

Now it is only my opinion i am stating,but why all the hostility? cant we all have our view on the matter?

xactly

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
you guys hsoudl be politicians, you are saying the same thing over and over but saying nothing of importance.

I never said he was a bad Batman i said he was ok and since hes the really only young Batman, and wasnt bad I say i recognise him as mid 20's batman. PLUA i was merely responding to your things.

and hwo does "Better Bruce Wayne" make you think of comparisons? as better means to be improved or just greater than the previous or different one. as in BETTER than the others. take an english class and do us all a favor.

How is being a politician saying the same thing over and over again?THey do'nt do that.jm

Originally posted by starlock
On the topic of the thread starter
Richard Burgi, with a little help in the hair area would have made the best batman/bruce wayne(played The Sentinel on tv)


Now it is my opinion that Bale was a bad bruce wayne and a decent
batman,he definetly did not fit the part ,i did not like Batman begins which is my right, he was so not bruce or batman but he is a good actor
which saved him,the script was bad ,but i like the supporting cast more than bale

Now it is only my opinion i am stating,but why all the hostility? cant we all have our view on the matter?

See the way you stated your opinion and the way the thread starter did are like night and day.I already covered those details why your way off base here on Bale being a bad bruce wayne as others have so no need to go into that again.I would just be repeating myself.I could also go into detail as well on how the script was 10 times better than those pitiful Burton Batman movies but thats not what this thread is about and I would be repeating myself on that as well. See thats find that you dont agree with me and some of the others here on this thread about that.YOU stated your opinion in a polite and civilized way unlike the thread starter and that jamaican kid who both engaged in name calling with a few of us just for not agreeing with them.thats why I was hostile with them and why I am not being hostile with you or batdude because you both were at least civilized and mature in your posts.

pfft, yes politicans say the same thing over and hoep everyone hears it differently? me rude? your the one accusing my opinion of being wrong, itsd all opinion which you dont realise

Originally posted by Mr Parker
You need to look in the mirror when talking about someone who is full of idiocy kid.Your such a moron your not even worth my time anymore.Hopefully your mom comes into your room and sees your childish posts and gives you what she does everyday most likely,a good spanken. deal with it kid,your Keaton sucked as Bruce wayne and was one of the worst casting choices in comicbook history.Thousands of Batman fans over the years expressed their anger over that pitiful choice which is why Batman Begins was made.Thank god they had a director that cared about what the fans wanted this time and cast someone who resembled the part.Bye child,have fun talking to yourself and growing up.

Listen Parker - you really need to stop being so foolish as to make assumptions about people. Calling me a "boy" and you don't even know my age? You're really retarded & getting very ****ing annoying.

Secondly, learn how to spell and use grammar correctly. (I really don't like assuming but this is probably an indication of how young YOU are. B/c if not then you are REALLY stupid.)

"Hopefully my mom walks in" - LMAO - did it ever occur to you that you thought of this scenario b/c that's what would happen to you? So childish.

Thirdly, and listen carefully you annoying brat, I only commented on you saying "Keaton was the worst casting in comic book history". Period. Full stop. YOU made that mistake. I did not say that he was the best. You need to stop assuming. No wonder no one takes you seriously or respects what you say. You just keep yapping without actually reading other people's post and properly responding to them. Have you seen me mention who I THINK is the best? No ****ing moron b/c I haven't. My opinion - Bale is def. the best. All I said was that you were an idiot for calling Keaton THE WORST CASTING IN COMIC BOOK HISTORY. AM I GETTING THROUGH TO YOU NOW?!!?

"Thousands of Batman fans over the years"... have you gone out and done a survey? Hmm? Have you taken the time out of your life to go and check with people? I didn't think so.

"Bye, child. Have fun talking to yourself and growing up"... Clearly I'm not talking to myself if you keep responding.

WOW - YOU'RE SUCH AN IDIOT. It's people like you that really like these things b/c they can act tough behind a screen without having to take the time to think about what they say. Good thing this isn't in person b/c I'm sure you wouldn't still be on here.

I hope you had fun talking to yourself just then child because i did not read a word of what you just posted. I dont debate with children who have to throw insults because they cant stand to hear the truth that keaton was horribly miscast as batman. keep on talking to yourself kid,your the only one hear reading your insane ramblings. :

again you need to think of somehting new to type your boring me. I satrted thsi thread soyou could post someone who SHOULD play Batman, nt who has someone who hasnt done it and should. Keaton is one fo the best casting choices so far in comic book history, dont forget Shaq as Steel. or Halle Berry as Catwoman, or Liam Neesan as Ra's Al Ghul, though i can deal with that.
plus, hes nto talkign to himself i read that post and it was amazingly acurate and funny to boot

Originally posted by DarkDethbringer
again you need to think of somehting new to type your boring me. I satrted thsi thread soyou could post someone who SHOULD play Batman, nt who has someone who hasnt done it and should. Keaton is one fo the best casting choices so far in comic book history, dont forget Shaq as Steel. or Halle Berry as Catwoman, or Liam Neesan as Ra's Al Ghul, though i can deal with that.
plus, hes nto talkign to himself i read that post and it was amazingly acurate and funny to boot

Thanks very much. It's nice that someone with brains is also on this topic trying to teach this idiot something sensible. They should kick people like him off of this thing so that we don't have idiotic posts everywhere.

As you mentioned, compared to ALOT of other castings, Keaton was not that bad. In my first post on this topic, I've named at least 10 people that were much worse than Keaton. ( I def. forgot about Shaq as steel, wow, I can't believe they did something so stupid.)

Anyway, keep posting the truth.

Why does this topic always escalate into war? I mean, it seems this topic just causes fights... it's happened numerous times before, but why?

Secondly, everyone that is name calling, flaming, and overall acting like an idiot, please stop. You are only embarrassing (sp?) yourself.

Also, Mr. Parker, don't light the fire that sparks this "Keaton Casting War" that always happens. I'm sick of reading all the junk posts that you and everyone else are writing. Just post about the topic, and if you won't do that, don't post at all!

That's all for now

yeah like I said I am not going to take their bait anymore.they are just a couple of trolls who try and start flame wars.they cannot stand to see someone come on here who hates the Burton Batman movies obviously.they cant be mature about it like you and starlock have been.Im done with those 2 trolls.Im not going to play their game anymore.thats what they want me to do is keep on responding so they can keep trolling.they'll have to go find another poster on this forum to to play their childish game because I'm done playing it with them.

Trolls? thats laughable. So your saying that since our opinion is differnt? we are trolling? i only got insulting/violent is because You went there first i defend myself through words. Your a manipulative child, you try to use that fact that we have differnt opinions to twist it so YOU are the minority and YOU are the onme who is doing the right thing. AGAIN im gonan stop as of now no matter what idiotic things Paker says. after this post it will be only about WHO SHOUDL play Batman

Amen DarkDethBringer... that is what this thread is about, right?

Anyway, I still think Brandon Lee would have been an awesome Batman is given the chance. How old was he during 1992? If he was old enough, he could have been Batman in Batman Returns and possibly put on a great performance

26, yes it woudl have been perfect

Originally posted by Juntai
Bale is the best Batman and Wayne.

Yup.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yup.

all true batman fans know that.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
all true batman fans know that.

I dont think Michael Keaton sucked though.

Well he did suck in this movie because he was horribly miscast.Keaton is a good actor and has been good in other movies where he was perfectly cast in certain roles such as Jack Frost,Desperate Measures and some others as well but again he brought no credibility to the role of bruce wayne because he didnt even come close to fitting the part.That idiot Burton did not care about making the best casting choice possible.he only cast keaton because he felt comforatable working with him.Burton should be shot for that.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Well he did suck in this movie because he was horribly miscast.Keaton is a good actor and has been good in other movies where he was perfectly cast in certain roles such as Jack Frost,Desperate Measures and some others as well but again he brought no credibility to the role of bruce wayne because he didnt even come close to fitting the part.That idiot Burton did not care about making the best casting choice possible.he only cast keaton because he felt comforatable working with him.Burton should be shot for that.

Keaton wasnt perfect but I think the whole thing about Keaton is that he can do the creepy aspect of Batman very well, so in that sense he played Batman well. He doesnt really come off as the rich playboy type that well because of his looks but he really wasnt that bad.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Keaton wasnt perfect but I think the whole thing about Keaton is that he can do the creepy aspect of Batman very well, so in that sense he played Batman well. He doesnt really come off as the rich playboy type that well because of his looks but he really wasnt that bad.

well Im glad he pleased you enough but I still want Burton shot for it.

Bale is the best Bruce Wayne . Keaton was the better Batman

ugh that post was exctly thhe same as others youve made. you didnt even bother changing up some words tokeep us interested. Keaton was cast ashe was believed to eb able to play a good and dark tortured character. He was great

and enough of this "True Batman Fan" shit, its just a way for you to be bale to look down on those who dont share yourr opinion

Originally posted by Alfheim
Keaton wasnt perfect but I think the whole thing about Keaton is that he can do the creepy aspect of Batman very well, so in that sense he played Batman well. He doesnt really come off as the rich playboy type that well because of his looks but he really wasnt that bad.

Exactly right. He wasn't that bad. Also, I do believe that not only Bale was a better choice, but that Begins was better than Burton's films.He wasn't perfect, but he certainly wasn't the worst comic book casting ever. I believe that he brought some sides of Bruce that we've read but have yet seen on screen.

lol wellKeaton couldnt have been castin 89 for the firstmovieif thats what your trying to say people,he would have been far too young,but if Keaton found the fountain of youth then, I would say he shoulld be Batman today, but nufortuneatly he isoldnowand he may be bale to Beat Kiefer SUterland foro old Bruce Wayne

keaton is mediocre is batman and even more of an embarrassment as bruce wayne, playing a potato pudgy face buddha belly loner bruce and a stiff batman, who's batwing got shot down by a handgun btw...*sigh*, kilmer played it cool, atleast better than keaton, and obvs. Bale is the one, no doubt

oopsi****ed up my post Imeant tosay, Bale couldnt have been cast originally he would hav been tooo young. so stop bitching and if they Kept Keaton through all the fistmovies they would have been to soem degree better

They should have casted someone who looked the part and could act, not keaton.

they did, Keaton looks the partand can act, youd realise that if you paid attention

Originally posted by xNIXSONx
keaton is mediocre is batman and even more of an embarrassment as bruce wayne, playing a potato pudgy face buddha belly loner bruce and a stiff batman, who's batwing got shot down by a handgun btw...*sigh*, kilmer played it cool, atleast better than keaton, and obvs. Bale is the one, no doubt

exactly. very well said. thats why he was one of the worst casting choices in comicbook history.

Originally posted by xNIXSONx
keaton is mediocre is batman and even more of an embarrassment as bruce wayne, playing a potato pudgy face buddha belly loner bruce and a stiff batman, who's batwing got shot down by a handgun btw...*sigh*, kilmer played it cool, atleast better than keaton, and obvs. Bale is the one, no doubt

1. While it is your opinion, I believe that you are not giving Keaton enough credit...

2. Pudgy face? How is it that it is only you, bakerboy, and Mr. Parker that are effected by his "pudginess"? He looked fine, you guys are just fanboys that pay attention to every little detail, and that need everything to be perfect, or you call it heresy and flame it to Hell.

(Note: I'm a true Batman fan, I have been since I was 3. I know a movie based on Batman is supposed to be true to the source material, but it is allowed to make its own way. I mean, a direct-to-screen adaption of a comic would be boring and the director would really not be doing anything new. Well, Burton and Keaton did)

3. Loner Bruce? Since when has Bruce not been a loner? Besides Alfred, Bruce really didn't have anyone during his first few years as Batman, and he was pretty much alone when he trained, so he really is a loner...

4. The whole Batwing being shot down by a handgun thing... That "handgun" was pretty big, and it probably shot out a good sized bullet, which probably pierced a vital part of the Batwing's engine, which ultimately caused it to crash land.

5. Again, it is your opinion, but I do believe Kilmer was not as good as Keaton. Sure, Kilmer looked the part, but his acting was stale and it kind of sounded like he was in monotone for a lot of the scenes (not including the "What the hell do you think you were doing" scene)

6. Yes Bale is fantastic as both... with Keaton as a second...

I'm done ranting for now... Thanks for reading!

lol well said, plus i htink the Batwing he flewwasaprototype as he wasjust starting to be Batman and he just got it.

PLus "Kilmer playe dit cool"? have weforgotten.
"HARVEY! IM BATMAN!" in a very nineteen 30's villainish sounding way.

Originally posted by Bat Dude
1. While it is your opinion, I believe that you are not giving Keaton enough credit...

2. Pudgy face? How is it that it is only you, bakerboy, and Mr. Parker that are effected by his "pudginess"? He looked fine, you guys are just fanboys that pay attention to every little detail, and that need everything to be perfect, or you call it heresy and flame it to Hell.

(Note: I'm a true Batman fan, I have been since I was 3. I know a movie based on Batman is supposed to be true to the source material, but it is allowed to make its own way. I mean, a direct-to-screen adaption of a comic would be boring and the director would really not be doing anything new. Well, Burton and Keaton did)

3. Loner Bruce? Since when has Bruce not been a loner? Besides Alfred, Bruce really didn't have anyone during his first few years as Batman, and he was pretty much alone when he trained, so he really is a loner...

4. The whole Batwing being shot down by a handgun thing... That "handgun" was pretty big, and it probably shot out a good sized bullet, which probably pierced a vital part of the Batwing's engine, which ultimately caused it to crash land.

5. Again, it is your opinion, but I do believe Kilmer was not as good as Keaton. Sure, Kilmer looked the part, but his acting was stale and it kind of sounded like he was in monotone for a lot of the scenes (not including the "What the hell do you think you were doing" scene)

6. Yes Bale is fantastic as both... with Keaton as a second...

I'm done ranting for now... Thanks for reading!

Dude,bat DUDE,surely your joking about me bakerboy and nixson being the only bat fans effected by his pudginess? that statement is more far off and innaccurate than ANYTHING you have ever said.I can pull up dozens of threads here in the batman section of people that have come on here in the past 3 years or so and had the same agreements as us.thousands of batman fans over the last 20 years have expressed their anger on message boards countless of times over the years on the horrible miscasting choice of keaton as batman because he had the wrong physical build. with good reason also.cause Burton deliberately pissed on them and did not care about making the best casting choice possible back then.Thank god for Nolan,he's a fans director.

Keaton was onyl short an ddidnt have sufficenttime to work out. He worke dout for two monhs as soon as he gotword. ANDstudiedKick boxing in which he still does to this day. so that cracjkaboot hsi fightingskills is bullshit. andyour ignoringme, Parker is incredibly immature

He didn't look fat at all in the movies... I'll admit, he was short, but he was NOT fat...

and he wasnt muscular he was just skinny lol

George Clooney was the worst Bruce Wayne, I think my left Ball could do a more accurate acting job than what Clooney did.

Michael Keaton.

I don't really care what anyone else says, that's my choice. Bale was good, though his Batman voice is horrible. Doesn't sound menacing at all, sounds like he has strep throat. That and I didn't care for the Begins suit.

YES THANKyou! i hate teh raspy batman voice its horrid!

I think Bale was the best Bruce Wayne but Keaton is my favorite Batman and I like him as Bruce too

Originally posted by SelinaAndBruce
I think Bale was the best Bruce Wayne but Keaton is my favorite Batman and I like him as Bruce too


I agee with you. Keaton is my favorite BW, but Bale is the best.

It's curious DarkLord considering I hadn't seen Batman 1989 since I was 5 and I actually went back and watched it after Begins and that's when I came to the conclusion which I preferred. Bale was great but he's not my favorite Batman or Bruce and I doubt he ever will be but I'll wait till he finishes his run to say for sure.