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I saw the movie last night and I'd have to say it had its funny parts, but other than that the movie was kinda dull...there weren't enough fight scene's and venom was only in the movie for a short period of time which was a shame because he looked freaking awesome. There were no clues towards the end weither or not there will be anymore to the spider-man series. The movie in my opinion was kind of a let down.

There were a ton of fight scenes ...

Only problems were the Aunt May scenes and the part with Stan Lee.

it certainly wasnt lame. i think it was great.........but venom...however awesome looking...was not.

i thought that the film would suck in spite of venom but imho it actually kicks ass in spite of venom. they did a great job on him, but just crapped out on character developement and...well...VENOM. they could have just left him out and still had a movie to go with. thats what really blows

That is what happens when they go on with a movie and don't stop after the first or second one.JM

The movie was awesome, it came out today I was suprised I was able to see it on the opening day

I am seeing it tonight at a drive in.Hope it is not a waste of money.jm

I reckon you will enjoy it

i saw it on IMAX at 3 am....kept hearing bad reviews about it so walked in with low expectations. Came out feeling pretty good, actually. Yea the plotlines were jumbled and things were rushed, but I walked away with a smile. I'd definitley watch it again...if not on the bigscreen, then bootleg d/l..hahah.

I thought it was great. Don't know if I enjoyed it as much as the second, but it was still very good.

I didn't particularly enjoy the one-liners they threw in there, though. The "Good riddance" one comes to mind.

Originally posted by Scoobless
There were a ton of fight scenes ...

Only problems were the Aunt May scenes and the part with Stan Lee.


Yea they did have good amount a fights scene's but I didn't think they were all that great, they were to quick and short...only good ones were against harry

Originally posted by Schecter
it certainly wasnt lame. i think it was great.........but venom...however awesome looking...was not.

i thought that the film would suck in spite of venom but imho it actually kicks ass in spite of venom. they did a great job on him, but just crapped out on character developement and...well...VENOM. they could have just left him out and still had a movie to go with. thats what really blows

I think it would have been better, if they just focused the story around Venom as the central villain.It would have given the essential time to develop his character.Hopefully Venom will return in the 4rth and make up for his lack for screentime.And maybe they will do something about his god awful voice.I'm not downing the scenes with Venom, they were actually my favorite part of the movie.I think Venom was the coolest villain in the movie even though they could have done better with him.

Originally posted by SpyCspider
i saw it on IMAX at 3 am....kept hearing bad reviews about it so walked in with low expectations. Came out feeling pretty good, actually. Yea the plotlines were jumbled and things were rushed, but I walked away with a smile. I'd definitley watch it again...if not on the bigscreen, then bootleg d/l..hahah.


Oh yea it was definitely rushed, seem like the movie just flew by. I'll wait till its out on video to see it again though. The movie just wasn't how I thought it would be; I was so hyped up for the big fight scenes and they turned out to be bland

it was rushed cause they wanted:
1)Spidey gets suit and becomes darker
2)Spidey gets rid of suit and it gets onto Brock
3)SPidey beats Brock

it was rushed becouse venom was not even suposed to be in there its all venoms,avi arads,and fanboys fault, you guys crapped a good movie.

Don't blame us for Sandman's involvement, the only reason we got that is because Raimi and Maguire have a boner for him. He took away time that could've been spent building up Brock....as well as those stupid humor scenes. If they would've taken some of those comedic parts out with the dancing and crap, and replaced that with more Brock development, the movie would have benefited. Also, why did Venom sound like a squirrel? That was so gay, as was the whole "we need to give Sandman a huge set of morals, a family, and connect him to Uncle Ben's death for no reason". Also...is it just me, or did you guys think "wtf is the molecular machine doing in the middle of nowhere and for what purpose?" That kind of just seemed like lazy writing.

I can see where the elements that I didn't like were spawned from Spider-Man 2 (ie the idea of a retarded music section) and the elements I loved were reminiscent of Spider-Man 1 (ie the more "comic book" feel to it). Overall though, I'm pleased, especially when you compare it to other comic book films out there...like X3...

they tried to over-contrast good Peter from bad Peter. It was too black and white. Apparently, a cool smooth confident dancing Peter is "Bad" when it's actually just normal for a lot of guys. God forbid Peter actually starts resembling less of a nerd (played out by the 2nd movie) and let's loose once in a while.

At the time however, I was cracking up along with the rest of the theater at 3 am. Maybe people were drunk or too wired to care, but it seemed like the audience was just enjoying it for the comedy.

I just realized....did they forget to state "with great power comes great responsibility?" Gasp!

It sounds they did an X-men 3 with Spidey...*sigh*

I agree for the most part (especially the suit, OMFG!) but I like the club scene. If he did not slap MJ at the end of the club scene, it would have been too cheesy.

I don't think so. Spidey three is one hell of a great movie. Every scene was fantastic.

Oh and it was way too cheesy that all those people were watching the last fight also! That was too gay for me.

And is it just me or did Sandman get strong REALLY fast with no real progression of power through the movie?

And we only see Venom fight at then end which is dumb because if I did not know the comic, it would not make sense to me that he is kicking the crap out of Spidey. I would have been thinking "Why isn't his spider sense going off?" We get no taste of what he can do until the end.

Excellent movie

Originally posted by chithappens
Oh and it was way too cheesy that all those people were watching the last fight also! That was too gay for me.

And is it just me or did Sandman get strong REALLY fast with no real progression of power through the movie?

And we only see Venom fight at then end which is dumb because if I did not know the comic, it would not make sense to me that he is kicking the crap out of Spidey. I would have been thinking "Why isn't his spider sense going off?" We get no taste of what he can do until the end.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
I don't think so. Spidey three is one hell of a great movie. Every scene was fantastic.

Really? What movie were you watching there?

As for the dance scene, people were laughing at it too, but not because it was funny, but because it was so outta place and stupid. You could feel the "WTF" in the room when there were stupid scenes. The jazz scene and "emo-Peter" walking down the street like a complete imbecile were the worst contenders for this.

^hmm be that as it may, a lot of people in the audience at my showing were laughing and "cheeering him on" while he was doing that. A lot of "woos!! Awww yea...." and whistles from my crowd.

Go fig.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
The jazz scene and "emo-Peter" walking down the street like a complete imbecile were the worst contenders for this.

U gotta admit though, the scene with Peter walking down the street was just funny

Originally posted by SpyCspider
^hmm be that as it may, a lot of people in the audience at my showing were laughing and "cheeering him on" while he was doing that. A lot of "woos!! Awww yea...." and whistles from my crowd.

Go fig.

Originally posted by chithappens
U gotta admit though, the scene with Peter walking down the street was just funny

Even if people did find it funny, it still doesn't make it being in there better for the movie. Dark-Peter should have been DARK and really troubled. Like I said, the scene at the end of the "Jazz off" where Peter gets mad at the bouncer for grabbing him was perfect, had they taken the whole Dark-Peter arc like this (and changed the suit so it was actually attached to him like it should be) then it would have been awesome. But by adding in the cheese ball moments it just makes the film seem stupid and you cant take what the black suit does seriously. It actually hurts Venom as well because had the audience known what the black suit did to Peter (if they had made him really truly dark) then Venom would have seemed much more menacing. IMO they F*'d up big time with this. The point is that Venom, the black suit, and Peter are serious story aspects and are meant to be disturbing, but because of they way they handled it it seemed like comic relief, which ruined about 25% of the movie and impacted the seriousness of the remaining 75% of the movie.

^Definitely not fighting that...i think the 90s animated series actually did a decent job of showing exactly that.

I was also wondering about the suit not being on him the whole time and just flowing over him like it's supposed to. Although to be fair, in the early comics, Peter took it off just like his regular outfit. But yea, making it like his red and blue duds and simply turning it black was a copout IMO.

In addition, whatever happened to the premise that JOhn Jameson brought it down to earth?...I guess I missed the memo when they scrapped that idea.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Even if people did find it funny, it still doesn't make it being in there better for the movie. Dark-Peter should have been DARK and really troubled. Like I said, the scene at the end of the "Jazz off" where Peter gets mad at the bouncer for grabbing him was perfect, had they taken the whole Dark-Peter arc like this (and changed the suit so it was actually attached to him like it should be) then it would have been awesome. But by adding in the cheese ball moments it just makes the film seem stupid and you cant take what the black suit does seriously. It actually hurts Venom as well because had the audience known what the black suit did to Peter (if they had made him really truly dark) then Venom would have seemed much more menacing. IMO they F*'d up big time with this. The point is that Venom, the black suit, and Peter are serious story aspects and are meant to be disturbing, but because of they way they handled it it seemed like comic relief, which ruined about 25% of the movie and impacted the seriousness of the remaining 75% of the movie.

touche

Originally posted by chithappens
touche

Despite all of this, I'm not saying it was a horrible movie by any means, I'd still give the movie an 8/10. With Spiderman 1 being a 9/10 and Spiderman 2 being a 7.5/10. I just think the movie could have (and should have) been much better, much darker, and much less convoluted. It could have been amazing, it had the potential to be the best of the 3 but instead it was only just "good" and still not as good as Spidey 1.

My main grudge with the movie is Venom's screentime.He was byfar the coolest villain in the movie, and he was tottally the least used.Sandman was done, he didnt need to help Venom out.It would have depicted the Venom character much better if Spidey took him on one on one, and still had to get saved by Harry etc.Still I LOVED the movie, it was still great, and hopefully they will bring Venom back in the 4rth and make up for his lack of character development and screentime.I felt satisfied with the end of every villains story in this movie besides Venom, it was all too short and sudden for him, and thats a shame!

Just got back from seeing it, thought it was fantastic, loved they finaly seem to nail Spider-man's humour side of his character or even just his light heartedness like where he gets the key to the city poses and shouts "SHAZAM" that seemed very Spider-man to me, and how he joked about he was the Sheriff in town to sandman.

Although I would like to see this character depth Kirsten dunst added I think everything she did in that film has happened at some point or another in the comics...

Also and Harry was awsome in this and the team up worked so well, I loved this film def the best one..although the fight between Spidey and Doc Ock in the second still makes me smile...

Originally posted by Spiderman_RJ
it was rushed becouse venom was not even suposed to be in there its all venoms,avi arads,and fanboys fault, you guys crapped a good movie.

It still was a good movie, if anything, Venom made it better.I was sick of seeing Sandman, he doesnt appeal to me.They spent too much time developing an un-interesting villain.They KNEW he was un-interesting, so they tried to make him interesting, by making him Uncle Ben's killer.Failed, while I did overall enjoy Sandman's fight scenes, They should have focused on Venom more, its obvious he is the more interesting character.

Overall the movie still ruled!I dont care what anyone says...that was a good movie!

I thought it was amazing.I give it an A

Well I thought imo,it was better than any other Super hero film I have seen.I hate you all were let down,but I came out rather satified and happy.Spiderman 3 gets an A from me!Better than the x men trilogy,and puts Superman Returns to shame.I think all around the best.Sorry I sound like a nut hugger but I was realy happy.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Despite all of this, I'm not saying it was a horrible movie by any means, I'd still give the movie an 8/10. With Spiderman 1 being a 9/10 and Spiderman 2 being a 7.5/10. I just think the movie could have (and should have) been much better, much darker, and much less convoluted. It could have been amazing, it had the potential to be the best of the 3 but instead it was only just "good" and still not as good as Spidey 1. Not a chance. Dude, Venom is one of my favorite Spiderman villains but truth is " He's not that interesting sometimes". I agree that I would have liked to see more screen time with him as Venom but hes just a physical confrontation. Sandman provided the perfect (not necessarily an evil villain ) role and Harry was done even better. But it was better than one to me. GG came off waay cheesier in part one that Peter in part 3. I cringe at some of GGs lines in part one.

I have to say that this movie felt more like an episode of one of the animated tales from the older saturday morning cartoon. The script was silly and had NO substance what so ever...it was just silly. The entire movie felt like a spoof fro the previous two films. There was no character development towards the sandman or Venom. I also was dissapointed because i personally diddnt feel much of a contrast between spiderman and parker, and this is probably because Spiderman wasnt in the movie. EVen when Spiderman was on film, it was peter parker.
So i agree wit the thread starter in that this flick had great potential but failed horribly on nearly al accounts. Just as Sandman's character was about to be delved into, the story switches to Brock, and then to osborne. I'm still not sure what it is the movie was supposed to have revolved around. The symbiote and sandman felt as though they were just thrown in the film because they offered potential for nice CGI, because there really was no back story offered in the movie, With the Sandman they tried to fix this problem by making Sandman the killer of Parkers uncle which was cheap and redundant, just like the entire film. The CGI was nice, but even the aciton sequences felt unemotional and anti climatic....4/10

Originally posted by D-Wag
Oh yea it was definitely rushed, seem like the movie just flew by. I'll wait till its out on video to see it again though. The movie just wasn't how I thought it would be; I was so hyped up for the big fight scenes and they turned out to be bland

I agree man. Where was the supposed dark tone for this film? The flick was crammed full of unwarranted comedic scenes that felt embarrassingly out of place. The fight scenes were also very dissapointing. The final fight scene where osbourne joins the fray, i almost felt some kind of emotion, but that fizzled out fast

The movie was painful to watch. I was eager as anyone else to see it. I was very open minded for the first half hour, even though I saw a few things that was unusual for a Sam Raimi Spider-Man film. By the next hour, I leaned over to my buddy and asked him honestly if he was enjoying this. He said "no & that the movie reminds him of what Sam Raimi put out when he did Darkman. A little forced, corball, campy, too coincidental, weak script... etc." All from the first 1 1/2 hours.

Peter's EMO/bad guy transformation was ridiculous. What??? The wacky John Travolta/Borat dancing down the street and at the club was embarrassing. What were the producers thinking???

How can Sandman cry???

The crying and tears throughout got annoying cause it looked forced and fake. The people in the theatre actually laughed and moaned when Peter cried in front of MJ.

When MJ was hanging 80 stories up in a taxi and Peter took a moment to reflect putting on his regular red and blue costume, someone in the audience actually yelled, " Just put the effing costume on and save her stupid!" The theatre laughed at that outburst.

The film had WAY too many unnecessary scenes with characters talking that did not add to the film, but made it longer and more boring. Harry and MJ making eggs and dancing, to name one. Too many more to even add.

Bottom line... I was thoroughly disappointed. Even X-Men 3, which was a huge drop off from the amazing X-2, was watchable. Spidey 3 is not.

I won't be watching it again. That is too bad.

I just saw it, and i'm going to see it again tomorrow

I was a bit disappointed with it, mainly because it takes FOREVER for Spidey to get the black costume on.

And when he finally does get it on, we hardly see any Black Suit action (besides the Sand-Man fight), most of the time he's just being a dick in his peter parker life, which makes no sense, because I thought the suit was supposed to make him more aggressive, not more of a campy dirtbag.

Plus, the entire emo look he gave himself was laughably bad. Seriously, my friends and I were cracking up when he shifted his hair over his eyes and what not.

If anything, this film made me appreciate the first two films, for what a Spider-Man film SHOULD be.

The best things about the film were...

1.) The Humor (Especially how Spidey reacted after fighting Sand-Man for the first time )

2.) Venom!: The look was dead on! Hell everything about him was dead-on. But, Nooo! They had to go and *kill* him in the end

3.)Bruce Cambell: Because you can never have too much Cambell

Did anyone notice that Parker kinda looked like Hitler with the emo hairdo???

i honestly thought it sucked, the theter i was in was packed and i saw it at 12:01, the first showing, after the movie everyone in the theater stood up and booed

The action was good...but it had too many awkward, lame "funny" scenes and lines that made me cringe.

It was like hearing the "Do you know what happens to toad...?" line again and again....

Also it was too rushed. They made the same mistake with X-3 where they crammed as many half-thought out plotlines as possible....

Did anyone notice that they expanded on the whole "Fighting while falling" camera angle? They did it like three times.

My only issues with it was They never called Venom by name, And Venom called himself by plural names such as 'us' and 'we'. And he never saw himself as bad or a villain, he always thought he was the hero and Spiderman was the villain.

Spiderman would never have just let Sandman get away.

The pumpkin bomb should've killed Harry the way it killed Eddie and the Symboite.

And I do NOT need to see that many shots of Toby MaGuire's crotch and ass.

My only issues with it was They never called Venom by name, And Venom called himself by plural names such as 'us' and 'we'. And he never saw himself as bad or a villain, he always thought he was the hero and Spiderman was the villain.

Spiderman would never have just let Sandman get away.

The pumpkin bomb should've killed Harry the way it killed Eddie and the Symboite.

And I do NOT need to see that many shots of Toby MaGuire's crotch and ass.

Originally posted by Starhawk

Spiderman would never have just let Sandman get away.

The pumpkin bomb should've killed Harry the way it killed Eddie and the Symboite.



Didn't the bomb fail yo kill Spidey in the first movie? Im pretty sure GG threw one at him and exploded near point blank.

Yes but in the movie when he throws it, it blows the whole back part of the room apart.

Do you agree with my other points?

I agree that we saw too much of SPidey's crotch, yes.

But in terms of Sandman, I don't think movie SPiderman even has the ability to kill Sandman. And the Sandman wasn't intrested in fighting anymore, anyway.

If they were going to have a hearts and flowers ending of that, he should talked marko into turning himself in to make up for killing Ben.

Do you agree they got Venom wrong?

Too many people were f**king crying in the movie.

It was "Emo-Spiderman" all over the place.

I lost count the number of tears I saw in the movie...

Boo-hoo!

Originally posted by Starhawk
My only issues with it was They never called Venom by name, And Venom called himself by plural names such as 'us' and 'we'. And he never saw himself as bad or a villain, he always thought he was the hero and Spiderman was the villain.

Spiderman would never have just let Sandman get away.

The pumpkin bomb should've killed Harry the way it killed Eddie and the Symboite.

And I do NOT need to see that many shots of Toby MaGuire's crotch and ass.

REALLY...thats the only problems you had with the movie as far as venom and sandman goes?

I agree that i dont need to see maguire ass and crotch shots or a half dozen scenes of him trying to cry

But remember Marko didn't really "murder" him, in a sense. (Unless I interpreted the flashback wrong)

Marko held the gun to Ben, and when the lackey ran by he accidentally shot him.

Originally posted by xkalybr
TThe crying and tears throughout got annoying cause it looked forced and fake. The people in the theatre actually laughed and moaned when Peter cried in front of MJ.

When MJ was hanging 80 stories up in a taxi and Peter took a moment to reflect putting on his regular red and blue costume, someone in the audience actually yelled, " Just put the effing costume on and save her stupid!" The theatre laughed at that outburst.


The same thing happened in my theater where people often laughed at the forced and redundant crying scenes.

There was no real journey of him going from the Black back to his original costume...In other words it diddnt feel like he had left behind his original costume for a very long time. consididering this, that scene where he goes to dawn his red and blues felt sad because you knew what raimi was trying to say, but had no effect due to his blunder of not seperating The Parker and spiderman characters. Infact this was one of his biggest problems in the previous movies, There was no real dynamic between Spiderman and Parker aside form the mask.

Originally posted by Starhawk

Do you agree they got Venom wrong?

I agree that Venom felt as though he diddnt belong in the movie. There was no real build up to his character genesis let alone what was supposed to be the big climatic battle. Besides...Where was Venom?

Why does venom need a buildup? he's near friggen mindless, and he has no morals. All HE does is just... ya know... kill things.

Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
Why does venom need a buildup? he's near friggen mindless, and he has no morals. All HE does is just... ya know... kill things.

Why does a movie character need build up?

Considering That Venom was supposed to be a draw of the movie and the fact that he is spidermans most popular enemy is two good reasons.

Forgiving the fact that The symbiote substance was hardly even acknowledged or explained. I had hopes that the symbiote Spiderman or Venom would have atleast some kind of screen presence, but Venom offered nothing other than filler to unbalanced ending battle. The Symbiote suit had no identity in the movie other than appearing to make anyone whom comes in contact with it mad and strong.

Really, The symbiote was the focal point of the film because it made Peter parker take for granted everything, aswell as make him blind towards his purpose. Atleast this is what the shitty script refelcts. I truly believe that Raimi chose for nothing else to introduce The symbiote for this reason only, to give Peter Parkers story life for another film, and not tell the story of the symbiote He missed the mark completely by turning his back on the story that the Symbiote has.

Personally, I enjoyed the fight scenes. I liked them a lot. Sandman had always been one of my favorite spidey villains, and his cgi was well done. Aside from that, the story blew. And I've noticed the franchises thing with killing off everyone cool at the end of the movie. I.E Goblin in the 1st. Ock in the 2nd. And the only one left that had a possibility of being the Goblin in the forth movie, Harry, dies in the third. But wait, since the writers already took it upon themselves to create bogus plot-twists, like having Sandman be Uncle Bens real killer (that PISSED me off!) They might just go ahead and make that old butler the new goblin. I can see it now..... "First there was the Green Goblin... then the new Goblin(which was a lazy name assignment)... Finally, the But-Goblin!!!"

I did kind of like this new Venom. Took some getting used to, but I think it was a refreshing change from the old hack-slash-and-dismember Venom into a more clever and wicked enemy. The only reason old Venom was ever beaten by spidey was because he was a damn idiot. New venom didn't seem to have as much of a problem in that department.

Originally posted by Muck101
I did kind of like this new Venom. Took some getting used to, but I think it was a refreshing change from the old hack-slash-and-dismember Venom into a more clever and wicked enemy. The only reason old Venom was ever beaten by spidey was because he was a damn idiot. New venom didn't seem to have as much of a problem in that department.

Venom was always clever in the comics when it came how to lure parker into traps using Spidermans weakness of love and honor aswell sense of rsponsibility over citizens of the city. I just dont know how you were even able to build a a connection with Venom in the movie, he was only in it for about 10 minutes, but i am diggin your idea on the butt-goblin lol

One thing I missed was where was the cool swinging scene at the end, I thought that was supposed to be like Spider-man's sign off at the end of the films like Superman flying into space at the end of his, this one just had Pete Hugging MJ...

I wanted Peter to be more aggressive, not just cocky.

The subway fight was WAY too short.

Originally posted by Micheal_Myers
I think it would have been better, if they just focused the story around Venom as the central villain.It would have given the essential time to develop his character.Hopefully Venom will return in the 4rth and make up for his lack for screentime.And maybe they will do something about his god awful voice.I'm not downing the scenes with Venom, they were actually my favorite part of the movie.I think Venom was the coolest villain in the movie even though they could have done better with him.

I reckon they should have gone with the 1999 spider-man game venom for his voice that voice rocked.

There wasn't even the slightest bit of inhuman distortion in his voice wich pissed me off....i guess venom didnt have enough....VENOM lol

Anyway apart from that the movie kicked ass in imo was the best of the 3 it was AMAZIN

sandman problably left cos raimi wants to use him again,but this time on his own movie, not on a studio craped version,makes me hopes we get silver sable on next issue.

for the guys who said basically sandman sux,venom rox.
even if this movie was from start to finish about the black suit without the corny scenes, there wouldnt be enough development time to make venom a respectible character because he sucks, you saw what venom is , whinner,loser,"cool",vicious character,imersive as a 2d character.it was all there, the the REALLY short part where he slam,and aparently murder the police on the video,btw he did use fangs simbiont like carnage,that seemed out of character for him,he never used that in comics for attacks.venom fanboys got what they could expect from venom, bigger screen time would only make you see how suck he really is,and im not being agressive toward you fans,its true.
the not use of plural is clearly because the simbiont doesnt have a voice in the movie,he is just a parasitic creature,get over it!

I don't remember there being a sandman anyway in the cartoons.So why do they have him in the movie?jm

Alright I saw it 12:00 opening night with all the other spiderman geeks and everyone there including me seemed to love it. The acting on everyones part was great (especially Sandman and Goblin's) Everyone here seems to complain alot about scenes that didn't matter, such as the crying scenes and the comedy scenes. I'd like to point out this is called 'acting'. It's used in many films but apparently no one cares about it in this film. Venom was done well though he reminded me a bit of Gollum at some points like his random screeching and jumping all over the place. Not quite the Venom I remember but heck he was still good, their Edddie wasn't like the eddie from the old comics so the symbiote changed differently.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I don't remember there being a sandman anyway in the cartoons.So why do they have him in the movie?jm
I'm hoping this is a joke because if it isn't than get off the spider-man forum go down to a comic shop and read some damn spider-man

i think someone said it best when they said "venom seem to lack...... venom"

Originally posted by lando005
i think someone said it best when they said "venom seem to lack...... venom"
they changed him to fit thier own standards however I have a feeling this isn't the end of him. There was an interview and the person said their character seemed to die but didn't. So perhaps a carnage/venom thing in the next film and Venom will turn out more of how we remember him from the comics, personality wise that is. In the first appearance though he really acted about how he did in the film ruthless and evil

Two of my best friends saw it yesterday. It sucked. Venom sucked and was a little time , and topher looks like an idiot playing eddie brock. Sandman sucked, peter parker suked, mary jane sucked, gwen was a cameo, etc. The script was crap, too many storylines and none well developed, the lame scenes with peter dancing and playing the piano were terrible, etc. Worst movie of the three and one of the worst movies of all time, paired with batman and robin.

Man spider 3 its super bad.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Two of my best friends saw it yesterday. It sucked. Venom sucked and was a little time , and topher looks like an idiot playing eddie brock. Sandman sucked, peter parker suked, mary jane sucked, gwen was a cameo, etc. The script was crap, too many storylines and none well developed, the lame scenes with peter dancing and playing the piano were terrible, etc. Worst movie of the three and one of the worst movies of all time, paired with batman and robin.

Man spider 3 its super bad.
I swear to god GET OFF OF THIS FORUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No one wants to hear your consistent bitching especially when it's of this movie why do you even watch it? You hated the last to this one will be no different, so please I beg of you to just leave here.

Sorry for you, dude, but im not leaving these forums and i would express my opinion when i want.

And those friends of mine are very confidential, in fact, their opinion are very similar of mine.

baker i was forced to report you,everyone has the right to express themself,hence this is a forum,but you are always coming here to yell and ***** about the movies,we get it already you dont like then why come everytime trolling about it?
you didnt even watch!even though if you did you would be probably worse cos then this time at least you would have some reason.but seriously stop,or you will be stoped.

Originally posted by bakerboy
I loved this film, I love you all...I want Venoms man babies because he is hott....with two t's!

it's amazing what you can do with quotes

What is the matter with that? I only was just expressing the opinion from some close friends of mine, that they told me that the movie was garbage. And i posted that their opinion is mine too because we have the same tastes. I dont see what is the problem with that

Its just the same than praising the movie before its release and posting that it will be rock and it will be great without seeing the movie. Why dont you reported them? In this time, at least, some people told me the movie very well, it isnt a blind opinion.

Originally posted by steverules
it's amazing what you can do with quotes

Well, this its part true. I love you all , and venom its hot, but i preffer carnage, he is way hotter.

How can we report them if they aren't on this forum, they aren't posting anything about the movie, you are

Originally posted by bakerboy
Sorry for you, dude, but im not leaving these forums and i would express my opinion when i want.

And those friends of mine are very confidential, in fact, their opinion are very similar of mine.
Go see the movie then post "constructive" criticism about the film. All you did was bash the film and you're basically not doing anything on this forum except spreading your hate and aggravating everyone. And in the quote you say I can express my opinion, but you arent even doing that you're expressing someone elses opinion.

And he fancies Carnage

The movie's fight scenes were pretty cool.... that's pretty much it as far as constructive, so I'll stop here.

I liked the bit in the cafe the most, Pete pwned those security guards...and the fight he had with Harry at the mansion

Originally posted by steverules
And he fancies Carnage

and WHAT is the problem with that?

...RJ is there something your not telling us...a secret we should maybe know about?

Originally posted by steverules
I liked the bit in the cafe the most, Pete pwned those security guards...and the fight he had with Harry at the mansion
The part with Bruce Campbell was hilarious and I loved the part where stan lee went 'nuff said

Yeah bit with Bruce Campbell was class

I thought it was a nice movie.

I would reccomend it to anyone who hasn't seen it and liked the previous installments.

I wonder who will be the villian or villians for Spider-Man 4 if they are gonna make one.

My money is on The Lizard.

I hope they get Toby to renew his contract to play Spider-Man atleast one last time since I can't see anyone else playing him.

Well with the rumours floating around ti seems like it might be Venom in Spidey 4.

I can't believe so many people hated this movie... I thought it was awesome! The fight scenes were incredible and it was so much more action packed than any of the others. I do agree that the whole black spidey thing was a bit too short and kind of lame... I mean sure I thought it was funny with him walking around like an emo john travolta but I thought he was going to be more evil and agressive. But IMO this one beats 1 and 2

I loved Thomas Haden Church as Sandman he really was perfect for the part

Originally posted by BlackC@
I wanted Peter to be more aggressive, not just cocky.

The subway fight was WAY too short.

Agreed

The suit was supposed to make him more aggressive and angry, but all he ended up acting like was a cocky emo douchebag.

Also, we only saw him in the black costume for 1 goddamn fight!

I mean considering how all the ads for this movie have been showing the black suit, you would think there would be a lot more time he spent in it other only in 1/3 of the movie

Originally posted by Grimm22
Agreed

The suit was supposed to make him more aggressive and angry, but all he ended up acting like was a cocky emo douchebag.

Also, we only saw him in the black costume for 1 goddamn fight!

I mean considering how all the ads for this movie have been showing the black suit, you would think there would be a lot more time he spent in it other only in 1/3 of the movie
He actually was in it for two fights, Harry and Sandman. But it was trying to explain how it was turning him into someone he wasn't. They had to have some acting in the movie, I was glad with how they balanced it all out. We had like seven fights in the movie if you include the cafe fight. While in the other movies we got like three.

I think it's six if you count the cafe fight:
1)Fight with Harry
2)Fight with Sandman
3)Fight with sandman round 2
4)Cafe fight
5)Fight with Harry round 3
6)Pete and Harry vs Venom and Sandman

Originally posted by steverules
I think it's six if you count the cafe fight:
1)Fight with Harry
2)Fight with Sandman
3)Fight with sandman round 2
4)Cafe fight
5)Fight with Harry round 3
6)Pete and Harry vs Venom and Sandman
I was considering the Sandman and Venom fight seperate at the end

EDIT: Fight with Harry round 2

Depends, some people will view it as one big battle, some will consider it two battles

two battles,my word is rule.
cos peter doesnt fight venom and sandman, he is beaten by venom than by sandman,harry comes, then he fights venom, then they fight sandman alone while venom just disapear from the show, then he fight venom to death and sand flee.

He doesn't really flee, he gets forgiven by Pete and leaves

Man why is almost everyone bitchin about this movie?

I'm one of the biggest Spiderman fans there is and I was skeptical as hell going into this movie. I didn't think any COMIC movie period could beat Spiderman 2 but some how they did it. Spiderman 3 was, well, Amazing! I mean yea there were a few bad points. Like Gwen had no reason to be in this movie at all. They just wanted to add her name to it. And I still am not completely cool with Topher Grace as Eddie Brock but I gotta admit I did warm up to him. I loved when he begged Peter not the expose him for the fake he was. lol

As far as everything else thou. Awesome! Just Awesome!

Peter and Harry was great. Been waitin 2 years to finally see that and I loved how Harry went out the same as in the coimcs.
Sandman was freakin sweet!
Screw all yall that disagree Peter going into and coming back from the suit was great and so fitting for his character.
Peter letting all the fandom of Spiderman go to his head was really good too.
With a few discrepancies Venom actually impressed the hell outta me. I was so convinced they were totally gonna blow that but I they could've done soooooo much worse. Would it kill them to have him refer to himself as we thou? ermm

Originally posted by xkalybr
The movie was painful to watch. I was eager as anyone else to see it. I was very open minded for the first half hour, even though I saw a few things that was unusual for a Sam Raimi Spider-Man film. By the next hour, I leaned over to my buddy and asked him honestly if he was enjoying this. He said "no & that the movie reminds him of what Sam Raimi put out when he did Darkman. A little forced, corball, campy, too coincidental, weak script... etc." All from the first 1 1/2 hours.

Peter's EMO/bad guy transformation was ridiculous. What??? The wacky John Travolta/Borat dancing down the street and at the club was embarrassing. What were the producers thinking???

How can Sandman cry???

The crying and tears throughout got annoying cause it looked forced and fake. The people in the theatre actually laughed and moaned when Peter cried in front of MJ.

When MJ was hanging 80 stories up in a taxi and Peter took a moment to reflect putting on his regular red and blue costume, someone in the audience actually yelled, " Just put the effing costume on and save her stupid!" The theatre laughed at that outburst.

The film had WAY too many unnecessary scenes with characters talking that did not add to the film, but made it longer and more boring. Harry and MJ making eggs and dancing, to name one. Too many more to even add.

Bottom line... I was thoroughly disappointed. Even X-Men 3, which was a huge drop off from the amazing X-2, was watchable. Spidey 3 is not.

I won't be watching it again. That is too bad.

heh hee.Not at all surprising to hear because that describes the first two movies perfectly which you said so well,cornball,campy,a little forced,and they definetely had weak scripts so no reason to believe it would be any different than those two movies.yeah I have heard about that scene of him dancing down the street doing John Travolta.Oh my god,I cant believe they could possibly do something so stupid like that. Well With Raimi and Sony producing these films actually I can,anythings possible with those idiots in control over the franchise.

My friends tell me that the people werent even laughting with those scenes with peter dacing in the street like travolta and then playing the piano as billy joel.It was so ridiculous and painful to watch that it wasnt even funny.

Really, raimi and sonny starting destroying this franchise with the first man spider,and in this one they have finished the job.

Dude...see it, ok...before you make judgements because it really isn't that much of a bad movie...stop complaining

I thought it was a bit predictable with what happens to Pete/Harry.
The Spidey CG were still unconvincing with no weight and the fights were too fast and showy with the cg,the Peter jazz club scene was dire and was the Emo fringe supposed to be cool?.

Plus points were Hayden Church,the Venom face CG ,Bryce Howard and J Jonah stole every scene he was in and good to see spidey with the cocky at last.

Originally posted by vintageSW77
I thought it was a bit predictable with what happens to Pete/Harry.
The Spidey CG were still unconvincing with no weight and the fights were too fast and showy with the cg,the Peter jazz club scene was dire and was the Emo fringe supposed to be cool?.

Plus points were Hayden Church,the Venom face CG ,Bryce Howard and J Jonah stole every scene he was in and good to see spidey with the cocky at last.

To bad Spiderman wasnt in it very much. It was all peter Parker. I think they should have CGI'ed his horrible crying scenes, because that was some of the worst acting ive seen in a while, and i just got done watching smoking aces

Originally posted by Mr Parker
heh hee.Not at all surprising to hear because that describes the first two movies perfectly which you said so well,cornball,campy,a little forced,and they definetely had weak scripts so no reason to believe it would be any different than those two movies.yeah I have heard about that scene of him dancing down the street doing John Travolta.Oh my god,I cant believe they could possibly do something so stupid like that. Well With Raimi and Sony producing these films actually I can,anythings possible with those idiots in control over the franchise.

Do you hate people in general?

Originally posted by Entity
Man why is almost everyone bitchin about this movie?

I'm one of the biggest Spiderman fans there is and I was skeptical as hell going into this movie. I didn't think any COMIC movie period could beat Spiderman 2 but some how they did it. Spiderman 3 was, well, Amazing! I mean yea there were a few bad points. Like Gwen had no reason to be in this movie at all. They just wanted to add her name to it. And I still am not completely cool with Topher Grace as Eddie Brock but I gotta admit I did warm up to him. I loved when he begged Peter not the expose him for the fake he was. lol

As far as everything else thou. Awesome! Just Awesome!

Peter and Harry was great. Been waitin 2 years to finally see that and I loved how Harry went out the same as in the coimcs.
Sandman was freakin sweet!
Screw all yall that disagree Peter going into and coming back from the suit was great and so fitting for his character.
Peter letting all the fandom of Spiderman go to his head was really good too.
With a few discrepancies Venom actually impressed the hell outta me. I was so convinced they were totally gonna blow that but I they could've done soooooo much worse. Would it kill them to have him refer to himself as we thou? ermm

maybe becouse some people like me like a well written script instead of a flick made for mindless people, i mean i know this is target for a child audiency but thats not a excuse to come with a shallow script like that.
i enjoyed and repit, i enjoyed bits of it,like as you mentioned the harry peter relationship,it was great, realy true to comics,even the amnesia hapened in a comic,but BITS dont make a movie.it overall looked that they just start meddling ideas and put it into a final cut.and if rumours that the movie started shotting without a closed script,it makes even more sense.

come on guys, the movie was not that bad bad, it was darn good but was not great like we wanted it to be, maybe because we were so hyped, anyway the flaws of the movie was mainly the over extended talking and love sences, and a bit of more more fight action with sandman and vemon would have helped too...... i personaly wanted to see sandman, he kicked ass, he was definately no joke in this movie, good thing they didn't decied to kill him with the water scene with blacksidey, venom was good, i mean cgi and all that stuff, but needed more time on screen. so buttom line, it was a very good movie but not a great one, i still think it was better than 1 but somehow on the same level or just alittle better than 2. regardless it was a good movie...

I had to make this thread to balance out all the b*tching that people have been doing.

I saw the Midnight showing of this Thursday night, and loved it.

The fight scenes were stellar, and I found myself unconsciously gripping my seat several times in the Spidey-Goblin fight.

Some of the dancing parts were kind of... sad, but overall I found the movie to be pretty good. Better then the first one, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Spiderman_RJ
maybe becouse some people like me like a well written script instead of a flick made for mindless people, i mean i know this is target for a child audiency but thats not a excuse to come with a shallow script like that.
i enjoyed and repit, i enjoyed bits of it,like as you mentioned the harry peter relationship,it was great, realy true to comics,even the amnesia hapened in a comic,but BITS dont make a movie.it overall looked that they just start meddling ideas and put it into a final cut.and if rumours that the movie started shotting without a closed script,it makes even more sense.
I disagree. The plot was well written, I don't see what was wrong with it at all. The script was fine me and most other people have no problem with it. I think people who say I came in open minded and hated it, didn't really come in open minded. I mean you and many other comic obsessed people on here seem to not be able to get past the fact that it's not going to be like the comics. They don't just want comic fans, they want people who usually wouldn't go see a comic film to come. The only reason I'm even bothering writing this is because I don't want another Mr.Parker/Bakerboy running around on this forum.

Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
I had to make this thread to balance out all the b*tching that people have been doing.

I saw the Midnight showing of this Thursday night, and loved it.

The fight scenes were stellar, and I found myself unconsciously gripping my seat several times in the Spidey-Goblin fight.

Some of the dancing parts were kind of... sad, but overall I found the movie to be pretty good. Better then the first one, in my opinion.
I thought it was the best one so far. But some(most) people on here feel the need to whine to everyone about how much they hate the film.

Originally posted by Draco69
hysterical
Yeah, this is why I could care less about half of your opinions...

well after your response to me, i change my opinion and i couldnt care less about your, i give a F*** if everyone things the same, thats what makes me a individual that i can think for myselft and not go along with everyone.
and who the hell are you calling comic fan obssessed?im not obsessed and if you knew me from since the first movie here, you know that i didnt care much to the changes they made and could make to this series,but the script was shallow,this was not even a movie aimed for kids,cos im my session they werent enjoying it much.it was just bad written,if you like good for you.and dont dare call me baker boy!
its spell greed all over.and though the end of the movie i could hear,arad arad arad being spoken repetedly.

I HATE THIS MOVIE! YOU SHOULD TOO!
IT SUCKS! BLANTANT DESCHARATERIZATION!
< MAN SPIDER! MAN SPIDER! MAN SPIDER!

yah,im being sarcastic

I really think that if they had only cut sandman's screen time and development way down or just remove him completely in favor of eddie brock/symbiote development, the movie would have been like an unbelievable amount better.

i dont think he helped the movie in anyway, like everyone here already said, hes just an uninteresting character that raimi failed to make interesting.

they just kind of wasted all the potential to make a really good venom. i mean eddie brock was barely in it and all that happens to him is that peter ruins his career and sort of takes his girlfriend that he apparently didn't care about and that we never actually saw him with. then suddenly hes in a church asking God to kill peter parker? they just didnt make him nearly as important as he should have been.

when will you learn NO AMOUNT OF SCREEN TIME WOULD MAKE VENOM BETTER,HE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW! A WHIMP SELF PITY LOSER!
HE GOT MORE SCREEN TIME THEN DESERVED!

he stole the light from green goblin2 wich was what this movie should had been centered on.

Originally posted by Spiderman_RJ
when will you learn NO AMOUNT OF SCREEN TIME WOULD MAKE VENOM BETTER,HE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW! A WHIMP SELF PITY LOSER!
HE GOT MORE SCREEN TIME THEN DESERVED!

You got that right, bub.

Originally posted by Spiderman_RJ
well after your response to me, i change my opinion and i couldnt care less about your, i give a F*** if everyone things the same, thats what makes me a individual that i can think for myselft and not go along with everyone.
and who the hell are you calling comic fan obssessed?im not obsessed and if you knew me from since the first movie here, you know that i didnt care much to the changes they made and could make to this series,but the script was shallow,this was not even a movie aimed for kids,cos im my session they werent enjoying it much.it was just bad written,if you like good for you.and dont dare call me baker boy!
its spell greed all over.and though the end of the movie i could hear,arad arad arad being spoken repetedly.
Alright let's get something straight here RJ. I'm trying to be nice and not offensive but apparently your just some p.o.'d person who wants to start fights. I've seen you act irrational time and time again on this forum and frankly it's annoying. But I would like it if when you insult me you try to use proper spelling and at least some decent grammar. Your first part their saying "I couldn't care less about your, i give a f*** if everyone things the same," doesn't really make much sense to me. I think you were saying I'm mad at you for having an opinion, but I'm not and I don't recall saying anything along the lines of: you must think what I think you can't disagree with me. I mean because I didn't say that or mean that. I called you comic obsessed because at the bottom of your post it seems like you're saying the only parts you enjoyed were parts that were true to the comic, though it seems I've misinterpreted that so for that I apologize. Also, I didn't ever call you baker boy, I said I didn't want you to end up like them, but from what you've just written to me you seem to be about on the same level as them, maybe worse.

Originally posted by Draco69
The action scenes were great....but to say the plot was "well-written" is just hysterical.





It was passable at best.
I thought it was good, maybe I throw around the term well-written to lightly. It wasn't great but it was better than some other recent comic movies I've seen.

Worst Spiderman ever made.

Originally posted by atharpina
I really think that if they had only cut sandman's screen time and development way down or just remove him completely in favor of eddie brock/symbiote development, the movie would have been like an unbelievable amount better.

i dont think he helped the movie in anyway, like everyone here already said, hes just an uninteresting character that raimi failed to make interesting.

they just kind of wasted all the potential to make a really good venom. i mean eddie brock was barely in it and all that happens to him is that peter ruins his career and sort of takes his girlfriend that he apparently didn't care about and that we never actually saw him with. then suddenly hes in a church asking God to kill peter parker? they just didnt make him nearly as important as he should have been.
I think( though I love Venom) that he should have been saved for Spider-man 4. Sandman was imo a good character and I think Church did an excellent job. So was GG2. Venom lacked though, he was good but he needed to be better explained. Connors would've been a good substitute for Venom.

It was good, but not as good as Spider-Man 2, or Spider-Man 1 for that matter.

Too much stuff crammed in, not enough character development for the villains.

Originally posted by Spiderman_RJ
when will you learn NO AMOUNT OF SCREEN TIME WOULD MAKE VENOM BETTER,HE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAW! A WHIMP SELF PITY LOSER!
HE GOT MORE SCREEN TIME THEN DESERVED!

he stole the light from green goblin2 wich was what this movie should had been centered on.



of course he was self-pitying, that was like the whole angle they were going for with him.

im just saying they should have done a better job setting up his self-pitying and made it more reasonable to be so hateful towards peter.

adding the cancer element would have helped a lot i think. make him be dying and then have evil symbiote peter take all that stuff away from him. then ill believe that he really wants God to kill peter.

apologies on my part,but i keep everything said about the movie.

cancer? atharpia even scrathing the whole pure silly scenes if it had focused on that angle the movie would had 3 hours and something!

The movie was good, but not nearly as good as Spider-Man 2, or Spider-Man 1 for that matter.

Too much stuff crammed in, the villains were very under developed, too much cheesy moments for such a supposedly darker movie.

Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
I had to make this thread to balance out all the b*tching that people have been doing.

I saw the Midnight showing of this Thursday night, and loved it.

The fight scenes were stellar, and I found myself unconsciously gripping my seat several times in the Spidey-Goblin fight.

Some of the dancing parts were kind of... sad, but overall I found the movie to be pretty good. Better then the first one, in my opinion.

You don't know what makes a good movie. The writing was poor, the acting was poor, the story was so different from the comic book that they might as well make it a completely different superhero movie. The plot development was non-existant, there was way too much drama, EVERYTHING was wrong.

Originally posted by Spiderman_RJ
apologies on my part,but i keep everything said about the movie.

cancer? atharpia even scrathing the whole pure silly scenes if it had focused on that angle the movie would had 3 hours and something!
Thanks for your apology

Originally posted by Spiderman_RJ
apologies on my part,but i keep everything said about the movie.

cancer? atharpia even scrathing the whole pure silly scenes if it had focused on that angle the movie would had 3 hours and something!

nah i dont think so.

all they have to do is:

show peter and eddie's mutual dislike(as they did)

show peter being more successful

show eddie getting diagnosed

show peter taking away gwen

show eddie losing his job(as they did)

doing these story elements wouldnt have to be really drawn out or anything. if they were, itd be boring anyways. i just really think it would have made for a better movie

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
You don't know what makes a good movie.


Oh, and you do, then?

There is no such thing as a "good movie". It all comes down to people's opinion, and preference.

pancakes i know it wasnt your intention and please dont be offended for me twisting you affirmation,but you nailed exactly the flaw of this movie and many others.
now a days the concept of good written movie directed at people who are smart is long gone,its all wraped to fall into everyones taste and likeness,and goes down to people opinions, they try to center on what most people like so they can make the most buck out of it,thats why most movie are such cliche and alike,becouse they fear to cross the we know what is safe line and go somewhere else.
and people dont mind,most of them becouse they lack their own opinion,you know a phrase that goes like this?
" a individual is smart,the society is not" albert einstein (sorta like this i trasnlated from portuguese).
if it please the masses (society) thats all they care,thats why movies that are very written are generely production who are not liked by the "general public".
i dont consider myself part of general public,wich is why im used to more smart movie,and i understand of scripting and story telling having done cinema course,and thats why i couldnt stand this movie,the last ones were well done even if they were not that much really but they were enjoyable,the felt a unified movie,this one does not,and it screams its not.thats my grief with it,they could do all they wanted to venom and sandman ,HECK they could make SPOT kill uncle ben, as long as the script was tied toguether and it felt like one bigger story unlike many diferent bits put toguether i would have liked it.

Originally posted by The Joker#1
The movie was good, but not nearly as good as Spider-Man 2, or Spider-Man 1 for that matter.

Too much stuff crammed in, the villains were very under developed, too much cheesy moments for such a supposedly darker movie.

THis movie was sUPPose to be DArk?! I can only compare its "darkness" to Castlevania 2 : Simons quest.

I thought the fight scenes with Harry were awesome. They made the movie for me. The Sandman at the end was too much. He was too big, and come on, Spidey taking poundings like that wouldn't exactly heal in time to beat Venom. Venom's character was well-developed, but the Sandman was rushed. Frankly I could have seen the movie without the Sandman.

Originally posted by Altar
THis movie was sUPPose to be DArk?! I can only compare its "darkness" to Castlevania 2 : Simons quest.

LOL! Yeah. It had a whole revenge theme, but it was too campy.

Originally posted by wolverex84
come on guys, the movie was not that bad bad, it was darn good but was not great like we wanted it to be, maybe because we were so hyped, anyway the flaws of the movie was mainly the over extended talking and love sences, and a bit of more more fight action with sandman and vemon would have helped too...... i personaly wanted to see sandman, he kicked ass, he was definately no joke in this movie, good thing they didn't decied to kill him with the water scene with blacksidey, venom was good, i mean cgi and all that stuff, but needed more time on screen. so buttom line, it was a very good movie but not a great one, i still think it was better than 1 but somehow on the same level or just alittle better than 2. regardless it was a good movie...

I thought that i was so dissapointed because it was so hyped aswell, but it really wasnt a good movie at all, No character development, no direction of a story, no build up for emotional battle sequences. Really by the time we reached the final battle i was just waiting for the damn thing to end so i cold have a smoke, and go see hot fuzz again

Originally posted by Fianchettoer
I thought the fight scenes with Harry were awesome. They made the movie for me. The Sandman at the end was too much. He was too big, and come on, Spidey taking poundings like that wouldn't exactly heal in time to beat Venom. Venom's character was well-developed, but the Sandman was rushed. Frankly I could have seen the movie without the Sandman.

I agree with you on the sandman not being needed. I think for me it was that the sandman and venoms characters were just underdevoleped.
I dont know though, spidey could probably take a beating like that from sandman and still have enough reserve left over. I just thought it was funny how The situation was rushed so much into being emotional, Spidey gets slammed three times and we cut to the media saying...this could be the end of Spiderman...i mean come on now ..lol that was poor movie making right there

i havent seen the film yet, but i am 100% THAT I WILL i like it, i am watching it tomorrow sunday and i will be back to post my review.

Originally posted by Draco69
I agree with pretty much everything you said here...are you my soulmate???



Yes? sweatdrop

I found Spider-Man 2 to be much better than this. It's the highlight of the franchise.

Spider-Man 3 is the classic case of biting off more than you can chew. Too many plots, not enough screen time.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
More than half of the movie critics and yahoo reviewers who know nothing about the comics and only went to see this movie to see a good film are shitting all over it as well.
How can you say it had a well written plot? What was the plot? Peter Parker struggling with arrogance, and his darker side? Well, if that were the case it was not executed very well. This story was told better in the previous movie. The symbiote and sandman had NO story...leaving us with no connection towards them. The balance between Spiderman and Parker was nearly non-existent. the dialogue tried to sway towards a darker feel, but was horribly off balanced with all of the senseless humor, and redundant scenes of forced emotion

Yes, him struggling with his darker side was the plot line along with struggling with his friends and loved ones. This story wasn't at all told in the previous film, the last one was about him trying to be spider-man and Peter Parker and trying to balance it all out. Which he for the most part has by now. The symbiote as you said didn't have much of an origin, but Sandman DID have a story, how did you miss that? He killed uncle Ben in a small time robbery while attempting to get money to save his daughter. He was arrested, then escaped and became sandman. As for humor, the street scene was more or less trying to show he was care free now and didn't even care that he'd just broken up with the love of his life. He was turning evil but they wanted to lighten the mood and add some comedy into the movie. The thing in the Cafe showed him taking a kind of vengeance on MJ for dumping him.

and now I'm done discussing the subject so please everyone don't reply to this I dont feel like debating anymore

Spiderman 2 is my favorite, great structure underlying and outer story. great flow.

This sucked & like anomaly more or less said. Given the plots they were using they couldnt of made the movie any better and use those plots at the same time.
It was esentialy just to much.If any one of the plots had been just removed, then the movie would be better. What the hell was the point of putting three ****in villian stories in it anyway. because of all the different plots a long ass(and let me say very ****in boring) setup was required.
The movie didn't kick off until the symbiote took over, and that was to damn short. I think had the sandman plot been taking away some of the love story cut back, more could have been concenttrated on the symbiote story and venom story.
I could go on and on about the flaws of the structure but frankly i dont want to, it just sucked

yo the movie should of been harry & sandman oriented or symbitote and harry oriented

Seemed way to rushed and too many storylines crammed into one movie. The producers just forced in Venom and Gwen for the fans, which ruined it because we got no character development at all.

And don't mess with Uncle Bens death. Just dont. It makes the whole scene in the first movie pointless.

This movie could have been stretched into at least 2 more movies. Now they used up 2 good villians up in one movie. Good job. Give us a crappy portrayal of Venom(although he was pretty sweet for the 2 minutes he got) and then just blow him up with no hope that he servived. Venom teaming up with Sandman was also lame. I never thought of Venom as the type up team with anyone accept maybe Carnage.

And dont even get me started on the nerdy emo Peter and his dancing.

Overall this movie had alot of potential and the fight scenes were pretty sweet mainly the first but the many story lines left it seeming empty of any heart. Harry was suprisingly the best part of the film IMO.

My biggest gripe? There was WAAAAAYYYYYY TTOOOO F*CKIIIIINNG MUUUCCHH screen time dedicated to the annoying mug of Tobey Maguire. He was taking off the mask all the time! If I go see SPIDER-MAN, I want to see SPIDER-MAN, not Tobey Maguire in Spider-Man suit without the mask or Tobey Maguire without the suit at all. Seriously, 90% of the film had no Spidey on it, just the freaking actor. GOD that annoyed me.

Then there is the whole Harry thing. Again, if I go see Spider-Man, I want him to do all the heroic stuff, not see Goblin save his ass at every turn. That freaking sucked.

I hated the "cocky Tobey Maguire" in the film when he had the black suit UNDER HIM, he was rarely wearing it...he was just annoying.

Oh yeah, you don't mess with the Uncle Ben's death, f*ckers. Thank's for taking out the BIGGEST thing in the Spider-Man mythos, jackasses. Sandman as the murderer of Uncle Ben? RETARDED.

Most of the humor was "bleh".

Too much time spent on the love scenes and too little time spent on Spider-Man.

...now on the good things.

Venom was nicely done. The way Spider-Man took him out was freaking excellent scene. It was easily one of the best fight scenes I have ever seen in movies. The symbiote acted accordingly like in comics.

All the fight scenes were good too.

The way Spider-Man saved Gwen Stacy? A+, that was awesome.

Err, oh yeah, I thought that the actress playing Gwen Stacy was hot. More screen time for her instead of whiny and annoying Kirsten Dunst who has only one thing in common with MJ in the comics...the color of their hair...

J. Jonah Jameson rocked. J.K Simmons is an excellent actor.

Spider-Man's dance was awesome.

...all in all, I would give this movie 7/10 at best. Plot would get a big 5. Fight scenes would get a 9. Easily the worst Spidey film ever.

Have someone else direct Spider-Man 4, please.

dont blame the director for the movie flaw he did what a director must do ,with the exception of guiding actor,raimi is not that good with it.BUT whoever write the script ,and okay,it was the director too........but have someone write a proper script next time.

I saw the film and I liked it. Between the 3 movies I place it at 3rd place. I love Gwen Stacy in the movie, she was gorgeous but like I said before, she had no place in the movie. Its amazing hoe ppl ***** that they want to see their favorite comic book character in a movie and the movie is actually made, all they can do is bash it and ***** about how unrealistic it is. Ive been reading Spidey comics for a long time now but when the movies come out I approach them as an alternate universe version because they aint gonna be exactly like the comic books and things will be changed. I think this movie was money well spent, it was very entertaining, the specia effects were awesome and just seeing Venom on screen was great!

Originally posted by Burnt Pancakes
Oh, and you do, then?

There is no such thing as a "good movie". It all comes down to people's opinion, and preference.

This is bullshit and if you believe this you have alot to learn.