King vs Adon
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Major Snafu
Capcom vs SNK, Muay Thai style.
There is a lot of bad blood between the French kickboxer and the former pupil of Sagat.
King has just found out from Ryo that he is going to be in Southtown for a tournament and for the next several days, King has been hard at work training at the Sakazaki family's Kyokugenryu school.
Ryo enters the dojo, just in time to avoid the training dummy that King had punted in his direction. The French Muay Thai expert is dressed in warmups.
Ryo: Whoa! What's the matter with you? You've been training non-stop since you heard that...what's his name again?
King: His name is Adon. (performs the Mirage Kick, knocking another dummy in the air, causing to Ryo to sidestep the flying object)
Ryo: I see by the fact you're trying to kill me with flying training dummies, you and him are not on good terms.
King stops her training for a moment and takes a break, sitting down against the wall. Ryo sits down beside her.
King: When I was a teenager, I was sent to Thailand to learn Muay Thai. I had to hide the fact that I was a woman otherwise they would not train me. I entered this one Muay Thai tournament and went through the competition.
Ryo: And Adon was also there.
King: (nods) Yeah. He was also there and he also progressed through the tournament. We fought for a while, and after a long battle, I won the tournament. Adon, however was a sore loser and he grabbed my shirt. I kicked him off, but he ripped my shirt, exposing my sports bra. I was immediately disqualified and Adon was declared the winner. To add insult to injury, Adon performed his Jaguar Assault on me, knocking me out of the ring.
Ryo: So you want some payback. I can understand that. I don't condone it, but I can understand.
The day of the tournament arrives. Sure enough, Adon is there, and has taken out Hwa Jai. Joe can't compete since his match with Ryu had ended with him with a dislocated shoulder.
Adon: No one can match the God of Muay Thai! Is there anyone out there who has the courage to face me?!
His question is answered as King, clad in her tuxedo (her CvS version) and hat, leaps into the ring.
King: Remember me? (removes hat and kicks it away)
Adon:...I remember you. I defeated you all those years ago.
King: If memory serves, you won only by default. I was the one who beat the crap out of you. I kicked your ass once, Adon...and I will do it again!
Adon does his 'power-up' intro.
Adon: In your dreams, woman!
King: My dreams are your nightmares.
The two go into their stances. After a long moment, they charge.
Emperor Ashtar
Ugh, Adon he's clearly more handsome.
King Nothing
This is a real tough one. Idk. Adon did take Sagat but he was later hospitalized and Sagat was already injured so this is still a tough one for me.Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Ugh, Adon he's clearly more handsome. Yeah, if Adon was in CVS2, Vega would throw a rose at him.
brainchild81
King wins IMO
Sado22
King wins of course. emperor, we all know you think King is the hottest KoF chick. Admit it!
~Sado
P-Geyser
I go with King
King Nothing
Originally posted by Sado22
King wins of course. emperor, we all know you think King is the hottest KoF chick. Admit it!
~Sado King, the hottest KOF chicks? She's awight, but IMO, the best looking KOF chick is Vanessa.
2D_MASTER
Originally posted by King Nothing
King, the hottest KOF chicks? She's awight, but IMO, the best looking KOF chick is Vanessa.
Yeah Vanessa is drawn pretty attracttive. But I say Angel is definately the best eye-candy in the KOF series.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Yeah Vanessa is drawn pretty attracttive. But I say Angel is definately the best eye-candy in the KOF series.
Nice try both of you but it's more like Blue Mary being the hottest chick with King coming in 2nd Vanessa 3rd and Mature 4th.
King Nothing
Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Yeah Vanessa is drawn pretty attracttive. But I say Angel is definately the best eye-candy in the KOF series. I forgot about Angel, she is only slightly hotter then Vanessa.
Emperor Ashtar
Angel & Mai, The End
King Nothing
Mai is cool, I am so sick of her look, too many people in games and anime have it. She looks hot but boring too.
Emperor Ashtar
Mai's Ol' skool, She invented the look. KOF girls aren't really anything special IMO.
2D_MASTER
No no, Angel for sure is the most sexy of the KOF girls. But I actually think Shermie looks good in her mini skirt, gotta love those legs, Thunder-Thighs.bwhahaha. Oh yeah Blue Mary is pretty hot, coz she is a tom-boy. king reminds me of Helen Degeneres, BLEH.
King Nothing
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Mai's Ol' skool, She invented the look. She's too old school.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
KOF girls aren't really anything special IMO. Your joking right? The KOF chicks are extra mui caliente (extra hot)!!
brainchild81
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Angel & Mai, The End Truth. According to Wiki, Angel's Bitties are Tigger
King Nothing
Yeah, Tig old Bitties!
Gigadigadigigadi.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by King Nothing
Your joking right? The KOF chicks are extra mui caliente (extra hot)!!
Sure they are, if you like short blonde's that look like 12 year olds.
I almost forgot about shermie, since her Angel and Mai are The End.
P-Geyser
Short blondes...12 year olds? Tell me you got to be joking.
Also Fawk those that think King is not HOT
Superboy Prime
So why exactly does Adon lose the fight?
Oh yeah King has boobs.
Yay.
brainchild81
Adon's tough for sure but King seems to be faster & she's got better range(& boobs). You think Adon wins? Originally posted by P-Geyser
Also Fawk those that think King is not HOT
Agreed.
Emp, what KOF chicks fit the short blond 12 yr old description?
Sado22
KoF has some really hot chicks.
Mai (as much as I hate her)
Mary
Vanessa
Angel
Diana
Shermie
Mature
Lein
Leona
Athena
Vice (in a weird tomboyish way)
King (emperor is shuddering right now)
Chae Lim
Yuri
the butterfly chick in KOFMI2
in fact KoF has the hottest chicks. Vanessa is the hottest.
~Sado
Major Snafu
Originally posted by Sado22
the butterfly chick in KOFMI2
Luise Mayrink. That's her name.
P-Geyser
Actually I think we should say SNK chicks instead of KOF chicks.
I say this because I will always think of Mary,Mai(as much as I hate her also), as FF chicks while King, Yuri are AOF chicks. The rest are KOF chicks since they were created in KOF.
shin_remy
i don't think King is hot:P
maybe she is hot, but i don't like here outfit sorry...
Sado22
NO ONE likes the outfit (except emperor
)
but you know a nice body when you see one. besides Vanessa's sprites are basically the same as King's.
~Sado
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Short blondes...12 year olds? Tell me you got to be joking.
Well, they are not blonde, but they are little girls in general:
Malin, Mignon, Marin, Athena, Yuri , etc. . .
Sado22
malin and mignon are the only ones who are actually little girls. not to mention that in Japan the legal age is 14 so they are adults "technically" speaking anyway.
Athena is 18 the last time i checked...and not exactly a little girl
oh and...this is surprising (and you were surprised last time i told you this too) but Yuri is 24!
~Sado
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Sado22
malin and mignon are the only ones who are actually little girls. not to mention that in Japan the legal age is 14 so they are adults "technically" speaking anyway.
Athena is 18 the last time i checked...and not exactly a little girl
oh and...this is surprising (and you were surprised last time i told you this too) but Yuri is 24!
~Sado
I'm well aware of the age of consent in japan, Sado. I was initially kidding when I said little girls since The girls of KOF tend to act well immature. Guess why they just aren't intresting to me, that's all.
Sado22
Ah...well you could always go after Louise Meyrink (thanks Major) or Kagura...they are pretty mature. Louise has wings too....that's gotta stand for something.
~Sado
brainchild81
Fu*k the wings mane! How she built? Hottest MI chick is Lien IIRCOriginally posted by Sado22
KoF has some really hot chicks.
Mai (as much as I hate her)
Mary
Vanessa
Angel
Diana
Shermie
Mature
Lein
Leona
Athena
Vice (in a weird tomboyish way)
King (emperor is shuddering right now)
Chae Lim
Yuri
the butterfly chick in KOFMI2
in fact KoF has the hottest chicks. Vanessa is the hottest.
~Sado Nah. Angel is 'cuz I fawkin' said so!!!!!! She's up there w/Chun Li & Elena & Morrigan & R.Mika & Mai & Maki.
Emperor Ashtar
Anyway, what has king done for her to even stand Adon?
King Nothing
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Sure they are, if you like short blonde's that look like 12 year olds.
I almost forgot about shermie, since her Angel and Mai are The End. Well KOF has alot of girls in it, more then they do grown women. I mean the KOF women are hot not the little girls, they're just cute.
Sorry people but King has her art were she looks hot, but over all, she's so so.
And I think Angel is like the hottest because of her outfit.
brainchild81
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Anyway, what has king done for her to even stand Adon? She forced the ripoff to do a super death blow on her to beat her & it didn't even kill the *****. She tuff as a mofo. What Adon do?
King Nothing
Ryo isn't on Sagat level though. Whom Adon sorta defeated.
Emperor Ashtar
Survive a Tiger Genocide from Sagat, and crushed a gaint Onk Baks/Buddah's face with one blow from his knee.
Originally posted by King Nothing
Ryo isn't on Sagat level though. Whom Adon sorta defeated.
Here we go again. . .
P-Geyser
Originally posted by brainchild81
She forced the ripoff to do a super death blow on her to beat her & it didn't even kill the *****. She tuff as a mofo. What Adon do?
Agreed King was giving Ryo bigtime problems for him to Execute his special.
Emperor Ashtar
So, King giving Ryo problem means she can beat Adon?
King Nothing
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Here we go again. . . Oops
brainchild81
Sagat was very unfocused he'd have put Adon in traction otherwise. I agree w/KN though Ryo ain't on Sagat's level, but that's besides the point. King is one badass *****
Emperor Ashtar
A Man-*****
Anyway, I don't how king is winning this.
King Nothing
Originally posted by brainchild81
Sagat was very unfocused he'd have put Adon in traction otherwise./B] I think Adon defeating an unfocused and injured Sagat is alot better then giving Ryo a hard time and still losing.
But this will be one hell of a battle for both fighters.
P-Geyser
No a badass HOT CHICK King would have become a Muay Thai Champion had it not been for her being exposed. Also I think King takes her art very seriously(more than Joe Higashi) I believe she can take out Adon.
King Nothing
Adon is powerful though, like bone crushing powerful.
Emperor Ashtar
It's sad that people place King over Joe, really sad.
Originally posted by King Nothing
Adon is powerful though, like bone crusher powerful. Bone Crusher 313
brainchild81
I hope you're not trying to make me defend Ryo mane. I just think she gotta be pretty tough if you can't tell you're fighting a chick when you fight her. What puts Adon over King mane?
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
It's sad that people place King over Joe, really sad.
May I ask why do you feel that is the case?
King Nothing
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Bone Crusher 313
That guy is huge, he looks like a damn baby with that white shirt he had on.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by brainchild81
What puts Adon over King mane?
Durability: Survived a Tiger Genocide from a guy who killed with his barehands (Go Hibiki)
Power: destroyed Buddah's face with one blow from his knee.
http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/arcade/a/sfa2ado.htm
I mean what has King done to even be mentioned in his presence?
Originally posted by P-Geyser
May I ask why do you feel that is the case?
Joe Hagashi is a Muay Thai champion, yet, people put him below king a ***** who dresses like a man and works at a bar?!
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Joe Hagashi is a Muay Thai champion, yet, people put him below king a ***** who dresses like a man and works at a bar?!
I have nothing against Joe. Dude was one of the pioneers of FF. While Joe is a Muay Thai champ, unfortunatley, King was not able to do that as I mentioned with her being a woman...though if she was allowed to compete, she would also be a Muay Thai champ.
Even though Joe can be downright serious when it comes to the art of Muay Thai, I think King is more serious.
Emperor Ashtar
What exactly puts King on par with joe, let alone adon?
P-Geyser
Well as you know Joe won the right to be the Muay Thai Champ, by deafeating Hwa Jai. King also made her way to the finals and looks like she was going to beat the champ. Though since she was discovered as a WOMAN...she was kicked out and disgraced. Had that not have been the case, she would have been the new Muay Thai Champ. That is what I believe puts her on par with Joe.
King was giving Ryo such a hard time and she was not losing rather hand and hand, until Ryo out of desperation executed his special ripping Kings shirt open. Though from what I hear, Adon did defeat Sagat but later was hospitalized. Ryo was going all out King, executed his special,King lost, but was still in tact...other than the shirt ripped apart. In my opinion that's what I think puts her on par with Adon. Though folks here say Ryo is way below Sagat....
Emperor Ashtar
Ryo is below sagat
King Nothing
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Ryo is below sagat And by a hefty amount might I add.
brainchild81
Ditto. This was a distracted Sagat though.
King Nothing
Adon won though. He didn't just give him a hard time.
Sado22
ryo isn't really too low. Ryo and Terry are almost as good as the other. even in card fighters Terry is rated as only ONE place higher than Ryo.
at any rate, Ryo has got lots of power, capable of smacking people several feet away with a basic koo-ken (KoFMI). You can only imagine what ichigekihissastu could do. on top of all that he has a projectile that is almost as big as the screen and fast as hell...and a rush move that moves like a blur (ryuku renbu).
PG, there is a part that I have a problem with:
-Storywise Ryo did the haoshikoken to defeat MR. karate...up till that point he hadn't mastered it at all.
-so either he tore her shirt with a weakass version of haohshikoken or by a kooken instead of haohshikoken. at any rate Ryo was FAR from unleashing his true potential...which storywise he only did with Mr. Karate.
-Also King was defeated utterly after the kooken/haohshikoken since she couldn't even cover herself up nor was she able to stand. Ryo not only helped her up but covered her with his gi shirt too.
~Chivalarous Sado-sama
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Sado22
PG, there is a part that I have a problem with:
-Storywise Ryo did the haoshikoken to defeat MR. karate...up till that point he hadn't mastered it at all.
-so either he tore her shirt with a weakass version of haohshikoken or by a kooken instead of haohshikoken. at any rate Ryo was FAR from unleashing his true potential...which storywise he only did with Mr. Karate.
-Also King was defeated utterly after the kooken/haohshikoken since she couldn't even cover herself up nor was she able to stand. Ryo not only helped her up but covered her with his gi shirt too.
Though it does state that Ryo thought he was fighting a man, and he was fighting with all his might. Also it was stated the match was close. I want to do some checking of my own on whether Ryo used a "weak" version of haohshikoken/kooken.
brainchild81
Good idea. I'd do the same if I wasn't so lazy.
Emperor Ashtar
King is really overrated, since she survived a haoshishoken Suckasski she's put on par with Adon, And Joe.
shin_remy
i don't like king
reason is that i don't like her looks and her moves
I like Joe
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
King is really overrated, since she survived a haoshishoken Suckasski she's put on par with Adon, And Joe.
She is overrated because of that?!...it's obvious you don't like her so I assume thats why you state she is overrated.
Originally posted by shin_remy
i don't like king
reason is that i don't like her looks and her moves
I like Joe
Well that post was very meaningless.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
She is overrated because of that?!...it's obvious you don't like her so I assume thats why you state she is overrated.
She's overrated because she hasn't lost one match, my feelings of her are irrelevant to my opinion on matches. I hate Ryo alot, Yet, I give him alot of matches so do not pull that hate card on me.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
She's overrated because she hasn't lost one match, my feelings of her are irrelevant to my opinion on matches. I hate Ryo alot, Yet, I give him alot of matches so do not pull that hate card on me.
Who the f**k is pulling the hate card. She hasn't lost ONE MATCH. Hello did she not lose to Ryo Sakazaki?!
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Who the f**k is pulling the hate card. She hasn't lost ONE MATCH. Hello did she not lose to Ryo Sakazaki?!
In game versus, I was talking about the f*cking canon. She's very overrated in games versus. Apparently she can beat: Joe Hagashi, Adon, and Chun li based on one real canon feat suriving a Hoashihshoken form Suckasski.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
In game versus, I was talking about the f*cking canon. She's very overrated in games versus. Apparently she can beat: Joe Hagashi, Adon, and Chun li based on one real canon feat suriving a Hoashihshoken form Suckasski.
F*cking canon or not, you think she is overrated because a few people think she can beat these three characters... and I already told you why I think she is on par with Joe and Adon. Alot of characters are overrated in game versus and no I am not naming any names.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
F*cking canon or not, you think she is overrated because a few people think she can beat these three characters...
So far: 2D-Master, Sado, You, Brainchild, people place her above: Blue mary, Adon, Chun-li, Joe Hagashi. . . I've never ever seen her in a versus where she loses.
All those people I named frequent this board, She's overrated.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
and I already told you why I think she is on par with Joe and Adon. Alot of characters are overrated in game versus and no I am not naming any names.
Alot characters are overrated including King, the only reason why your even defending her is because she happens to be one of your favorites. So, don't pull BS about alot of characters are overrated. Because you wouldn't say jack if someone said Hayabusa was overrated.
Also, what you stated about her in a muay thai tournament is strange considering King's timeline is old as hell. So, if that was AOF timeline no prob, but if it's some SNK ignoring Timeline shit, I'm not taking it.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
So far: 2D-Master, Sado, You, Brainchild, people place her above: Blue mary, Adon, Chun-li, Joe Hagashi. . . I've never ever seen her in a versus where she loses.
All those people I named frequent this board, She's overrated.
In case you HAVEN'T NOTICED I have stated that Blue Mary is MY FAVORITE SNK gal but I think King would defeat her. Lets see in the King vs Joe topic on which you created, King it was half and half on who win so that proves jack. Cant seem to find the Chun vs King topic since there is so many pages.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Alot characters are overrated including King, the only reason why your even defending her is because she happens to be one of your favorites. So, don't pull BS about alot of characters are overrated. Because you wouldn't say jack if someone said Hayabusa was overrated.
Who the f*ck are you telling not to pull B.S....yeah she is one of my favorites. If someone were to make a King vs Iori topic then I would say Iori(and I hate him by the way) In the Terry vs Dante thread...I stated that Dante wins(dont like Dante that much but Terry is my favorite character)so all that sh!t can go right out the window. Also what the hell does Hayabusa have to do with this sh!T?...I dont recall ever posting in his vs topic so please.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Also, what you stated about her in a muay thai tournament is strange considering King's timeline is old as hell. So, if that was AOF timeline no prob, but if it's some SNK ignoring Timeline shit, I'm not taking it.
I think we went through this already. Snk messed up on the timelines. Ryo and the AOF cast should be alot older than Terry and the FF crew. Though for KOF, SNK made everyone around the same age.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
In case you HAVEN'T NOTICED I have stated that Blue Mary is MY FAVORITE SNK gal but I think King would defeat her. Lets see in the King vs Joe topic on which you created, King it was half and half on who win so that proves jack. Cant seem to find the Chun vs King topic since there is so many pages.
How does that change the fact that she is overrated, because it's half and half?
Who were these people that claim it's half and half, considering that most of the people I named who favored king in matches frequent the thread. I said you favor king, I never said she is your favorite SNK gal. I could careless who's your favorite Snk gal is. Bottom line is she's overrated, and the only reason why your offering so much opposition against this opinion is becasue you like her, Cut the bullshit.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Who the f*ck are you telling not to pull B.S....
Who the f*ck else, obviously you. You've been spewing alot BS in this thread. Like accusing me of caling king overrated only because I don't like her.I call it how I see it, if you don't like not my problem
Originally posted by P-Geyser
s Iori topic then I would say Iori(and I hate him by the way) In the Terry vs Dante thread...I stated that Dante wins(dont like Dante that much but Terry is my favorite character)so all that sh!t can go right out the window. Also what the hell does Hayabusa have to do with this sh!T?...I dont recall ever posting in his vs topic so please.
Your completely missing the point, she never loses any versus, she beats alot or is put above many people that have way better feats than her. Therefore she's overrated, You can dig for all the threads you want you will never find one where king loses. Like I said, she's
olympian
This thread is worth alone for having the handfull of pll defending either King`s rep or Ryo`s rep, when normally they wouldnt.
Bravo.
King Nothing
King can't beat Chun Li.
Gave Ryo a hard time << Gave Urein a hard time.
shin_remy
Joe is overated too
i remember an old topic where he beated Sagat!!!!? WTF. i was the only one who said that Joe would not win from Sagat. And yet Joe loses from King...?
i can call more versus matches that doesn't make sence
Iori is overated like hell, and 90% of Tekken as well
but hee, i'm wrong again am I..
i'm not even bothering kind of this discusions anymore
it is useless!!!!
Emperor Ashtar
Tekken isn't overrated though... Joe beating Sagat, wow.
Here's King VS Chun Li: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=382131&highlight=king+sagat
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
How does that change the fact that she is overrated, because it's half and half?
What it means is, that some people think that she wins, and others think that the other character wins. You make it sound like EVERYBODY chooses her.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Who were these people that claim it's half and half, considering that most of the people I named who favored king in matches frequent the thread. I said you favor king, I never said she is your favorite SNK gal. I could careless who's your favorite Snk gal is. Bottom line is she's overrated, and the only reason why your offering so much opposition against this opinion is becasue you like her, Cut the bullshit.
Why dont you cut the bullshit. I said that the discussion of who would win was pretty much even. You make it sound like that everyone says King wins in every vs topic for christ sakes.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Who the f*ck else, obviously you. You've been spewing alot BS in this thread. Like accusing me of caling king overrated only because I don't like her.I call it how I see it, if you don't like not my problem
Like you have not been spewing your on B.S. Like the reason you claim King is overrated because she is put on par with Joe, Adon and Chun-LI. If you dont like thats not my f**king problem either.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Your completely missing the point, she never loses any versus, she beats alot or is put above many people that have way better feats than her. Therefore she's overrated, You can dig for all the threads you want you will never find one where king loses. Like I said, she's
First off I dont believe there have been polls in Kings vs topics. All the King threads she does not win as you so like to put it.
P-Geyser
Gee thats funny on the King vs Chun topic, it seems that King did not win since it was pretty even. I see one person said Chun because he likes her better.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
What it means is, that some people think that she wins, and others think that the other character wins. You make it sound like EVERYBODY chooses her.
I never even said that everyone chooses her, infact I clearly stated that a majority of people that frequent this board chooses her. What exactly has she canonically done besides survive a Hoashishoken? Her feats seem to be so limited, Yet, she has no problem being placed above clearly better fighters. Thus she's overrated. . .
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Why dont you cut the bullshit. I said that the discussion of who would win was pretty much even. You make it sound like that everyone says King wins in every vs topic for christ sakes.
She's one virtually every match she's been on against chracters with better feats. It's funny that your so against me claiming that king is overrated? Why isn't she overrated, because you favor her as a character?
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Like you have not been spewing your on B.S. Like the reason you claim King is overrated because she is put on par with Joe, Adon and Chun-LI. If you dont like thats not my f**king problem either.
It seems you don't know what bullshit is. . .
-Bullshit is when you make false accusations because you disagree with an opinion E.G.: Claiming I called king overrated because I don't like her
-Bullshit is Red Herrings E.G.: Bringing up other people who are overrated to try to make King look less guilty.
You've been spewing BS all over this thread and smering it all about ever since I stated an opinion. Remeber, you called me and Remy out. As soon as I retaliate you have a Titi attack.
This whole incident started because I critisized King, and you decided to flex your fingers to protect her.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
First off I dont believe there have been polls in Kings vs topics. All the King threads she does not win as you so like to put it.
Polls don't mean jack, for all we know someone could have voted by accident.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Gee thats funny on the King vs Chun topic, it seems that King did not win since it was pretty even. I see one person said Chun because he likes her better.
Did you read that topic, or just skim it?
Brainchild
id369
2D-Master
You
Argue'd for King
VS
D vampire
Darkstorm
Argue'd for chun-li
Note: I left out one member on kings side becuase he never used to or did frequent the board. 4(5 if you want to be technical) Vs 2
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I never even said that everyone chooses her, infact I clearly stated that a majority of people that frequent this board chooses her. What exactly has she canonically done besides survive a Hoashishoken? Her feats seem to be so limited, Yet, she has no problem being placed above clearly better fighters. Thus she's overrated. . .
In your opinion now tell me, since you seem to have such a problem with her being placed on par with Joe for example, what has Joe done? I like the guy as well..yeah he defeated Hwa Jai. I think King would also.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
She's one virtually every match she's been on against chracters with better feats. It's funny that your so against me claiming that king is overrated? Why isn't she overrated, because you favor her as a character?
The first part you mentioned can go to the question I asked above.
It's true I favor King as a character....though I could turn around and ask is King overrated because only you said so?
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
It seems you don't know what bullshit is. . .
-Bullshit is when you make false accusations because you disagree with an opinion E.G.: Claiming I called king overrated because I don't like her
-Bullshit is Red Herrings E.G.: Bringing up other people who are overrated to try to make King look less guilty.
You've been spewing BS all over this thread and smering it all about ever since I stated an opinion. Remeber, you called me and Remy out. As soon as I retaliate you have a Titi attack.
Ah that's really classic... oh man oh man(claps) such an authour you are. You spew just as much B.S. because you state how I accused you of saying that King was overrated due to the fact that you dont like her. When I said that you obiviosly dont like her so I assume that is the reason you said it. I should of just said you dont like King thats why you say she overrated....now that would be different.
By the way how the hell did I call Remy out? you make it sound like I screamed "Hey Remy blah blah blah!" when I just stated that his post was meaningless so please. Also how am I having a titi attack as you so like to claim. You stated your opinion, I asked why is that, and here we are... I would assume you said that is because I use the dreaded CUSS words... could be wrong.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Polls don't mean jack, for all we know someone could have voted by accident.
For ONCE I agree with you.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Did you read that topic, or just skim it?
Brainchild
id369
2D-Master
You
Argue'd for King
VS
D vampire
Darkstorm
Argue'd for chun-li
Note: I left out one member on kings side becuase he never used to or did frequent the board. 4(5 if you want to be technical) Vs 2
Hmm and I also noticed Chun got more of the votes
Chun Li 7 63.64%
King 4 36.36%
Basically that thread did not seem really serious especially the end.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
In your opinion now tell me, since you seem to have such a problem with her being placed on par with Joe for example, what has Joe done? I like the guy as well..yeah he defeated Hwa Jai. I think King would also.
That's nice that you think King could beat her, but she hasn't so how can you use that in an argument? Joe was with Terry in his crusade through out south town, and that alone gives him more credibality than her in versus. Not to mention he's a Muay Thai Champion while she's not even supposed to be in that timeline.
Not to mention she's been placed above: Chun-li and Adon. . .
Originally posted by P-Geyser
That's really classic... oh man oh man(claps) such an authour you are. You spew just as much B.S. because you state how I accused you of saying that King was overrated due to the fact that you dont like her. When I said that you obiviosly dont like her so I assume that is the reason you said it.
Same difference, It's obvious that you were implying my claim was related to my opinion of king.
Now you still haven't cleard this up, the reason why your going so hard to defend her is because you do like her. So, it still comes down to favoritism, just not on my part.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
By the way how the hell did I call Remy out? you make it sound like I screamed "Hey Remy blah blah blah!" when I just stated that his post was meaningless so please.
You wouldn't have said jack if he said something about say Tekken, but as long as it's someone you like that's being put on the spot you'll do whatever it takes to defend him. So, basically King is not overrated, because you like her.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Also how am I having a titi attack as you so like to claim. You stated your opinion, I asked why is that, and here we are... I would assume you said that is because I use the dreaded CUSS words... could be wrong.
Nope, it's because you make fakse accusations and made Red herrings in your argument.
Sado22
emp and PG. take it easy you guys, haven't seen that many f words lined up since Undisputed the movie.
actually between king and chunli i'm 50/50. they both are pretty tough.
~Sado
Emperor Ashtar
Yeah, I just got really upset because I saw the "F" word. . .
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's nice that you think King could beat her, but she hasn't so how can you use that in an argument? Joe was with Terry in his crusade through out south town, and that alone gives him more credibality than her in versus. Not to mention he's a Muay Thai Champion while she's not even supposed to be in that timeline.
Not to mention she's been placed above: Chun-li and Adon. . .
It's like ring around the roseys with you. Joe is a Muay Thai champ as WE AGREED, but King would have been the Muay Thai champ as well had she not been kicked out of the Muay Thai tournament. King also helped Ryo in his crusade, and no one has really placed her above Chun-Li and Adon just because some of us state we think she would win and is on par with them, you seem to have a problem with that. By the way Hwa Jai is a dude.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Same difference, It's obvious that you were implying my claim was related to my opinion of king.
Now you still haven't cleard this up, the reason why your going so hard to defend her is because you do like her. So, it still comes down to favoritism, just not on my part.
Though it's not as if I came right out and accused you on hand of saying you think she is overrated, because you don't like her. I dig Chun -Li but I think King wins in my opinion and I as I told you, I like Joe and I have no problem with Adon so why is that so hard to understand?! so all of that favoritism jazz is here say.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You wouldn't have said jack if he said something about say Tekken, but as long as it's someone you like that's being put on the spot you'll do whatever it takes to defend him. So, basically King is not overrated, because you like her.
I actually like Tekken characters, but I do not post in the Tekken vs threads and that whole statement is utter ridiculousness. So in other words if I defend a character I like, then it's obviously wrong. That last part is mind boggling, cause now if Emperar Ashtar says that King is overrated, then she must be.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Nope, it's because you make fakse accusations and made Red herrings in your argument.
Again total ridiculousness with your fake accusations, because I did not right out accuse YOU of stating she was overrated because you don't like her.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
It's like ring around the roseys with you. Joe is a Muay Thai champ as WE AGREED, but King would have been the Muay Thai champ as well had she not been kicked out of the Muay Thai tournament.
Lord, you can't say she would have become champion if she never fought the guy in the first place. That doesn't make any sense what so ever. Also, that event doesn't make any sense in the canon , unless that was an old king from AOF otherwise I'm not taking it.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
King also helped Ryo in his crusade, and no one has really placed her above Chun-Li and Adon just because some of us state we think she would win and is on par with them, you seem to have a problem with that. By the way Hwa Jai is a dude.
I just quoted four guys placing her as a victor over Chun li despite the fact she has no feats on par. King never fought Hwa Jai not to mention that it contradicts canon, So, why do you insist on bringing that up as an argument?
This is exactly why were going in circles. . .
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Though it's not as if I came right out and accused you on hand of saying you think she is overrated, because you don't like her.
Yeah, you did, you associated my opinion of kings fights to my opinion of her as a character right of the bat.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I dig Chun -Li but I think King wins in my opinion and I as I told you, I like Joe and I have no problem with Adon so why is that so hard to understand?! so all of that favoritism jazz is here say.
I never claimed you hated them, enough with the red herrings.
This all started because You called me out, don't get it twisted now.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I actually like Tekken characters, but I do not post in the Tekken vs threads and that whole statement is utter ridiculousness. So in other words if I defend a character I like, then it's obviously wrong. That last part is mind boggling, cause now if Emperar Ashtar says that King is overrated, then she must be.
Yo, stop putting words in my mouth, I said from the start that it was my opinion. I never argued it as a fact, and Regardless of if you like Tekken or not, the point is you would not have came posting in defense of a Tekken character like you did with King.
Which proves my point, King isn't overrated because you favor her.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Again total ridiculousness with your fake accusations, because I did not right out accuse YOU of stating she was overrated because you don't like her.
Yes, you did and I can quote you.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Sado22
emp and PG. take it easy you guys, haven't seen that many f words lined up since Undisputed the movie.
I dont like when people tell me not to pull B.S. it pisses me off.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I dont like when people tell me not to pull B.S. it pisses me off.
Like when you pull red herrings, adn false accusations, right?
This was your first response after I claimed King was overrated:
Originally posted by P-Geyser
She is overrated because of that?!...it's obvious you don't like her so I assume thats why you state she is overrated.
Yeah, who's the bullshitter now?
King Nothing
So people, what puts King over Chun Li anyway?
Please people, lets try and keep this cool.
olympian
I dont necessarily agree shes over Chun- Li. King has that hard time she gave Ryo, but from what i know (little anyway) Chun-li probably gave a hard time against certifiable treats as well.
Hum, now that im talking about it...who did she gave a hard time?
Emperor Ashtar
No one, she fought well against Gen and Urien . . . That's good enugh for me.
King Nothing
No one really knows if she actually loss to Urein. I went to Kikoken.com and it says she won. I don't really believe it but ya never know.
Emperor Ashtar
She didn't beat him down, she just impressed him.
King Nothing
Then that means he had a good fight and Urien is almost as good as Gill.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Lord, you can't say she would have become champion if she never fought the guy in the first place. That doesn't make any sense what so ever. Also, that event doesn't make any sense in the canon , unless that was an old king from AOF otherwise I'm not taking it.
I could care less if you take it or not. Same character whether you approve or not. The point I was trying to make is, that Kings skills as a Muay Thai fighter could put her on par with Joe since you already stated Joe is already a Muay Thai champ and I was stating she could hang because she would have been a champ as well due to being kicked out of the Muay Thai tournament.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I just quoted four guys placing her as a victor over Chun li despite the fact she has no feats on par. King never fought Hwa Jai not to mention that it contradicts canon, So, why do you insist on bringing that up as an argument?
This is exactly why were going in circles. . .
I was using Hwa Jai as one of Joe's feats to becoming the Champ. Since we were talking about why King should be put on par with Joe and I believe I mentioned that one time.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yeah, you did, you associated my opinion of kings fights to my opinion of her as a character right of the bat.
Though you never stated it was your opinion, you just came out and said she is overrated because some of the posters think she can deafeat Chun-Li, Adon and Joe. As I keep telling you time and time again, I did not call you out directly stating of her being overrated because of disliking her. I assumed thats why you said it not directly stating thats why you think that way.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I never claimed you hated them, enough with the red herrings.
This all started because You called me out, don't get it twisted now.
Dont get it twisted my A$$. I just asked how could she be overrated because YOU SAID SO. Though you claimed I choosed King over the other characters, because I play favortism and like her better which is utter nonsense.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yo, stop putting words in my mouth, I said from the start that it was my opinion. I never argued it as a fact, and Regardless of if you like Tekken or not, the point is you would not have came posting in defense of a Tekken character like you did with King.
Which proves my point, King isn't overrated because you favor her.
Thats funny I have never seen you state, that it was YOUR OPINION. If you did please do show me, and all of this can cease. I stated that it was MY OPINION on King's vs matches. Though you somehow make it seem she is overrated as "actual fact". I dont think she is overrated, though I do not go on blasting she is not as you seem to say that she is. Even I said Iori is overrated by that's my opinion.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Yes, you did and I can quote you.
I will make it easy for you.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
She is overrated because of that?!...it's obvious you don't like her so I assume thats why you state she is overrated.
I could of said "She is overrated because of that?!...you dont like her so that's the reason why you state she is overrated. That would have been "calling you out directly"
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I could care less if you take it or not. Same character whether you approve or not.
Different timeline, therefore it isn't canon.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
The point I was trying to make is, that Kings skills as a Muay Thai fighter could put her on par with Joe since you already stated Joe is already a Muay Thai champ and I was stating she could hang because she would have been a champ as well due to being kicked out of the Muay Thai tournament.
How do you know she wouldn't lose if she never even fought the guy, who on God's green earth did you deduce that ?
Unless, your a psychic, I don't even see how you can draw a conclusion soley on conjecture. She never fought him, Yet, your using a hypothetical fight as evidence of King being on par with Joe Hagashi?!
Do you realise how non-sensicle that is?
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Though you never stated it was your opinion, you just came out and said she is overrated because some of the posters think she can deafeat Chun-Li, Adon and Joe. As I keep telling you time and time again, I did not call you out directly stating of her being overrated because of disliking her. I assumed thats why you said it not directly stating thats why you think that way.
And, I keep repeating that you did. The implications are the same regardless of how you word it. Wether you say: "King is only overrated because I dislike her" or " King is overrated, I'm assuming you dislike her"
The implications are the same I.E.:My opinion of king as a chracter is tied to my opinion to her rank in versus. That claim is BS, and I'm calling you on it.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Dont get it twisted my A$$. I just asked how could she be overrated because YOU SAID SO. Though you claimed I choosed King over the other characters, because I play favortism and like her better which is utter nonsense.
Nonsense my asss , it's the cold blooded truth. Youn would have not posted shit if I said Chun-li was overrated, not to mention that accusation you made about me not liking King and her ranking. Plus all those "Red Herrings" you pull. . .
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Thats funny I have never seen you state, that it was YOUR OPINION. If you did please do show me, and all of this can cease. I stated that it was MY OPINION on King's vs matches. Though you somehow make it seem she is overrated as "actual fact". I dont think she is overrated, though I do not go on blasting she is not as you seem to say that she is. Even I said Iori is overrated by that's my opinion.
ORLY?
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
She's overrated because she hasn't lost one match, my feelings of her are irrelevant to my opinion on matches.
If that's not implying an opinion than your worst than I thought.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Like when you pull red herrings, adn false accusations, right?
Yeah, who's the bullshitter now?
Look I dont give a f**k with what you say. You keep claiming I called you OUT when I asked why is she overrated! I used the f -word first, but then you start with your dont pull B.S. garbage on me and making accusations of your own stating I choose King and favor her over other characters thats why I come to defense garbage when that is not the f**king case!
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I could of said "She is overrated because of that?!...you dont like her so that's the reason why you state she is overrated. That would have been "calling you out directly"
Regrdless, the implications are the same no matter how it's worded. Growm some balls if your going to call me out. Because it's obvious what you were getting at when you posted that.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Look I dont give a f**k with what you say.
If you didn't give a shit, you would not respond.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
You keep claiming I called you OUT when I asked why is she overrated!
You did, but it seems you lack the gonads to admitt it.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I used the f -word first, but then you start with your dont pull B.S. garbage on me and making accusations of your own stating I choose King and favor her over other characters thats why I come to defense garbage when that is not the f**king case!
B.S., like the Red Herrings you pulled or the fact your trying to make it seem that you didn't call me out.
The implications behind that post is obvious, you just keep ignoring it though.
Sado22
King and Chunli is probably the best shemale..err...female fight in the videogame world. both are known for their kicks, both have fought on par with some of the toughest guys of their series. it really would be a good fight.
Urien and Chunli wasn't a fight to the finish. Urien was not even fighting her seriously. he was just testing her. much like how Akuma was testing Ryu. if he were serious, he would have wiped the floor with her. not saying its not impressive though. Though I would say that King, under similar circumstances, would do the same.
King and Chunli is a DRAW as far as I go.
~Sado
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Regrdless, the implications are the same no matter how it's worded. Growm some balls if your going to call me out. Because it's obvious what you were getting at when you posted that.
You mean Grown not Growm so I called YOU OUT because I asked you why is she overrated? so now everyone beware when asking Emperor Ashatar something or assume he said something, because you are calling him out.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
If you didn't give a shit, you would not respond.
I give you that one UNFORTUNATELY.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
You did, but it seems you lack the gonads to admitt it.
Lack Gonads ....yeah pretty clever one there Ashtar puts you right at the top.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
B.S., like the Red Herrings you pulled or the fact your trying to make it seem that you didn't call me out.
The implications behind that post is obvious, you just keep ignoring it though.
Ignoring what?! I should just come out and say "ok Emperar Ashtar you said King is Overrated....now I am calling you out"
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
If that's not implying an opinion than your worst than I thought.
You mean worse. Okay Ashtar I give you that just skimmed past it. Though when you first stated about King being overrated, you never mentioned it was your opinion till I asked you.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Sado22
King and Chunli is probably the best shemale..err...female fight in the videogame world. both are known for their kicks, both have fought on par with some of the toughest guys of their series. it really would be a good fight.
Urien and Chunli wasn't a fight to the finish. Urien was not even fighting her seriously. he was just testing her. much like how Akuma was testing Ryu. if he were serious, he would have wiped the floor with her. not saying its not impressive though. Though I would say that King, under similar circumstances, would do the same.
King and Chunli is a DRAW as far as I go.
~Sado
You say it's a draw sado. Though special powers aside and it came down to just martial arts do you still think it will be a draw?
King Nothing
Urien wasn't completely toying with her. Urien thought she was good, that's why she gave the child back.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
so I called YOU OUT because I asked you why is she overrated? so now everyone beware when asking Emperor Ashatar something or assume he said something, because you are calling him out.
Another Red Herring on your part, and I already told you why. You keep on side stepping it and putting words in my mouth. You made a false accusation, therefore you called me out.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Ignoring what?! I should just come out and say "ok Emperar Ashtar you said King is Overrated....now I am calling you out"
Not even, it's not the fact that you disagree'd with me. It's the implication behind what you said that's hinting it.
Originally posted by P-Geyser
Though when you first stated about King being overrated, you never mentioned it was your opinion till I asked you.
It was implyed, I think I'm just going to start underlining and highlighting what I post because it seems it always flies over people's heads.
Emperor Ashtar
Bottomline is P Geyser you falsely accused me, wether indirectly or not of something that was completely false. I retaliated by claiming your playing favoritism, I'm most likely wrong on that part. Though, it doesn't change the overall point. You were wrong in your accusation, just like I'm most likely wrong with my accusation. When you decide to admitt it, I'll retract my statement. The only reason why this has been blowin outta proportions is because you refused to admitt that you were wrong. Sure, I'm wrong as well I'll admitt that, But so are you.
Bottomline is you started this, and you can end it just as easily.
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Another Red Herring on your part, and I already told you why. You keep on side stepping it and putting words in my mouth. You made a false accusation, therefore you called me out.
I am not trying to put words into your mouth dude. Enough with the Red Herring jazz. I was not trying to call you out if it seemed that way believe me. It's also a false accusation stating King is not overrated because I say so. I am not trying to force my opinion on anyone. You think she is overrated for those facts...fine.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
It was implyed, I think I'm just going to start underlining and highlighting what I post because it seems it always flies over people's heads.
Good idea.
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by P-Geyser
I am not trying to put words into your mouth dude. Enough with the Red Herring jazz. I was not trying to call you out if it seemed that way believe me. It's also a false accusation stating King is not overrated because I say so. I am not trying to force my opinion on anyone. You think she is overrated for those facts...fine.
Very well then, even if the implications say otherwise. . . I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and retract my statements with the exception of my opinion on kings status. As far as I'm concerend she's overrated. . .
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Bottomline is P Geyser you falsely accused me, wether indirectly or not of something that was completely false. I retaliated by claiming your playing favoritism, I'm most likely wrong on that part. Though, it doesn't change the overall point. You were wrong in your accusation, just like I'm most likely wrong with my accusation. When you decide to admitt it, I'll retract my statement. The only reason why this has been blowin outta proportions is because you refused to admitt that you were wrong. Sure, I'm wrong as well I'll admitt that, But so are you.
Bottomline is you started this, and you can end it just as easily.
Cool I will agree to that
Emperor Ashtar
Ugh, I can't believe I spent several pages arguing about King :: Shudder::
I feel nasty.
P-Geyser
I feel FINE
Sado22
well good thing "PG and Emp war" is over. here is to LOVE AND PEACE.
~Sado
Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Sado22
well good thing "PG and Emp war" is over. here is to LOVE AND PEACE.
~Sado
Shall we celebrate?
P-Geyser
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Shall we celebrate?
Hell yeah!
Emperor Ashtar
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