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I'm only asking about Marvel because the answer is pretty clear in DC: Superman.

Whose death in Marvel (not including Captain America) would have the most far-reaching and long-lasting repercussions?

interesting it was probly capt actually lol

Originally posted by capt it up
interesting it was probly capt actually lol

I edited to not include Captain America in this question.

Black Goliath

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Black Goliath

Is aleady dead and no one cared.

I'm gonna go with a wild card. Dr. Doom, dying as a hero, saving the world. Now that would be impactful.

Originally posted by masterbruce
I edited to not include Captain America in this question.
hmm not sure.

depends such as if there was a group going around killing people and hero's if some one like woverine died that would be a huge impact. He known for being tough to take down due to the healing factor and the lifes he has lived. That would likly scare a lot of hero's and people. It also impact the mutant community and many mutants that hold and did hold government jobs sich as nick fury and mrs marvel.

Originally posted by capt it up
hmm not sure.

depends such as if there was a group going around killing people and hero's if some one like woverine died that would be a huge impact. He known for being tough to take down due to the healing factor and the lifes he has lived. That would likly scare a lot of hero's and people. It also impact the mutant community and many mutants that hold and did hold government jobs sich as nick fury and mrs marvel. Already died... multiple times.
Plot device won't allow it.

Anyway... Sentry dying right now, would probably leave a lot of people in shock.

The Living Tribunal

Stan Lee.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Already died... multiple times.
Plot device won't allow it.

Anyway... Sentry dying right now, would probably leave a lot of people in shock.
I ment for good...........come one now you new what I ment........like I would not know logan can keep comming back.............
by the way it not a plot device..........


see sentry would not effect the world that much though a lot of the ehro don't like him any ways


iron mans death would be huge though

Jubilee being mutilated and killed on live television....by Wolverine

Originally posted by masterbruce
I'm only asking about Marvel because the answer is pretty clear in DC: Superman.

Whose death in Marvel (not including Captain America) would have the most far-reaching and long-lasting repercussions?

Wolverine. ermmnone

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Jubilee being mutilated and killed on live television....by Wolverine Sabertooth pulling another silver fox on Jubilee.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Sabertooth pulling another silver fox on Jubilee.

That's just wrong, how old is she 18/19?(Not that being older makes it any more excusable or anything)

Originally posted by capt it up
I ment for good...........come one now you new what I ment........like I would not know logan can keep comming back.............
by the way it not a plot device..........


see sentry would not effect the world that much though a lot of the ehro don't like him any ways


iron mans death would be huge though I know what you meant, but it says death, not for good.
Haha joke!

Really? How is it not a plot device?

How would Iron Man's death be bigger than Jes... Sentry in Marvel?

Superman

Logan or Pete. They'd drop roughly half their sales either way, and would go bankrupt.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Anyway... Sentry dying right now, would probably leave a lot of people in shock.

And lo, a great sound was heard from the masses. A thunderous roar as though the horn of Joshua was resounded. And these words were heard to reverberate:


"GOOD RIDDANCE!!!! "

Anyways, Apocalypse could go permanently die somewhere, and no one would give a damn.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Anyways, Apocalypse could go permanently die somewhere, and no one would give a damn.

Of course.

Originally posted by masterbruce


Whose death in Marvel (not including Captain America) would have the most far-reaching and long-lasting repercussions?


Uhh....Captain America? goof



Seriously, anyone who dies will eventually come back. No Impact whatsoever...they'll just continue.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Seriously, anyone who dies will eventually come back. No Impact whatsoever...they'll just continue.

But comic characters (even the smart ones) don't catch on to that. So writers would have to change the character's actions to show how each had been impacted by the death.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But comic characters (even the smart ones) don't catch on to that. So writers would have to change the character's actions to show how each had been impacted by the death.

Except Deadpool. He makes repeated reference to it.

no one, for once they die, they talk to god about a condo, but return to 616 in a week

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
Wolverine. ermmnone
I agree,.. who else would apear on every Marvel cover?

To answer the thread:

Prof. X
Ironman
Spider-Man
Wolverine
Magneto
The Thing/Mr. Fantastic

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
To answer the thread:

Prof. X
Ironman
Spider-Man
Wolverine
Magneto
The Thing/Mr. Fantastic

Thing?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
To answer the thread:

Prof. X
Ironman
Spider-Man
Wolverine
Magneto
The Thing/Mr. Fantastic

I can't see Wolvie or Ben's death having an incredibly far reaching effect. The others make sense though.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Thing? Yeah. Who on Marvel Earth doesn't love the Thing?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I can't see Wolvie or Ben's death having an incredibly far reaching effect. The others make sense though. As for Wolvie, I can, because Marvel would have every issue of every comic they produce center on his death until they can pull their reincarnation thing and have him come back as a black guy so they don't have to make him lose to Storm and her pimp.

Spiderman, probably.

Spiderman.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Yeah. Who on Marvel Earth doesn't love the Thing?

Hulk?

Honestly after how much the three movies have made, despite how badly the third one sucked. Most would be in shock to hear, Spider-Man died...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I know what you meant, but it says death, not for good.
Haha joke!

Really? How is it not a plot device?

How would Iron Man's death be bigger than Jes... Sentry in Marvel?
becuase it does not further the plot........and it can't be a power........



well iron man a lot more import to the marvel world then sentry..........

Spiderman

WOLVERINE
BECAUSE HE NEVER DIES

see the problem with spiderman, dd, and capt is your ****ed. They won't kill the villains so there nothign stoping them from comming back again and again.

other then cap..spiderman.

Galactus... again.

Peter Parker

Aunt May.

Definitely Spiderman. I mean in the real world it would be such a blow to marvel. As for the comics it could be tremendous if they did it in aways where he sacrificed himself totally for the greatest good, in front of the whole world and asked nothing in return.

I'd love to see the look on Jonah's face if that happened.

Originally posted by Entity
Definitely Spiderman. I mean in the real world it would be such a blow to marvel. As for the comics it could be tremendous if they did it in aways where he sacrificed himself totally for the greatest good, in front of the whole world and asked nothing in return.

I'd love to see the look on Jonah's face if that happened. I read in an interview that Jonah and Peter are finally going to have a heart-heart soon

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I read in an interview that Jonah and Peter are finally going to have a heart-heart soon This I wanna see!
I been waiting for years to see Jonah findout about Peter and have a real coversation with him about it.

I know he probably won't do it but, I wanna see Pete tell Jonah off in like 12 different languages.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
I read in an interview that Jonah and Peter are finally going to have a heart-heart soon

Last time he said that was going to happen he just decided to shit all over Spidey and the NewAvengers.

In reality? Spider-Man

In the comics? Hm...I would've said Cap, but it doesn't seem to be having a big enough response. I guess logically it would be someone like The Living Tribunal, Galactus, or TOAA...but that's not a fun answer, lol. Stark would be a good choice. Nick Fury might be in the running. Spider-Man might even be for this one too, considering everyone knows he's a young man now.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Yeah. Who on Marvel Earth doesn't love the Thing?

Well, he did die

But, he came back about 2 issues later

Oh course, you have to give Waid credit for cutting all the bullsh*t with his resurrection and just had the FF meet god, who then basically said, "The Thing's too cool to die." and *BOOM* he's back

Silver Surfer.

Black Panther... now that I think of it...
Marvel would have molotov cocktails thrown through their windows, if BP went down...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Last time he said that was going to happen he just decided to shit all over Spidey and the NewAvengers.

That was before he knew that Peter and Spider-Man were one in the same.

Since Spidey revealed his id he's been planning to sue Spidey for fraud .

Originally posted by marvelprince
That was before he knew that Peter and Spider-Man were one in the same.

Since Spidey revealed his id he's been planning to sue Spidey for fraud . Ya see now here's my thing with that.
I mean yea I can see where they'd have a case but they DID pay for pictures of Spiderman and the IS EXACTLY what Peter gave them. I really don't thing there was any kind of clause specifying that he couldn't take pictures of Spiderman if he in fact was Spiderman.

Getting paid for taking pictures of yourself. Talk about a guarenteed job...

I'm guessing Spidey or the Hulk

Financially, logan or spidey... if any of them died, sales would plummet dramatically...

in terms of the characters in the universe... i dunno... spidey would be one, as i think entity said, doing the whole hero thing and making j.j take everything back...

stark... someone takes down the head of shield, shit hits the fan, big time...

Spider-man.

Duh.

Seriously, it's obviously Captain America, he's the greatest icon in 616

Spiderman easily.

Second woud be the Hulk or Cap.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Spiderman easily.

Second woud be the Hulk or Cap. But do you all mean in the real world financially or in Marvel's reaction in the comics?

Or both?

Would anyone in the MU really care if Hulk died?

I mean besides, Jen and some of his friends, nobody really likes him or anything

Originally posted by Entity
But do you all mean in the real world financially or in Marvel's reaction in the comics?

Or both?

Both. Moreso in the real world though.

Spiderman is as close to Superman and Batman in terms of iconic characters. Hes Marvels "Man" imo.

In the comic world, hes one of the most recognized(next to Captain America) and probably has the biggest fan base (in the comic world). Spiderman has the most team-ups in Marvel history.

Gont get me wrong. Its always an honor to team with Cap because of his leadership and experience, but it almost seems as if everyone HAS to have Spidey on their team at least once.

Edit: When i mentioned Hulk i was mainly talking about in the real world sense. Hulk has few close friends in Marvel and same goes for Banner. Marvel as a company wouldnt be the same without him though.

Just my opinions.

Superman.

It's comics. They can make any random death seem like the most important thing ever. How many people knew who Sue Dibny was before Identity Crisis? Not too many I'm sure.

Cable dying would be bad.

providence ripe for the picking...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Superman. You know actually I agree with this and not just cause I hate Clark.

Seriously if either Superman or Batman ever died, which we all know will never REALLY happen, DC would suffer a huge hit and Marvel would skyrocket. IMO

Originally posted by Validus
It's comics. They can make any random death seem like the most important thing ever. How many people knew who Sue Dibny was before Identity Crisis? Not too many I'm sure.

I still have no idea who she is!

I'd say that they should never kill off.... Captai.....oh wait, well they should never kill off Jean Gre....Oh wait, well they should never kill off Aunt Ma...oh wait, well they should never kill off uncle Be, oh wait well they should never kill off........

umm.......



uuhhhhhhhh...........




uuuhhhhh..........





Thor?

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Anyways, Apocalypse could go permanently die somewhere, and no one would give a damn.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/6217-46394-1-mutant-x_400.jpg

lookaround

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/6217-46394-1-mutant-x_400.jpg

lookaround In an alternate reality...
Plus, they don't even care... :lolzer:

Oh no,he killed Apocalypse.

well,that certainly seems to show them wracked with grief...

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
In an alternate reality...
Plus, they don't even care... :lolzer:

I know...


I just find it pretty funny that there is a comic book cover with someone concerned that Apocalypse is dead....

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
I know...


I just find it pretty funny that there is a comic book cover with someone concerned that Apocalypse is dead.... That's because he didn't die in the book...

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
That's because he didn't die in the book...

...Xavier's mindblasts didn't do the trick?

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
...Xavier's mindblasts didn't do the trick? No.
It was just hurting him when he was erecting a shield, in that comic anyway...

And then in the next, well... because I can...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/mux22p18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/mux22p19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/mux22p20.jpg

I think I made Trickster wet his pants.

However...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/mux22p21.jpg

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
No.
It was just hurting him when he was erecting a shield, in that comic anyway...

And then in the next, well... because I can...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/mux22p18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/mux22p19.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/mux22p20.jpg

I think I made Trickster wet his pants.

However...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/mux22p21.jpg

Apocalypse helped defeat Galactus and his heralds? 131

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/6217-46394-1-mutant-x_400.jpg

lookaround Puh-leeze.

She's all like "Quick! Try to look sexy!", he's all like "Whoa! I think you look sexy!", and Magneto's like "Stupid children, my libido died when I was 15".

And nobody actually gives a damn about Apoc.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
And nobody actually gives a damn about Apoc.

Duh.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
And nobody actually gives a damn about Apoc. Actually, that's true.
When Apoc actually dies later, nobody even says he died, or even cared... even issues later, nothing was said.

.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Duh. http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/apochelp2.jpg

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/apochelp2.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/helpapoc2.png

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/helpapoc2.png
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/apocstinks.jpg

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Logan or Pete. They'd drop roughly half their sales either way, and would go bankrupt.

yup...

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Wolverine being mutilated and killed on live television....by Jubilee

fixed.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/apocstinks.jpg

Wow.


Ancient history....


Apocalypse > table

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocrushtable.png

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Wow.


Ancient history....


Apocalypse > table

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apocrushtable.png Ya, but that's not oak.
Obviously cheap wood.

Plus...
http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1185211631-1176058498482.jpg

Marvel doesnt have a key stone character like superman. Any major hero would make as much impact as another. By major I mean the top 5 in popularity

-Wolverine decides someone has to die for the greater good no matter what.

-Spiderman is the only hero around and decides the has to stop him from killing no matter what.

-They fight the most epic battle in Marvel history ending with their almost simultaneous deaths.

That death would impact Marvel far beyond anything else!
Anyone think they can top it?

Originally posted by Entity
-Wolverine decides someone has to die for the greater good no matter what.

-Spiderman is the only hero around and decides the has to stop him from killing no matter what.

-They fight the most epic battle in Marvel history ending with their almost simultaneous deaths.

That death would impact Marvel far beyond anything else!
Anyone think they can top it?

Eternity.

Originally posted by Entity
-Wolverine decides someone has to die for the greater good no matter what.

-Spiderman is the only hero around and decides the has to stop him from killing no matter what.

-They fight the most epic battle in Marvel history ending with their almost simultaneous deaths.

That death would impact Marvel far beyond anything else!
Anyone think they can top it? They'd lose 90% of their cast if those two died... each one being 45% of their cast.

Originally posted by SpookySmurph
And nobody actually gives a damn about Apoc.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/HAL10WEEN/apociscareddying.png

smurfdur

If someone went back in time and killed Wolverine's mother before he was born... then Peter Park would have never been born.


True story by the way.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
If someone went back in time and killed Wolverine's mother before he was born... then Peter Park would have never been born.


True story by the way.

Peter Park would have never been born?

Thank goodness Peter Parker would still be alive, to kick the yet to be conceived Logan's butt

Originally posted by willRules
Peter Park would have never been born?



yes Logan saved spidermans parents lives before if not mistaken.