Love will heal the world

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Deano
Heres a bit from david ickes book. very good read

This book has been written with honesty, without fear, and in the desire to
uncover the cause of the ills of this planet and the means through which we can heal them. Not every last fact will be 100% accurate, nor every assumption, because we are dealing with people and organisations who wish that such information remains hidden. Dispersing the smokescreens is a life's work. I come from the direction of no religious, racial, or political dogma. I only wish to challenge the imposition of belief systems by those who use violence, fear, guilt, and the suppression of information. I also desire for love to flood this planet and for all humanity to access its full and infinite potential. If anyone decides to take parts of this book out of context and pronounce it 'racist', they will be making a statement about their own state of being, not mine. I wouldn't know how to be racist if my life depended upon it. I seek freedom for myself, for humanity, and for this planet and all her lifeforms.n If there are those who believe, or claim to believe, otherwise, that is their right. But I know what is in my heart and that is good enough for me. Such people will benefit, too, from remembering that their children and grandchildren, of whatever colour,
culture, or background, will have to live in the world we leave them. Would they prefer us to leave them freedom or the New World Order? To be accused of racism when you have love and freedom in your heart can be frustrating, but no scale of criticism will stop me. It is time for humanity to stop running away. Time to let go of fear.

You will have noted, I'm sure, how the first section of the book is far longer than the second. This is not an imbalance. It is symbolic of how simple the answers are to all that I have outlined in this book. The principles within these last few chapters contain all that we need to change the reality of this world. We need to love, respect, and forgive ourselves and, through that, love, respect and forgive everyone else. One will come with the other. It begins with self. I don't have to set out new economic and political structures and tell people how they must live to create a
better society. Who the hell am I to tell someone else what they should do, anyway?

I know what is right for me, not you. From the transformation of mind which love, respect, and forgiveness of self will trigger, all these other answers will naturally evolve. We have the tyrannical structures of today because that is the reality the collective mind has created by its attitude to itself. When we change that attitude, we change the world. The pyramid becomes a circle. The human race, in general, doesn't like itself, let alone love itself. That is reflected in the physical reality. when love abounds within us, love will wrap its arms around the planet and it is on that
foundation that all else will follow.


By love, I mean a much greater love than the emotional attachment and possession that so much 'love' on Earth has become. I don't mean "I love you if I fancy you, darling". Nor "I love you if what you do is acceptable to me, or if you conform to my idea of someone who deserves to be loved". I mean "I love you, whatever you do

It is the love we have for our children. We don't always agree with what they do and say, but we love them just the same. If we can see each other in that light, the ills of this planet will fade away. With this unconditional love for self and each other, we would not produce economic arguments for why homeless people must sleep in the streets.

The economic system would become subordinate to love and reflect that love. The idea that we would allow one person to be without adequate shelter would be unthinkable. We would stop charging interest on money, remove the debt so far accumulated, and spend what was necessary, interest free, to build enough good quality homes for people to live in. The love in our hearts would accept nothing less. We would dismantle the economic tyranny and encourage communities to take back the power over their lives, providing what is necessary for the benefit of people, not some Global Elite.

Love would eliminate the pain and suffering we impose on the animal kingdom. We would recognise that the privileged minority on this planet cannot, with love, go on living off the backs of the Third World and then ease their conscience by putting a few pounds in a charity tin here and there. Love would insist that we withdraw from such economic dictatorship and allow those oppressed billions to
live their lives for the benefit of themselves and not the multinational corporations.

There would be no more CIA fascist coups to thwart elected governments determined to serve the needs of the people when love abounds in the collective human heart. Love would cease to cooperate with the present structures of global power and in doing so, it would show just how little power they really have.

They only exist because we created them and because we continue to cooperate and bow to their will. The real power in a pyramid lies at the base, not the top. Nothing survives if it is not founded on love and the present structures of control will not survive. The governments we select in a world of love would reflect that desire to serve, to set free, and not impose. How many people today vote with love in their hearts?

People vote, overwhelmingly, for what they believe is best, materially, for them in the short-term. That is the reality they create - governments which serve themselves, short-term self-interest, and not the interests of others. We get what we vote for, because we get what we are feeling in our hearts when we, collectively, decide how to vote.

If the human race voted out of love, it would attract and elect such people into government. It is no good hurling all the blame at politicians for what is happening in the world. Politicians can only get elected by telling people what they have been programmed to want to hear. What people want to hear is what is in it, materially, for them. The kind of politicians we elect are an exact reflection of the collective attitudes which voted for them. When the collective human mind changes, so will the kind of politician we elect. Try getting elected on a policy of ending the Western dictatorship of the Third World which would affect the incomes and imports of the industrialised countries. No chance. Only with love in the collective heart will that be possible. Power to the people with the power of love. Love for self will transform our lives, not least in the way we heal ourselves and
others. Today, the medical services are controlled by the multinational drug companies. Sixty per cent of the US drug industry is owned by the Rockefellers alone. As a result, what claims to be state-of-the-art 'medicine' offers the scalpel or the drug in response to almost every ill. Both are motivated, at their controlling levels, by profit, not people. Wealth and not health.

The infinite knowledge of healing in the world which understands how imbalances in our eternal selves create physical dis-ease is kept out of 'official' medicine. The body-as-machine approach of Darwin and others is still the one taught in medical schools and hospitals. It has
become so farcical, that a hospital doctor I once met treats the nurses with
homeopathy, but cannot treat his patients in that way, except secretly, because the wrath of the official drug-company-controlled medical establishment would be brought down upon him. Millions die of cancer while many cures are suppressed. If you can't sell it at a vast profit under contract to a drug company, every effort is made to destroy methods of healing that would remove the so called "incurable" diseases of today. There are no incurable diseases. Every one is caused by an energy
imbalance - an imbalance that can be returned to harmony and, in doing so, the body returned to health. This is happening every day outside the medical establishment.

Love for self will insist on taking back power over our own bodies. The drug companies dominate because the human race has, largely, handed over control of the body to doctors and pharmacists. It is an expression, yet again, of the way humans look outside themselves for answers. We look outside for confirmation that we are ok; for someone else to blame when something goes wrong; and for the answers to our discomfort when our body is ill. The answers for all three are inside us, in our view of ourselves. Self-hatred and frustration leads to cancer and heart disease, and every other ill can be linked to a mental, emotional, or spiritual
imbalance, all of which can be corrected. I can thoroughly recommend a book called You Can Heal Your Life by Louise Hay1 for more detail about this. As we begin to love ourselves and let go of the fears, guilts, and resentments accumulated over the years and the aeons of time, disease in the world will plummet. The cause of it will have diminished. We will see the illness that does occur as a sign of something a miss inside us. We will then address that, and think ourselves well again.

Emperor Ashtar
Love is Bullshit

Deano
i disagree. if there is no love then what is there?

lord xyz
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Love is Bullshit I agree.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Deano
i disagree. if there is no love then what is there? I should have been more specific, I mean't mordern perception of love is complete bullshit.People need knowledge, not love.

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Love is Bullshit

Basically.

Deano
so you dont love your parents or your children?

lord xyz
Originally posted by Deano
so you dont love your parents or your children? I don't love anyone. Don't know what it feels like.

J-Beowulf
I didn't say that.

Saying "love cures everything" is just like blaming karma for things that happen to people; the only people who say it are people who can't cope. It's very easy to go around saying "if only everyone loved each other," but as much as people say it, it isn't going to happen, so what's the point? I find that people who say that love would solve all our problems have no clue of any ways to actually solve problems, and in turn rest their insecurity on the belief that love cures every wound. They feel better saying it, it makes one feel like a philosopher, like they know all the answers, when actually, they know very little.

Deano
bullshit lord xyz. you hold love for your parents surely, and its strong. what you have to realise is that we must show a similar love to all beings, because they are us.

beowulf, the message is that we have become disconnected from who we really are.

would you wish harm upon your family or friends? whats that feeling like when you hear a news story of some old age pensioner who has got raped, or of a child thats gotten murdered. if you spare a thought of what that person went through you would most likely shed a tear.

and its that tear that tells you that you love that person UNCONDITIONALLY, and that you would never wish that kind of harm upon anyone on this planet because we are all ONE and we know that deep inside. but through all the crap that we have to put up with, all the conditioning and brainwashing by this sick sick elite, we have become disconnected from our multidimensional self.

Insanity is a perfectly natural adjustment to a totally UNNATURAL and negative environment - R.D. Laing

lord xyz
Originally posted by Deano
bullshit lord xyz. you hold love for your parents surely, and its strong. what you have to realise is that we must show a similar love to all beings, because they are us.

beowulf, the message is that we have become disconnected from who we really are.

would you wish harm upon your family or friends? whats that feeling like when you hear a news story of some old age pensioner who has got raped, or of a child thats gotten murdered. if you spare a thought of what that person went through you would most likely shed a tear.

and its that tear that tells you that you love that person UNCONDITIONALLY, and that you would never wish that kind of harm upon anyone on this planet because we are all ONE and we know that deep inside. but through all the crap that we have to put up with, all the conditioning and brainwashing by this sick sick elite, we have become disconnected from our multidimensional self.

Insanity is a perfectly natural adjustment to a totally UNNATURAL and negative environment - R.D. Laing You obviously don't know me.

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by Deano
bullshit lord xyz. you hold love for your parents surely, and its strong. what you have to realise is that we must show a similar love to all beings, because they are us.

beowulf, the message is that we have become disconnected from who we really are.

would you wish harm upon your family or friends? whats that feeling like when you hear a news story of some old age pensioner who has got raped, or of a child thats gotten murdered. if you spare a thought of what that person went through you would most likely shed a tear.

and its that tear that tells you that you love that person UNCONDITIONALLY, and that you would never wish that kind of harm upon anyone on this planet because we are all ONE and we know that deep inside. but through all the crap that we have to put up with, all the conditioning and brainwashing by this sick sick elite, we have become disconnected from our multidimensional self.

Insanity is a perfectly natural adjustment to a totally UNNATURAL and negative environment - R.D. Laing

Of course I feel emotions for people who are abused and murdered, but it is not love. I do not love the old woman who was mugged; I feel sympathy for her and her difficult situation. It is not love, it is empathy.

That tear that I (don't) shed, does not at all mean I love that person unconditionally. What if that 'old age pensioner' was revealed to be an ex-Nazi, a German immigrant responsible for the deaths of hundreds? If that was revealed, people's opinions would shift immediately, and THAT shows that it is most certainly conditional: conditional empathy.

There are only a select few people that any one of us can claim we love unconditionally. We do not love strangers unconditionally.

lord xyz
Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Of course I feel emotions for people who are abused and murdered, but it is not love. I do not love the old woman who was mugged; I feel sympathy for her and her difficult situation. It is not love, it is empathy.

That tear that I (don't) shed, does not at all mean I love that person unconditionally. What if that 'old age pensioner' was revealed to be an ex-Nazi, a German immigrant responsible for the deaths of hundreds? If that was revealed, people's opinions would shift immediately, and THAT shows that it is most certainly conditional: conditional empathy.

There are only a select few people that any one of us can claim we love unconditionally. We do not love strangers unconditionally. I agree with your point, but I don't think your example is the best.

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by lord xyz
I agree with your point, but I don't think your example is the best.

It was quick, and it gets the job done.

You get my point.

Deano
whatever happens in this world, its due to an unnatural enviroment. the point is not to point the finger and hurl abuse at this person or persons.

back to the quote

Insanity is a perfectly natural adjustment to a totally UNNATURAL and negative environment - R.D. Laing

those emotions you speak of are loving emotions. positive. if you are angry with someone or are wishing bad thoughts, then you are operating on hateful emotions. but if you leave a human in a proper natural state, raised in a correct manner, then the only emotions they would have are loving ones, because thats our natural state.

you are just understanding the meaning of the word love. like so many others who have been cut off from it.

When people are not given unconditional acceptance and love, then they:

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Feel constrained to act in ways which are inconsistent with their beliefs and feelings.
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Lack the freedom to be themselves.
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Live their lives to please others rather than to please themselves.
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Are not given the freedom to experience the natural consequences of their own actions and decisions.
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Can become dependent on others to make them feel good about themselves.
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Can become very rule bound and perfectionistic in seeking to do what is "right'' or "expected'' of them in order to be accepted or loved.
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Are more likely to experience low self-esteem and low self-worth.
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Feel misunderstood, not approved of, and defensive.
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Have poor relationship skills and experience failed relationships.
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Work harder at meeting conditions and expectations set for them by others than working at becoming self-directed, self-sufficient, and self-reliant.
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Can become withdrawn and isolate themselves so as not to experience future rejection and non-approval.
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Confuse the need to follow rules and obey directions as the only way to be accepted and loved by others.
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Believe that they can never fail or make a mistake because they would never be worthy of love or acceptance from others.
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Do not learn how to accept and love themselves unconditionally and therefore are very self-critical, self-disapproving and self-punitive.
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Tend to set unrealistic, no-achievable, and overly idealistic expectations for themselves which must first be met in order to accept and love themselves.
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Become their own worst critics who are never able to unconditionally accept and love themselves.

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sounds exavtly like the world today doesnt it? we are disconnected. thats why people dont understand

Deano
http://esnips.com/doc/4201d768-182b-439f-9987-ebcaffdfdc03/25---hicks-life-is-but-a-dream

one of my fav quotes by bill

siriuswriter
Yup. Just throw out human's tendency to fault and we'll all be okay. smile

lord xyz
Originally posted by J-Beowulf
It was quick, and it gets the job done.

You get my point. laughing out loud

Emperor Ashtar
I don't see myself truly loving another human being ever.

lord xyz
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I don't see myself truly loving another human being ever. Mee to. Except for maybe that one girl.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by lord xyz
Mee to. Except for maybe that one girl.

Females especially, I can't stand them...

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't love anyone. Don't know what it feels like.
Well then there's your first problem.

lord xyz
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Females especially, I can't stand them... Well, they are annoying, but those cute cheery ones are just so special, I could say that I do love them.

lord xyz
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Well then there's your first problem. That's rich coming from you.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, they are annoying, but those cute cheery ones are just so special, I could say that I do love them.


Not for me. . .females piss me off.

NuclearWinter
You can love unconditionally from a distance.

I love everyone on this planet. Most of them from a distance.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
You can love unconditionally from a distance.

I love everyone on this planet. Most of them from a distance.
There is no such thing as unconditional love, it's a lie.

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
There is no such thing as unconditional love, it's a lie.
Unconditional love means that you understand that we are all part of the same source of Energy that was broken up into billions and trillions and gazillions and quatrillions of other pieces of energy.

Thats what unconditional love means to me. To understand and believe that fact without attaching conditions to it would be to see everything as being equal and loving all existence as ONE whole.

What does unconditional love mean to you?

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Unconditional love means that you understand that we are all part of the same source of Energy that was broken up into billions and trillions and gazillions and quatrillions of other pieces of energy.

Uh. . . No, unconditional Love is when you value a person/place/thing without any terms attached to it.

There's really no such thing, because everyone has expectations when they Value/Love. They should because relationships should at least have some terms. If your in a abusive relationship should you unconditionally love that person?

The problem with modern concepts of love is that it's been convoluted and romanticized to the point of becoming pure BS. The only form of love that's still pure in my opinion is friendship. Friendship has less terms than romance and usually last longer. . .


The only thing you should love unconditionally is your Self.

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Uh. . . No, unconditional Love is when you value a person/place/thing without any terms attached to it.

There's really no such thing, because everyone has expectations when they Value/Love. They should because relationships should at least have some terms. If your in a abusive relationship should you unconditionally love that person?

The problem with modern concepts of love is that it's been convoluted and romanticized to the point of becoming pure BS. The only form of love that's still pure in my opinion is friendship. Friendship has less terms than romance and usually last longer. . .


The only thing you should love unconditionally is your Self.

You are trying to attach the emotion of Love to the physical illusions of the Earth.

The two are not the same.

Existence came from Love. Love is the ultimate vibration. You can not reach a higher vibrational frequency than Love. You can go lower, but not higher.

You should not look at Love on a physical perspective. People, as we appear in Human form, are not who we really are when you look deeper. Relationships are not what they seem. Physical bodies can be broken down into energy. Water is vibrating constantly on our Earth. Unconditional Love is not the result of a physical reality. It is the other way around.

Deano
precisely

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
The only thing you should love unconditionally is your Self.

Everything in existence is part of a greater "SELF" than the one your mind uses to try and differentiate from others.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
You are trying to attach the emotion of Love to the physical illusions of the Earth.

The two are not the same

Existence came from Love. Love is the ultimate vibration. You can not reach a higher vibrational frequency than Love. You can go lower, but not higher.

You should not look at Love on a physical perspective. People, as we appear in Human form, are not who we really are when you look deeper. Relationships are not what they seem. Physical bodies can be broken down into energy. Water is vibrating constantly on our Earth. Unconditional Love is not the result of a physical reality. It is the other way around.

Yes, unconditional of the self, nothing more.


Originally posted by NuclearWinter
Everything in existence is part of a greater "SELF" than the one your mind uses to try and differentiate from others.

True, buet every little part is in it's self unique. It is only by discovering your self will you be part of the greater self.

Read tsarions thesis on love, I agree with him.

Deano
its lies to say you should only love yourself. we are all ONE. so if you hurt someone, you are only hurting yourself.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Deano
its lies to say you should only love yourself. we are all ONE. so if you hurt someone, you are only hurting yourself.

Ugh, Your missing the point, we are not all the same, we are simply connected. Big difference . . .

Deano
im not missing it. we appear different on the surface, we all support different teams, we all prefer different movies, we all look different. but thats a refelction of society, its not who we are. if we peeled this all away you would find out that we are all one, connected as you say. so if people knew this at a deep level, the ills of the world would fade away

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Deano
im not missing it. we appear different on the surface,

No, we different completely, nothing in this universe is 100% the same. We may be similar, but never the same.

Deano
you are judging it on the PHYSICAL being

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Deano
you are judging it on the PHYSICAL being

No, I'm not. . .we are not the same. . . we are simply connected.

NuclearWinter
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
No, we different completely, nothing in this universe is 100% the same. We may be similar, but never the same.

False. Ultimately, once everything in the Universe is broken down to it's original source, it then becomes 1 thing again.

1 Source from which everything originates.

Hansel and Gretle followed the trail of breadcrumbs. In this case it's the trail of Life.

Everything in the Universe may appear to be physically different, but it is all made of the same substance. Energy. So on the physical/illusional level, or the temporary reality level, things appear to be 100% different.

But on the invisible/energy level, everything is the same. And since the physical World comes into existence from the forces of the invisible World, than the invisible World is closer to the Truth.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by NuclearWinter
False. Ultimately, once everything in the Universe is broken down to it's original source, it then becomes 1 thing again.

1 Source from which everything originates.

Hansel and Gretle followed the trail of breadcrumbs. In this case it's the trail of Life.

Everything in the Universe may appear to be physically different, but it is all made of the same substance. Energy.

Nope, everything is unique regardless of how connected it is. I'm a pantheist, But I still believe that human beings are different and the same.

Deano
we ARE different on one level yes. different droplets of water but still part of the same infinite ocean of conciousness. all one, all knowing.

if you have a belief, you are caught in the illusion. as the title of david ickes book says 'infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion.

thats quite true. break down everything like nuke says, and it becomes one thing. you are looking at the illusions and all the distractions and false beliefs. they are not true. religions are illusuion too, they all think they are following a unique faith when they all come from the same blueprint.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Deano
we ARE different on one level yes. different droplets of water but still part of the same infinite ocean of conciousness. all one, all knowing.

if you have a belief, you are caught in the illusion. as the title of david ickes book says 'infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion.

So, If I disagree I'm caught in an illusion. Sounds like a cult to me. . .
Originally posted by Deano

thats quite true. break down everything like nuke says, and it becomes one thing. you are looking at the illusions and all the distractions and false beliefs. they are not true. religions are illusuion too, they all think they are following a unique faith when they all come from the same blueprint.

Your missing my point entirely, we are all uniuque and we are all connected. It's like Jigsaw puzzles, Each piece is unique from one another. Each piece also holds a small part of a greater Image, But together they make up even greater picture. Yes, they are all one, but they are not the same.

Deano
you are judging it on the pyhsical though. theres no other way i can see you judging this.

there is only one energy, one conciousness. everything else is the imagination of that conciousness. illusion.

its not a cult. you follow michael tsarion and many people have called that following a cult

J-Beowulf
Originally posted by Deano
you are judging it on the pyhsical though. theres no other way i can see you judging this.

there is only one energy, one conciousness. everything else is the imagination of that conciousness. illusion.

its not a cult. you follow michael tsarion and many people have called that following a cult

Sounds like a great big pile of crap to me. There isn't even real meaning in what you just said. If you're trying to sound "deep," then I guess you're succeeding...

Deano
thats just how it is. everything is energy, fact.

Emperor Ashtar
Originally posted by Deano
you are judging it on the pyhsical though. theres no other way i can see you judging this.

there is only one energy, one conciousness. everything else is the imagination of that conciousness. illusion.

its not a cult. you follow michael tsarion and many people have called that following a cult

I don't follow no one, hell I haven't researched tsarion in months And, your ignoring my Jigsaw analogy.

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