So ANT-MAN and NAMOR have a movie, but Black Panther doesn't lol?

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Madvillain
Black Panther has one of the most rich and intriguing backgrounds of any Marvel character. You can easily make several movies from his comic book storylines. Marvel would be stupid not to take on a BP movie...they will lose money from the likes of Ant-Man and .....Namor? Namor? lol...wow...

Chiwetel Ejiofor would make the picture perfect Black Panther for sure though.

http://images.salon.com/ent/movies/int/2005/03/24/ejiofor/story.jpg
http://cdn.channel.aol.com/pmms/productpagemovies/07/04/2222400

he is originally from nigeria, and is a master of accents. chiwetel ftw.

Supreme being
Originally posted by Madvillain
Black Panther has one of the most rich and intriguing backgrounds of any Marvel character. You can easily make several movies from his comic book storylines. Marvel would be stupid not to take on a BP movie...they will lose money from the likes of Ant-Man and .....Namor? Namor? lol...wow...

Chiwetel Ejiofor would make the picture perfect Black Panther for sure though.

http://images.salon.com/ent/movies/int/2005/03/24/ejiofor/story.jpg
http://cdn.channel.aol.com/pmms/productpagemovies/07/04/2222400

he is originally from nigeria, and is a master of accents. chiwetel ftw.

Oh boy this is likely to turn into something to do with race, wasnt that guy in Serinity?

Madvillain
Originally posted by Supreme being
Oh boy this is likely to turn into something to do with race, wasnt that guy in Serinity?

Umm, who mentioned anything about race? And yeah, he's the guy from Serenity.

Supreme being
Originally posted by Madvillain
Umm, who mentioned anything about race? And yeah, he's the guy from Serenity.

No one said anything about race i was just saying don't be surprised if someone asked why does BP warrant a movie is it because his black.

Alfheim
Well Blade has had a movie. I would say im suprised that caps not getting a movie but Ant man is.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well Blade has had a movie. I would say im suprised that caps not getting a movie but Ant man is.


Again, what does Blade having a movie have to do with anything? And Captain America does have a movie, scheduled for release in 2009.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458339/

Swanky-Tuna
Ant-man could be really interesting. Especially if it's Ultimate Ant-man.

It would be cool to see a Black Panther movie but you have to wonder about the backlash, holy crap I accidentally put "blacklash" at first, hahahaha, of people who don't know any better and think Black Panther is a ripoff of Batman. I mean... he does seem like a little bit of a ripoff but others won't know or care about the huge differences.

NoFate007
Black Panther should definitely have a movie before Ant-Man...but not before Thor...even though I'm not particularly a fan of the 4 mentioned. Pym should just be involved in an Avengers movie or something.

Validus
Ant Man getting a movie is a joke. Horrible idea.

xmarksthespot
Marvel has actually announced the intention to make a Black Panther film already... likewise Thor. No idea who's going to see the Ant-Man movie...

Entity
Originally posted by Madvillain

http://images.salon.com/ent/movies/int/2005/03/24/ejiofor/story.jpg
http://cdn.channel.aol.com/pmms/productpagemovies/07/04/2222400
This guy definitely looks like T"Challa.

I been meaning to watch Serenity. I guess now I will to see if he could fill T'Challa's shoes as well.

Originally posted by Validus
Ant Man getting a movie is a joke. Horrible idea.

Agreed 100% Pym is the biggest joke of a hero ever seen.
Yes I even think he's worse then Superman. ALLOT WORSE.

And anyone who knows me knows how much I hate Clark.

Swanky-Tuna
Oh c'mon, Ultimate Ant-man is so screwed up and such a jerk. I'd love to see that on film.

Oh wait, ANT-man. No man-giant fights? Now I'm disheartened.

Kazenji
Originally posted by Madvillain
Again, what does Blade having a movie have to do with anything? .


If you actully read properly Alfheim was replying to what Supreme being said.

Madvillain
Originally posted by Kazenji
If you actully read properly Alfheim was replying to what Supreme being said.

I'm well aware of that...just reading between the lines, thats all.

srankmissingnin
I think Black Panther is too much like Batman for a movie to go over well with a casual movie goer.

Anyway Djimon Hounsou would be 100000 times better as Black Panther then Chiwetel Ejiofor.

llagrok
Ant-man movie is a laugh, but Namor might be interesting. I wonder who he'll be fighting.

Symmetric Chaos
I think BP would make for a much better movie than AntMan. Namor and him are both good ideas but Namor is much better known so he'll get the movie.

NoFate007
As far as appearance-wise though, if they give Namor a pair of green booty shorts like he normally wears, no matter what it is, it'll be stupid. You can try your very best to make a character a "badass", but the costume has a lot to deal with it. Nobody will look at that and say "hm...looks cool", they'll go "wow, who's the sea ***?" haha.

Ant-Man though........didn't we cover all that crap in "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"??

grey fox
Antman will be good , why ? Because their not taking themselves seriously.

Unlike other SH movies their going to poke fun at the characters whole concept while still going through the plot...

CasanoVa
You should slap yourself for thinking Ant-Man won't rock.

Why?

Hank Pym? Check.

Scott Lang? Check.

Domestic Violence? Check.

Legacy Heroes? Check.

Add them all together and you've got a good mix, I also think that because it isn't such a well-known character and probably won't have half the budget as Spiderman 3 or X3, it'll rock.

Don't you crazy ass white boys think you won't go and watch it, or atleast buy the DVD when it comes out, 'cause you will... You will.

Jimmy Buggs
Black panther is nothing like batman. Id see a BP movie over ironman or antman

CasanoVa
You realise this movie would probably be directed or heavily influeced by Reggie Hudlin don't you?

Hmm: House Party 5: The Black Panther Cometh.

Awesome! eek!

Not.

llagrok
Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
Black panther is nothing like batman. Id see a BP movie over ironman or antman

I'd take an Iron Man movie over BP any day of the week.

NoFate007
Originally posted by CasanoVa
You should slap yourself for thinking Ant-Man won't rock.

Why?

Hank Pym? Check.

Scott Lang? Check.

Domestic Violence? Check.

Legacy Heroes? Check.

Add them all together and you've got a good mix, I also think that because it isn't such a well-known character and probably won't have half the budget as Spiderman 3 or X3, it'll rock.

Don't you crazy ass white boys think you won't go and watch it, or atleast buy the DVD when it comes out, 'cause you will... You will.


How does a smaller budget make a film better? That means they won't have the proper funding to say "don't worry about whether or not we have the resources to do that".

And what's the point of "you crazy ass white boys"? Since when do you have to be white to see comic book films? You know, for a thread that started off with people wondering whether or not the issue of "a black superhero film" would come up, I'm not surprised that there was a random jab at white people before it. Just because I'm white doesn't mean I'll like any white superhero. If you look at my previous posts, I'm far more supportive of a BP movie than Ant-Man or Namor. I'll go see them, as I've seen every comic book movie so far, because I'm a comic book fan. It has nothing to do with what race I am.

But of course, if I take offense to that comment, then I'm being politically incorrect......

CasanoVa
Originally posted by NoFate007
How does a smaller budget make a film better? That means they won't have the proper funding to say "don't worry about whether or not we have the resources to do that".

And what's the point of "you crazy ass white boys"? Since when do you have to be white to see comic book films? You know, for a thread that started off with people wondering whether or not the issue of "a black superhero film" would come up, I'm not surprised that there was a random jab at white people before it. Just because I'm white doesn't mean I'll like any white superhero. If you look at my previous posts, I'm far more supportive of a BP movie than Ant-Man or Namor. I'll go see them, as I've seen every comic book movie so far, because I'm a comic book fan. It has nothing to do with what race I am.

But of course, if I take offense to that comment, then I'm being politically incorrect......

Silly rabbit, I'm white roll eyes (sarcastic). Be as politically incorrect as you want, makes little difference to me.

I just think that the smaller a budget that Super-Hero movies have the better; because when they have too large a budget they go over the tops with special effects and stuff like that.

NoFate007
Originally posted by CasanoVa
Silly rabbit, I'm white roll eyes (sarcastic). Be as politically incorrect as you want, makes little difference to me.

I just think that the smaller a budget that Super-Hero movies have the better; because when they have too large a budget they go over the tops with special effects and stuff like that.

I do agree with you that a lot of them seem to subscribe to "the bigger, the better", but I think that's more an issue of competence and research than budget size. Without a big budget, we wouldn't have been able to see the Narrows in Batman Begins. Hell, look at the old Fantastic 4 movie (not saying the new one's a shining star in itself lol). Small budgets lead to cartoon Human Torches lol.

CasanoVa
Originally posted by NoFate007
I do agree with you that a lot of them seem to subscribe to "the bigger, the better", but I think that's more an issue of competence and research than budget size. Without a big budget, we wouldn't have been able to see the Narrows in Batman Begins. Hell, look at the old Fantastic 4 movie (not saying the new one's a shining star in itself lol). Small budgets lead to cartoon Human Torches lol.

Well I think Batman Begins had a reasonable budget and a small amount of CGI and stuff like that. It was kept simple but true to the character, so it worked. Yet like you mentioned FF = Big Budget and bloody Magneto wannabe Doom and stuff like that. I think Marvel would give Namor & Ant-Man both enough, but not a sillily large amount because neither are really going to be breaking box office records.

Madvillain
Originally posted by NoFate007
As far as appearance-wise though, if they give Namor a pair of green booty shorts like he normally wears, no matter what it is, it'll be stupid. You can try your very best to make a character a "badass", but the costume has a lot to deal with it. Nobody will look at that and say "hm...looks cool", they'll go "wow, who's the sea ***?" haha.

Ant-Man though........didn't we cover all that crap in "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids"??

http://www.urbanshogun.com/matrix/namor_redesign.jpg
they'll more than likely go with the new design. green speedos will look ever so gay.

but if the short-lived Aquaman series is any indication...people arent really interested in seeing characters like Namor.

Madvillain
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think Black Panther is too much like Batman for a movie to go over well with a casual movie goer.

Anyway Djimon Hounsou would be 100000 times better as Black Panther then Chiwetel Ejiofor.

Too much like Batman? Their origins are completely different. Okay sure, he is Batman-esque in appearance..but there is so much more to the character than his suit. If they sell this movie right, it can be a big smash. The movie can even be set in Wakanda, just to give a totally unique outlook...you can even throw in Storm to get the X-Men faithful itching to see it. But I think a selling point of this character is his origin...and a beautiful Wakanda setting a la 300 will really fill up seats.

Madvillain
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think Black Panther is too much like Batman for a movie to go over well with a casual movie goer.

Anyway Djimon Hounsou would be 100000 times better as Black Panther then Chiwetel Ejiofor.

And what exactly makes Djimon 100000 times better than Chiwetel?

NoFate007
Originally posted by Madvillain
http://www.urbanshogun.com/matrix/namor_redesign.jpg
they'll more than likely go with the new design. green speedos will look ever so gay.

but if the short-lived Aquaman series is any indication...people arent really interested in seeing characters like Namor.


EASILY the best costume I've seen Namor in. If they go that route, it'll definitely be received a lot better. But I agree, people don't seem to be too interested in water dwellers right now, so it'll probably just make as much as like Daredevil or something.

Supreme being
Originally posted by NoFate007
EASILY the best costume I've seen Namor in. If they go that route, it'll definitely be received a lot better. But I agree, people don't seem to be too interested in water dwellers right now, so it'll probably just make as much as like Daredevil or something.

Good point and with underworld buried somewhere in the distant past i am sure people dont want to dig up old memories *Shudders*

Swanky-Tuna
Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
Black panther is nothing like batman.
That's not quite fair. They're both rich guys in primarily black costumes that fight crime using a shadows and feat motif.

Average moviegoers probably won't know the differences or care once they're set on associating T'Challa with Jessie Jackson.

If it does come to be though, I hope they go with the full bodysuit and no transforming into an actual panther.

Apolloknight
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=419564

Jimmy Buggs
Good way to bring Namor in also. ^^

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Madvillain
And what exactly makes Djimon 100000 times better than Chiwetel?

He's a better actor, in better shape, he looks more like T'Challa and he is African?

Madvillain
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He's a better actor, in better shape, he looks more like T'Challa and he is African?
LOL

Chiwetel is ALSO African.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Madvillain
LOL

Chiwetel is ALSO African.

Pretty sure he's British.

Madvillain
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pretty sure he's British.

Chiwetel Ejiofor comes from a Nigerian family of Igbo stock.

srankmissingnin
Originally posted by Madvillain
Chiwetel Ejiofor comes from a Nigerian family of Igbo stock.

Ejiofor was born in England and he has English accent, he's British. Hounsou was born in Africa and he has an African accent, he's African.

Madvillain
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Ejiofor was born in England and he has English accent, he's British. Hounsou was born in Africa and he has an African accent, he's African.

And what pray tell is an African accent lol? Is it an arab-influenced one of the Egyptians, or the English-Dutch hybrid of the Boers? Exactly what is an 'African' accent?

And if you've watched "Dirty Pretty Things" you'd know that Chiwetel can put on a FLAWLESS Nigerian (west african) accent.

And yes Chiwetel is British, with an African heritage. Are 2nd generation Asians no longer Asian because they were born in the U.S?

lol you are wrong on all counts. ignorance.

xmarksthespot
He's an African-Briton in the same sense that black people in the U.S. can be referred to as African-American. However "African," in and of itself is incorrect terminology afaik.

Madvillain
amazing....so what exactly would you describe his heritage as? i was born in America to Nigerian parents...and that is my heritage--African. lol are you going to sit there and tell me what I am??

xmarksthespot
I'm not telling you how he identifies himself, nor how you identify yourself, I'm just commenting on terminology.

You never specified "heritage" in your earlier post stating Chiwetel is "African" after srank commented on Djimon Hounsou being "African." He was born in Benin, ergo he is African. srank commented on his nationality. He further clarified he was referring to nationality when stating Chiwetel is British - which he is, being born in Britain. He is of African descent or heritage or whatever qualifier one chooses to use. He is an African-Briton. He technically is not African sans qualifier with regard to nationality.

ragesRemorse
black panther is even more uninteresting than ant man and namor, So i hope he doesnt get his own shitty movie

Madvillain
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm not telling you how he identifies himself, nor how you identify yourself, I'm just commenting on terminology.

You never specified "heritage" in your earlier post stating Chiwetel is "African" after srank commented on Djimon Hounsou being "African." He was born in Benin, ergo he is African. srank commented on his nationality. He further clarified he was referring to nationality when stating Chiwetel is British - which he is, being born in Britain. He is of African descent or heritage or whatever qualifier one chooses to use. He is an African-Briton. He technically is not African sans qualifier with regard to nationality.

Chiwetel is British, yes. He is also an African. Is that simple enough?

Djimon being born in Benin has little to do with anything. Hugo Weaving was born in Nigeria--but he isn't Nigerian. Where you are from has to do with where your immediate ancestry is from, and the culture you've grown up with...yes, in those regards Chiwetel is very much British. But as I've said, he is also African. British by nationality, African by blood. Do you understand now? Terms like African-American/Asian-American are pretty damn stupid in my opinion; African-Briton even sounds dumber than the other two lol. It obscures the whole point of them being indicators of one's nationality. I see no reason why a black person born and bred in America should be called African-American, when they have no direct link to the continent. They are Americans, just as Chiwetel (as you pointed out) is British.

Hmm, guess I went off on a tangent there. Anyway, back to the topic big grin

xmarksthespot
If Hugo Weaving was born in Nigeria, then technically he is originally Nigerian. erm

On topic, Ant-Man will probably be shit. Namor can work if done right, and considering he debuted ~30 years before Black Panther, I don't see why the latter character warrants a movie any more than the former.

Madvillain
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If Hugo Weaving was born in Nigeria, then technically he is originally Nigerian. erm



LOL eek!

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