Fin Fang Foom vs Sasquatch and Sabretooth

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Condor
Chinese monster vs Canadian monsters

guy222
Originally posted by Condor
Chinese monster vs Canadian monsters

Team

celestialdemon
Fin Fang Foom wins 10/10.

shksprtx
Team, by a moderate margin -- say, 7/10

llagrok
Originally posted by shksprtx
Team, by a moderate margin -- say, 7/10

LOL, how??

Fin wins 10/10

shksprtx
Originally posted by llagrok
LOL, how??

Fin wins 10/10

Sas has Fin matched (or beaten) in strength -- and don't pay any attention to those handbook ratings showing him at 75-85 tons, as his on-panel feats pretty clearly make him a class 100 IMHO -- and durability, while Sabretooth has the healing factor, strength, and adamantium skeleton which give the team an advantage.

But a moderate one. It won't be a curbstomp by the team, but neither should they lose the majority.

llagrok
Originally posted by shksprtx
Sas has Fin matched (or beaten) in strength -- and don't pay any attention to those handbook ratings showing him at 75-85 tons, as his on-panel feats pretty clearly make him a class 100 IMHO -- and durability, while Sabretooth has the healing factor, strength, and adamantium skeleton which give the team an advantage.

But a moderate one. It won't be a curbstomp by the team, but neither should they lose the majority.

No, that's nonsense.

FFF has a healing factor, over class 100 strength. Acid Breath, incredible durability and telepathy. His size also gives him a huge advantage. Sasquatch? In his recent showings he's been man handled by a really weak Juggernaut and gotten raped, then dungeon gang raped by the Wrecking Crew.

Sabretooth? Please.

FFF is low herald level, I recon he could give Apocalypse a run for his money.

shksprtx
Originally posted by llagrok
No, that's nonsense.

FFF has a healing factor, over class 100 strength. Acid Breath, incredible durability and telepathy. His size also gives him a huge advantage. Sasquatch? In his recent showings he's been man handled by a really weak Juggernaut and gotten raped, then dungeon gang raped by the Wrecking Crew.

Sabretooth? Please.

FFF is low herald level, I recon he could give Apocalypse a run for his money.

Even disregarding Sabretooth, and allowing for the fact that Sas did in fact get pwned by the Crew, recent evidence suggests that Tanaraq may still be in the picture.

If Walter allows Tanaraq to take over, then FFF is done for.

llagrok
Originally posted by shksprtx
Even disregarding Sabretooth, and allowing for the fact that Sas did in fact get pwned by the Crew, recent evidence suggests that Tanaraq may still be in the picture.

If Walter allows Tanaraq to take over, then FFF is done for.

So your entire reasoning is based on a maybe and an if.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/niggapleaserh6.jpg

shksprtx
Originally posted by llagrok
So your entire reasoning is based on a maybe and an if.


And yours is based on one poor showing which was more a result of PIS/CIS than anything else...For evidence of which, please refer back to the Omega Flight thread in the Comic Books Forum.

However, Sas has a history of pretty solid feats.

Sas did serious damage to the Great Beast Tundra -- not enough to take him down, but enough to certainly make him take notice -- and Tundra makes FFF look like Mole Man.

Sas has gone toe-to-toe with Hulk, Thing, and several other heavy hitters, and though he usually loses (again, PIS/CIS/jobbing in most cases) he almost always walks away having earned the respect of his opponent.

Sas is also smart. Between he and Sabretooth, I should think they would have a certain tactical edge.

I respect FFF. I really do. And I think the acid breath is a factor to reckon with.

But I still think the team can win this.

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by llagrok
No, that's nonsense.

FFF has a healing factor, over class 100 strength. Acid Breath, incredible durability and telepathy. His size also gives him a huge advantage. Sasquatch? In his recent showings he's been man handled by a really weak Juggernaut and gotten raped, then dungeon gang raped by the Wrecking Crew.

Sabretooth? Please.

FFF is low herald level, I recon he could give Apocalypse a run for his money. Good points. Sasquatches recent showings are pretty low. Getting man-handled by a very very weakened Juggernaut and gang raped by the Wrecking Crew. Oh and then there is his fight with Sabretooth. Walters punches didn't even hurt Creed. And Creed put Sasquatch down with a shovel!

llagrok
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Good points. Sasquatches recent showings are pretty low. Getting man-handled by a very very weakened Juggernaut and gang raped by the Wrecking Crew. Oh and then there is his fight with Sabretooth. Walters punches didn't even hurt Creed. And Creed put Sasquatch down with a shovel!

Exactly.

I'm not deliberately trashing Sasquatch, but he is far from FFF's level. How strong do you think FFF is? Please write down what you think his powers.

llagrok
Originally posted by llagrok
Exactly.

I'm not deliberately trashing Sasquatch, but he is far from FFF's level. How strong do you think FFF is shksprtx? Please write down what you think his powers.

Hyperion Prime
Fin Fang Foom uses them as egg rolls. FFF has flame breath that could easily burn them to the bone. He can fly to keep out of range of both of them. FFF strength is incredible...as a matter of fact Sabertooth is a non-factor. One solid blast from FFF and sabertooth is gone.

llagrok
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Fin Fang Foom uses them as egg rolls. FFF has flame breath that could easily burn them to the bone. He can fly to keep out of range of both of them. FFF strength is incredible...as a matter of fact Sabertooth is a non-factor. One solid blast from FFF and sabertooth is gone.

Exactly, Acid breath should give his healing factor more then enough to handle. Then another attack to make sure he stays down for a while.

P.S Sorry for the accidental double post earlier.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by llagrok
No, that's nonsense.

FFF has a healing factor, over class 100 strength. Acid Breath, incredible durability and telepathy. His size also gives him a huge advantage. Sasquatch? In his recent showings he's been man handled by a really weak Juggernaut and gotten raped, then dungeon gang raped by the Wrecking Crew.

Sabretooth? Please.

FFF is low herald level, I recon he could give Apocalypse a run for his money.

I agree with Foom wins, even though he tends to job such as losing to Iron Man.

Actually he never got manhandled by Juggernaut at ALL, and the Crew was amped and are about to take on Omega Flight themselves

http://www.marvel.com/news/-1.970

"Not soon after we learn that some of Canada's new residents are none other than an amped up Wrecking Crew!"

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Good points. Sasquatches recent showings are pretty low. Getting man-handled by a very very weakened Juggernaut and gang raped by the Wrecking Crew. Oh and then there is his fight with Sabretooth. Walters punches didn't even hurt Creed. And Creed put Sasquatch down with a shovel!

I take it you didn't actually read the issue as Juggernaut did not man-handle anyone. He even looked far far worse in the end than Sasquatch, and as I mentioned above their amped up and at one time were each a match for Thor their just nor jobbing now plus the fact Walter had a nrevous breakdown in the fight.

Yeah and that doesn't scream PIS? A shovel? roll eyes (sarcastic)

llagrok
He did get manhandled by Juggernaut, don't deny it. Although it was an even fight, I'll give you that.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by llagrok
He did get manhandled by Juggernaut, don't deny it. Although it was an even fight, I'll give you that.

He didn't, I even posted the fight in the respect thread. When Walter landed the big blow that rocked the grounds, Juggernaut hit Walter when he told him to wait a second and sent him flying. Shortly after Walter charges back and they go shot for shot no one budging an inch and Juggernaut looks horrible in the end

Plus the fact it was badly written as that Snowbird can't be in the United States or she would have died, writer ignored the fact Mac had a shield and that Mac doesn't get his power from the suit anymore so what Northstar did was inaccurate.

King_Mungi
To sum it up yes Foom wins, he has bigger strength feats to boot such as lifting the entire Wall of China.

llagrok
Originally posted by King_Mungi
He didn't, I even posted the fight in the respect thread. When Walter landed the big blow that rocked the grounds, Juggernaut hit Walter when he told him to wait a second and sent him flying. Shortly after Walter charges back and they go shot for shot no one budging an inch and Juggernaut looks horrible in the end

Plus the fact it was badly written as that Snowbird can't be in the United States or she would have died, writer ignored the fact Mac had a shield and that Mac doesn't get his power from the suit anymore so what Northstar did was inaccurate.

Shut up Canadian. You're biased! smile

King_Mungi
Originally posted by llagrok
Shut up Canadian. You're biased! smile

and yet everyone else on the board knows me as quite fair and back up my claims

Do I think Sasquatch is unbeatable? hell no. All though Tanaraq coming back and as a size of a building gives me glee

http://www.alphaflight.net/news_archives/of3_11-12.jpg

llagrok
I trust you read and enjoyed the Exiles? I liked the Tarnaqness there.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by llagrok
I trust you read and enjoyed the Exiles? I liked the Tarnaqness there.

Yep, I love the Exiles and have literally every issue, but I didn't know much about AF when that came out so I was like "WTF? Sasquatch is a god?"

llagrok
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yep, I love the Exiles and have literally every issue, but I didn't know much about AF when that came out so I was like "WTF? Sasquatch is a god?"

Likewise. I didn't know that Tarnaq was THAT powerful.

Also, the Sabretooth limited series was PIS. There is no way Sabreooth brushes off a punch from Sasquatch easily.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by llagrok
Likewise. I didn't know that Tarnaq was THAT powerful.

Also, the Sabretooth limited series was PIS. There is no way Sabreooth brushes off a punch from Sasquatch easily.

and the fact as noted you can't kill Wendigo, but Sabertooth had little trouble doing it and shredding him to ribbons yet....

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/uxm139pg18.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/DCHawks_photo/uxm139pg19.jpg

Condor
Should he turn into Tarnaq, IMO this fight is over quickly.

Jebus reborn
Just like to point out, that Juggernaut's face looked like steak at the end of that fight with Sas...

llagrok
Originally posted by Condor
Should he turn into Tarnaq, IMO this fight is over quickly.

I wouldn't say quickly, then he'd only be slightly above FFF's strength level.

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Just like to point out, that Juggernaut's face looked like steak at the end of that fight with Sas... Looked like steak? Sasquatch has blood pouring out of his mouth begging Juggernaut to hold up. Juggernaut was fighting Earthmover while Sasquatch was recovering after being manhandled by Juggy. Sasquatch has fur on his face plus a healing factor so that might explain why he appeared not to have any bruises.

Juggernaut leveled Sasquatch then he was to fight others while Walter caught his breath. That's why he was able to say even at the end cause Juggy was fighting non-stop.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Looked like steak? Sasquatch has blood pouring out of his mouth begging Juggernaut to hold up. Juggernaut was fighting Earthmover while Sasquatch was recovering after being manhandled by Juggy. Sasquatch has fur on his face plus a healing factor so that might explain why he appeared not to have any bruises.

Juggernaut leveled Sasquatch then he was to fight others while Walter caught his breath. That's why he was able to say even at the end cause Juggy was fighting non-stop.

Exagerate much? Sasquatch was not begging, and Sasquatch was sent flying when HE HAD HIS GUARD DOWN, and then shortly after Sasquatch charged at Juggernaut and they went shot for shot and who looked the worse in the end? Juggernaut. Does it matter? he still looked far better than Juggernaut.

and yet that doesn't make sense as it was Sasquatch's blow that rocked the ground and there was only one sound text implying one hit and the image showed Sasquatch hitting Jugz, so why would he even be hurt? Also as mentioned earlier that story was not even written that well, Alpha Flight government lap-dogs? At that time they wern't following the government, and the other plot holes I mentioned earlier. On this board it's called PIS/CIS. Jugernaut fought one stone golem and got hit once, and then Walter appeared yet again. Stop exagerating.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by llagrok
I wouldn't say quickly, then he'd only be slightly above FFF's strength level.

It should be over quickly, as the Great Beasts can control death and decay and just by looking at someone Tanaraq attacked their body and soul with his magical backlash attack.

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Exagerate much? Sasquatch was not begging, and Sasquatch was sent flying when HE HAD HIS GUARD DOWN, and then shortly after Sasquatch charged at Juggernaut and they went shot for shot and who looked the worse in the end? Juggernaut. Does it matter? he still looked far better than Juggernaut.

and yet that doesn't make sense as it was Sasquatch's blow that rocked the ground and there was only one sound text implying one hit and the image showed Sasquatch hitting Jugz, so why would he even be hurt? Also as mentioned earlier that story was not even written that well, Alpha Flight government lap-dogs? At that time they wern't following the government, and the other plot holes I mentioned earlier. On this board it's called PIS/CIS. Jugernaut fought one stone golem and got hit once, and then Walter appeared yet again. Stop exagerating. Post scans of the fight. After the collision Sasquatch was still on his knees begging Juggy to hold up with blood pouring out of his mouth. Juggernaut at this time was still on his feet. It's clear Sasquatch was in over his head. That's not exxagerating it's stating a fact as we will see when you post the scans.

Then after Juggy sent Walter packing Vindicator yelled for Earthmover to get Juggernaut. For the next 5 or 6 pages he is fighting Earthmover and Sasquatch is nowhere to be seen. Then when we do see him again he hits Juggy when he is on the ground with his guard down.

Post scans.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Post scans of the fight. After the collision Sasquatch was still on his knees begging Juggy to hold up with blood pouring out of his mouth. Juggernaut at this time was still on his feet. It's clear Sasquatch was in over his head. That's not exxagerating it's stating a fact as we will see when you post the scans.

Then after Juggy sent Walter packing Vindicator yelled for Earthmover to get Juggernaut. For the next 5 or 6 pages he is fighting Earthmover and Sasquatch is nowhere to be seen. Then when we do see him again he hits Juggy when he is on the ground with his guard down.

Post scans.

Incorrect, Juggernaut was on the ground laid OUT and bleeding from his mouth and then stood up, stop exagerating. Once again why was Sasquatch hurt from his own blow?


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Battles
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Uncanny X-Men #422 (Vol.1): Juggernaut
Alpha Flight are horribly portrayed as the government's lap dogs and shown as a-holes. Anyways not really a fight since most of the members get attacked from behind. This fight shows Sasquatch going toe to toe with Juggernaut. In the end the one who looked far worse was Juggernaut

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p20.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p21.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p22-23.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p24.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p25.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg
7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p29.jpg
8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p31.jpg
9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p33.jpg
10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p34.jpg
11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p35.jpg
12. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p36.jpg
13. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p38.jpg

Another point this was badly written, the leader of Alpha Flight sees the team is fighting, and what does she do? Nothing, until Iceman walks over and freezes her suit. Please, if your actually validating that event you need help. What? He yells at Juggernaut he is coming and charges right in front of him he clearly saw Sasquatch. Wow, so basically Juggernaut hitting Sasquatch when his guard is down is considered man-handling, but when Sasquatch does it when he is on his knees the same thing Jugz did to him just earlier? it's cheap? hmmm..

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Incorrect, Juggernaut was on the ground laid OUT and bleeding from his mouth and then stood up, stop exagerating. Once again why was Sasquatch hurt from his own blow?


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Battles
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Uncanny X-Men #422 (Vol.1): Juggernaut
Alpha Flight are horribly portrayed as the government's lap dogs and shown as a-holes. Anyways not really a fight since most of the members get attacked from behind. This fight shows Sasquatch going toe to toe with Juggernaut. In the end the one who looked far worse was Juggernaut

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p20.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p21.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p22-23.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p24.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p25.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg
7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p29.jpg
8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p31.jpg
9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p33.jpg
10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p34.jpg
11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p35.jpg
12. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p36.jpg
13. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p38.jpg

Another point this was badly written, the leader of Alpha Flight sees the team is fighting, and what does she do? Nothing, until Iceman walks over and freezes her suit. Please, if your actually validating that event you need help. What? He yells at Juggernaut he is coming and charges right in front of him he clearly saw Sasquatch. Wow, so basically Juggernaut hitting Sasquatch when his guard is down is considered man-handling, but when Sasquatch does it when he is on his knees the same thing Jugz did to him just earlier? it's cheap? hmmm.. You cry more than my sister did when I used to break the heads off her Barbie dolls. Badly written. LOL that cracks me up!

The scans tell the story.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
You cry more than my sister did when I used to break the heads off her Barbie dolls. Badly written. LOL that cracks me up!

The scans tell the story.

Read the rules of the board, and you were proven wrong. You exagerated details that never happened and stated Jugz man-handled Walter when neither did.

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Read the rules of the board, and you were proven wrong. You exagerated details that never happened and stated Jugz man-handled Walter when neither did. I wasn't proven wrong. Read around this site. Most everybody will agree or have said at one time Juggy spanked his @ss.

All you need to do is read the scans.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
I wasn't proven wrong. Read around this site. Most everybody will agree or have said at one time Juggy spanked his @ss.

All you need to do is read the scans.

Actually no the last time I posted the scans at your request was in the Hulk vs. Sasquatch fight and those who thought that changed their opinions. They admited they were going by word of mouth, and yes the scans clearly show it. Your exageration and flat out lies were proven wrong.

Clobberin Time!
Would you care to highlight those comments? I think you are dreaming again. It's not hard to see. Juggy was up and ready for more while Sasquatch was asking Juggy to hold up. Sasquatch had help and still could only pull a draw. And that's being generous.

Clobberin Time!
When Juggy was still reeling from his fight with Earthmover Sasquatch sucker punched him. And Sasquatch was gone for like 5 pages!! He had time to catch his breath and heal to where Juggy did not.

TricksterPriest
Probably doesn't make much difference, but FFF has dragon karate. cool

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Would you care to highlight those comments? I think you are dreaming again. It's not hard to see. Juggy was up and ready for more while Sasquatch was asking Juggy to hold up. Sasquatch had help and still could only pull a draw. And that's being generous.

You said Juggernaut was still standing from the hit, when in fact he was bloddy and laid out and attacked when Walter's guard was down

You said Juggernaut manhandled Walter when he had his guard down...false

Then you claimed what Sasquatch later did to Juggernaut was a cheap shot, yet earlier Juggernaut did the exact same thing and you say it's manhandling

You said Juggernaut dominated the fight, but the scans clearly show they went shot for shot and didn't move a inch in the end.

You said Sasquatch was begging for him to stop, yet clearly he wasn't. "Wait, man. Hold up a second" is not begging, especially since it was Sasquatch own blow that did all the damage.

You implied Juggernaut was taking on everyone else, but really he fought a stone golem and hit him once, and then Walter appeared and was pissed

You validated the Sabertooth incident, which was clearly PIS

Then you exagerated other fights such as when Alpha Flight fought the Wrecking Crew where Walter was barely even shown in it. Wildheart, Nemesis, Guardian and even Aurora were the focal points.

I point out errors in the X-Men apperance which portrayed Snowbird, Guardian I, Vindicator II incorrectly and you say I'm crying. Yet rules of the board are on my side.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
When Juggy was still reeling from his fight with Earthmover Sasquatch sucker punched him. And Sasquatch was gone for like 5 pages!! He had time to catch his breath and heal to where Juggy did not.

Sucker punched him? wow...yet what Juggernaut did to him was manhandling and not a sucker punch? Hypercrite and the fact Walter didn't expect Juggernaut to hit him compared to Juggeranut knowing exactally where Sasquatch was and that he was going to attack him. Yeah Sasquatch sucker punches him, while Juggernaut manhandles him? Your credibility is shot.

Juggernaut on Sasquatch
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p25.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg

Sasquatch on Juggernaut
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p31.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p33.jpg

and? 5 pages doesn't mean much as it took 2 pages for Sasquatch to land a blow on Juggernaut after he got hit by the golem.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Probably doesn't make much difference, but FFF has dragon karate. cool

Him and Wong owned in the Marvel Christmas Special when they took on Hydra stick out tongue

TricksterPriest
He took down Hydra? eek! Wow, cool. Fin Fang Foom rocks. :up

King_Mungi
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He took down Hydra? eek! Wow, cool. Fin Fang Foom rocks. :up

Not all of Hydra just some squad and he fought at the size of a human being not as a giant.

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not all of Hydra just some squad and he fought at the size of a human being not as a giant.

Even better. big grin Got scans?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Even better. big grin Got scans?

Naaa..sorry

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Sucker punched him? wow...yet what Juggernaut did to him was manhandling and not a sucker punch? Hypercrite and the fact Walter didn't expect Juggernaut to hit him compared to Juggeranut knowing exactally where Sasquatch was and that he was going to attack him. Yeah Sasquatch sucker punches him, while Juggernaut manhandles him? Your credibility is shot.

Juggernaut on Sasquatch
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p25.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg

Sasquatch on Juggernaut
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p31.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p33.jpg

and? 5 pages doesn't mean much as it took 2 pages for Sasquatch to land a blow on Juggernaut after he got hit by the golem. I'll deal with this later. I don't have time right now to make you look like a biased fan.

golem370
IMO Juggernaut had Sasquatch in that fight specially since Juggernaut got hit pretty hard by those golems. He is the real question was that classic Juggernaut Weakened Juggernaut or Current Juggernaut.

MRasheed
Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
Fin Fang Foom uses them as egg rolls.

laughing

Co-Sign. FFF ftw

shksprtx
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
I'll deal with this later. I don't have time right now to make you look like a biased fan.

How do you expect to do that? Mungi has provided clear arguments and backed them up with scans and other evidence.

confused

1Easta1
Foom would just eat them for dinner.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by golem370
IMO Juggernaut had Sasquatch in that fight specially since Juggernaut got hit pretty hard by those golems. He is the real question was that classic Juggernaut Weakened Juggernaut or Current Juggernaut.

Current Juggernaut, and it was Sasquatch blow that first rocked Juggernaut. So what Sasquatch did to Jugz in the big hit > stone golem hit. Juggernaut as shown in the scans hit Sasquatch when his guard was down..whoopie

Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
I'll deal with this later. I don't have time right now to make you look like a biased fan.

roll eyes (sarcastic)

Originally posted by 1Easta1
Foom would just eat them for dinner.

Agreed, Foom is very underated.

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by golem370
IMO Juggernaut had Sasquatch in that fight specially since Juggernaut got hit pretty hard by those golems. He is the real question was that classic Juggernaut Weakened Juggernaut or Current Juggernaut. HA! I see I am not the only one who see's is that way. I'm gonna break it down later.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
HA! I see I am not the only one who see's is that way. I'm gonna break it down later.

roll eyes (sarcastic) This time actually provide evidence and don't exagerate things and ignore other events m'kay?

Golem has in the past gone on record to dislike Alpha Flight and doesn't agree with their feats.

Clobberin Time!
Juggy and Sasquatch charge each other landing massive blows.
Creating a massive crater. Notice both of them lying on the ground? Also notice Juggy is on his feet first? And Vindicator is worried about Sasquatch stuttering his name. Sasquatch while still on his knees tells Juggy to hold up with blood pouring out of his mouth. Juggy then proceeds to smack his @ss through a cop car. Then Vindicator tell Earthmover to get Juggernaut. Why would she do that? Did she think Sasquatch was in trouble perhaps? I think so. Then Earthmover comes in at attacks Juggernaut. Eventually smashing Cain into the ground with a massive blow. Then Sasquatch comes back after being MIA for a few pages and smacks Juggernaut while he was still reeling from EARTHMOVERS(Not Sasquatches) punch. And if you look closely you can see Cain was looking at he ground when Walter attacked him. Then after Cain fought Earthmover they battles evenly cause Juggy was gassed at this point.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Juggy and Sasquatch charge each other landing massive blows.
Creating a massive crater. Notice both of them lying on the ground? Also notice Juggy is on his feet first?

It was Sasquatch blow as shown and yes Jugz was up first and Sasquatch had his guard down and Jugz punched him. Wowie.

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p21.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p22-23.jpg

Originally posted by Clobberin Time!

And Vindicator is worried about Sasquatch stuttering his name. Sasquatch while still on his knees tells Juggy to hold up with blood pouring out of his mouth. Juggy then proceeds to smack his @ss through a cop car.


Worried? Everyone was shocked by the damage..."Holy mother of God". Hardly considering basically the entire team was attacked from behind they had no one left. Jugz attacked Puck from behind, Angel with Snowbird, Northstar with Guardian. Nice you ignore the fact blood was pouring out of Jugz mouth as well, and once again punches him with HIS GUARD DOWN. My god it's like talking to a wall.

Originally posted by Clobberin Time!

Then Vindicator tell Earthmover to get Juggernaut. Why would she do that? Did she think Sasquatch was in trouble perhaps? I think so. Then Earthmover comes in at attacks Juggernaut.

Because Sasquatch and Earthmover at that point were the last of the team. Everyone was taken out including both the leaders Guardian and Vindicator and in ways that is not possible. Once again your ignoring. In trouble? hardly, have you actually seen what Sasquatch has done and who he has fought? No I don't think you have.

Originally posted by Clobberin Time!

Eventually smashing Cain into the ground with a massive blow.

A massive blow that did no physical damage or environmental such as create a massive creater or anything to that regard. Oh yes massive blow roll eyes (sarcastic) Try again.

Originally posted by Clobberin Time!

Then Sasquatch comes back after being MIA for a few pages and smacks Juggernaut while he was still reeling from EARTHMOVERS(Not Sasquatches) punch.

and? that doesn't mean 5 pages happened in real time, heck it took Sasquatch two pages to charge and hit Jugz and he was directly in front of him.

Originally posted by Clobberin Time!

And if you look closely you can see Cain was looking at he ground when Walter attacked him. Then after Cain fought Earthmover they battles evenly cause Juggy was gassed at this point.

Your an idiot the page before Sasquatch SCREAMS "JUGGERNAUT" and everyone else is directly looking at him. You honestly think he didn't know the attack was coming when Chamber and Husk moved the hell out of the way? Please, and you call me biased? ha!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p31.jpg

Gased? from one punch? wow. Someone is grasping. Yet Sasquatch and Juggernaut went toe to toe afterwards and once again who looked the worst? Juggernaut. Fact.

Clobberin Time!
Originally posted by King_Mungi




Your an idiot
There you go. Right back to the insults. Why do you always do that when sombody disagrees with you?

The rest of your post was grabage. I did not make anything up in my summary of the fight like you want to believe.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
There you go. Right back to the insults. Why do you always do that when sombody disagrees with you?

The rest of your post was grabage. I did not make anything up in my summary of the fight like you want to believe.

Because you call me biased and say I twist facts yet you just did it there. I called you on your bullshit.

Neither did I, but your exagerating and leaving out details.

golem370
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Incorrect, Juggernaut was on the ground laid OUT and bleeding from his mouth and then stood up, stop exagerating. Once again why was Sasquatch hurt from his own blow?


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Uncanny X-Men #422 (Vol.1): Juggernaut
Alpha Flight are horribly portrayed as the government's lap dogs and shown as a-holes. Anyways not really a fight since most of the members get attacked from behind. This fight shows Sasquatch going toe to toe with Juggernaut. In the end the one who looked far worse was Juggernaut

1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p20.jpg
2. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p21.jpg
3. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p22-23.jpg
4. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p24.jpg
5. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p25.jpg
6. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p26.jpg
7. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p29.jpg
8. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p31.jpg
9. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p33.jpg
10. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p34.jpg
11. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p35.jpg
12. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p36.jpg
13. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/p38.jpg

Another point this was badly written, the leader of Alpha Flight sees the team is fighting, and what does she do? Nothing, until Iceman walks over and freezes her suit. Please, if your actually validating that event you need help. What? He yells at Juggernaut he is coming and charges right in front of him he clearly saw Sasquatch. Wow, so basically Juggernaut hitting Sasquatch when his guard is down is considered man-handling, but when Sasquatch does it when he is on his knees the same thing Jugz did to him just earlier? it's cheap? hmmm..


Juggernaut sent Sasquatch flying twice. Sasquatch was only hold on by willpower. Juggernaut would have won the longer the fight went on. Sasquatch did well.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by golem370
Juggernaut sent Sasquatch flying twice. Sasquatch was only hold on by willpower. Juggernaut would have won the longer the fight went on. Sasquatch did well.

Ummm...no, he sent him flying ONCE when he had his guard down, are you kidding me? the longer the fight goes on the worse it would have been for Jugz as Tanaraq and Sas stilll had a connection as mentioned by Mauvais in their next appearance in the Wolverine comic.

golem370
First time after Sasquatch and Juggernaut hit each other

golem370
Second time granted he gets comes right back. But Sasquatch never sends him flying.

golem370
Classic Juggernaut would have done way better. You can bet Sasquatch could not have made him bleed.

Alfheim
Originally posted by llagrok
So your entire reasoning is based on a maybe and an if.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/niggapleaserh6.jpg

Thats twice you've used that. hysterical I love it.

jinzin
Sasquatch tanaraqs out for this like he does every forum fight and the team wins....

if that doesn't work the combined fanboy power from me and mungi will amp our character 10 fold past what they can actually do and fooms is done for.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by golem370
First time after Sasquatch and Juggernaut hit each other

Guard down

Originally posted by golem370
Second time granted he gets comes right back. But Sasquatch never sends him flying.

and? If that makes you stronger I guess Thing is stronger than the Hulk as he sent Hulk back further from a punch or US Agent over Ronan, or Spider-Man with Rhino or Wolverine with Roughhouse, etc.. It doesn't take much strength to actually uproot a person off the ground especially someone who is just 1 ton from a class 100 punch. Does that mean he is stronger? no. That's not flying, that's hit back

Originally posted by golem370
Classic Juggernaut would have done way better. You can bet Sasquatch could not have made him bleed.

Classic would have destroyed Sasquatch, there isn't anything Sasquatch physically could do to him...at all. Your right he wouldn't at all, he would get destroyed.

Originally posted by jinzin
Sasquatch tanaraqs out for this like he does every forum fight and the team wins....

if that doesn't work the combined fanboy power from me and mungi will amp our character 10 fold past what they can actually do and fooms is done for.

haha, I'm trying to cut back on the Tanaraq change as it removes the "fun" out of these debates. The "S" team loses here, but I could have said Sasquatch grows hundreds of feel tall when he turns into Tanaraq wink

http://www.alphaflight.net/news_archives/of3_11-12.jpg

snoopdogg
Sorry King I kinda agree with Golem and CT on this one. Sasquatch looked worse imo especially before Earthmover stepped in.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Sorry King I kinda agree with Golem and CT on this one. Sasquatch looked worse imo especially before Earthmover stepped in.

confused you think Colossus beat Sasquatch back in the day with a simple judo toss.

Physically no, Juggernaut looked worse and the reason as I mentioned Earthmover jumped in as Alpha Flight was picked off basically the only real members that could fight were Earthmover and Sasquatch at this point. When no cheap shops were done, they battled blow for blow none of them budging an inch...and who looked worse? Juggz. Sasquatch has friggin taking on the Gods of the Arctic and Great Beasts at the same time not going Tanaraq in the Shattered Lands, yet Juggernaut overpowering him? yeah no.

MRasheed
Originally posted by jinzin
if that doesn't work the combined fanboy power from me and mungi will amp our character 10 fold past what they can actually do...

hmmm...

why is this technique so familiar?

golem370
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Guard down



and? If that makes you stronger I guess Thing is stronger than the Hulk as he sent Hulk back further from a punch or US Agent over Ronan, or Spider-Man with Rhino or Wolverine with Roughhouse, etc.. It doesn't take much strength to actually uproot a person off the ground especially someone who is just 1 ton from a class 100 punch. Does that mean he is stronger? no. That's not flying, that's hit back



Classic would have destroyed Sasquatch, there isn't anything Sasquatch physically could do to him...at all. Your right he wouldn't at all, he would get destroyed.



haha, I'm trying to cut back on the Tanaraq change as it removes the "fun" out of these debates. The "S" team loses here, but I could have said Sasquatch grows hundreds of feel tall when he turns into Tanaraq wink

http://www.alphaflight.net/news_archives/of3_11-12.jpg

I meant Juggernaut took Sasquatch's punches better then Sasquatch took Juggernaut's punches. Everytime Juggernaut hit Sasquatch he looked like a cat being hit by lighting.

golem370
Tanaraq + Sasquatch are a powerful force but so is 8th Day Juggernaut who almost squeezed the live out of Thor and then their's Trion Juggernaut too.

judgevskimbo
Fin Fang Foom loses because of his name

complexbrother
Fin Fang Foom in a curbstomp. He regulary fight ubber heavy weights like Iron Man and Thor . and about half the time he wins. they don't have anything that he can't easily handel. he would burn Sabes flesh off his bones. and rip Sasy in half.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/finfangfoom3.jpg

King_Mungi
Originally posted by golem370
I meant Juggernaut took Sasquatch's punches better then Sasquatch took Juggernaut's punches. Everytime Juggernaut hit Sasquatch he looked like a cat being hit by lighting.

Hardly, and Jugz actually LOOKED worse than Sasquatch showing I guess Sas had more "oompf" to his shots.

Originally posted by golem370
Tanaraq + Sasquatch are a powerful force but so is 8th Day Juggernaut who almost squeezed the live out of Thor and then their's Trion Juggernaut too.

8th day would destroy Sasquatch in an utter curbstomp as physically he can't hurt him, Tanaraq is iffy as we don't know much about him. Magical backlash should work, but most likely just be a stalemate since they can't hurt each other. Tanaraq is going to make an appearance in Omega Flight #3 and he is the size of a building. He's HUGE.

Originally posted by complexbrother
Fin Fang Foom in a curbstomp. He regulary fight ubber heavy weights like Iron Man and Thor . and about half the time he wins. they don't have anything that he can't easily handel. he would burn Sabes flesh off his bones. and rip Sasy in half.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/finfangfoom3.jpg

Cosigned, still don't agree with him losing to Iron Man though.

golem370
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Hardly, and Jugz actually LOOKED worse than Sasquatch showing I guess Sas had more "oompf" to his shots.



8th day would destroy Sasquatch in an utter curbstomp as physically he can't hurt him, Tanaraq is iffy as we don't know much about him. Magical backlash should word and Tanaraq is going to make an appearance in Omega Flight #3 and he is the size of a building. He's HUGE.



Cosigned, still don't agree with him losing to Iron Man though.


That was not what I saw I see Sasquatch and Juggernaut each landing a haymaker and both hit the floor at the same time then you see both of them get up and start fighting again where the 900pound Juggernaut sends the 2,000 pound Sasquatch flying and then you see the golem punch Juggs into the ground and take it tow on Juggernaut then like a girl Sasquatch is walking over to Juggernaut and they trade blows again then Juggernaut send Sasquatch flying into a tree where Sasquatch then runs the tree into Juggernaut then you Juggernaut hit Sasquatch again and then the fight stops.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by golem370
That was not what I saw I see Sasquatch and Juggernaut each landing a haymaker and both hit the floor at the same time then you see both of them get up and start fighting again where the 900pound Juggernaut sends the 2,000 pound Sasquatch flying and then you see the golem punch Juggs into the ground and take it tow on Juggernaut then like a girl Sasquatch is walking over to Juggernaut and they trade blows against then Juggernaut send Sasquatch flying into a tree where Sasquatch then runs the tree into Juggernaut then you Juggernaut hit Sasquatch again and then the fight stops.

Scan shows Sasquatch hit Jugz and one sound effect implying one hit. Like I mentioned earlier it doesn't take much to lift up a 1 ton character with class 100 strength as explained above and besides that punch after Sasquatch punch was him with his guard down when Sasquatch tells him to hold up . One punch from the golem that did no physical or environmental damage would not take it's toll considering what even this current Jugz has done before. Like a girl? your bias has come through how the hell can you say he looked like a girl? I guess Jugz is the bigger "girl" since he looked worse in the end.

golem370
Then why is it taking so long for Sasquatch to get up if he didn't get hit?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by golem370
Then why is it taking so long for Sasquatch to get up if he didn't get hit?

That's the PIS, writer even made Guardian have no shield and Northstar beat him in a PIS way removing his suit which Mac told him how to do earlier when he was on AF, yet still doesn't work as Mac is a cyborg. He generates the power himself not the suit anymore. Then there's the fact this Snowbird can't be in the U.S or she will die, but here she is. Plus the fact their government lap-dogs, but at this time they were on the outs...etc. It was badly written in general

juggernaut74
Originally posted by golem370
I meant Juggernaut took Sasquatch's punches better then Sasquatch took Juggernaut's punches. Everytime Juggernaut hit Sasquatch he looked like a cat being hit by lighting. That's something I never thought of actually. Good pickup on that.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut74
That's something I never thought of actually. Good pickup on that.

Ummm..what? Golem also said Sasquatch charged at him like a girl...what? Also the fact Sasquatch has taken blows from Hulk and never acted like a "cat getting hit by lightening". Funny as in another thread people are agreeing that whole comic was badly written. Like Snowbird losing to Angel?...friggin Angel?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm..what? Golem also said Sasquatch charged at him like a girl...what? Also the fact Sasquatch has taken blows from Hulk and never acted like a "cat getting hit by lightening". Funny as in another thread people are agreeing that whole comic was badly written. Like Snowbird losing to Angel?...friggin Angel? That fight happened off panel though. Didn't it? Anything could have happened.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut74
That fight happened off panel though. Didn't it? Anything could have happened.

Yes off-panel, you would have to ignore the fact Snowbird is stronger, faster, more durable even smarter and just overall far more powerful. So unless the Gods struck her down it's PIS. Also at this time Snowbird couldn't be in the States or she would die instantly, yet...ta da

Also bad writing Iceman freezing Vindicator geothermal suit, while Heather does NOTHING while her team is getting attacked from behind

juggernaut74
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yes off-panel, you would have to ignore the fact Snowbird is stronger, faster, more durable even smarter and just overall far more powerful. So unless the Gods struck her down it's PIS. Also at this time Snowbird couldn't be in the States or she would die instantly, yet...ta da

Also bad writing Iceman freezing Vindicator geothermal suit, while Heather does NOTHING while her team is getting attacked from behind Just about any comic can be broken down like that. That's the way it goes.

Superman and Silver Surfer suffer from PIS more than just about anybody.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Just about any comic can be broken down like that. That's the way it goes.

Superman and Silver Surfer suffer from PIS more than just about anybody.

There's so many errors in this comic, especially how Alpha FLight is portrayed as government lap-dogs, but at this time they were fighting the government.

Also the fact in vol.1, Puck said he would rather die than hurt a child...yet here? ta da.

grey fox
Foom FTW

King_Mungi
Originally posted by grey fox
Foom FTW

Cosigned, we got side-tracked but he wins.

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
confused you think Colossus beat Sasquatch back in the day with a simple judo toss. Colossus taking down Sasquatch has nothing to do with this though. confused
Originally posted by King_Mungi

Physically no, Juggernaut looked worse and the reason as I mentioned Earthmover jumped in as Alpha Flight was picked off basically the only real members that could fight were Earthmover and Sasquatch at this point. When no cheap shops were done, they battled blow for blow none of them budging an inch...and who looked worse? Juggz. Sasquatch has friggin taking on the Gods of the Arctic and Great Beasts at the same time not going Tanaraq in the Shattered Lands, yet Juggernaut overpowering him? yeah no. Juggernaut looked worse cause he don't have fur on his face or a healing factor either. Plus Earthmovers blow had him reeling. They did battle evenly after Earthmover bought Walter some time but saying neither gave a inch..I don't know. Sasquatches punches didn't even move Juggy back. Juggy knocked sent Walter flying twice. When Sasquatch came back him his hiatus he punched Juggy to which Juggy replied by sending him into a tree. Walters punch didn't even budge Juggy except maybe knock his head back.

In the rematch a few issues later Walter even in Hulk-Buster armor could not even knock out Juggernaut. And Juggy wasn't even fighting back!

I'm still not sold on Tanaraq either. But hopefully the new Omega Flight series will clear up this mystery on him. I do not like the treatment Walter is getting in the series thus far. He's better than that.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Juggernaut looked worse cause he don't have fur on his face or a healing factor either. Plus Earthmovers blow had him reeling. They did battle evenly after Earthmover bought Walter some time but saying neither gave a inch..I don't know. Sasquatches punches didn't even move Juggy back. Juggy knocked sent Walter flying twice. When Sasquatch came back him his hiatus he punched Juggy to which Juggy replied by sending him into a tree. Walters punch didn't even budge Juggy except maybe knock his head back.

In the rematch a few issues later Walter even in Hulk-Buster armor could not even knock out Juggernaut. And Juggy wasn't even fighting back!

I'm still not sold on Tanaraq either. But hopefully the new Omega Flight series will clear up this mystery on him. I do not like the treatment Walter is getting in the series thus far. He's better than that.

and yet punches from Hulk, Hercules, Thing who are stronger than current Jugz didn't make him bleed or make his face go swallon. Yet Jugz will overpower him? yeah no. Previous past fights and showings go against this comic, especially all the other factors I mentioned earlier making this a badly written comic. Snowbird lost to Angel..uh huh. Not really, as the stone golem did no visible physical damage or environmental damage not like Walter's first hit to Jugz and why that would even hurt him is dumb as we clearly see it was him who did it. Jugz sent him flying once, one where he had his guard down and wasn't fighting which doesn't count and another that sent him back 10 feet. If that makes you stronger I guess US Agent is stronger than Ronan, Thing over Hulk, Spider-Man over Rhino, Wolverine over Roughouse etc.

What? no. Juggernaut was getting destroyed by Sasquatch until Heather and Mac told him to stop so he pauses and Jugz hits him once again with his guard down. Then later he charges at Jugz when he is upset with Sammy and pounds him into a bloody mess and that's when he wasn't fighting. I hope to god your not actually going to validate that fight. Did Mac or Heather fire any of their blasts, which would have stopped him? Nope. Did writer once again ignore the fact Mac has a shiled? yes. It was the Draco ark, even on the X-Men boards that's known as to be one of the worst written stories. Incredible.

Of course your not, you have verbally stated you don't like Sasquatch going Tanaraq at all. Alpha Flight Vol.1, Deadpool and even in Wolverine has said he is still connected to Tanaraq even in Snowbird's body. Hell Snowbird got possesses by Tanaraq twice just taking his form the same body Walter has now.

snoopdogg

King_Mungi

snoopdogg
I don't know but that website has in-depth issue summaries for every Alpha Flight comic there is. Alpha Flight.net can't even claim that.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I don't know but that website has in-depth issue summaries for every Alpha Flight comic there is. Alpha Flight.net can't even claim that.

and? anyone can submit a summary on that site by emailing the webmaster, or they did . I actually have the issues myself and posted the scans myself, and the fact is prior apperances of Alpha Flight contradict their appearances in the X-Men issues shown, shown by other scans I have posted all over this board.

So why are people using those two apperances as canon, while simplying ignoring all their past feats?

long pig
Haha....

Whoever said team are a bunch of dumbasses.

Foom could destroy the whole damn world if he wanted to like in FF. High-End magic+HIGH end strength/durability+high end acid/heat blasts=two dead hairy guys.

LordFear
Sabertooth is a non factor and in the end, FFF takes this. He is not given proper credit in recent years and unless Sas's other much stronger incarnation takes over, he is canadian bacon

snoopdogg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
and? anyone can submit a summary on that site by emailing the webmaster, or they did . I actually have the issues myself and posted the scans myself, and the fact is prior apperances of Alpha Flight contradict their appearances in the X-Men issues shown, shown by other scans I have posted all over this board.

So why are people using those two apperances as canon, while simplying ignoring all their past feats? If that fight was judged like a boxing match Juggy would have won. He had more knock downs and landed more blows.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by long pig
Haha....

Whoever said team are a bunch of dumbasses.

Foom could destroy the whole damn world if he wanted to like in FF. High-End magic+HIGH end strength/durability+high end acid/heat blasts=two dead hairy guys.

No one is debating that, Foom wins.

Originally posted by LordFear
Sabertooth is a non factor and in the end, FFF takes this. He is not given proper credit in recent years and unless Sas's other much stronger incarnation takes over, he is canadian bacon

Agreed, don't agree with Iron Man beating him. Bah!

Originally posted by snoopdogg
If that fight was judged like a boxing match Juggy would have won. He had more knock downs and landed more blows.

Yes and no, Sasquatch landed the biggest blow that did the most damage, then Jugz hit him with his guard down which would have been a DQ. Then afterwards they were very close. I even used the boxing system with you and the Colossus fight and you dismissed it.

juggernaut74
Actually the Colossus/Sasquatch fight is similar to the Sasquatch/Juggernaut fight. Colossus punched Walter, then Walter punched Colossus knocking him down. When Walter punched Juggy it did nothing really but when Juggy hit Walter he knocked Sasquatch down.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Actually the Colossus/Sasquatch fight is similar to the Sasquatch/Juggernaut fight. Colossus punched Walter, then Walter punched Colossus knocking him down. When Walter punched Juggy it did nothing really but when Juggy hit Walter he knocked Sasquatch down.

No it's not at all, as Sasquatch didn't get hurt from Colossus punches and literally toyed with him, by lifting him up into the air and putting his hand on his forehead while Colossus swing in the open air. There is no similarities at all. Are you nuts? did nothing, I guess you skipped the page showing Jugz face at the end of the fight didn't you?

juggernaut74
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No it's not at all, as Sasquatch didn't get hurt from Colossus punches and literally toyed with him, by lifting him up into the air and putting his hand on his forehead while Colossus swing in the open air. There is no similarities at all. Are you nuts? did nothing, I guess you skipped the page showing Jugz face at the end of the fight didn't you? Well Colossus didn't have the luxury of having somebody(Earthmover) help him during the fight though. Earthmovers blow hurt Juggernaut as you can see in the text of the comic. The last part of the fight was hardly even fair for Juggernaut cause Sasquatch punched him when he was getting up from Earthmovers blow.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Well Colossus didn't have the luxury of having somebody(Earthmover) help him during the fight though. Earthmovers blow hurt Juggernaut as you can see in the text of the comic. The last part of the fight was hardly even fair for Juggernaut cause Sasquatch punched him when he was getting up from Earthmovers blow.

Oh my god, Sasquatch got punched when his guard was down. When Sasquatch came back and pissed mind you they went shot for shot. It was Sasquatch's blow that caused the huge tremor. So it was fair when Juggernaut punched him when his guard was down? hypocritical at it's finest

I love to find why people think the golems are so strong? as Shaman has used various summons and they were never that truely impressive

juggernaut74
Sasquatches guard was down becasue of the blow they BOTH landed. It's not Juggernauts fault Walter has a weaker chin.

On the other hand Juggernaut was getting up from a blow that Sasquatch didn't even throw. How do you consider that the same?

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut74
Sasquatches guard was down becasue of the blow they BOTH landed. It's not Juggernauts fault Walter has a weaker chin.

On the other hand Juggernaut was getting up from a blow that Sasquatch didn't even throw. How do you consider that the same?

Actually no, images shows Sasquatch landing the blow and one sound text to indicate one punch. Weak chin? He has taken blows from Hercules and shrugged them off. My god.

What are you talking about? he did throw, and if you actually KNEW anything about Walter you would know he has taken worse and literally got up and continued fighting like nothing happened.

juggernaut74
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually no, images shows Sasquatch landing the blow and one sound text to indicate one punch. Weak chin? He has taken blows from Hercules and shrugged them off. My god.

What are you talking about? he did throw, and if you actually KNEW anything about Walter you would know he has taken worse and literally got up and continued fighting like nothing happened. They both landed bows when they charged each other. LOL. You're a funny dude I'll give ya that.

Ok, now listen carefully here. Sasquatch and Juggy charged each other and they BOTH landed blows. Juggy gets up first and finishes off Walt.

Ok from here Earthmover jumps in and smashes Cain pretty hard and he was reeling from the attack. When he starts to get up Walter punches him. Earthmover knocked Juggy down, then Sasquatch hits him when he is getting up. That's like you in a bar getting into a fight and your buddy knocks the guy down. Then you attack him after your buddy already knocked him down.

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut74
They both landed bows when they charged each other. LOL. You're a funny dude I'll give ya that.

Ok, now listen carefully here. Sasquatch and Juggy charged each other and they BOTH landed blows. Juggy gets up first and finishes off Walt.

Ok from here Earthmover jumps in and smashes Cain pretty hard and he was reeling from the attack. When he starts to get up Walter punches him. Earthmover knocked Juggy down, then Sasquatch hits him when he is getting up. That's like you in a bar getting into a fight and your buddy knocks the guy down. Then you attack him after your buddy already knocked him down.

Yet Juggernaut was not shown landing the blow.

Once again not shown or indicated as one sound text and Sasquatch landing the blow.

Same thing Jugz did to Walter, when Walter was getting up Jugz hits him and at that time he was saying hold up having his guard down. Why are you simply ignoring that? Plus all the other points I made pages ago. Also once again one punch from the stone golem would not rock Juggernaut seeing as if you actually read Alpha Flight you would know their not that tough at all. I love the fact your simply ignoring past Sasquatch's showings and ignoring how badly written this was and it was.

I'm heading to work , and most likely won't reply back till tommorow as I'm going to the bars afterwards.

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