Healing Factor Hierarchy.

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Grinning Goku
Aside from abstracts and cosmics, who has the fastest, most efficient healing factor?

My rough list would look a little like this:

1. Mr. Immortal/Iceman?
2. Classic Juggs?
3. Deadpool/Morph
4. Cassandra Nova
5. The Lizard
6. Deadgirl?
7. Current Wolverine?
8. Savage Hulk (enraged)/Beta Ray Bill/Thor/Hercules/Gladiator (confident)?
9. Abomination
10. Mr. Sinister
11. Wendigo/Sasquatch
12. Classic Wolverine w/o Adamantium
13. Sabretooth w/o Adamantium
14. Sabretooth/Classic Wolverine with Adamantium/The Native/
15. X-23/Angel
16. Lady Deathstrike
17. Wild Child
18. Omega Red
19. Classic Cyber
20. Mystique

Shit, that wore me out. Honorable mention: Spider-Man, Green Goblin, Luke Cage and anybody else I missed. Feel free to adjust the list as you see fit, so we can arrive at some consensus.

Galan007
Just Marvel?

SpunkySmurph
TOAA
Living Tribunal

Grinning Goku
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
TOAA
Living Tribunal

Aside from abstracts and cosmics

Grinning Goku
Double post. Sorry.

Grinning Goku
Originally posted by Galan007
Just Marvel?

Yes.

Galan007
Originally posted by Grinning Goku
Yes. Mr. Immortal? 313

Grinning Goku
OK. After him?

SpunkySmurph
Darwin?

Grinning Goku
Mebbe.

SpunkySmurph
Agent X

Grinning Goku
**** no.

Disappear
darwin seems like he'd have more of a pre-emptive healing ability, in that he changes before injury so as not to get hurt. so, as far as basic survival goes, he'd be tops. but not really as a healing factor, i wouldn't say.

mr. immortal just can't die permanently. he's still been busted up for lengths of time, like just before tricking maelstrom into committing suicide. killing himself would be an easy and efficient way to heal back to normal, but it's sort of a contingency the others don't have. again, for pure survival, he'd be up there.

iceman's another one where he can take damage and injury to no end, and "heal" from it. but it's not really a healing factor it's more of a conscious decision.

Grinning Goku
I'd say Darwin is in a class by himself.

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by Grinning Goku
**** no. He's higher then most people on your list.

He should be on par, or just below Deadpool.

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by Disappear
darwin seems like he'd have more of a pre-emptive healing ability, in that he changes before injury so as not to get hurt. so, as far as basic survival goes, he'd be tops. but not really as a healing factor, i wouldn't say. But, under the hypothetical situation that he could be hurt, I would think he would develop a stronger healing factor then nearly everybody on that list.

Disappear
i think they determined that deadpool's healing factor was marginally better than agent x's in cable & deadpool

anyway, darwin did heal/create himself a body after having turned into an energy being. that's a testament to his ability to heal, to some extent. it's just that that's the only time i'd ever seen darwin "injured" in any way.

SpunkySmurph
Then he should be at the top. smile

Too lazy to look it up, but does anybody remember the name of the leader of The Children of The Vault?

The one that was made of water. He had a top notch healing factor.

Also, Hydroman and Sandman should be at the top. smile

Creshosk
I think that comic book creators read these versus threads...

Darwin has the ability to heal damage before its sustained... that sounds like some of the taunts that people use against the wolverine supporters in certain threads.

You don't suppose that helped with the idea behind Darwin do you?

Disappear
i dont think people whose bodies dont heal by themselves, but rather through conscious effort, really qualify as having "healing factors."

darwin's body reacts to avoid injury, whereas those with healing factors' bodies react to repair injury. again, his only real "healing" feat was when he created a body for himself.

willRules
whoa why is the Lizard above Mr Sinister?

Grinning Goku
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Then he should be at the top. smile

Too lazy to look it up, but does anybody remember the name of the leader of The Children of The Vault?

The one that was made of water. He had a top notch healing factor.

Also, Hydroman and Sandman should be at the top. smile

Damn, I forgot those two. They're elementals and should be with Iceman.

Grinning Goku
Originally posted by willRules
whoa why is the Lizard above Mr Sinister?

I was really ****ing tired?

willRules
laughing

Galan007
Originally posted by Disappear
mr. immortal just can't die permanently. he's still been busted up for lengths of time Besides his inability to die, you know Mr. Immortal's healing factor is one of the best out there, right?




Check this out...


Mr. Immortal is crushed flat by Terminus's hands..... But he had already fully recovered by the time Terminus reopened his hands again, :

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_im48.jpg



Not too shabby imo.

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Galan007
Besides his inability to die, you know Mr. Immortal's healing factor is one of the best out there, right?




Check this out...


Mr. Immortal is crushed flat by Terminus's hands..... But he had already fully recovered by the time Terminus reopened his hands again, :

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_im48.jpg



Not too shabby imo.

Well after looking through the RespectThread it seems his HF doesn't really activate until he dies. There's a scene where he sticks his foot through plasma and it doesn't heal at all.

Galan007
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well after looking through the RespectThread it seems his HF doesn't really activate until he dies. There's a scene where he sticks his foot through plasma and it doesn't heal at all. Or there's this instance, where he heals almost instantly:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_im14.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_im15.jpg

Mr Master
The Fury is up there,

and if sufficiently damaged,

it can regenerate by absorbing any kind of substance.

I'm not sure that's a healing factor though.

Mr Immortal may be #1 without a doubt though, he's meant to outlive the Abstracts, at all costs.

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Fury is up there,

and if sufficiently damaged,

it can regenerate by absorbing any kind of substance.

I'm not sure that's a healing factor though. I guess it could be. srug

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Galan007
Or there's this instance, where he heals almost instantly:

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_im14.jpg http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u43/Galan007/th_im15.jpg

That was almost certainly a killing shot though.

Symmetric Chaos
I'm bored. How high would something like this put you?

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t49/SymmetricChaos/Imfine.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That was almost certainly a killing shot though. He never appeared to die, but rather just recover at a sickening rate...



Mr. Immortal wields the "Bad Mother F*cker" Wallet. big grin

darthgoober
I think Evil Ernie definitely deserves to make the list...

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4795/10azw3.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1364/10blo4.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/3635/10cnc1.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by darthgoober
I think Evil Ernie definitely deserves to make the list...

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4795/10azw3.jpg
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1364/10blo4.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/3635/10cnc1.jpg Badass!

Galan007
Originally posted by Mr Master
Mr Immortal may be #1 without a doubt though, he's meant to outlive the Abstracts, at all costs. It's between him, Resurrection Man, and Lobo for sure.

SpunkySmurph
Dead Girl should be higher.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/Dead%20Girl/xf126p20.jpg

Galan007
Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Dead Girl should be higher.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/SpunkySmurph/Marvel/Scans/Dead%20Girl/xf126p20.jpg Hmm,

She seems around Deadpool level imo:

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/335/cd005081vn.th.jpg http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4969/cd005094kn.th.jpg http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5064/cd00510116dm.th.jpg http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5686/cd005120dr.th.jpg

MightyEInherjar
I think that list has durability and healing factor messed up..

capt it up
why is the list so bad.............

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by capt it up
why is the list so bad.............

I'll revise it for you.

BoneClawWolverine
Wolverine

. . .

Everyone else


stick out tongue

capt it up
actaully current wolverine>>>Bone claws...............fish boy

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by capt it up
actaully current wolverine>>>Bone claws...............fish boy

confused Fish boy?

Galan007
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
confused Fish boy? Yeah,

You just got pwned biatch!!!









stick out tongue

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah,

You just got pwned biatch!!!

But really.

Fish boy? huh Is it some sort of insult in Wolverinese or something?

Galan007
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But really.

Fish boy? huh Is it some sort of insult in Wolverinese or something? I dunt know. confused


he could have called you "bub" or something, and it would have been a little more enjoyable... rolling on floor laughing

capt it up
it was a joke.............honestly.

llagrok
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
confused Fish boy?

Owned

Capt it up styyyyle

Juntai
lobo?

willRules
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But really.

Fish boy? huh Is it some sort of insult in Wolverinese or something?

Look on the bright side, if he called you lizard boy or fish girl, then you'd be really upset yes

Avalonofthewind
Henshaw...the guys come back from Superman, Parallax, Darkseid, The Source, Black holes..etc.

Jimmy Buggs
Dude Hulk has to be the number one for Healing factor. Ice man can regen. but thats not really healing factor is it?

willRules
Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
Dude Hulk has to be the number one for Healing factor. Ice man can regen. but thats not really healing factor is it?

Sinister's is as least as good as Hulk's, plus it doesn't require him to revert to monster to do it yes

Galan007
Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
Dude Hulk has to be the number one for Healing factor. No way in hell, is Hulk number 1. erm

willRules
Originally posted by Grinning Goku
1. Mr. Immortal/Iceman?
2. Classic Juggs?
3. Deadpool/Morph
4. Cassandra Nova
5. The Lizard
6. Deadgirl?
7. Current Wolverine?
8. Savage Hulk (enraged)/Beta Ray Bill/Thor/Hercules/Gladiator (confident)?
9. Abomination
10. Mr. Sinister
11. Wendigo/Sasquatch
12. Classic Wolverine w/o Adamantium
13. Sabretooth w/o Adamantium
14. Sabretooth/Classic Wolverine with Adamantium/The Native/
15. X-23/Angel
16. Lady Deathstrike
17. Wild Child
18. Omega Red
19. Classic Cyber
20. Mystique

IMO the list should be like this......

1. Mr Immortal/Iceman (If they count)
2. Classic Juggs
3. Mr Sinister
4. Deadpool/Morph
5. Hulk
6. Abomination
7. Deadgirl
8. Wolverine without adamantium
9. Sabretooth without adamantium (Maybe swap 8 and 9 around)
10.Sabretooth with adamantium
11. Wolverine with adamantium/current wolverine
12. X23/Angel
13. The Lizard
14. Lady Deathstrike
15. Wild Child
16. Cassandra Nova
17. Omega Red
18. Classic Cyber
19. Mystique


I have no 20th spot as I grouped current Wolverine with Wolverine with adamantium yes I am also in doubt as to if classic juggernaut should be that high as he could be considered more invulnerable than anything else erm

But that's just my opinion stick out tongue

jrodslam
Omega Red should be higher up on everyones list. His healing factor is slightly below Wolverine level imo, and when he uses the Death Factor, its greater than Wolverines.

willRules
Good point yes

Nikkolas
Maestro regenerated from non-existence, didn't he?

Symmetric Chaos
That was Darwin I think.

llagrok
X-23 heals pretty good doesn't she? heals a snapped neck in seconds and such.

willRules
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That was Darwin I think.

Yeah on my list as cool as Darwin is, he would be up there at the #1 with those other P.I.S characters yes

Galan007
Originally posted by willRules
1. Mr Immortal/Iceman (If they count) I highly disagree with Iceman being tied with Mr. Immortal for #1. ermm

willRules
Originally posted by Galan007
I highly disagree with Iceman being tied with Mr. Immortal for #1. ermm

Well can't he do the whole "Turning into vapour, shoot holes right through my chest but it doesn't matter cos I'm made of ice" thing?

Galan007
Originally posted by willRules
Well can't he do the whole "Turning into vapour, shoot holes right through my chest but it doesn't matter cos I'm made of ice" thing? Sure, but Mr. I will be here to see the end of the known Universe, he alone will know it's final secrets...


Can Iceman boast anything like that?

Mr Master
I forgot all about the classic Eternals.

They can regenerate from the atomic state.

I have this issue where Blastaar obliterates them to less than dust, all the relevant members in fact, they get atomized, towards the end of the issue they completely reform, all of them from seemingly nothingness.

So props to the Eternals on the healing factor tip.

willRules
Originally posted by Galan007
Sure, but Mr. I will be here to see the end of the known Universe, he alone will know it's final secrets...


Can Iceman boast anything like that?

Nope, but I'm not saying their joint first or anything, just that they are in the rough no #1 position of my list smile

Galan007
Originally posted by willRules
Nope, but I'm not saying their joint first or anything, just that they are in the rough no #1 position of my list smile Maybe they share the top tier,

But in that top tier, Mr. Immortal is still well above Iceman, . smile

willRules
Fair enough smile

Martian_mind
I dunno about Mr M being in the top-top tier,i mean if u raped his mind wouldn't he spend eternity as a vegetable?

Symmetric Chaos
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I dunno about Mr M being in the top-top tier,i mean if u raped his mind wouldn't he spend eternity as a vegetable?

no expression

llagrok
Originally posted by Martian_mind
I dunno about Mr M being in the top-top tier,i mean if u raped his mind wouldn't he spend eternity as a vegetable?

Until someone killed him, then he would heal up.

Galan007
Swamp Thing should definitely be at/near the #1 spot, as well. big grin

Endless Mike
I agree with Swamp Thing

Grinning Goku
Bump.

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