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This is current nova vs classic thor (hammer, strength, lightning, godblast)

thor

I dont know if its that clear, current Nova is rumored to be class 100 with incredable energy wielding abilities

Originally posted by norrinradd43
I dont know if its that clear, current Nova is rumored to be class 100 with incredable energy wielding abilities

thor ftw

Nova wins. He's on a level above the conventional top tiers like Thor and Superman IMO.

Originally posted by Photon009
Nova wins. He's on a level above the conventional top tiers like Thor and Superman IMO.

What has he done to make you believe that?

Originally posted by Photon009
Nova wins. He's on a level above the conventional top tiers like Thor and Superman IMO.

Thor has faught Celestials

Originally posted by His Airness
What has he done to make you believe that?

Beat Annihilus, who owned Quasar without breaking a sweat and also one-shotted Phyla with the Q-Bands. Shielded himself and Phyla and Peter Quill also from Galactus' big star system-destroying blast. Being off the scale in Power according to Iron Man. One-shotting PlanetFall (the name explains how powerful he is). Being described by Annihilus to, even when Nova was very new and inexperienced with his power, more powerful than Quasar. Need i go on?

One more thing. Back when Garthaan Saal had the EXACT SAME POWER as Nova has now, he took on the combined forces of the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and many others and held his own. Among the ranks were many big guns such as Wonder Man, Firelord, Thor, Quasar, Spikey Thing, Iron Man, etc

Originally posted by Photon009
Beat Annihilus, who owned Quasar without breaking a sweat and also one-shotted Phyla with the Q-Bands. Shielded himself and Phyla and Peter Quill also from Galactus' big star system-destroying blast. Being off the scale in Power according to Iron Man. One-shotting PlanetFall (the name explains how powerful he is). Being described by Annihilus to, even when Nova was very new and inexperienced with his power, more powerful than Quasar. Need i go on?

One more thing. Back when Garthaan Saal had the EXACT SAME POWER as Nova has now, he took on the combined forces of the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and many others and held his own. Among the ranks were many big guns such as Wonder Man, Firelord, Thor, Quasar, Spikey Thing, Iron Man, etc

good god. does anyone have scans of that?

Originally posted by Photon009
Beat Annihilus, who owned Quasar without breaking a sweat and also one-shotted Phyla with the Q-Bands. Shielded himself and Phyla and Peter Quill also from Galactus' big star system-destroying blast. Being off the scale in Power according to Iron Man. One-shotting PlanetFall (the name explains how powerful he is). Being described by Annihilus to, even when Nova was very new and inexperienced with his power, more powerful than Quasar. Need i go on?

One more thing. Back when Garthaan Saal had the EXACT SAME POWER as Nova has now, he took on the combined forces of the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and many others and held his own. Among the ranks were many big guns such as Wonder Man, Firelord, Thor, Quasar, Spikey Thing, Iron Man, etc

Nova had outside help when he fought Annhilus. Annihilus was actually owning the shit out of Nova before their fight was interrupted.

Off the scale according to Iron Man...

your whole post =

Originally posted by Photon009
Beat Annihilus He got his ass kicked, and then finally exploited a weakness, that shouldn't even be a feat for Nova...

Originally posted by Space M ummy
good god. does anyone have scans of that?

Off the scales according to Iron Man:
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/4eLN/view-image/nova-v-4--01-page-23.html

One-shotting PlanetFall:
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/4eL8/view-image/nova-v-4--01-page-08.html

Fighting Annihilus. Note: Nova was losing, to Annihilus yes, but only because Annihilus had the Q-Bands on top of his own massive power. The feats of Annihilus i stated such as one-shotting Phyla (shown here) and killing Quasar easily, were from Annihilus without the Q-Bands.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/13-5.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/14-5.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/15-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/16-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/17-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/18-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/19-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/20-2.jpg

Survives Galactus' big star-system-destroying blast:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/5-6.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/6-5.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/7-5.jpg

Here's what Annihilus is capable of. Killing Quasar without breaking a sweat:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page19.jpg

Annihilus says Nova's power is much more bright and appetizing than Quasar's:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page12.jpg

Originally posted by Photon009
Off the scales according to Iron Man:
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/4eLN/view-image/nova-v-4--01-page-23.html

One-shotting PlanetFall:
http://i84.imagethrust.com/images/4eL8/view-image/nova-v-4--01-page-08.html

Fighting Annihilus. Note: Nova was losing, to Annihilus yes, but only because Annihilus had the Q-Bands on top of his own massive power. The feats of Annihilus i stated such as one-shotting Phyla (shown here) and killing Quasar easily, were from Annihilus without the Q-Bands.
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/13-5.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/14-5.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/15-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/16-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/17-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/18-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/19-4.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/20-2.jpg

Survives Galactus' big star-system-destroying blast:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/5-6.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/6-5.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a366/juggernaut66666/7-5.jpg

Here's what Annihilus is capable of. Killing Quasar without breaking a sweat:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page17.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page18.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page19.jpg

Annihilus says Nova's power is much more bright and appetizing than Quasar's:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Annihalation-Nova04page12.jpg

very nice scans. If you have any more of nova, please show.

Originally posted by carver9
very nice scans. If you have any more of nova, please show.

i second that

Thor wins, Thor fight cosmic beings that will sh** on Nova. Thor 10/10

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor wins, Thor fight cosmic beings that will sh** on Nova. Thor 10/10

Thor do fight some powerful people but i think this would be a good fight. 50/50

Thor has more experience, and the hammer can manipulate all forms of energy.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor has more experience, and the hammer can manipulate all forms of energy.

You do know that nova absorb energy right. Well i guess thor will be feeding nova making him stronger.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know that nova absorb energy right. Well i guess thor will be feeding nova making him stronger.


Thor will over load him which he has done before, Thor hammer can produce solar flare that is 10x more powerful than earth sun. Our Thor can absorb nova force right out Nova, Thor hammer has absorb feats that are sick the hammer absorbed energy blast that would have destroyed 1/5 of the Universe.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor will over load him which he has done before, Thor hammer can produce solar flare that is 10x more powerful than earth sun. Our Thor can absorb nova force right out Nova, Thor hammer has absorb feats that are sick the hammer absorbed energy blast that would have destroyed 1/5 of the Universe.

I know everything about thor. He is like my favorite hero right now but I still see nova winning some. This isnt superman, nova control energy on a level that is unbelievable. Thor is going to win some but he would also lose some due to nova just being a step below him in power, just not enough to make a difference.

Thor will crack Nova twice with the hammer and then it's lights out. Nova needs better victories he barely beat Annhlius.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor will crack Nova twice with the hammer and then it's lights out. Nova needs better victories he barely beat Annhlius.

The fight wont be that easy. Sorry. The other person is fighting back.

don't get me wrong I like Nova but he is not there yet, Thor is top tier until Nova goes head up with Silver Surfer, Thor, Classic Quasar then we can talk he could barely handled annilhus, but one thing I want Nova to thrash The thunderbolts with extreme prejudice.

The thunderbolts have a grade A ass beating coming from nova...I really like how marvel has moved nova up in the world...before he was just a glorified cannonball in a cool outfit...now he has powers that fit his name

Thor for the easy win

Nova was able to shield himself from one of the most powerful blasts galactus ever let out which is probably more power than thor can muster....plus nova could probably dodge mjolnir I think nova wins 7/10

Originally posted by norrinradd43
The thunderbolts have a grade A ass beating coming from nova...I really like how marvel has moved nova up in the world...before he was just a glorified cannonball in a cool outfit...now he has powers that fit his name

I'm pretty sure Nova came before Cannonball, mid 70's as I have some of his first solo run from 77 I think.

Cannonball was new mutants which was mid 80's IIRC.

And he was Nova the human rocket then, so the name did fit the character pretty well at the time.

I liked how he took it to Diamond Head in the last issue and diposed of him within a panel, all the beatings Nova took from Diamond Head back in the day it was nice for me to see that!

As for the fight, Rich still has yet to go all out, Super Nova who had the same power as him was indeed holding his own against the FF, Avengers West, Avengers East and Firelord.

But Rich isn't insane like him, given time this fight could be different but right now, I say Thor can take it.

First off this whole thread and the majority of the people posting in it equate to this. =

Originally posted by carver9
I know everything about thor. He is like my favorite hero right now but I still see nova winning some. This isnt superman, nova control energy on a level that is unbelievable. Thor is going to win some but he would also lose some due to nova just being a step below him in power, just not enough to make a difference.

Your knowledge of Thor equals nothing.

The guy admittedly said that he was inferior to heralds, and his energy manipulation feats equate to little.

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Nova was able to shield himself from one of the most powerful blasts galactus ever let out which is probably more power than thor can muster....plus nova could probably dodge mjolnir I think nova wins 7/10

Galactus most powerful blast? All he did was destroy a few star systems, a little more than a Galaxy. Far from Galactus most powerful blast.

Nova could dodge Mjolnir? Since when did Nova get ftl refelxes?

Crack Nova twice and it's lights out? Nova was hit with a f'in multiple star-system destroying blast that was felt across the universe and was for the most part okay, yet you think Mjolnir would knock him out in 2 strikes? You're crazy.

A high-powered Annihilus, who beat herald level beings such as Quasar and Phyla with the Q-Bands in a matter of a page without breaking a sweat. Nova beat that guy who killed Quasar with ease. That's impressive, whether he barely managed to beat him or not.



Okay, Annihilus owned the shit out of Quasar himself, and Nova beat Annihilus. Annihilus also one-shotted Phyla whose around Thor/Surfer level without the Q-Bands, so with the Q-Bands she's powerful as hell. Nova is more powerful than Thor/Surfer, etc, the only thing that hurts him is he's not that experienced with all this power.



Thor has admitted to be inferior to Firelord on more than occasion first off. Secondly, Nova only said the heralds were the only ones who could match Ravenous' power because Nova didnt want to have to go all out because he didnt want to go nuts again. That's why he was holding back throughout the entire mainstream Annihilation series until the last issue when he fought (and killed) Annihilus. Nova is actually more powerful than those heralds which was clearly shown, he just was scared to go all out and lose control again like he did in his mini. And he was very impressive energy feats for a character with such a small amount of appearances.



Um, that was EASILY Galactus' most powerful blast he ever let out. Look at what Surfer showed. Characters all around the universe, light years and Galaxies away were feeling that blast. The blast was felt all the way across the universe, and destroyed multiple star systems. The only blast Galactus has ever let out that even comes close to that is destroying one galaxy when fighting Tyrant. And Nova survived that blast, as well as shielded Phyla and Peter Quill from it as well.



Dude, Nova flies so fast that he rips portals (aka stargates) through the fabric of space. I dont doubt that Thor could nail Nova with Mjolnir, but it wouldnt be easy by any means, it would be very difficult.

Nova wins a solid majority.

Originally posted by Photon009
Beat Annihilus, who owned Quasar without breaking a sweat and also one-shotted Phyla with the Q-Bands. Shielded himself and Phyla and Peter Quill also from Galactus' big star system-destroying blast. Being off the scale in Power according to Iron Man. One-shotting PlanetFall (the name explains how powerful he is). Being described by Annihilus to, even when Nova was very new and inexperienced with his power, more powerful than Quasar. Need i go on?

One more thing. Back when Garthaan Saal had the EXACT SAME POWER as Nova has now, he took on the combined forces of the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and many others and held his own. Among the ranks were many big guns such as Wonder Man, Firelord, Thor, Quasar, Spikey Thing, Iron Man, etc

Iron Man, Thing and Wonder man aren't big guns.

Thor takes this.

Originally posted by llagrok
Iron Man, Thing and Wonder man aren't big guns.

Thor takes this.

Iron Man is a big gun, not really in power, but in resourcefulness and helpfulness in a battle yes he is always a big factor. Wonder Man is probably in the Top 5 strongest Avengers ever, only below Thor, Sentry, Hercules, and maybe one or two more Avengers. So yes Wonder Man IS a big gun also. And at the time when Thing was all Spikey and even more mutated, he was performing Hulk-level feats left and right, such as throwing a bomb into the stratosphere or beating the Gray Hulk for example. So yes those 3 are big guns.

And on top of that there's no arguing that Firelord, Thor, and Quasar are some of the biggest guns you can get on a hero team. And all 3 were there and could barely damage Super Nova.

Thor is light years ahead of Nova in all around abilities, it still doesn't change that Nova with his upgrade couldn't handle Annhlius if it wasn't for Phyla interfering like she did Annhlius would have absorbed Nova also. Nova has really fought anybody of Thor, Silver Surfer, caliber he has great potential but he not there yet, Thor will still take the overwhelming majority from Nova. Thor 7/10

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor is light years ahead of Nova in all around abilities, it still doesn't change that Nova with his upgrade couldn't handle Annhlius if it wasn't for Phyla interfering like she did Annhlius would have absorbed Nova also. Nova has really fought anybody of Thor, Silver Surfer, caliber he has great potential but he not there yet, Thor will still take the overwhelming majority from Nova. Thor 7/10

The new, powered up Annihilus from Annihilation >>>>>>>>> Thor. Your whole post is laughable.

Originally posted by Photon009
The new, powered up Annihilus from Annihilation >>>>>>>>> Thor. My whole post is laughable.


Annihilus wouldn't be greater than Thor, dude Thor and Quasar fought before and stalemated each other, Thor Annihilus would stalemate each other both have great energy absorption feats. Annihhilus with quantum bands would be at Silver Surfer level/ Thor, since Silver Surfer and Annihilus never fought we will never know.

But putting Nova at Thor/Silver Surfer level is prematurely let's see what he is made of first before before throwing him in battles with top tiesr with feats on top feats, I like Nova like I said he's not there yet.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Annihilus wouldn't be greater than Thor, dude Thor and Quasar fought before and stalemated each other, Thor Annihilus would stalemate each other both have great energy absorption feats. Annihhilus with quantum bands would be at Silver Surfer level/ Thor, since Silver Surfer and Annihilus never fought we will never know.

But putting Nova at Thor/Silver Surfer level is prematurely let's see what he is made of first before before throwing him in battles with top tiesr with feats on top feats, I like Nova like I said he's not there yet.

Dude did you even read Annihilation? Cause it doesnt seem like it. Yes, Thor and Quasar have fought before and stalemated. Also, in Avengers Infinity Quasar was referred to as being more powerful than Thor. And ANNIHILUS COMPLETELY OWNED QUASAR, killed him with extreme ease, without even breaking a sweat. Thor would get killed just as if not easier than Quasar did by Annihilus. And Annihilus with the Quantum Bands was more around Thanos-level than herald level, hell, Annihilus without the Q-Bands was even way over herald level doing shit like killing Quasar with ease whose on par with Surfer and one-shotting Phyla w/ the Q-Bands whose also around that level. And Nova beat Annihilus once he got rid of the Q-Bands Also, Annihilus' lackey, Ravenous, was giving Surfer quite a bit of trouble on his own much less Annihilus himself. And back when Nova had the full Nova force years ago, he beat the shit out of Air-Walker Robot and then tussled with Firelord a little bit and was shown superior, not to mention the Garthaan Saal feats of holding his own against Thor, Firelord, Quasar, and the Avengers and FF all at the same time. Nova > Thor. End of story.

I can't believe people are actually using that Nova/Annihilus fight as evidence...
Unless Thor has a massively gaping mouth, that fight is completely irrelevent, because Nova did nothing to Annihilus, except plot-device him.

Originally posted by Photon009
Dude did you even read Annihilation? Cause it doesnt seem like it. Yes, Thor and Quasar have fought before and stalemated. Also, in Avengers Infinity Quasar was referred to as being more powerful than Thor. And ANNIHILUS COMPLETELY OWNED QUASAR, killed him with extreme ease, without even breaking a sweat. Thor would get killed just as if not easier than Quasar did by Annihilus. And Annihilus with the Quantum Bands was more around Thanos-level than herald level, hell, Annihilus without the Q-Bands was even way over herald level doing shit like killing Quasar with ease whose on par with Surfer and one-shotting Phyla w/ the Q-Bands whose also around that level. And Nova beat Annihilus once he got rid of the Q-Bands Also, Annihilus' lackey, Ravenous, was giving Surfer quite a bit of trouble on his own much less Annihilus himself. And back when Nova had the full Nova force years ago, he beat the shit out of Air-Walker Robot and then tussled with Firelord a little bit and was shown superior, not to mention the Garthaan Saal feats of holding his own against Thor, Firelord, Quasar, and the Avengers and FF all at the same time. Nova > Thor. End of story.

Dude I have the whole story, let's don't insults now that is plain childish.


Dud are you f**king serious Nova is no where >>>> than Thor you are smoking, Thor has fought sky-fathers, god killers, cosmic beings let's dont start that bullsh**. Thor fought Sutur who will eat Nova like a butterfinger, Thor fighting Ego, Galactus, Celestails, Destroyer, Mangog etc the list goes on, I can name handful of beings that Thor has fought and beaten that will open can of whoop a$$ on him please. And it's not the end of the story.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I can't believe people are actually using that Nova/Annihilus fight as evidence...
Unless Thor has a massively gaping mouth, that fight is completely irrelevent, because Nova did nothing to Annihilus, except plot-device him.

Hello, like I'm saying let's wait and see. Nova will still get smoke by classic quasar and other top tiers.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Dude I have the whole story, let's don't insults now that is plain childish.


Dud are you f**king serious Nova is no where >>>> than Thor you are smoking, Thor has fought sky-fathers, god killers, cosmic beings let's dont start that bullsh**. Thor fought Sutur who will eat Nova like a butterfinger, Thor fighting Ego, Galactus, Celestails, Destroyer, Mangog etc the list goes on, I can name handful of beings that Thor has fought and beaten that will open can of whoop a$$ on him please. And it's not the end of the story.

Ego sucks.
Destroyer sucks.
Thor needed the godblast against a dying-of-hunger Galactus.
Thor needed the godblast against Exitar the celestial.
Thor needed the godblast to beat Mangog the one time he won. All the other times Thor gets his ass kicked.

Nova wins. Really, it's not even worth debating anymore you're too hardheaded.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Hello, like I'm saying let's wait and see. Nova will still get smoke by classic quasar and other top tiers.

Dude what dont you understand about this?

-Annihilus owned Quasar badly. Killed him in one page.
-Nova killed that very same Annihilus.

Explain to me how that means Quasar would beat Nova because it doesnt make any sense to me.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I can't believe people are actually using that Nova/Annihilus fight as evidence...
Unless Thor has a massively gaping mouth, that fight is completely irrelevent, because Nova did nothing to Annihilus, except plot-device him.
To be fair, theres only one person in here saying Nova wins.

Originally posted by Photon009
Ego sucks.
Destroyer sucks.
Thor needed the godblast against a dying-of-hunger Galactus.
Thor needed the godblast against Exitar the celestial.
Thor needed the godblast to beat Mangog the one time he won. All the other times Thor gets his ass kicked.

Nova wins. Really, it's not even worth debating anymore you're too hardheaded.
Your logic doesn't make any sense.

dude you are f**king childish, everybody is picking Thor it's for a reason.

I think Nova can take this.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Your logic doesn't make any sense.

dude you are f**king childish, everybody is picking Thor it's for a reason.

I'm childish? You're the one who just said a few posts ago not to start with the insults because it's immature and whatnot, and now you're the one throwing out the insults.

And just because the majority of fans agree doesnt mean jack shit in actual comics. 99% of all fans could say Thor wins, but if a writer wanted to, they could still have Nova wipe the floor with Thor if they wanted. Fans' opinions dont mean much so i dont care what the majority of people agree with or disagree with.

Originally posted by Photon009
Dude what dont you understand about this?

-Annihilus owned Quasar badly. Killed him in one page.
-Nova killed that very same Annihilus.

Explain to me how that means Quasar would beat Nova because it doesnt make any sense to me.

Quasar will absorb all the Nova force out of him, dude Quasar is top energy absorber like Thor/Silver Surfer/Annihilus.


Nova killed Annihilus who didn't have the quantum bands, nice try. If Annihilus would have kept the quatum bands the fight would have been over in half page.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Quasar will absorb all the Nova force out of him, dude Quasar is top energy absorber like Thor/Silver Surfer/Annihilus.


Nova killed Annihilus who didn't have the quantum bands, nice try. If Annihilus would have kept the quatum bands the fight would have been over in half page. quasar cant hang with supernova, niether can surfer, and annihilus was soooo powered up it aint even funny.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Quasar will absorb all the Nova force out of him, dude Quasar is top energy absorber like Thor/Silver Surfer/Annihilus.


Nova killed Annihilus who didn't have the quantum bands, nice try. If Annihilus would have kept the quatum bands the fight would have been in half page.

LMFAO!!!

First off, try and prove he can absorb the Nova Force out of him. I'll tell you right now that he cant. The Worldmind doesnt allow it, Annihilus tried and failed thanks to massive feedback from the Worldmind. And Annihilus proved to be far far superior to Quasar. So if Annihilus cant, Quasar damn sure cant.

Secondly, Annihilus did have the Q-Bands for a handful of pages when he fought Nova and the fight was still going on. So much for half a page. And Annihilus lost to Nova when he didnt have the Q-Bands yea, but that was the same Annihilus that killed Quasar with ease, he didnt have the Q-Bands yet cause, y'know, THEY WERE ON QUASAR.

Originally posted by King KAM
quasar cant hang with supernova, niether can surfer, and annihilus was soooo powered up it aint even funny.


Your not even understanding what I'm saying, Nova didn't show he is in (new)silver surfer league, annihilus was more powerful with the quantum bands but he not beyond silver surfer or thor. It still doesn't change the fact that Nova couldn't beat Annihilus w/QB if it wasn't for phyla Nova would have been killed.

Originally posted by Validus
To be fair, theres only one person in here saying Nova wins.

agreed,.

Originally posted by the Darkone
annihilus was more powerful with the quantum bands but he not beyond silver surfer or thor

Yes, he is. Far beyond.

Originally posted by Validus
To be fair, theres only one person in here saying Nova wins.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=62584
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=101486
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Originally posted by the Darkone
Your not even understanding what I'm saying, Nova didn't show he is in (new)silver surfer league, annihilus was more powerful with the quantum bands but he not beyond silver surfer or thor. It still doesn't change the fact that Nova couldn't beat Annihilus w/QB if it wasn't for phyla Nova would have been killed. annihilus made Quasar look pathetic....surfer aint never...EVER done that.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Your not even understanding what I'm saying, Nova didn't show he is in (new)silver surfer league, annihilus was more powerful with the quantum bands but he not beyond silver surfer or thor. It still doesn't change the fact that Nova couldn't beat Annihilus w/QB if it wasn't for phyla Nova would have been killed. Annihillus with q bands was beyond thor but not silver surfer...SS is still above Nova in my opinion...But i do think that Nova takes a 75% majority over classic thor

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Annihillus with q bands was beyond thor but not silver surfer...SS is still above Nova in my opinion...But i do think that Nova takes a 75% majority over classic thor


Classic Thor hell no, I can see Nova beating Eric Materson Thor not donald Blake Thor or Olsen Thor. SS and Thor are equals, Nova is not on that level yet, Thor has to much feats for Nova all of sudden take on Thor.

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Originally posted by Photon009
Dude what dont you understand about this?

-Annihilus owned Quasar badly. Killed him in one page.
-Nova killed that very same Annihilus.

Explain to me how that means Quasar would beat Nova because it doesnt make any sense to me.

Because Annihilus barely survived that big ass blast from a weakened Galactus, and expended an assload of energy doing it. He was basically using the Q-bands for extra power. Which means once Phyla took them from him, he was running on fumes. So Nova beat a heavily weakened Annihilus. There, was that so hard?


Given some time, Nova can beat Thor. At the moment? Not for a majority. He's still too green with the Nova Force.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Because Annihilus barely survived that big ass blast from a weakened Galactus, and expended an assload of energy doing it. He was basically using the Q-bands for extra power. Which means once Phyla took them from him, he was running on fumes. So Nova beat a heavily weakened Annihilus. There, was that so hard?


Given some time, Nova can beat Thor. At the moment? Not for a majority. He's still too green with the Nova Force.

Wrong again. Nova has done nothing to suggest that he'd even pose a threat to Thor.

I'm basing his being a threat on Super Nova's performance. Potentially, he is capable of reaching that level. But so far? No, he's not that good yet.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Because Annihilus barely survived that big ass blast from a weakened Galactus, and expended an assload of energy doing it. He was basically using the Q-bands for extra power. Which means once Phyla took them from him, he was running on fumes. So Nova beat a heavily weakened Annihilus. There, was that so hard?

Except, you know, NOVA WAS HIT WITH THE SAME GALACTUS BLAST THAT HIT ANNIHILUS, and on top of himself, Nova also protected Phyla and Peter Quill, so the excuse of Annihilus being weakened simply doesnt work.

Originally posted by Photon009
Except, you know, NOVA WAS HIT WITH THE SAME GALACTUS BLAST THAT HIT ANNIHILUS, and on top of himself, Nova also protected Phyla and Peter Quill, so the excuse of Annihilus being weakened simply doesnt work. Annil didn't protect himself though, and was almost right at ground zero...

Also, the Nova fight, was nothing for Nova to be bragging about. All he did, was stick his hand in his big gaping mouth... something Thor doesn't have. Other than that, he got his ass kicked.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Annil didn't protect himself though, and was almost right at ground zero...

Also, the Nova fight, was nothing for Nova to be bragging about. All he did, was stick his hand in his big gaping mouth... something Thor doesn't have. Other than that, he got his ass kicked.


YOu forgeot Nova was in the ICU for a while, Thor would have put his a$$ in a coma if he fought Thor like that.

Originally posted by His Airness
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Damn another one , this should a law against fanboys. A three strike rule or smoething.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Annil didn't protect himself though, and was almost right at ground zero...

Also, the Nova fight, was nothing for Nova to be bragging about. All he did, was stick his hand in his big gaping mouth... something Thor doesn't have. Other than that, he got his ass kicked.

Nova beating Annihilus, no matter how, as long as it's under his own power, which it was, is very impressive, considering Annihilus (WITHOUT THE Q-BANDS) killed Quasar with ease, and one-shotted Phyla even after she stole the Q-Bands from him.

And Nova was nearby also, and wasnt shown putting a shield up either. Neither Nova nor Annihilus were shown with shields up.

And just for the record im not a fanboy at all, im just stating facts that others such as Darkone either ignore or are just too stupid to see.

Originally posted by Photon009
Nova beating Annihilus, no matter how, as long as it's under his own power, which it was, is very impressive, considering Annihilus (WITHOUT THE Q-BANDS) killed Quasar with ease, and one-shotted Phyla even after she stole the Q-Bands from him.

And Nova was nearby also, and wasnt shown putting a shield up either. Neither Nova nor Annihilus were shown with shields up. He beat him by a plot-device, not by being more powerful, or even close to being as powerful. It's not that impressive, just a cool feat.

But... you just said Nova shielded himself from the blast...Originally posted by Photon009
Except, you know, NOVA WAS HIT WITH THE SAME GALACTUS BLAST THAT HIT ANNIHILUS, and on top of himself, Nova also protected Phyla and Peter Quill, so the excuse of Annihilus being weakened simply doesnt work.

This is so sad, Nova barely beaten Annihilus and now all of sudden he can battle Thor in head to head battle that is down right ridiculous. Nova is not strong enough or durable enough to take on Thor in a all out battle, until I see him battled and stalemate Silver Surfer or other top tiers he still got a lot aways to go.

i think nova is very powerful but thor has way more experience and like annihilus was amped up for this story. i think thor would win this now. but i could nova becoming really powerful in the future with writers so this could change. i see thor taking 6 of 10 now.

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Originally posted by guy222
thor Yeah. I agree with boobs, I mean guy.

Throb should be able to, I mean Thor should be able to beat Nipples, I mean Nova.

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Originally posted by the Darkone
This is so sad, Nova barely beaten Annihilus and now all of sudden he can battle Thor in head to head battle that is down right ridiculous. Nova is not strong enough or durable enough to take on Thor in a all out battle, until I see him battled and stalemate Silver Surfer or other top tiers he still got a lot aways to go.

Well, the thing is, Surfer should beat Thor just about every time too, unless Thor gets in one of his overpowered Hammer attacks. Beta Ray Bill's status opposite Thor is always hotly debated, but I don't think anyone would argue their physical stats are at vastly different levels.. Yet, Thor can tank Surfers attacks, while Bill gets put down rather easily? IMO, that's less because of Thor's power levels, and more because of internal politics.. Thor's a flagship character, and Bill is not, so Thor will hold his own while Bill won't...

Physically, Thor's a high end class 100 brick on par with your Superman, Captain Marvel, Hulk sorts.. Surfers on a different level. (Again, physically. Thor's hammer is capable of hurting characters far past his own durability level, though.)

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, the thing is, Surfer should beat Thor just about every time too, unless Thor gets in one of his overpowered Hammer attacks. Beta Ray Bill's status opposite Thor is always hotly debated, but I don't think anyone would argue their physical stats are at vastly different levels.. Yet, Thor can tank Surfers attacks, while Bill gets put down rather easily? IMO, that's less because of Thor's power levels, and more because of internal politics.. Thor's a flagship character, and Bill is not, so Thor will hold his own while Bill won't...

Physically, Thor's a high end class 100 brick on par with your Superman, Captain Marvel, Hulk sorts.. Surfers on a different level. (Again, physically. Thor's hammer is capable of hurting characters far past his own durability level, though.)

Surfer should beat Thor about as many times as he has in the comics. And while people are quick to point out that Surfer doesn't use his versatility against Thor, neither does Thor use his higher end power output or his own versatility against Surfer.

As far as Bill goes, at Bill's best, he's equal to Thor. At Thor's best, he's another step above Bill. That's not Marvel politics making it so, but rather feats and the consistent history of them.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
He beat him by a plot-device, not by being more powerful, or even close to being as powerful. It's not that impressive, just a cool feat.

But... you just said Nova shielded himself from the blast...

I don't remember if they made it explicit or not.. I'd vote he had to use his shields, as I've never seen anything on Nova's base durability being particularly high..

But, Nova's full power shields are strong... Strong enough to let him fly head first into a blast by two Ka Stones, which were powerful enough to alter reality on a universal level.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Surfer should beat Thor about as many times as he has in the comics. And while people are quick to point out that Surfer doesn't use his versatility against Thor, neither does Thor use his higher end power output or his own versatility against Surfer.

As far as Bill goes, at Bill's best, he's equal to Thor. At Thor's best, he's another step above Bill. That's not Marvel politics making it so, but rather feats and the consistent history of them.

But I'm talking about sheer durability, and not Thor vs Bill overall status..

Overall, you could argue Thor has better versatility with his hammer, or better powers, or better experience. But I don't think one could argue Thor is more durable.. (Stronger, perhaps..)

And the reason why I say Thor beating Surfer is due to politics, is because imo Surfers power blasts are strong enough to beat even high end bricks.. Under good writing, if, say, Superman faced Surfer, and Surfer hit Superman with his most powerful blast, Superman should go down. Surfers power blasts are THAT powerful.. They should shred through high end class 100 brick durability like a hit knife through butter.

Originally posted by cdtm
But I'm talking about sheer durability, and not Thor vs Bill overall status..

Overall, you could argue Thor has better versatility with his hammer, or better powers, or better experience. But I don't think one could argue Thor is more durable.. (Stronger, perhaps..)

And the reason why I say Thor beating Surfer is due to politics, is because imo Surfers power blasts are strong enough to beat even high end bricks.. Under good writing, if, say, Superman faced Surfer, and Surfer hit Superman with his most powerful blast, Superman should go down. Surfers power blasts are THAT powerful.. They should shred through high end class 100 brick durability like a hit knife through butter.

By feats, he is more durable. He's taken greater attacks and punishment than Bill has. Now, you could argue that Thor has more appearances, ergo he has an unfair advantage against Bill in that regard, but someone with even less appearances such as say, Plutonian, has enough to know he's beyond the likes of either Thor or Bill.

Surfer's blasts are strong enough to mess up elite bricks, sure. So are Thor's attacks, which have either one shot killed said bricks or have gone on to cripple and maim skyfather level beings and beyond. And of course, if you compare Surfer's strongest blast ever to Superman's toughest durability showing ever, it's going to be a wash, anyway.

Originally posted by cdtm
I don't remember if they made it explicit or not.. I'd vote he had to use his shields, as I've never seen anything on Nova's base durability being particularly high..

But, Nova's full power shields are strong... Strong enough to let him fly head first into a blast by two Ka Stones, which were powerful enough to alter reality on a universal level.

This is from 5 years ago fam when people were still arguing that Annihlus tanked the galactus event head on without shields. I beat that argument to cobbler in the Nova vs Supergirl thread a while back. It's a complete myth.

And Nova has always been portrayed with elite durability even sans shields. The shields were first mentioned way back in Nova #23 in 1977 iirc. Nova used to try and tank everything with just his durability, but Dr. Sun mentioned to him that if he knew how to utilize his powers better he'd have been able to erect a shield to block his energy attacks or some such. That never came into fruition until Annihilation #6 lol. Funnily enough, during the Galactus blast lol. Nice touch Mr. Giffen.