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Who makes more sense for Superman to rival in a crossover? Who would you rather see?

Assume CIS is applied, and that there won't be any speedblitzing against Hulk. Also assume the scenerio is well enough put together that the match makes sense. (IE, Superman isn't on Earth against the avengers, and suddenly Surfer flies out of nowhere and tackles him...)

Which one of Marvel's heavy hitters should face off against DC's flagship in a crossover?

Gotta be Thor. Even in a forum match, it's close between them.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Who makes more sense for Superman to rival in a crossover? Who would you rather see?

Assume CIS is applied, and that there won't be any speedblitzing against Hulk. Also assume the scenerio is well enough put together that the match makes sense. (IE, Superman isn't on Earth against the avengers, and suddenly Surfer flies out of nowhere and tackles him...)

Which one of Marvel's heavy hitters should face off against DC's flagship in a crossover?

The best fight in all around terms would be Supes vs Surfer IMO.

However an in character fight between Supes and Hulk is probably my fave match up. It's similar to fighting a less powerful Validus in that Superman is aware that his foe doesn't entirely understand what's going on. It adds a whole layer to the fight that is lost with the other two. Sure Surfer and Thor make a more epic fight but Hulk makes for a more interesting one.

Hulk would be better against someone like Doomsday. Silver Surfer and Supes never ends well on forum. It's gotta be Thor, even though Superman still beats him

Sentry

It's Thor.

Hulk is far too weak and 1D wheras Surfer is much much much too strong.

Thor JUST fits nicely , also his magic weapons make him a damn good match even if his strength can't match up...

Originally posted by grey fox
It's Thor.

Hulk is far too weak and 1D wheras Surfer is much much much too strong.

Thor JUST fits nicely , also his magic weapons make him a damn good match even if his strength can't match up...

Right, surfer is far too strong for Thor.

I like Thor vs Superman, that fight should have gone a lot longer and been much closer than in the JLA/Avengers crossover imo.

Superman standing up without a mark on him and claiming Thor was one of his toughest opponents ever didn't satisfy me in the least!

I don't mind if Superman takes it in the end, I just want to see the two of them go at it for an entire issue and really mess each other up.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Who makes more sense for Superman to rival in a crossover? Who would you rather see?

Assume CIS is applied, and that there won't be any speedblitzing against Hulk. Also assume the scenerio is well enough put together that the match makes sense. (IE, Superman isn't on Earth against the avengers, and suddenly Surfer flies out of nowhere and tackles him...)

Which one of Marvel's heavy hitters should face off against DC's flagship in a crossover?

hmmHulk

I'd say Hulk would be matched up against Supes because he's so popular and everbody knows who he is.

Thor is a better match though.

i read the title and all i could think of was "One of these things is not like the other, one of these things just doesn't belong, one of these things is not like the other, can you guess by the end of this song?"

Thor and Superman crossover would be the shit

Thor

Originally posted by llagrok
Right, surfer is far too strong for Thor.

Thats obviousy why in nearly every single match up the two have Surfer ends up on the losing end of the battle? ermm

The Silver Surfer-Superman crossover already happened.

Hulk and Superman have met several times.

Now, Thor and Superman on their own - I'd actually like a four way. Thor and Beta Ray Bill teaming with Superman and Captain Marvel!

Surfer >> Superman
Superman = Thor
Superman >>> Hulk
Surfer > or = Thor

...Thor's the only logical matchup. In a crossover they'd make it close regardless of who he fights, but Surfer should destroy him via energy drain (or red sun blasts), and Hulk is nowhere near Supes in overall power.

Either one should have an edge on Thor because of their speed advantage, but he's been shown to be able to hang with them consistently, so it's really a tossup with Thor. He's not any more powerful than Supes, but he's a better matchup against Surfer because he can absorb Surfer's energy, and should also probably beat Supes because of Kal's weakness to magic.

Originally posted by His Airness
Thats obviousy why in nearly every single match up the two have Surfer ends up on the losing end of the battle? ermm

PIS. durfist

Alot of hulk haters in here.

Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
Alot of hulk haters in here.

lookaround

Supes is powerful enough to mesh with any of them. The best team-up stories here though I think would be with Thor, because although I like him, Surfer isn't a character that drives a story well, but rather is driven by the stories around him. Supes is definately in his league though.

A lot of the Hulk supporters hang their hat on the idea that, since he gets stronger and harder to hurt as he gets angrier, as the fight goes on etc. that he should emerge the victor against nearly anyone. But, if that was really true, Hulk couldn't be knocked unconscious - and lots of people have done it - because he should heal up right away and come back stronger. If you don't buy that argument, then you can't support Hulk against some really high-ended foes. Decades of editiorial inconsistantcy doesn't help; sometimes Hulk looks unstoppable against multiple opponenets, other times he's been knocked out by a python.

Originally posted by Jimmy Buggs
Alot of hulk haters in here.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
However an in character fight between Supes and Hulk is probably my fave match up. It's similar to fighting a less powerful Validus in that Superman is aware that his foe doesn't entirely understand what's going on. It adds a whole layer to the fight that is lost with the other two. Sure Surfer and Thor make a more epic fight but Hulk makes for a more interesting one.

Superman > Thor.

Superman > Hulk.

So I guess Surfer has to fight Superman.

I don't think people are getting that this isn't about how powerful they are. This is a completely in character fight based o my reading of the OP.

Thor for the best matchup

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't think people are getting that this isn't about how powerful they are. This is a completely in character fight based o my reading of the OP. Well I was considering what type of story the eventual team-up after the scuffle would be. Being where power and personality come into play.

Originally posted by Redatom65
Hulk would be better against someone like Doomsday. Silver Surfer and Supes never ends well on forum. It's gotta be Thor, even though Superman still beats him I agree: Thor would be best.
And I also agree with your sig. Christopher Reeve made for a good Superman, but I still think George was the best.

Originally posted by Juntai
Well I was considering what type of story the eventual team-up after the scuffle would be. Being where power and personality come into play.


Tell me more of this "team up".

How would Thor help drive a story with Supes in it?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Tell me more of this "team up".

How would Thor help drive a story with Supes in it? IT was more theoretical than something I've already played out. I think a story that would involve these two characters and either some cosmic threat, or asgardian threat of some such or another, would be kind of badass, after Supes knocked the crap out of Thor again.

It would have to be Thor.

Silver Surfer logically should own Superman for most of their match. Hulk is just too slow. So yeah Thor should be the guy.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't think people are getting that this isn't about how powerful they are. This is a completely in character fight based o my reading of the OP. That's exactly right.

People, this isn't about who would match power levels exactly, or who would win in a forum match.

What would make the best story? What would be the most epic? Which of Marvel's heavy hitters should be the one to face off against DC's flagship?

Originally posted by roughrider
The Silver Surfer-Superman crossover already happened.

Hulk and Superman have met several times.

Now, Thor and Superman on their own - I'd actually like a four way. Thor and Beta Ray Bill teaming with Superman and Captain Marvel!

Much as I love this idea, it's pretty obvious that team DC would stomp them.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Much as I love this idea, it's pretty obvious that team DC would stomp them.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Much as I love this idea, it's pretty obvious that team DC would stomp them.

As Homie The Clown would say: (headslap) "I don't think so!"

Originally posted by His Airness
Thats obviousy why in nearly every single match up the two have Surfer ends up on the losing end of the battle? ermm Never happened.

Originally posted by His Airness
Thats obviousy why in nearly every single match up the two have Surfer ends up on the losing end of the battle? ermm Surfer is stronger than Thor. Maybe Thor has magical abilities but the arenal Surfer has is more than enough.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Much as I love this idea, it's pretty obvious that team DC would stomp them. DC wins?
Because I thought the characters would win, not the company...

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Never happened. Actually it did happen against warrior madness Thor.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Actually it did happen against warrior madness Thor. I thought he meant on the forum, plus, that wasn't under normal circumstances either.
And therefore, not usable in a normal fight between the two.

Hulk is supposed to be amped up right now. Lets not end this untill after WWH

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
PIS. durfist

Call it PIS if you please, but it happened and it happened consistently.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Much as I love this idea, it's pretty obvious that team DC would stomp them.

Your a fanboy. ermm

Originally posted by Rewmac
Surfer is stronger than Thor. Maybe Thor has magical abilities but the arenal Surfer has is more than enough.

Really? In comics that never appeared to be so. ermm

Superman >Thor>SS/Hulk

I vote Sentry as the one to fight Supes. Thor and Hulk are too slow, SS does terrible against bricks.

Sentry is still developing and quite a bit can still be done with him.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Superman >Thor>SS/Hulk

Originally posted by His Airness
Thats obviousy why in nearly every single match up the two have Surfer ends up on the losing end of the battle? ermm

Sarcasm retard.

Originally posted by llagrok
Sarcasm retard.

The irony. ermm

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I thought he meant on the forum, plus, that wasn't under normal circumstances either.
And therefore, not usable in a normal fight between the two. We can say not normal but there weren't any too special. Thor was bloodlusted...The funny part was where Surfer went down Beta Ray didn't.

I would rather see the FF4 vs Superman

Can someone link a FF4 respect thread , if there is one?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Superman >Thor>SS/Hulk

I vote Sentry as the one to fight Supes. Thor and Hulk are too slow, SS does terrible against bricks.

Sentry is still developing and quite a bit can still be done with him.

DC would not let a SS/Superman fight happen for fear that Supes gets whooped. Thor would be the logical choice. SS does terrible against bricks. lol. Check out his fights against Hulk, Champion, Durok.

Originally posted by tdawg14
DC would not let a SS/Superman fight happen for fear that Supes gets whooped. Thor would be the logical choice. SS does terrible against bricks. lol. Check out his fights against Hulk, Champion, Durok.

Check out SS performance against BP.

Superman already has beaten GL's and the Eradicator, who can both do anything SS can.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Check out SS performance against BP.

Superman already has beaten GL's and the Eradicator, who can both do anything SS can. And other guys more powerful than that. He's seriously taken on high end cosmic threats, more near Galactus than Surfer.


Surfer has the tools to hurt Superman, that's why people give him the nod, however, tons of other characters, more and less powerful, have too. It doesn't seem to matter.

I didnt think you can beat superman by "hurting" him

Although i am an avid Hulk fangirl, other than being Marvels Flagship Brick he should in no way battle Clark...Norrin written well is by far his superior, plus it wouldn't be an interesting read...However Thor would..plus with the right writers they should e evenly matched

Unfortunately, there is a difference between what Superman is capable of, and what DC would allow to happen to him.

which is why I see crossovers as lame reads...because no-1 wants their poster boy or girl to be beaten by the competition ...

I like the hulk but really enjoy his battles with superman and dont mind seeing him take a beating to supes. I really dont care about silver surfer and I dont see any reason or way he can beat superman in a battle.

Originally posted by roughrider
The Silver Surfer-Superman crossover already happened.

Hulk and Superman have met several times.

Now, Thor and Superman on their own - I'd actually like a four way. Thor and Beta Ray Bill teaming with Superman and Captain Marvel!

That would be a hot crossover. But out of the 3 here it would have to be Thor. He and Supes could have a great battle with Thor coming out on top of course

Out of these three, I'd say Thor, but I'd recommend Sentry to fight Supes more than any of these 3.

Superman has too many powers for Hulk and Silver Surfer's got too much for Superman (for the most part) so that it wouldn't be a calculating match, but rather just a sort of punch for punch type of thing...oh and not a literal punch for punch lol.

Sentry, though, seems to be well-rounded enough for Superman so that we can see more than just an arm wrestling competition like what Supes/Hulk would be, but still some gritty "throw the guy into a building" type of stuff that you wouldn't see with SS.

Imagine when Sentry throws Clark into the sun and realizes he's doing him a favor, lol.

Ignore the fights. Check how the story will be, esp if it gonna be a limited series. SS will be the story too cosmic, venues will be deep space. Hulk will be earth bound....controling the monster in him kinda story. Thor on de other hand will be best of both worlds. Other dimensions and earth too.

Originally posted by NoFate007
Out of these three, I'd say Thor, but I'd recommend Sentry to fight Supes more than any of these 3.

Superman has too many powers for Hulk and Silver Surfer's got too much for Superman (for the most part) so that it wouldn't be a calculating match, but rather just a sort of punch for punch type of thing...oh and not a literal punch for punch lol.

Sentry, though, seems to be well-rounded enough for Superman so that we can see more than just an arm wrestling competition like what Supes/Hulk would be, but still some gritty "throw the guy into a building" type of stuff that you wouldn't see with SS.

Imagine when Sentry throws Clark into the sun and realizes he's doing him a favor, lol. Yeah, but I figured I'd go for the more traditional marvel figures if it came to a company crossover.

Meh.

Thor vs Superman

Hulk vs DD

SS vs Green Lantern

Im pretty sure FF4 can beat all four of them. (Not at the same time)

Originally posted by FearOfBlood
Thor vs Superman

Hulk vs DD

SS vs Green Lantern

1. good match.

2. Spite. Hulk dies hard.

3. good match.

2/3. Not bad, fanboy. 131

Dude is SS v GL is a good match how can SS beat superman.

Well anyway when Thor returns, it's official that he's gonna meet Iron man 1st.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
1. good match.

2. Spite. Hulk dies hard.

3. good match.

2/3. Not bad, fanboy. 131

1. Yep

2. It would be written as a good fight with Hulk most likely winning.

3. good fight

2/3. Not bad fanboy 131

Originally posted by joesha28
Well anyway when Thor returns, it's official that he's gonna meet Iron man 1st.

where was this stated?