Originally posted by Mider999
Lucifer Morningstar is above the spectre and thus above LT
I disagree. Under what basis does Lucifer Morningstar being more versatile than Spectre make him greater than LT ?
Remember these facts Mider:
1) Lucifer created a universe/multiverse: by shaping Micheal's power to create from nothing. Lucifer is the will of Yahweh, not the raw power of Yahweh like Micheal is.
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2) Spectre's power level varies, your yourself admitted this. When Lucifer told Spectre to go away, Spectre was using his brains...remember, he is half human, half God. The human side of him would fall victim to Lucifer Morningstar's intelligence and he knew it.
It's not simply because Lucifer is stronger...Lucifer has not proven to be any greater than Spectre in terms of being unlimitted in raw power. ONLY in terms of cunning and intelligence.
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3) Living Tribunal's power does not vary. It's absolute. Also, unlike Spectre, LT does not waste his time on worldly affairs. LT only gets involved with multiversal threats, while Spectre gets manipulated by mortal women like Eclipso.
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4) Lucifer has been through frustration and near defeat by beings far weaker than Spectre.
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5) The blast which was caused by Micheal's death at Lucifer's hands was equal to the vastness of a multiverse. That is what the Ultamate Nullifier basically is.
The Ultamate Nullfier cant do jack to LT. The Infinity Gauntlet is far more powerful than the UN, yet LT is far above the IG.
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6) Lucifer created a "multi eternity".....or atleast Vertigo's equivalent to Marvel's multi-eternity. Living Tribunal is far more powerful than multi eternity and his kin.
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7) The only official defeat LT has ever endured was defeat at the hands of Thanos with HOTU. The Guardians of the Galaxy/Korvac crap you keep brining up was already proven TOTAL PIS by Mr. Master, and the rest of the Marvel experts here on KMC.
Besides, it is against KMC rules to incorperate PIS into an argument for any means.
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And please do not answer my argument with a bunch of Living Tribunal sucks stuff ok ?
If you aim to prove me wrong, then attack my individual points and prove me wrong. Otherwise, don't argue.