Tournament Match 1

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darthgoober

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Devil Lance
While scoobless' plan is a very solid one it has a few holes in itts logic

first off I won't simply be flying to where Bigfoot is no I'll be teleporting above you
which Guardian is quite adept at doing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Alpha_Flight_v1_090_03.jpg
after telporting above you while I'm already invisble so you won't have a chance of seeing m enot to mention I'm about 100 times smaller than you soe ven if i wasn't invisble you probably wouldn't see me anways I'll frow my mace construct down at you seeing as your intagible IGW will see that he can't attack you he'll take a small retreat and teleport all the way over to the other side of the Grand Canyon and wait for you to come get him

also a sand storm won't work because IGW will just turn the sand invisble too since IW's power scan make the enviroment invisble aswell as shown here

http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue20202gf6.jpg

now seeing as how Bigfoot has no Idea where IGW is at the moment an dhas no tracking abilities to find IGW so if he does find IGW.

illadelph12
Bump

Devil Lance
Really people the adavanteg that IGW has that will win the match for me is Guardian's teleporting abilities

With them I can always be one step a head of scoobless

anywyas like I said once IGW realizes that bigfoot is inatgible he'll teleport all the way to the other side of the Grand Canyon so Bigfoot has to come and get me.

And if he does by some chance find the area in which IGW is in (he can't find IGW since he is invisble) IGW will teleport behind Bigfoot and hit him with enrgy blastpwoere dup by the energy he absored during prep time.

This should knock Bigfoot down to the ground if he is not phased and stun him for a few seconds. If he is phased then IGW will just teleport again to the other side cranyon from wher ehe previosuly was and will begin this all over agin.

However if he isn't phased then IGW will teleport biltz Bigfoot with a barage of energy blasts and which will all be invisble due to the abilties of the Invisble Woman.
Gaurdians enrgy blasts are vey powerfull as well they were even strong enough to redirect a 100 ton plane as seen here
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight58-10.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight58-11.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight58-12.jpg

Guardian's sonic attacks are pretty powerful too
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight121-19.jpg
by the end of this barrage Bigfoot should be dazed s,tuned, and deaf
which lets Guardian attack him while hes of fguard and teleport close to the leg of the fallen bigfoot.

and wraps Bigfoot in a plasma band and tosess him up into the air.

as she does to this criminal here
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight77-19.jpg
IGW then telports above the soaring Bigfoot and blast him with the combined power of all of Guardians weapons at once
which include Electromagnetic projectors, Down beam pulse, Flare, Ultrasound beam, Graviton beam, Concussion wave, and a Dispersal beam
as guardian does here
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight120-16.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight120-17.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight120-18.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight120-19.jpg

combined with a blast uing IW's powers
like the one IW used on hulk here
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020004no9.jpg

this in all likely hood should ko Bigfoot if not IGW will teleport to wherever Bigfoot landed and finish him of with another barrage of invisble attacks.

Either way IGW wins a hardfought battle

DarkCrawler
Bump - I am one of the judges, by the way.

illadelph12
As am I, but I don't think there's been match assignments.

I believe you, I, Digi, and Mungi are judges. There's likely more though.

Scoobless
Originally posted by Devil Lance


Thanks

smile

Originally posted by Devil Lance
first off I won't simply be flying to where Bigfoot is no I'll be teleporting above you
which Guardian is quite adept at doing
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Alpha_Flight_v1_090_03.jpg

Guardian cannot teleport, what you've shown there is her using the planets gravitational field to let the planet move below her withoput pulling her along ... in essence she's just travelling really fast ... far faster than the speed cap allows in this tourney.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
I'll frow my mace construct down at you seeing as your intagible IGW will see that he can't attack you he'll take a small retreat

I have a hard time believing you would go to the trouble to create a mace during prep only to throw it away at the first sign of the enemy.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
also a sand storm won't work because IGW will just turn the sand invisble too since IW's power scan make the enviroment invisble aswell as shown here

http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue20202gf6.jpg

Everything turned invisible there was solid or solid parts with solid connections ... eachgrain of sand here is it's own obstacle, there would be litteraly millions of them in the air and IW would have to "invisify" each of them individually ... which just isn't happening.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
now seeing as how Bigfoot has no Idea where IGW is at the moment an dhas no tracking abilities to find IGW so if he does find IGW.

Admittedly, that is the tricky part ... the only tricky part though.

Regardless of how long it may or may not take BF to find IGW, the fact is that IGW just can't hurt BF, he has Sasquatch's durability + the durability added by the moonstone (which on it's own is enough to take a good few hits from the Hulk):

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7258/vshulk01st8.th.jpg http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6663/vshulk02sx2.th.jpg

Then you take all that and multiply it a few hundred times when Pym grows ... ta-da, nothing you have in your arsenal is going to do anything more than tickle.

Originally posted by Devil Lance

hit him with enrgy blastpwoere dup by the energy he absored during prep time.

If he is phased then IGW will just teleport again to the other side cranyon from wher ehe previosuly was and will begin this all over agin.

Repeating the same process over and over with the hope that the result will be different = insane.

stick out tongue

Originally posted by Devil Lance
a barage of energy blasts and which will all be invisble due to the abilties of the Invisble Woman.

I don't believe you, IW may be able to turn the Guardian suit invisible due to it's physical nature, but anything generated from the suit will come out just as visible as ever ... as soon as you fire you give away your position.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Gaurdians enrgy blasts are vey powerfull as well they were even strong enough to redirect a 100 ton plane

Her max flight power aided by her energy blasts were barely enough to alter taht planes course a few degrees and it still hit that rock.

Firing at that intensity will obviously throw IGW around in the air if it can even remotely move a "100 ton plane" ... no stability = piss poor aim (not that it matters)

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Guardian's sonic attacks are pretty powerful too
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight121-19.jpg

What's loud to a human will probably be little more than a whisper when you make that human 50 times larger.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
wraps Bigfoot in a plasma band and tosess him up into the air as she does to this criminal here
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight77-19.jpg

That guy probably weighs around 175 lbs ... Bigfoot weighs close to 1,000 tons.

Scoobless
Well ... my computer is pretty freakin' annoying right now ... I hit "Spellcheck" and it posted instead of checking, I then went back to re-do the spellcheck and add a little more on but I lost my connection, now the time period for editing is over and I have to waste a post to add on the summary I typed out.

miffed

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Ok, IGW can't teleport, his blasts aren't invisible, he can't turn the dust cloud invisible, he can't hurt BF and he certainly can't throw him into the air.

Yes, it may take a while to find IGW but BF can be patient ... failing that he can constantly fire concussive blasts around to see if they connect with anything ... Moonstone's power never drains as it comes from an ancient alien lifestone, so there's no need to worry about this wearing BF out.

Along with this a healthy round of applause from BF would be the equivalent of carpet-bombing the entire area with high explosives ... no effect on himself but devastating to his opponents ... and probably fatal to all the damn tourists at the Grand Canyon

embarrasment

So yes, this match could take a while but at the end of the day BF just can't lose as IGW is incapable of damaging him ... therefore it's only a matter of time before he wins.

smile

DigiMark007
DL, you might want to watch your posts. There's a limit of 8, and your 2 so far could probably be meshed into 1.

Also, no clue if I'm a judge....goob hasn't said anything, and I kinda assumed I was judging next week. But either way works.

illadelph12
I have no problem covering judge duties this week. It's probably better actually as next week I'll be busy with a conference here at work and have less time to go over things.

SpunkySmurph
I was a judge since the beginning thread, but is Goob assigning only a couple judges to each match?

I'm free to judge either way.

Devil Lance
Originally posted by Scoobless
Thanks

smile



Guardian cannot teleport, what you've shown there is her using the planets gravitational field to let the planet move below her withoput pulling her along ... in essence she's just travelling really fast ... far faster than the speed cap allows in this tourney.



I have a hard time believing you would go to the trouble to create a mace during prep only to throw it away at the first sign of the enemy.



Everything turned invisible there was solid or solid parts with solid connections ... eachgrain of sand here is it's own obstacle, there would be litteraly millions of them in the air and IW would have to "invisify" each of them individually ... which just isn't happening.



Admittedly, that is the tricky part ... the only tricky part though.

Regardless of how long it may or may not take BF to find IGW, the fact is that IGW just can't hurt BF, he has Sasquatch's durability + the durability added by the moonstone (which on it's own is enough to take a good few hits from the Hulk):

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/7258/vshulk01st8.th.jpg http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6663/vshulk02sx2.th.jpg

Then you take all that and multiply it a few hundred times when Pym grows ... ta-da, nothing you have in your arsenal is going to do anything more than tickle.



Repeating the same process over and over with the hope that the result will be different = insane.

stick out tongue



I don't believe you, IW may be able to turn the Guardian suit invisible due to it's physical nature, but anything generated from the suit will come out just as visible as ever ... as soon as you fire you give away your position.



Her max flight power aided by her energy blasts were barely enough to alter taht planes course a few degrees and it still hit that rock.

Firing at that intensity will obviously throw IGW around in the air if it can even remotely move a "100 ton plane" ... no stability = piss poor aim (not that it matters)



What's loud to a human will probably be little more than a whisper when you make that human 50 times larger.



That guy probably weighs around 175 lbs ... Bigfoot weighs close to 1,000 tons.


First off it is teleporting
Mungi even calls it that in the Guardian respect thread
"Heather using her teleportation trick inside to defeat the powerful Witchfire."
Telportation trick= teleportation
and I'm sory scoobs but when it comes to alpha fight
Mungi's opinion>>>>>>>>>>>>>your's wink

heck she even sya sshe's teleporting in this scan
in the last pannel
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Alpha_Flight_v1_090_03.jpg
and I quote
"But it works really nicely in close quarters too. TELEPORTS me right behind her"

Key word= TELEPORTS
If it says in the comic that the character is telporting than I going to beleive what the character says and not you sorry.
so I will be bale to teleport
Now you ask why would I waste my mace on my first attack well first off I know I won't wnat to get close to Bigfoot so IGW will know that his best chance to win will be to attack from affar. I won't even think of going near you for a good while.

heres another example of her telporting
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight113-17.jpg

so its obvious to see that IGW is able to telport so your point is mute
Now you said that The blast from IW's powers won't do anything to you. I'd think again
first off
A. It won't just be IW's attack it will also be the combined force of all of Guardians arsenal.
Now look at these scans
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight120-15.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight120-19.jpg

there are about 4-6 people Guardian blasts at each of them in extremely high tech armor. Added to the fact that Guardian ha dalready used a bit of her enrgy supply fighting the wrecking crew so her power levels wern't at a hundred percent.
In this fight they will be
So one blast took out 4-6 people in high tech very durable armor
when Guardians power levels were not at their highest

think how much it will hurt when Guardians power leevls are at a hundred percent and the blast is concentrated at one opponent combined with the blast from IW's powers.
B. Like I showed earlier Guardian's blast were able to easilly redirect a 100 ton plane so IgW's IW attack wouldn't have to blast any weigt at all.

Now on to your point about my sonic and enrgy attack assualt.

What you are forgetting is that Sasquatch already has enhanced hearing making him bigger will just increase this even further
sonic attacks aimed at his ears will hurt him a ton.
Most likely even deafen him

Just look at what Guardian's sonic attack doe sto the armored Iron man Villain Mauler
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight113-13.jpg

So to wrap things up
I am invisble
My blast do hurt you
I can teleport
My sonic attacks will hurt you

I will wn

King_Mungi
Clarification:
Guardian refers to it as move similar to "teleporting" in the comic, but it isn't actually teleporting.

Mac on the other hand can teleport, but what Heather did on Witchfire is not the same thing.

Devil Lance
Okay then since mungi phrase dhwat he said in the Guardian respect thread the wrong way I'll have to change my battle plan ab it.

So even though IGW will still be invisble so Bigfoot will hav eno chance of knowing when I reach him for te first time.

He also won't have any idea that I tried to attack him

Because

A. The mace will go right through him since his intangible.
and
B. The mace is invisble so even when it goes through im he won't notice it is there because it is invisble.

So BF won't even relize that IGW was there allowing IGW to make an easy retreat.

Now once BF tries to find IGW. IGW will see him from a mile away alowing him to get a barrage of sneak attacks powered up by the energy he absorbed during prep time.

Now since the scans I showed earlier show that guardaians blast can redirect a plane that ways more than 100 tons it should easilly be able to konock Bigfoot down.
Leaving him open to anothe rbarage of enrgy attacks
followed by a gaint assualt from the combined arsenal of Guardian in the form of one huge blast, and a blast using Iw's powers which I showed earlier together will be quite effective against BF.

This should atleast take BF out of comission for a short time if it does not take him out completly. if he isn't koed and just dazed (which I highly doubt) IGW will just keep on nailing the fallen BF with another barrage of energy attacks giving me the win

darthgoober
Ok the judges for this match are...

1.batdude
2.DarkCrawler
3.illadelph12
4.SpunkySmurph

Scoobless
Post #3: Bigfoot = Pym/Sasquatch/Moonstone

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now you said that The blast from IW's powers won't do anything to you. I'd think again
first off
A. It won't just be IW's attack it will also be the combined force of all of Guardians arsenal.
Now look at these scans
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight120-15.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/AlphaFlight120-19.jpg


If I weren't intangible that energy would still all just splash off my armour like water off a duck's back.

You seem to be severely underestimating my character, Sasquatch's strength/durability are both a little over base level Hulk and I'm using Pym's powers to increase both these factors.

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4369/sas1vx1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_26.jpg

I've already shown that the moonstone added durability can take high level impacts on its own ... that power on top of Sasquatch's own, even before the height/mass increase will give Bigfoot insane durability.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
What you are forgetting is that Sasquatch already has enhanced hearing making him bigger will just increase this even further


Hearing doesn't become more sensitive due to size increase, the durability of the materials used for hearing will increase though ... which explains why Hank Pym's vocal cords become strong enough to shatter windows when he shouts without having any adverse effect on his hearing:

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/Giantshout1.th.jpg http://images6.theimagehosting.com/Giantshout2.th.jpg

Basically it means his resistance to sound increases with the rest of his body.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Now since the scans I showed earlier show that guardaians blast can redirect a plane that ways more than 100 tons it should easilly be able to konock Bigfoot down.

A 100 ton plane is not the same thing as a 1,000 ton monster .... your strongest blasts will hit like a light summer shower .... all it'll do is let BF know where to aim his next attack.

Of course this is all assuming that BF will be solid when you try to attack.

The fact is that I only need one single attack to connect to hurt you badly ... even a glancing blow at this power level would be devastating.

Moonstone's power never runs out, the life-stones (which is what the Kree call objects like the moonstone) have been around for thousands of years and their energy has never depleted. Sasquatch has a healing factor which will keep him going for a very long time.


Eventually, IGW's overpowering of his weapons systems will drain their power or overload, no man-made tech can run non-stop without eventually needing recharging or maintenance.

I'm sorry, but you just can't win .... at best you can keep running around until your power runs down and you exhaust yourself.

Devil Lance
Originally posted by Scoobless
Post #3: Bigfoot = Pym/Sasquatch/Moonstone



If I weren't intangible that energy would still all just splash off my armour like water off a duck's back.

You seem to be severely underestimating my character, Sasquatch's strength/durability are both a little over base level Hulk and I'm using Pym's powers to increase both these factors.

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4369/sas1vx1.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Hulk_Annual_1979_008_26.jpg

I've already shown that the moonstone added durability can take high level impacts on its own ... that power on top of Sasquatch's own, even before the height/mass increase will give Bigfoot insane durability.



Hearing doesn't become more sensitive due to size increase, the durability of the materials used for hearing will increase though ... which explains why Hank Pym's vocal cords become strong enough to shatter windows when he shouts without having any adverse effect on his hearing:

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/Giantshout1.th.jpg http://images6.theimagehosting.com/Giantshout2.th.jpg

Basically it means his resistance to sound increases with the rest of his body.



A 100 ton plane is not the same thing as a 1,000 ton monster .... your strongest blasts will hit like a light summer shower .... all it'll do is let BF know where to aim his next attack.

Of course this is all assuming that BF will be solid when you try to attack.

The fact is that I only need one single attack to connect to hurt you badly ... even a glancing blow at this power level would be devastating.

Moonstone's power never runs out, the life-stones (which is what the Kree call objects like the moonstone) have been around for thousands of years and their energy has never depleted. Sasquatch has a healing factor which will keep him going for a very long time.


Eventually, IGW's overpowering of his weapons systems will drain their power or overload, no man-made tech can run non-stop without eventually needing recharging or maintenance.

I'm sorry, but you just can't win .... at best you can keep running around until your power runs down and you exhaust yourself.

first off your last comment wasn't really necesscary don't be a jerk
roll eyes (sarcastic)


secondly if you do infact get close to me you'll payfor it once I turn your optical nerves invisble

now you won't just not see me you won't be able to see anything at all.

http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinevol322page18kq0.jpg

I also won't have to fly using the guardians suit
I can use IW's powers to fly aswell
as shown here

http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020003fg3.jpg

and here

http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00170dmka3.jpg

so I really don't have to worry about wasting my guardian suit energy at all.

So lets see bigfoot is blind

has no idea where iGW has no idea even where he is

which leave shim open to several attackl from IGW and while they may not do much to him at first after awhile he won't be able to take them

Scoobless
Post #4 (of 8): Bigfoot = Pym/Sasquatch/Moonstone

Originally posted by Devil Lance
first off your last comment wasn't really necesscary don't be a jerk


embarrasment

Originally posted by Devil Lance
secondly if you do infact get close to me you'll payfor it once I turn your optical nerves invisble

now you won't just not see me you won't be able to see anything at all.

http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverinevol322page18kq0.jpg


It's just another delaying trick though ... and not one you can keep up for long:

http://images6.theimagehosting.com/IW.d74.th.jpg

That's the very next page and Wolverine's sight is already returning.

Of course you probably can't do that in the first place as BF's eyes will be intangible ... IW's power wouldn't be able to "connect" with the eye in the first place.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
I can use IW's powers to fly aswell
as shown here

http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020003fg3.jpg
and here
http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00170dmka3.jpg


True, but Guardian's flight is faster and better suited for battle situations.

Of course, Invisible Woman's power being used constantly is also very draining to the character ... either way you are tiring yourself out ... maybe not extremely quickly, but it all adds up.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
which leave shim open to several attackl from IGW and while they may not do much to him at first after awhile he won't be able to take them

Even if the blinding trick could work (which I highly doubt) it doesn't change the fact that your assaults will be passing through BF causing no harm.

If (and I mean if) that blinding trick did work, IGW would be letting BF know that he was very close by (and in front of him) which means a massive thunderclap would be coming straight away, which would be a very, very bad thing for IGW.

How long have we got for this match? ... we're already over halfway through our posts and it's only been one day.

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illadelph12
I think until Saturday but realistically at this pace we should be done by Friday at the latest. Maybe battles should only be 3 days beginning on Mondays and Wednesdays (2 battles per day).

leonidas
has the time limit on this match expired . . .? confused

illadelph12
No, but it's pretty much over...

:drumroll:

Scoobless
Post #5 (of 8): Bigfoot = Pym/Sasquatch/Moonstone

There are no time limits on how long these theoretical matches can last (that I know of), given that, you only have to judge which character is more likely to be able to subdue the other.

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7660/comparison3vc2.jpg


So what's it gonna be? the insect or the heavily armoured super-giant?

Invisibility can only drag the fight out longer, IGW has no way to physically harm Bigfoot.

Bigfoot needs only to partially connect with IGW and it'll be broken bones, unconsciousness and possibly (probably) death for the tiny man.

A strand of BF's hair is probably stronger than IGW ... and might even be able to impale him.

smile

Hercules
edit: sorry ignore me, not meant to post in here!

Devil Lance
DL post 5 IGW

My friend sScoobless is misleading you
theres no chance one hit from BF would even come close to taking out IGW for many reasons. What are these reasons you ask

A. IGW will be invisble so F will just be blindly trying to hit him.

B. IGW's shield susing Iw's powers should be able to take the attacks by itself.
Seeing as how they've taken much stronger attacks before

As seen here when her shield protects her and a bunch of other heroes from the explosion of Nova's ship
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020008vm3.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020009rl0.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8334/sue2020010sa4.th.jpg

Contains a swing by Mjinor
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020012iu9.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020013dx1.jpg

heck she was even able to contain a gamma bomb for a short time
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020001nx5.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020002ce4.jpg

two of these three attacks that she sielded are greater than BF's thunder claps. Or anyothe rlong range attack you might throw at me.

Now add to IGW's powershields to the power of his personal forecefield from the Guardian suit.

Guardians forcefield was able to endure an attack from a sword which was giving Wolverine's admantium claws a hard time.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-18.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-19.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-20.jpg

Guardian force field even allowed he to take hits from Wonder man who as we all know is >> than sasquatch in the strength department
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-07.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-08.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-13.jpg

now add these two powerful force fields to IGW's own natural durbaility he recieved from the body of Wonderman
Wonderman is quite durable
He's taken hits from thor
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3508/thor212az0fa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/745/thor229cd5qs.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3295/thor235ni5oo.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3689/wondermanvsthor3d6kv7xl.jpg

Hulk
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/3327/hulkp12nc1rt.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/7574/hulkp23ow4hs.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/4129/hulkp37ed5nn.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/4103/hulkp43xy0um.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/8149/hulkp54tk7jf.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/9950/hulkp69fp3ql.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/355/hulkp70gn5oj.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/3830/hulkp89br6bp.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/2023/hulkp90us4gg.jpg

among others Abomination and Atlas just to name a few.

Theres no way BF could evn hope to ko IGW in one hit with all of this durability.
Its obvious to see that

Redatom65
Originally posted by Hercules
edit: sorry ignore me, not meant to post in here!

how dare u

darthgoober
Scoobless

vs

Devil Lance

(This poll will be active for 2 days.)

SpunkySmurph
Digi, I know you can't edit in a poll, but is it possible for you to merge this thread with the match thread?

DigiMark007
No, sorry.

Also, I can't lock the thread without locking the poll as well. We'll need to leave this open to the public.

TricksterPriest
Are compeditors allowed to comment? Or should we just let everyone else have fun in this thread?

DigiMark007
No, we should not post in this thread and just vote in the poll. There's already a discussion thread for the tourney, and I don't want to have to be torn between closing this due to spam and leaving it open to be fair to tourney participants.

Blair Wind
Originally posted by DigiMark007
No, sorry.

How come? confused

DigiMark007
Originally posted by Blair Wind
How come? confused

I misunderstood his question. I just did it.

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I misunderstood his question. I just did it.
Am I brilliant, or am I brilliant? smile

Scoobless
Post #6 (of 8): Bigfoot = Pym/Sasquatch/Moonstone

Originally posted by Devil Lance
My friend Scoobless is misleading you

A. IGW will be invisble

Never said anything other than that ... no expression

Originally posted by Devil Lance
B. IGW's shield susing Iw's powers should be able to take the attacks by itself.
Seeing as how they've taken much stronger attacks before

As seen here when her shield protects her and a bunch of other heroes from the explosion of Nova's ship
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020008vm3.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020009rl0.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8334/sue2020010sa4.th.jpg

A ship exploded ... happens all the time, no one is ever hurt when that happens and there's no way to tell how much force was directed into/towards her force field.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Contains a swing by Mjinor
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020012iu9.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020013dx1.jpg

We're obviously not looking at the same scans ... in the 2 you just posted she clearly fails to contain Mjolnir.

erm

Originally posted by Devil Lance
heck she was even able to contain a gamma bomb for a short time
http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020001nx5.jpg
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020002ce4.jpg

She only redirected it and even that was almost too much for her.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
two of these three attacks that she sielded are greater than BF's thunder claps. Or anyothe rlong range attack you might throw at me.

All BF's powers are multiplied 1000 times, force blasts that can knock the Hulk around at regular levels are not going to be stopped by Sue Richards' force field when augmented to this degree.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Guardians forcefield was able to endure an attack from a sword which was giving Wolverine's admantium claws a hard time.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-17.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-18.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-19.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-20.jpg


Electromagnetic sword Vs superior electromagnetic shield ... nothing to it really.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Guardian force field even allowed he to take hits from Wonder man who as we all know is >> than sasquatch in the strength department
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-07.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-08.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/AlphaFlight127-13.jpg


She could barely take hits from Wonderman.
Wonderman is only slightly stronger than Sasquatch.
Along with Moonstone and Pym, Bigfoot is more than a thousand times stronger than Wonderman = that field may as well not exist.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
now add these two powerful force fields to IGW's own natural durbaility he recieved from the body of Wonderman
Wonderman is quite durable
He's taken hits from thor & Hulk

As have Sasquatch and Moonstone.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Theres no way BF could evn hope to ko IGW in one hit with all of this durability.

You have, at most, 3 times Wonderman's natural durability when adding those shields ... triple an Ant's durability and it will still be crushed when a man steps on it, same thing here.

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IW's shield's have been broken by people a hell of a lot weaker than Bigfoot ... and often when that happens that mental backlash is enough to knock her out ... no reason to assume that the same wouldn't hold true here.

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7836/invisiblewomanshieldbrefm1.th.jpg

That's one example of the many times it has broken/failed.

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It hasn't gone unnoticed that you are now solely arguing for your defensive capabilities, not that they'll save IGW for long.

Is that because you have accepted that IGW cannot harm BF in any way?

This fight is like a man trying to swat an invisible fly using concussion grenades (that can't harm himself) ... it may take him a while to hit it, but when he does, that one hit is all he needs.

Devil Lance
Wait is the match over or can I still post.

If I can't ignore this post everyone

DL post #6 IGW aka closing Argument

Scoob's comparison of my character and a fly is an apt one.

That is compared to a fly that fly over the speed of sound, has several layers of extremely durable fenses, high class 100 strength, pretty energy attacks, and most importantly is invisble and can make its attacks invisble aswell.

Now think about how hard it is to swat a fly that is flying around that is actually visible and moving at speeds way below the speed of sound. Its a pretty tedious task isn't it?

Well think how hard it will be for Bigfoot to hurt IGW when he's invsible and moving at speeds way fatser than BF could even hope to react to, not o mention the fact that IGW's attacks will be invisble since IW can make other things other than her self invisble as shown here
http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue20202gf6.jpg

and here
http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020005kc6.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020006cj7.jpg
http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sue2020007ab4.jpg

so while BF is trying unsucessfully to harm IGW. IGW will discover where BF is not phased and start attacking hime there using invsible atatcks.

After awhile BF will not be able to stay phased because of llack of willpower and his entire body will be left open to my brutal assalt,

anmd clearly after a bararge of enrgy attacks suing the guardians suit and Iw's powers.

BF will fall

BF will have now idea where the pain he is feeling is coming from

now you might say but scoobless says BF's durability is too high for IGW's atatcks to hurt him
I disagrre I beleive Scoob has been overstating BF's durability a tad

take Moonstone for instance yes she's taken hits from hulk but shes also gotten owned by Spoiderman when she was amped up considerably
as seen here
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6733/spectacularspiderman061vb9.th.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9236/spectacularspiderman061zf9.th.jpg
URL=http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spectacularspiderman061et1.jpg]http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3559/spectacularspiderman061et1.th.jpg

if her durability when amped is this bad then her durabilty is nothing so the only real good fense Scoob has is Saquatch's durability

Scoobless
Post #7 (of 8): Bigfoot = Pym/Sasquatch/Moonstone

Originally posted by Devil Lance
DL post #6 IGW aka closing Argument

It's your 7th post actually ... stick out tongue

Originally posted by Devil Lance
Scoob's comparison of my character and a fly is an apt one.

That is compared to a fly that fly over the speed of sound, has several layers of extremely durable fenses, high class 100 strength, pretty energy attacks, and most importantly is invisble and can make its attacks invisble aswell.

No, it's Compared to an average man and an average fly.

Class 100 strength and shields means nothing when the opponent is over 1000 times stronger than you.

Invisible Woman cannot make another person's energy attacks invisible and nothing you have shown says otherwise.

And I know I haven't brought it up, but Sas has superhuman reflexes and the moonstone will only serve to enhance those to a greater degree.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
IGW will discover where BF is not phased and start attacking hime there using invsible atatcks.

How will this be discovered? the hands will only be solid for the actual moment of the thunderclap (which lasts a second or less) ... and what? you're going to assault his fingernails during that period?


Originally posted by Devil Lance
After awhile BF will not be able to stay phased because of llack of willpower

Um ... no ... just no.


Originally posted by Devil Lance
after a bararge of enrgy attacks suing the guardians suit and Iw's powers BF will fall

Not really ... you ever see a car destroyed after some birds sh@t on it a few times?

Originally posted by Devil Lance
now you might say but scoobless says BF's durability is too high for IGW's atatcks to hurt him
I disagrre I beleive Scoob has been overstating BF's durability a tad

Some people believe in Santa Claus.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
take Moonstone for instance yes she's taken hits from hulk but shes also gotten owned by Spoiderman when she was amped up considerably
as seen here
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6733/spectacularspiderman061vb9.th.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9236/spectacularspiderman061zf9.th.jpg
URL=http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spectacularspiderman061et1.jpg]http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3559/spectacularspiderman061et1.th.jpg

Those scans are ancient, the first two don't show Spider-Man hurting her at all and the third one doesn't work when you click it.

Moonstone's control of her powers has increased over the years ... Thunderbolts era Moonstone would kick Masters of Evil era Moonstone's ass 10/10

Originally posted by Devil Lance
if her durability when amped is this bad then her durabilty is nothing so the only real good fense Scoob has is Saquatch's durability

I have Sasquatch's powers enhanced further via the moonstone multiplied a thousand times via Pym's powers.

Moonstone's Durability:

Vs Hulk
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5357/vshulk01qc2.th.jpg http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/6663/vshulk02sx2.th.jpg

Vs Mandroids
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7034/durability01xy2.th.jpg

Vs Hercules
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6665/durability02gm1.th.jpg
Smacked by Herc and the only thing that bothered her was Hawkeye being knocked out.

Again, Thunderbolts era Moonstone >>> old Moonstone showings.

That's how much it enhances a normal human's durability, add that on to Sasquatch and he gains at least another class 50 level durability factor on top of his own.

I know I've shown two of those already but if you're going to question things I've already proved then I may as well recap it to save myself some time.


But that isn't too important as BF will still be intangible.

Scoobless
Post #8 (of 8): Bigfoot = Pym/Sasquatch/Moonstone


I is the winnerest of dem allz!!!1!!1


http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/4057/bigfootvsigwav6.jpg
(not to scale)


stick out tongue


http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/7660/comparison3vc2.jpg
(this one is much closer to the actual scale)


big grin


Ok, I'm off for the night.

GL DL

smile

Devil Lance
Originally posted by Scoobless
Post #8 (of 8): Bigfoot = Pym/Sasquatch/Moonstone


I suck
Bigfoot is the worst Amalgam ever

The Invsible Guardian of Wonder pwns Bigfoot

everyone should vote against Bigfoot

discount all of my previous posts because they were all horribly wrong .

I have no chance of winning

and once again I suck



Ok, I'm off for the night.

Go DL !

smile
DL post 8 IGW
yes

gl scoob stick out tongue :

illadelph12
Judge's Vote

First I'd like to commend both of you on a good match. This tourney seems to be getting off to a good start.

As for my vote on the winner of this match, I'd have to vote for Scoobs. DL really presented no viable way of harming Scoob's character. Scoobs outlined very well what he intended to do and I do not think that IGW would be able to withstand a thunderclap of the magnitude Bigfoot would be able to unleash. I would have liked to see some creative use of the battlefield or some more creative strategies from Devil Lance. Once Scoobs got the upper hand it was almost like Devil Lance was on the defensive for the remainder of the fight and proposed moreso how he'd survive the initial onslaught more than how he'd actually score a victory.

Sorry DL. Hopefully you'll survive to round 2 and get another chance.

Vote Scoobless. thumb up

SpunkySmurph
Judge's Vote

It was a good match... the debating didn't go in the direction I was anticipating, so I was intrigued throughout most of it.

I'll vote Scoob. I felt that, while DL held certain edges (versatility, forcefields, etc.), they ultimately weren't enough to surmount Scoob's overwhelming offense. I also thought that Scoob seemed to have DL much more on his toes, as a defensive player, and that DL didn't really exercise his offensive attacks nearly as much as his defensive procedures.

DarkCrawler
Judges Vote

Alright, here are my two cents and the vote.

Well, Scoobless had all his bases covered. He had the clear durability and strength edge, and even if he could not have taken some attacks he could have just gone intangible. As it is, there is no way that DL could have hurt him with the attacks on his disposal. I also feel that Scoob presented his points better and effectively used everything in his disposal - I felt that DL underused his character. Scoobless used lot of scans and all, and DL didn't really use the full capablities...I am not mentioning the possibilities of his character here, but lets just say that there was lot of them.

Out of the two, Scoobless's debating and usage of his character was simply superior. I give my vote to Scoobless. DL did well, but it is shame that he didn't use all his character's abilities to their fullest. erm

batdude123

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