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Ok weve already had the most tragic characters. Who are the least tragic characters?

Green Arrow.

Squirrel Girl

Joker's. Because he's insane and doesn't give a f@#k.

tony stark rich,playboy,runs shield.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Joker's. Because he's insane and doesn't give a f@#k.

No. The jokers origin was tragic and thats exactly why he doesnt give a **** his life got ****ed up so he basically lost it.


Originally posted by lordboo
tony stark rich,playboy,runs shield.

Well retively less tragic but hes been an alcoholci before and thats not funny, it takes alot of effort to get out of that.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Squirrel Girl

Co-signed.

The Joker's life was fine and normal up into that one single day, even if that day was that bad there are plenty of people that went through alot worse things for alot longer than a day.

He did the same to Jim Gordon, gave him the worse day of his entire life, but Gordon didn't crack.

Magneto had it alot worse IMO.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Green Arrow.

You mean apart from the whole;

Stranded on a desert island full off bad guys.
Being stranded on a desert island full off world's deadliest assassins.
On and off again relationships.
Discovering your ward is a drug addict.
Discovering that your new ward is HIV positive.
Being killed off in an explosion.
Being considered second rate to Batman despite the fact he could hold his own against Bat's before he got fighting skills comparable to Deathstroke.
Deciding to wear a really odd looking hat.
Being impaled through the heart (and lungs?) during a fight.
Having the responsibilities of a mayor and being hated for it.
Having to content with various members of the what he sometimes considers fascist JLA group.
Getting his son caught up in violent bouts with villains.
Getting his ward/s caught up in violent bouts with villains.


to name a few.

He's still had it easy compared to Wolverine but not compared to someone like random generic Marvel or DC universe inhabitants.

Originally posted by willRules
You mean apart from the whole;

Stranded on a desert island full off bad guys.
Being stranded on a desert island full off world's deadliest assassins.
On and off again relationships.
Discovering your ward is a drug addict.
Discovering that your new ward is HIV positive.
Being killed off in an explosion.
Being considered second rate to Batman despite the fact he could hold his own against Bat's before he got fighting skills comparable to Deathstroke.
Deciding to wear a really odd looking hat.
Being impaled through the heart (and lungs?) during a fight.
Having the responsibilities of a mayor and being hated for it.
Having to content with various members of the what he sometimes considers fascist JLA group.
Getting his son caught up in violent bouts with villains.
Getting his ward/s caught up in violent bouts with villains.


to name a few.

He's still had it easy compared to Wolverine but not compared to someone like random generic Marvel or DC universe inhabitants.

HIV and drug addict is the only thing there that's really bad.

Everything else is pretty common place.

For a very long while Ollie Green lived the life, he pretty much still does have it very easy compared to a large majority of heroes.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
The Joker's life was fine and normal up into that one single day, even if that day was that bad there are plenty of people that went through alot worse things for alot longer than a day.

He did the same to Jim Gordon, gave him the worse day of his entire life, but Gordon didn't crack.

Magneto had it alot worse IMO.

True, but that one incident was bad enough to **** up his whole life. Not as bad as others, but bad enough.

Superman tied for number one on easy street with Richie Rich.

Thor

Thor

The guy's a frikken god whom has several hot chicks trying to jump his bones. He views his 'evil' brother as a nuisance and aside from a few 'occasiaonl' problems really has a awesome life.

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor

That's true

Originally posted by Newjak
Thor Yeah i'll go with that.

Originally posted by grey fox
Thor

The guy's a frikken god whom has several hot chicks trying to jump his bones. He views his 'evil' brother as a nuisance and aside from a few 'occasiaonl' problems really has a awesome life.

'Cause it's not like every single friend Asgardian was killed, leaving him the last member of his race ermm.

Originally posted by willRules
That's true Seriously besides everything that grey fox listed. His really bad time on Earth consisted of him being a Doctor. He destined to become a Skyfather level being or Higher despite him already being high Herald. That and its basically a party every night in Asgard. Everyone likes him or respects him even his enemies.

Edit. Least tragic huh?

Originally posted by CasanoVa
'Cause it's not like every single friend Asgardian was killed, leaving him the last member of his race ermm.

Oh no poor Thor a beautiful, blond Asgardian is trying to seduce him.......again.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
'Cause it's not like every single friend Asgardian was killed, leaving him the last member of his race ermm.

...which he then later avenged and were now awaiting their subsequent resurrection.

It's a case of plus and a minus. Both cancel each other out.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
HIV and drug addict is the only thing there that's really bad.

Everything else is pretty common place.

For a very long while Ollie Green lived the life, he pretty much still does have it very easy compared to a large majority of heroes.

Yeah at the very beginning he did. Then he became Green Arrow and things got bad

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9295/gaendurancefeatao4.th.jpghttp://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4667/gaendurancefeat2uz5.th.jpg

.....Gosh some people just cruise through life

Originally posted by grey fox
...which he then later avenged and were now awaiting their subsequent resurrection.

It's a case of plus and a minus. Both cancel each other out. That and the guy has an extremely long almost infinite lifespan.


You know what I just realized I hate Thor. The guy has freaking everything

Originally posted by Newjak
That and the guy has an extremely long almost infinite lifespan.


You know what I just realized I hate Thor. The guy has freaking everything

Well....at least he has a fabio haircut ?

Originally posted by grey fox
Well....at least he has a fabio haircut ?



His life now sucks.

Originally posted by grey fox
Well....at least he has a fabio haircut ? That is true I wonder if as a God he actually has to brush it or does it magically stay silky smooth and straight. I mean I have never seen Thor's hair messed up in battle hmm

Originally posted by grey fox
...which he then later avenged and were now awaiting their subsequent resurrection.

It's a case of plus and a minus. Both cancel each other out.

Avenging doesn't bring somebody back, just ask the Punisher

And we've been waiting for over a year, there's no actual guarnatee they'll be back.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Avenging doesn't bring somebody back, just ask the Punisher

And we've been waiting for over a year, there's no actual guarnatee they'll be back. Seeing as Asgard is being moved to Oklahoma I think they are

Originally posted by Newjak
Seeing as Asgard is being moved to Oklahoma I think they are

Oklahoma sucks.

I never said they wouldn't be, let's just put it like this:

If I were to murder every single family member you have, then you killed me, then you had to live for about another year or so.. then die yourself.

Do you think the fact they're coming back would make the year you had any less tragic? No.

Originally posted by willRules
Yeah at the very beginning he did. Then he became Green Arrow and things got bad

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9295/gaendurancefeatao4.th.jpghttp://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4667/gaendurancefeat2uz5.th.jpg

.....Gosh some people just cruise through life

That's still not that bad.

It might hurt, but it's really not that tragic IMO.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Oklahoma sucks.

I never said they wouldn't be, let's just put it like this:

If I were to murder every single family member you have, then you killed me, then you had to live for about another year or so.. then die yourself.

Do you think the fact they're coming back would make the year you had any less tragic? No.

I agree, plus his act of revenge would show there would be no difference in between you and him in through the whole moral high ground aspect

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Oklahoma sucks.

I never said they wouldn't be, let's just put it like this:

If I were to murder every single family member you have, then you killed me, then you had to live for about another year or so.. then die yourself.

Do you think the fact they're coming back would make the year you had any less tragic? No. Seeing as he was asleep I don't think he really cared

And if that was the worst thing ever it isn't that bad. Especially looking at the fact everything is basically going back to normal

Originally posted by CasanoVa
That's still not that bad.

It might hurt, but it's really not that tragic IMO.

It is tragic, you're just cold hearted

Have to admit, gods like Thor & Hercules seem to have everything they want and no big problems. An epic battle now and again, but a glass of mead or wine is aways waiting at the end of the day. Then there are near-gods like Superman & The Silver Surfer, who can do nearly anything they want.

I'll add Longshot to the list. The man can't experience tragedy; his power gurantees good luck. And he has an awesome power to attract women. Bastard.

Originally posted by willRules
Yeah at the very beginning he did. Then he became Green Arrow and things got bad

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9295/gaendurancefeatao4.th.jpghttp://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4667/gaendurancefeat2uz5.th.jpg

.....Gosh some people just cruise through life

Er so what exactly happened there...he got hurt.....who died?

Originally posted by willRules
It is tragic, you're just cold hearted

Meh.

Tragic is being stuck in a concentration camp, watching your family and friends get shot down and being thrown into their mass grave with them. Then having to crawl out from underneath their rotting bodies, then being forced to help kill your kin just because of your religion.

Tragic is falling in love with a gypsy woman, having a child and realising you have powers and are prevented from saving your burning child from a fire because the town folk don't like the fact your different.

Tragic isn't living the majority of your life in luxury, then getting impaled on two arrows. That's a walk in the park in comparison to alot of the heroes and villains around.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Er so what exactly happened there...he got hurt.....who died?

Merlyn and Doctor Light teamed up to pwn team arrow. GA fights back and gets some good hits in on Merlyn. GA gets distracted by Merlyn blowing up Star City (TRAGIC!!!) and Merlyn seizes the opportunity to impale GA on some arrows. Fortunately he is found in time and recuperates on a desert island where he is taught fighting skills by the same guy who taught Deathstroke. Scans of this are in the GA respect thread

Whilst on the island GA discovers his city is broken up in his absence (TRAGIC!!!)

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7831/gaendurancefeatat2.th.jpg

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Meh.

Tragic is being stuck in a concentration camp, watching your family and friends get shot down and being thrown into their mass grave with them. Then having to crawl out from underneath their rotting bodies, then being forced to help kill your kin just because of your religion.

Tragic is falling in love with a gypsy woman, having a child and realising you have powers and are prevented from saving your burning child from a fire because the town folk don't like the fact your different.

Tragic isn't living the majority of your life in luxury, then getting impaled on two arrows. That's a walk in the park in comparison to alot of the heroes and villains around.

I never said those things weren't tragic. I said that what GA has gone through was tragic, which it is. Compared to Mag's, GA has a had a less tragic life however GA has had a very tragic life

Originally posted by willRules
I never said those things weren't tragic. I said that what GA has gone through was tragic, which it is. Compared to Mag's, GA has a had a less tragic life however GA has had a very tragic life

Really..

GA's life doesn't seem all that tragic to be honest, it's much worse than a normal man's life. But it isn't half as bad as most heroes to be honest .

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Really..

GA's life doesn't seem all that tragic to be honest, it's much worse than a normal man's life. But it isn't half as bad as most heroes to be honest .

My comments + scans = disagreement

Lex Luthor isn't a very tragic character. He's rich and can basically get out of any crime he does.

Originally posted by willRules
My comments + scans = disagreement

Comments + Scans = Nothing tragic.

It's only tragic because you have a man-crush on GA, anybody who was of clear mind could tell that pretty much every other hero has been in a familiar and many, more dire situations.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Really..

GA's life doesn't seem all that tragic to be honest, it's much worse than a normal man's life. But it isn't half as bad as most heroes to be honest .

Bro having a city blown up that your supposed to protect and then eggting impaled to the floor is bad enough, im sure there were people in star city he cared about, actually thats pretty bad.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Bro having a city blown up that your supposed to protect and then eggting impaled to the floor is bad enough, im sure there were people in star city he cared about, actually thats pretty bad.

I never said it wasn't.

I'm just saying, overall.. Ollie has had it pretty easy compared to the majority of heroes.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
Comments + Scans = Nothing tragic.

It's only tragic because you have a man-crush on GA, anybody who was of clear mind could tell that pretty much every other hero has been in a familiar and many, more dire situations.

Wow I never realised your head was sooo far lodged up Magneto's anus you were oblivious to the tragic events of other characters like GA.

"B...bu....but....Magneto! Holocaust!"

Originally posted by CasanoVa
I never said it wasn't.

I'm just saying, overall.. Ollie has had it pretty easy compared to the majority of heroes.

Well im thinking I could name loads of superheroes who have not had that happen to them.

Originally posted by willRules
Wow I never realised your head was sooo far lodged up Magneto's anus you were oblivious to the tragic events of other characters like GA.

"B...bu....but....Magneto! Holocaust!"

I don't even like Magneto actually, it was just the first example I thought of.

And if you really think GA>>Holocaust, then yeah.. This conversation won't get much further.

And Alf, I can think of a few that it has. But it's not even like that, I'm not trying to say that it isn't really bad.. but just that there are plenty of people that have had worse things happen to them.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
I don't even like Magneto actually, it was just the first example I thought of.

I'm aware of that, you just played the Will loves GA card, I'd thought to respond in kind.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
And if you really think GA>>Holocaust, then yeah.. This conversation won't get much further.

Wow talk about twisting my words. Read the post, I never said GA >> Holocaust, that's just stupid. I was just taking the mickey outta the fact that's the only thing you've said about Magneto's tragic past when I can think of several other important examples

Originally posted by CasanoVa


And Alf, I can think of a few that it has. But it's not even like that, I'm not trying to say that it isn't really bad.. but just that there are plenty of people that have had worse things happen to them.

I see what you mean.....a whole city though. But to an extent I guess your parents getting gunned down in front of you is worse because it happened when ypu were 9 and you were very close to them. A whole city is pretty bad but im not sure how close hes was to the people in star city.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I see what you mean.....a whole city though. But to an extent I guess your parents getting gunned down in front of you is worse because it happened when ypu were 9 and you were very close to them. A whole city is pretty bad but im not sure how close hes was to the people in star city.

Yeah I think the events were different in the sense that for Magneto it was something that was deep and personally scarring and shaped his character to some extent. For GA the explosions set off around the city hurt him because he saw it a little bit like Batman sees Gotham. It's his city, his people, his responsibility sorta thing. Both are tragic in very different ways.

Originally posted by willRules
Wow talk about twisting my words. Read the post, I never said GA >> Holocaust, that's just stupid. I was just taking the mickey outta the fact that's the only thing you've said about Magneto's tragic past when I can think of several other important examples

There's hardly anything as tragic currently for Magneto, the 6 million mutant inhabitants of Genosha being killed I guess.. other than that.. Not really. I also think that the earlier in the career something happens, the more affect it has.

for example: Bruce's parents getting gunned down or Scott Summer's parents seemingly being killed.

Star City = Pretty Meh, compared to Genosha's entire population being killed by the sentinels or Bludhaven being destroyed by Chemo etc.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
There's hardly anything as tragic currently for Magneto, the 6 million mutant inhabitants of Genosha being killed I guess.. other than that.. Not really. I also think that the earlier in the career something happens, the more affect it has.

for example: Bruce's parents getting gunned down or Scott Summer's parents seemingly being killed.

Star City = Pretty Meh, compared to Genosha's entire population being killed by the sentinels or Bludhaven being destroyed by Chemo etc.

Oh I agree those were probably comparatively worse, but nonetheless my point still stands that The events that occurred for GA were still very, very tragic

OK this supposed to be about the Least tragic Guy. I think it is safe to assuke that Mags and GA don't get that.

I'm still going with Thor right now

I would agree with Thor. I think Ice-man has had it reasonably easy as well.

Originally posted by Newjak
OK this supposed to be about the Least tragic Guy. I think it is safe to assuke that Mags and GA don't get that.

I'm still going with Thor right now His whole race including his father is dead.

Originally posted by roughrider
I'll add Longshot to the list. The man can't experience tragedy; his power gurantees good luck. And he has an awesome power to attract women. Bastard.
The dude who was made to be a slave fashioned from the nightmares of those who created him? He got mindwiped and fled to Earth where he befirended a person who would later become one of the people who's hunting him down. True he got Dazzler but there's a suspected miscarriage, as Shatterstar is from an alternate future and then got seperated from her. And she thinks that he's been killed.

Longshot's life despite his power has never been an easy one.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
His whole race including his father is dead. And they are coming back and he got to sleep through most of it

deadpool

Arcangel hasn't had it too bad (well by superhero standards)
Besides the brainwashing and turning blue, hes wealthy.

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Arcangel hasn't had it too bad (well by superhero standards)
Besides the brainwashing and turning blue, hes wealthy.

Didnt he have his gf brains blown out in front of him?

............Pip the troll?

Mr.Fantastic

Ultimate Human Torch

Originally posted by Alfheim
Didnt he have his gf brains blown out in front of him? Meh who hasn't. Their should be a life insurance policy for any woman who dates wolverine.

Originally posted by willRules
Ultimate Human Torch Ultimates are too easy though. They dont really have a long enough for some real nasty Sh*t to happen to them yet.

Originally posted by llagrok
Mr.Fantastic

co-signed

The PowerGem.

Iceman rly had it that bad
Beast
Sentry

Originally posted by outavodka
Iceman rly had it that bad
Beast
Sentry

They're all pretty tragic actually . . .

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
They're all pretty tragic actually . . .

Beast and Sentry at least.

Ultimate Prof x 131

Jack Knight. His dad asked him to be a hero and he did, in exchange his dad developed the Star Rod technology as a form of green energy (probably didn't change anything in DC). His brother was shot but they hang out in his dreams once a year. His dad died but it was saving Opal City from destruction. He was raped by the Mist but he loves his kid and spends his days raising him.

Thor and Mr. F are good candidates. I'll add Uatu and Booster Gold.

Originally posted by llagrok
Mr.Fantastic

He has to live every day knowing he turned his best friend into a monster

And despite all of his efforts he has never been able to help him.

How is that not tragic?

Originally posted by Grimm22
He has to live every day knowing he turned his best friend into a monster

And despite all of his efforts he has never been able to help him.

How is that not tragic? Good point.

Originally posted by Grimm22
He has to live every day knowing he turned his best friend into a monster

And despite all of his efforts he has never been able to help him.

How is that not tragic?

Reed never spends any time trying to cure Ben ... for a guy who supposedly "feels guilty" about it he seems to enjoy avoiding helping Ben out.

Seriously ... find me 10 FF comics from the last 5 years where he's focusing on curing Ben.

If my wife was that hot I'd forget about my friends too.

Originally posted by Grimm22
He has to live every day knowing he turned his best friend into a monster

And despite all of his efforts he has never been able to help him.

How is that not tragic?

Hot wife.

Tons of money.

Absurdly intelligent.

Total pimp.

Owns a building.

Popular with the general population.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Jack Knight. His dad asked him to be a hero and he did, in exchange his dad developed the Star Rod technology as a form of green energy (probably didn't change anything in DC). His brother was shot but they hang out in his dreams once a year. His dad died but it was saving Opal City from destruction. He was raped by the Mist but he loves his kid and spends his days raising him.

For a second there, I was all like:

Shit, Jack got raped by that crusty old man?

And then I realised he got raped by the crusty old man's daughter, and then I was like "Oh.. that's ok then".

Originally posted by Scoobless
Reed never spends any time trying to cure Ben ... for a guy who supposedly "feels guilty" about it he seems to enjoy avoiding helping Ben out.

Seriously ... find me 10 FF comics from the last 5 years where he's focusing on curing Ben.

If my wife was that hot I'd forget about my friends too.



I'm not sure if that first part was sarcasm or not?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Hot wife.

Tons of money.

Absurdly intelligent.

Total pimp.

Owns a building.

Popular with the general population.

He can still be a tragic character

Aside from having a hot "wife", intelligence and the building the Thing also fits those categories

But is he a tragic character? Hell yeah!

LOBO.....Nuff said

Originally posted by manjaro
LOBO.....Nuff said Unless you guage the tragedy he CAUSES.

yeah but he him self revels in the tragedy he cuases,sooo........LOBO nuff said

Originally posted by CasanoVa
For a second there, I was all like:

Shit, Jack got raped by that crusty old man?

And then I realised he got raped by the crusty old man's daughter, and then I was like "Oh.. that's ok then".
Haha, probably should of clarified that.

Originally posted by Grimm22
He has to live every day knowing he turned his best friend into a monster

And despite all of his efforts he has never been able to help him.

How is that not tragic?

WRONG.

Ben was cured after the Grey Gargoyle touched him, but then he chose to turn himself into the Thing again. Willingly. So Mr.Fantastic isn't to blame

Originally posted by Big Sexy
Meh who hasn't.

Er lots of heroes.....duhhh.