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I'll have Newjack's post up in just a minute, I'm having problems with it...

Aparently, you can send more images via PM than you can actually post, which means that NJ's opening post won't work. He's going to redo the scans and post his opening later(I have the original, so he can't change anything), so just consider this match on pause until then.

Hey Darth was my write-up edited on purpose? Im missing 3 paragraphs from top and my prep phase?

Since i cant turn people into mist, how bout weapons?

Prep
I've already been told by Darth that prep will be placed on the battlefield so I take one of the Psi Dampeners from the shield Helicarrier to use. Besides the fact that shield does have them if anyone thinks I won't know how to use them well seeing how Dane has already made his own:
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/1069/bkpsiarmoric4.jpg


I then say the word Avalon to get all my stuff. I draw my swords tie my shield to my back for added protection, mount Strider, Colossus up, then Cannonball up.

I know short and sweet right

Battle
Ok now this is the part everyone wants.

Let's start this off by actually stating what his character is capable off more importantly what he lacks.
You see while he does have Warbird's body that only means he gets her strength and durability nothing else. Backlash only has TP and TK and Dane's Symbiote only enhances the abilities the others already possess.

In short he doesn't possess the ability to fly and that makes a very big difference here. Why because I have two methods of flying. My flying steed which by the bio can move faster than the speed of sound and Cannonball's blasting ability.

This gives me a huge advantage in maneuverability. Now what this means is that I control the advantage in every single environment we can possibly fight in. I control everything outside of the Helicarrier thanks to my flight. Inside thanks to my swords and greater durability I control the close quarters fighting that will take place inside the hallways and small rooms. I'll elaborate more on these points later.

But now is the time to absolutely destroy his only chance of winning. That was through his TP. Now everyone who know my guys know they do not possess the greatest TP defense at least you would think so. Thankfully I have found some more things since then.

You see Dane as my mind character has taken and shaken off a few mental attacks in his time:
-Dane shaking off an attack from Exodus
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7021/bkexodus1xh6.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6559/bkexodus2hi2.jpg
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8817/bkexodus3re6.jpg

-Dane shaking off a mental robot
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9681/bkmentaldevicesg0.jpg

-Dane breaking off a mental link with Sersi
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/84/bkbreakingmindlinkbu0.jpg

-Sprite another Eternal says how amazing that feat actually is
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8946/spritewowsn6.jpg

-Plus my sword can absorb Psi Energy

You add all of that unto my Psi Dampener, Thanks to Shield, and I have a very potent Mental defense and with that gone your guy has nothing on me.

My swords cut through anything and I mean anything Rock, Metal, Energy, and Flesh. You name it the sword has cut it or dissipated it in terms of energy.

Your energy whips aren't going to stand a chance, and by the way if my swords can cut Hercules and Thor they are definitely cutting through your Symbiote with ease. So I only need one hit to really end this.

On the other hand my durability thanks to Colossus and Cannonball means I can afford to give up a few. Even though Dane is a really skilled fighter in his own right and Colossus is about as agile as you can get for a brick guy. He is almost the Spiderman of Class 100 bricks.

And just to illustrate my points some more:

Dane's Sword:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7836/bkthorcuthb3.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9531/bloodwrathherccutzt2.jpg
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/357/bkdinocutbn9.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/623/bkrocks0xo5.jpg

Dane Skill and Accuracy:
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7843/bkrockslicingskiller6.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7282/bkgoodwithotherweaponsfi6.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3906/bkreactiondefensevj3.jpg

Colossus's Agility:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/590/uxm10218el8.jpg


Without TP your guy has no chance against me. You add the fact you don't possess flight which means I get to choose when and where to attack. Add to the fact that my swords will cut through you like a hot knife through butter. Then this match is already over. You may as well sit back and listen to my Theme Music:

VNjhbOH8m2U

Newjak post 1 of 8

Before I start with Roldz I just want some Judgment clarifications:
1) I thought his Mist ability was banned seeing as I thought that once he turned back into human all his wounds were healed thus putting him over the killability Cap?

2) I thought that all we had was the knowledge of how to use our powers and that we only had the personal knowledge from the mind?

If those are a yes then right off the bat Roldz can no longer Mist and he automatically can not become Binary.

Originally posted by Roldz
Warbird: Geneticly given half-kree genetic code mesh w/ human genes gave her Super human powers.. She was farther enhance by the Brood alien race enabling her to tap primal energies source from a whitehole however that was only for a short while, as her mental link to the white hole was severed..
There is a key point in this quote. That the link was severed meaning gone.

Originally posted by Roldz
But it should be within the symbiotes reach to restablish the mental connection between Warbird and the Whitehole, the right tools are there psi-energies with Aeons of stored knowledge, incl. Danes psi exp.. It can be done..

As for control of Binary's powers, again the stored knowledge within the symbiote should take care of it as long as my char. (Arcknight) fully merged with the symbiote.. So let me get this straight your whole basis for getting Binary even though you need her personal memories is because you have knowledge. Heck a lot of people have knowledge. Dane Whitman has knowledge. Thor has knowledge across about the cosmos.

The fact is just because you have knowledge doesn't mean you will have the knowledge of a) how to reconnect to the Whitehole or b) where one is at to connect to.

Thats is a big factor and why I pointed out the link has been severed. Meaning it isn't there anymore. Meaning in order for a new one to be established his guy would have to find a Whitehole to connect to, and actually have the power to connect to a Whitehole. Now I'm just saying if your guy actually has that kind of scanning and raw power he may just be banned but I'm more than likely going to say he doesn't possess that kind of knowledge or power.

Originally posted by Roldz
lets see Warbird at say 40 tonner enhance by the symbiote (this same symbiote increase a normal peak human strength to 90-100 tonner) thats roughly about 3600 tons at base strength : ).. This can also be farther enhance in her Binary form or Warbird amping up via psi-energy.. That's if it enhances someone like that. That fact is that as far as we know it may only enhance to 90-100 ton range or maybe to 140 tons and if so that is a long way away from being 3600 tons.

Originally posted by Roldz
Uses 7st senses amp via symbiote. That may have worked if you actually had Warbird's senses remember you took her as a body so all you get is her strength and durability no Super Senses sorry.

Originally posted by Roldz
This battle location should be in Arcknight favour due to many small narrow space easy accessible by mist form either by surprise attack or fast quick getaway.. What should be and What is are two completely different things. The fact is my weapons are better, my durability is better, and my guy is a better weapons fighter than your guy is. I think I have the advantage.

Originally posted by Roldz
Maximum Impact's ability to expand his own blast field would be quite ineffective, it would risk bringing tons of debris down at him, with my misting ability i could easyly mist my way out of this rubles brought about by his blast field.. Your right if I did do this then yes that is what would happen thankfully I never did do that.

Originally posted by Roldz
In h2h combat Arcknight is better; Faster, agile, and his half-mist ability would make it nearly impossible for someone to hit him, he however is able to hit the opponent..
BScan 3.
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/halfmist.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/halfmist1.jpg You know saying you're better, faster, and more agile isn't actually showing it which I have.

By the way those two scans you just showed seem to make Backlash an awful lot like Sandman who was banned. So if you want to keep showing your durability like Sandman or Hydroman be my guest it is one less person I have to worry about in my match.

Originally posted by Roldz
Canonball's blast field is biokinetic energy, Warbird/Binary absorbs this energies nullifying its effect, He need only used Backlash whips..

Warbirds 7st senses amp via sybiotes should allow her precog abilities/or warn her of impending danger ala spider sense, quite usefull in H2H, strategic fighting.. Ok then let us just for one moment actually go ahead and say that you do by some fluke get Binary's powers then yes you could absorb Cannonball's Blast Shield. Then again seeing as it only takes a few moments for Cannonball to completely re energize it doesn't seem like it will make that much difference still.

But still the point is you do not have Binary's powers you have Warbird' Strength and durability. So no 7th Sense(Which Doesn't even act like a real Spider Sense so don't even try to use it like that. She has been hit enough times to know that.)

Originally posted by Roldz
Arcknight's tp assault occupies Maximum Impacts mind preventing him from thingking properly, even shuts down/turns off opponents powers, a tp scan/locate tracks his opponent.. Well its a good thing then I showed you my Mind is tough,I've added Psi Dampeners to that as well, and my swords can Absorb Psi energy. So no your TP is useless in this fight.

Originally posted by Roldz
As soon as battle starts Arcknight in his mist form takes the battle inside the shield helicarier, that is if they werent inside already..

From there he tp locates MI's whereabouts and uses UV grenade to blind him at an opportune moment.. You have to find me first. Remember that I have Swords that will absorb some of the Grenade's explosion, Cannonball's Blast Shield, and Colossus' eyes.

Originally posted by Roldz
MI's blast field is probably activated by now, Arcknight should be able to bypass this energy barrier by absorbing the field therefore nullifying the effect.. Once again of no concern even if you can do it. Which you can not.

Originally posted by Roldz
He then dematerialized MI's swords/shields into gaseous form and discards it.... Even though Matter Manip is banned in this tourney on the opponent, and you may not even be allowed to change into Mist form. Let's just say you can you really think your going to change my swords when even Sersi can not:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6379/spowernogonc7.jpg

And while I'm on it I should let you in on a little secret even if you mist my swords are going to effect you. Remember when I said my Sword cuts everything no matter the material. I wasn't lying. Here he is dissipating the energy from a tornado. Oddly enough isn't that how your mist form is, I don't think your guy is going to be feeling very well by having his energy holding his body together dissipated:
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9914/bkdissipateenergyko6.jpg

Originally posted by Roldz
MI should be defenseless against psi-attack and open for a plasma spear assault.. Even with just a slight damage or injury from the spear, the opponents body should leak of bio-energy, the energy that powers his metallic body which can be farther drained by Warbirds/Binary's absorbing abilities.. Seeing as I'm not defenseless against your Psi attack I guess I'm not open.

But once again just for the fun of it because I just want to tell everyone how little chance you have even if get what you want. Meaning you get Binary's powers and Drain Cannonball's Shield. Then what. You still have to contend with BK's armor and Swords plus the fact my Steed can Mule Kick you from Behind. Once again even when you get what you want you loose.


So then I think I've shown everyone that most of his plan will not work:
-He will not get Binary's powers
-His TP won't work
-His mist if not already banned will not work
-His Plasma Spear will not work

Plus there are some very big advantages I still posses:
-Flight which he doesn't get
-The superior weapons
-The better durability
-Two possible ways to attack

Even if some you of believe he can do half the stuff he said I also showed where it still will not help. My guy is just superior.

c'mon already -- peanut gallery is getting bored!!

(and is about to be admonished by mod-man digi . . . )

This post is just for Leo


Newjak Post 2 of 8

Ok I'm going to take this time to really drive home somethings here.

First I will go over his battle plan.

TP Assualt
-He claims he is going to use TP against my mind to make me fight stupid and sluggish
-I have already shown Dane has a lot willpower on his own but that I also possess Psi Dampeners.
-He may try to claim that shield has no such devices. I think any comic book reader knows that just isn't true. They have worked with people that have built them. They have the most advanced tech on the planet. Heck they have handed them out over the years to people like Wolverine.

Point: His TP is completely useless.

The Dreaded Mist form
-He claims that he will mist through all of my attacks and Mist my swords.
-I have shown where Dane has already effected a mist like substance and how his swords can resist transmutation from Sersi.

Point: His mist form won't save him even if he is allowed to use it.

Summary: He literally has no advantages on me yet I have already shown where and how my weapons will hurt him while he has no escape. I still have flight he doesn't, I have an invincible body he doesn't, and I have the ability to attack from two directions he doesn't


Now this literally means his only chance of winning is trying to get Binary in this mess to save him.(even though I have already shown where even that will not help)

The Binary Code
-His plan is to use Dane's "Knowledge" and Backlash's TP to connect his person to a Whitehole.

There are just so many things wrong with this it isn't funny.

First the planning problems behind this:
-He expects for Dane to possess the Knowledge of how a Whitehole operates and where one is at or at least he has to. First Dane may not even know where one is much less how one operates.

-Secondly he expects Dane to be able to recreate the experiment the Brood used to to turn her into Binary. The big problem with this is that the Brood and Dane exist in separate Universes how would he even have a clue what the Brood did. Even if they were in the same universe unless he was directly at that place and time how would he know. Even if he gets Warbird's mind would she even know what they did to her. I don't think so.


Now for the equipment issues regarding this:
-He is expecting to just automatically tap into this Whitehole through TP. I don't know about you but the link was severed so how is it he is expecting TP to allow him to bind with a non sentient things. Plus I am sure more than TP was involved with her becoming Binary.

-He also plans on his TP being able to take the place of what the Brood did to her.

Point both the knowledge and powers needed to pull this task of elude Roldz's guy. The link was severed and there are too many what ifs for any rational person to think he will get Binary with his guy's abilities much less in ten minutes.

So he doesn't get Binary none of his other abilities help him in this match against my swords I win.

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*Sorry guys just having internet conection problem but its fine now i think..


scans not working.. Still how does Dane know where to get this specific material to make so called specific psi dampeners or where its at? + Shields helicarrier has gone through so many changes, finding and locating all necessary material would probably take more than the 10 min prep time..

As explained in the info section of my prep post the symbiotes has the ability to unlock latent ability of its host and also brings it to its maximum potential... Which means i gain access to all of Warbird abilities/powers (flight, absorbtion and blasting)..

Strait flight but doubt it can do so on tight corners, + i dont really trust bios, you know sometimes they can be deceiving..

No, not really.. Binary is capable of Warp speed and far more maneurable than your steed/blast field, Backlash misting abilities counteracts your sword not too mention Danes fighting skills not too shabby, in close quarter fighting my char. tramp yours ..

Cant see your scans..
Raw unfocused psi energy blast far differ than tp attack which is access through psi-plane.. Im not really counting on bringing you down with tp/tk attack anyway its just to distract you..

Then it should be over cap level then, i mean if it can cut through anything theres just no defense to it..

A sword can only be effective as long as the hand wielding it isnt hindered, My whips controled mentally is far more usefull and versatile than your skills w/ the sword..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=whipsfastbullet.jpg
My char can draw it as fast as a bullet, i doubt yours possess that fast of a reflex..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=controledwhips.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=controledhips2.jpg
Its versatile movements is controled mentally..

Getting a hold of your arms shouldnt be a problem, absorbing your bio-kinetic field would only makes this whips stronger..


As powerfull as that sword is, i dont see it cutting somethin near intangible.. Even an energy attack has no effect on my char. mist form..

Can you say Collussos agility/reflex faster than a velocity of a speeding bullet?

1) I think you where miss informed on that part..
2) We have full knowledge/experience in the use of the powers pick char. is what i understand..

So misting should'nt be a problem.. I dont see why he cant become Binary, the symbiote houses knowledge gathered through Eons of its existence. By diff. host.. Akin to how the Borg absorbed tech. and knowledge..

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As powerfull as that sword is, i dont see it cutting somethin near intangible.. Even an energy attack has no effect on my char. mist form..

Can you say Collussos agility/reflex faster than a velocity of a speeding bullet?


1) I think you where miss informed on that part..
2) We have full knowledge/experience in the use of the powers pick char. is what i understand..

So misting should'nt be a problem.. I dont see why he cant become Binary, the symbiote houses knowledge gathered through Eons of its existence. By diff. host.. Akin to how the Borg absorbed tech. and knowledge..


Severed and gone has a completely diff. meaning.. IE. A severed bridged can be rebuild again not gone..

Eons of knowledge/Wisdom far diff. than knowledge gain by a few hundred years..

Well thats exactly what im expecting the symbiote do, rebuild the link from the original energy source where Warbird gains her Binary form..
A) A skilled tp user can usually sense and detect a mentally tampered mind then fixed it; Emma Frost (Sentrys mind), Professor X (X-men), Moondragoon (Warlock, Maxima, Silver Surfer) has done similar thing..

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/Sym.jpg
This races possess vast tp and tk (time skipper/mind control/matter manipulation) abilities amp by the symbiotes with thousand of years of exp.

Heres some of Danes tp feat..
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=Danes.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=Danes1.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=wetworks_v1_028_19_rougher.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=Dane3.jpg
Danes tp skills which can be compared/equalled to Emma frost..

There are many more host w/ psionic potential this symbiote merge with in there existence.

All of these host exp/knowledge is absorbed and transfer to the nexus symbiote then to the original symbiote mass..

All the symbiote scattered through out the universe is link to the orginal mass.. A complete merges w/ its host allows the symbiote to fully accessed the host full potential, in my chars. case the Binary form..

Backlash Gen-factor (psionic energy) as the scalpel and the symbiote w/ wisdom from the orignal mass, as the guiding hand should be able to access and restablish the link to that energy source (whitehole)..

As you pointed out the link has only been severed but not gone, other wise thats what it would have writin on panel, "gone".. And as long as its only severed there is a good chance that it can be fixed..

The symbiote in Wetworks is just portions of the whole that travelled to learn.. Its not above cap level ..

No it depend on ones physical attribute, take the rest of wetworks; Maritza strength level peak human, Claymore and Danes enhance human while Dozer a muscle freak "Weight lifting as a hobby" 90-100 ton range..

Warbird at say 50 tonner at base amp that w/ the symbiote (able to amp a body builder to 90-100 tonner) well you do the math.. It could very well go above the 3600 tons ..

No! w/ the symbiote ability to accessed the body latent ability; Warbirds absorbtion/projection/flight/7th senses all this brought about by kree/human hybrid gens and is unlock..

not if you look at the overall of our amalgamated char. powers/ability..

Def. faster/agile considering Warbird is already far more agile than Collussos and then shes amp via my symbiote..

No, there is a weakness but ahm ill let you figure that out ..

Warbird dont need to be in Binary form to be able to absorb energy..

That moment should be enough time to turn your sword/shield/armor into mist form, then discard it..

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I still find it hard to beleived that your able to find the necessary material and build the psi-dampeners, specially with the changes of shield helicarriers from then to present..

Tp assault far differ than a psi-blast that theres not raw energy to absorb..

I can locate you via TP/EM spectrum scan/heat sig..

You cant absorb an attack you dont know where/when its coming from.

The point of the UV grenade explosion is to temporary blind/confused yah, absorbs blast field energy and then disarm and take your weapon for myself via mist..

Darth allowed this cept not against the opponent themselves just there weapon and equipment..

Ohh the Ebony blade Dane's in possesion is not the real one, I know his able to summon it by mystical ceremony but then again he really doesnt know it was messing in the first place.. When he finally figure it during combat, my char. wouldnt give him the opportunity to summon it..

This really is of no concern, his not in possession of the real sword.

My char. mist ability is brought about by dematerializing every single cell in his body into somethin akin to a fog/mist..

The sword absorb kinetic energy that made the tornado, none of those present in my char. mist form..

The armor/swords/shield can be disarm by misting it, heck he can use it against you..

The mule would be either blind by UV grenade, he cant mule kick what cant be touch.. Your pet is really irrelevant in this match..

Ill leave that to the Judge ..

-Psi-Dampeners he really does not have enough time to assemble it. even if he does it gets misted and useless
-You wouldnt know where to find it or the material need to build such 1 in so little time.. Shield hellicarier has been through so many changes doubt Dane would know its blue print.

-Your really dont have the real Ebony blade anyway..
-You meant the tornado, how is that similar to Backlash mist form..
All he did was absorb and redirected kinetic energy produce by the tornado, mist form differs from that..

Not Dane but the symbiote itself, fully merging and access to the original symbiote mass wisdom (Eons of stored knowledge, + gathered from the symbiote who seek to learned a new) .. Ive explained it in the post above.

Her Binary powers are still intact, she just needed a power source to maintain it..

Telepathic link enabled her to tap energy from the white hole in the first place, its only fair to assume that psi can fix the tp link to that source..

10 min is enough
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/latent2.jpg
It took very little time for the scan above to happen..

Sorry again, specially to Newjack ..

Newjak post 3 of 8
Originally posted by Roldz
Ohh the Ebony blade Dane's in possesion is not the real one, I know his able to summon it by mystical ceremony but then again he really doesnt know it was messing in the first place.. When he finally figure it during combat, my char. wouldnt give him the opportunity to summon it. Ok I'm just gonna go ahead and put a stop to this. Judges this point has already been brought up about a billion times in the discussion thread. Yes I have the Ebony Blade. Darth allowed it in. I have it there is no doubt about. Just ask Leo and he'll tell you

Originally posted by Roldz
scans not working.. Still how does Dane know where to get this specific material to make so called specific psi dampeners or where its at? + Shields helicarrier has gone through so many changes, finding and locating all necessary material would probably take more than the 10 min prep time.. Yes I will have Psi Dampeners

The fact is Shield has them completed I only have to find them and know how to operate them and seeing as Dane already has made them I do not think that will be problem.

As to how I find them seeing as Dane Whitman thinks an advanced Alien Starcraft's Computer's are Childish:
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/916/bktechknowledgeoq2.jpg
Heck he easily repairs ones that were damaged that day:
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9435/bkcomputerhj7.jpg

So needless to say then that I will find them through Shields computers seeing a Dane knows how to fix them and has used much more advanced ones before then I fly through the walls and the Speed of Sound and their ya go.

Originally posted by Roldz
As explained in the info section of my prep post the symbiotes has the ability to unlock latent ability of its host and also brings it to its maximum potential... Which means i gain access to all of Warbird abilities/powers (flight, absorption and blasting).. Ok then that you have clarified what you are doing it still won't work. The fact is that you drafted the full powered version of Warbird meaning you only get her strength and Durability. Leo was able to get full operated version of SH2 because he drafted the broken version so he could repair it. The fact is that your person isn't depowered they just do not possess those power period. They aren't there to be unlocked they are gone.

This also brings me to the Binary ordeal. The fact is that Binary's power are not there to be unlocked the link has been severed it to is gone. You are trying to convince people that severed doesn't mean gone but severed does mean to cut off. Just like if I severed your head(which I am doing) you head would no longer be on your body.

Plus you are still relying on the knowledge of someone from a completely different Universe as concrete proof that you are going to be able to produce something he wouldn't have a clue about. Not going to happen. He doesn't know how the Brood did it. He doesn't even know where the Brood did it. He doesn't even know what the Brood did it with.

You used the analogy that just because a Bridge has become broken doesn't mean it can not be fixed. That is true but then again you can not expect someone without the knowledge of how or the tools to make another bridge.




Ok I think that deals with the biggest part he was trying to say now I will go ahead and deal with some minor things he was saying.

His Whips
He thinks they are going to actually help him.
He thinks that they are going to be fast enough to beat my guy. My guy isn't slow.

He is able to defend a blast from Yellowjacket even though he did not know where it was coming from:
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4632/bkreactiontimeww4.jpg
Keep in mind I have two swords now.

I also will cut through his whips cause if he can cut down Firelords Cosmic Flame then:
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2535/bkfirelordrampagedr1.jpg
I wonder what effect having your weapons cut through will do to your guy. Even if all it means is you lost them that is enough.


His Mist
He is still clinging to this notion that being a mist will save him.
I've already shown where I can hit him in mist form. I've already shown how I can hit even energy. There is no form that can save him from being cut in half by my blades.

He also feels he is still going to mist my blades and take them from me. Despite the fact I already showed how Sersi couldn't do it I guess he needs more proof.
Here is the Grey Gargoyle even he can not turn Dane's Sword into Stone:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2928/bkgargoyleww1.jpg

But even if he could he can not keep my weapons from me even if he is holding them as I just summon them back:
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/121/bkgivememyswordnh1.jpg

So if he was trying to use my weapons I just summon them back and stab him anyways.

I think that about covers everything.

He doesn't have Binary and the fact that he has to try and use feats from other Telepaths to try and prove his point furthers shows his guy just isn't capable of pulling it off.

His misting form will not save him.

I do have Psi Dampeners.

He doesn't get all of Warbird's powers. Even if he did it will not help as the same thing happens in air as it does on the ground. I stab him through the chest.

Newjak post 4 of 8

Now that I've got that out of the way I'm gonna go ahead and take my time to explain this next post. It is very important so I will show you in detail what I mean.

First what I am doing:
I will deliver the death Blow with the Ebony Blade. The reason is so I can drain his soul into my blade. This makes me more powerful and also allows me to gain his abilities. In essence I just did what Leo did except I actually gained his powers.

Now I will show you that he does absorb the souls of people and it does make him stronger:

Here is Bloodwraith showing that the Blade does Absorb the soul of its Victims:
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7172/bloodwrathsouldabsorbtiqg1.jpg

So then we now see that the Blade does absorb Souls when it kills people.


Here it shows that by killing people it makes the person wielding the blade stronger:
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9512/bloodwrathsoulpowerrj6.jpg

Ok then here is Bloodwraith wondering if he absrobs Sersi will he gain her powers:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3325/bloodwrathsersispowernoca3.jpg

He has no idea just how true he was about those words

Now I will show what happens with that by introducing the Proctor who is Dane Whitman from another universe an exact duplicate of him:
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6834/bkproctormy1.jpg
So Proctor=Black Knight throughout that series they commonly showcased that.


Now a quick list of other abilities that the Proctor had:
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/1616/proctoepowersye5.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/6703/proctoreyebeams2bu0.jpg
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1408/proctoryetmorepowersoe2.jpg
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9103/proctorchemicalms0.jpg
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/3856/proctoreyebeamscr2.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5449/proctormorepowerslp9.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5942/protortoomanypowersig0.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3594/protctorpowernumberei9.jpg


Man that is a lot of powers for someone who is Dane Whitman's exact copy. I mean all his powers seem so similar to another avenger at the time. If you are perplexed let me show what is going on.

This next scan rolls everything into one it shows Proctor admitting he is Dane Whitman, It shows he does possess the Ebony Blade, and that he killed Sersi with it:
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3364/proctorebonybladehisvo0.jpg


So now let me just kind of put this all together for you. When I kill Roldz guy my Blade will absorb his soul into the Blade making me stronger. Not only that but I will also gain his powers.

So as of right now this is what I just got:
Backlash:
TP/TK
Whips
Mist(seeing as it wasn't banned I guess)

Warbird:
Strength
Durability
and if you believe what he says, Flight and Energy Abilities


So then I just got stronger for the next round

Edit: I just wanted to add this in. I do not think I will get any of Dane's abilites seeing as it comes from the Symbiote and the Blade can not absorb tech like that.

5 of 8


Yes, but you still need clarify how you managed to acquire the blade, The bio says that EB was stolen and replaced w/ a faky, So how is it possible that you have the true EB in this match? less you specificly call for it, and that requires time..

So your sayin that all Shields hellicarrier has em, yet when Exodus attack one of Shields heli-carrier, i see none of its high ranking officer warez it, that incl. Mariah Hill acting director and they had ample time to acquire it..
Another reason why i think most shields heli-carrier, does not carry em is becaused they have there own psi-defense personal that blocks psi-attacks..
Shield agents does not wear them on special ops operation against psi-opponents like Cable.
If they had such equipment why none of em warez it..

What i understood was that when picking the body you get there physical attribute but the rest of the bodies char. abilities still there your just unable to use/access it, unless of course you've got something that turns those abilities on, like Wetworks symbiote..
I've already discuss this to Darth..

Your wrong on that, her binary gen code still there.. What this means is that her mental link to her Binary form still intact, and there should be psionic traces of her original powersource.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Ms._Marvel_Repowered.jpg
temporary powered by the collective..

It just need someone or something w/ the right tools to rebuild the link..
The Wisdom (Akin to the watchers library) of the original symbiote mass w/ psionic energy as its tool should very well be capable of it..

The symbiote is not trying to redo the whole process of Binary's incarnation but only to fixed the broken mental link to her powersource.

The symbiotes ones merged a race w/ matter/energy/time manipulation, tp and tk abilities through there vast psionic potential.
This beings exp and skills where absorb and transfered in the symbiotes.. The skills/exp absorbed from this beings alone w/ gen-factor (Psionic energy) Backlash powers should be enough to fixed that severed link..

That i agree w/ you..

The symbiotes does posses this knowledge and the tools to accomplish such event..

Knowledge
- Wisdom given by the master races (Symbiotes maker), + gained from absorbing host.. Incl. a race w/ vast psionic abilities and Danes own exp..
- Eons of learning/exp through host absorbtion..

Tools
- Backlash gen-factor which is vast raw psionic energy..

His was already aware that someone is in that room; "lights turned on"
Yellow Jacket blast is not exactly at speeding bullets velocity..

The whips movement can be redirected unlike FL's straight line energy blast, its difficult to cut energy that moves at any direction w/ but a thought..

Danes knows how to create tandoms of energy construct through solid psionic energy.. My char. can create as many whips, all of it can move at a bullets velocity, it'll eventually break your defense..

Actually ive still yet to see the sword cutting somethin akin to a mist or air.. The tornado feat was more of a energy absorbtion/manipulation..

It really doesnt matter dough cause you've yet to explained how you acquire the Ebony Blade..

Well i know the ebony blade couldnt mist it, but then again its not really there cause its never in your hands on the first place it being stolen .. Ill leave that to the Judge..

Just for clarification Roldz, I already approved his having the EB during the draft rounds, so he DOES have it at the start of the match.

Well kay..
Guess its just that i thought it was stolen, is all.. I know he can get it back via mystical encantation but that requires time..

When is this match over?

Ive got a few more post to do but ive got to do somethin important first..

Originally posted by Roldz
Well kay..
Guess its just that i thought it was stolen, is all.. I know he can get it back via mystical encantation but that requires time..

When is this match over?

Ive got a few more post to do but ive got to do somethin important first..
Midnight(my time). So there's still 3 hours and 6 minutes left.

Newjak post 5 of 8


Originally posted by Roldz
So your sayin that all Shields hellicarrier has em, yet when Exodus attack one of Shields heli-carrier, i see none of its high ranking officer warez it, that incl. Mariah Hill acting director and they had ample time to acquire it..
Another reason why i think most shields heli-carrier, does not carry em is becaused they have there own psi-defense personal that blocks psi-attacks..
Shield agents does not wear them on special ops operation against psi-opponents like Cable.
If they had such equipment why none of em warez it Wolverine has been given them by Shield before when he has been sent out on missions and that Dane has built his own means yes Shield does have them and I can get it

Originally posted by Roldz
Your wrong on that, her binary gen code still there.. What this means is that her mental link to her Binary form still intact, and there should be psionic traces of her original powersource.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/Ms._Marvel_Repowered.jpg
temporary powered by the collective.. You are using the Collective the thing that killed all of Alpha flight as proof that you can do it

Even though it never actually mentions in your scan her turning into Binary


Originally posted by Roldz
It just need someone or something w/ the right tools to rebuild the link..
The Wisdom (Akin to the watchers library) of the original symbiote mass w/ psionic energy as its tool should very well be capable of it..

The symbiote is not trying to redo the whole process of Binary's incarnation but only to fixed the broken mental link to her powersource.
The point is it is Broken and you are going off the idea that somehow, somewhere your symbiote has run across something similar to this even though it comes from a different Universe. Tell me how you can guarantee that it even has a remote idea of what it is doing beyond saying it has vast knowledge you can not. Heck show me where Backlash has even close to the power to do what you want and I'll show you a banned character.

Originally posted by Roldz
The symbiotes ones merged a race w/ matter/energy/time manipulation, tp and tk abilities through there vast psionic potential.
This beings exp and skills where absorb and transfered in the symbiotes.. The skills/exp absorbed from this beings alone w/ gen-factor (Psionic energy) Backlash powers should be enough to fixed that severed link.

That i agree w/ you..

The symbiotes does posses this knowledge and the tools to accomplish such event..

Knowledge
- Wisdom given by the master races (Symbiotes maker), + gained from absorbing host.. Incl. a race w/ vast psionic abilities and Danes own exp..
- Eons of learning/exp through host absorbtion..

Tools
- Backlash gen-factor which is vast raw psionic energy.. Yadda Yadda Yadaa my guy has great knowledge so of course he has knowledge of how to do this. You can not show he knows how to do this you are simply putting it on blind faith that it does and blind faith isn't enough.

You are also placing blind faith that Backlash's power will be enough even though once again you can not.

Originally posted by Roldz
His was already aware that someone is in that room; "lights turned on"
Yellow Jacket blast is not exactly at speeding bullets velocity..

The whips movement can be redirected unlike FL's straight line energy blast, its difficult to cut energy that moves at any direction w/ but a thought.. He still didn't know where the attack was coming from and last time I checked I do know you are here and it isn't like there are too many places for you sneak up on me and I can still just as easily get the drop on you seeing as you can not mind rape me.

And if you are moving your whips away from my swords what is protecting.
Originally posted by Roldz
Actually I've still yet to see the sword cutting something akin to a mist or air.. The tornado feat was more of a energy absorbtion/manipulation.. And say it with me what are Tornadoes made up off...


OK people this is what this match comes down to, Advantages. I have them he doesn't.

Flight: Either I have it or we both do. So either I do have an advantage or it is a push

Strength: He has yet to actually show if the Symbiote really multiplies the person's strength in which I am inclined to say no. I'll put it this way if someone put the Venom Symbiote on Colossus would he all of sudden be boosted to abnormal levels. No it would probably do nothing for Colossus' strength. So unless you are trying to say you could stick this on Superman and all of sudden he is moving thousands of planets at once then no it doesn't do what you are saying.

Reaction: I have already shown my guy blocking numerous oncoming rockets at once. He has easily deflect energy bolts and even managed to guard himself against Firelord's attack. I don't think his guy is going to be running circles around me.

Weapons: Do I even need to go into this one. Sword of Light and Ebony Blade>>>>then his weapons

Durability: Once again a very lopsided edge to me. Why do think he is adamant about trying to convince you I can not hurt him in mist form because he knows that his normal body his like butter beneath my swords. He on the other hand by his own strategy has to hit me about five times.



Battle recap
So I am the only one with real advantages in this match.

-Now I will break down his attack strategy:
-He is going to find me
-Blind me without blinding himself
-Absorb my Cannonball shield
-Attack me with some Plasma Blade that he may not even have.
-Hope his weapon actually gets through both my my swords and my -Black Knight Armor and then he hopes his Blade will cut Colossus through all of that and kill me in one blow and before my shield can re-energize itself. While my horse doesn't kick him from behind.

My Plan: Get close and slash him to death short and simple

You see his entire plan in fact the only way he could think of beating me is by getting in close range combat against me. He even has to do this as Binary. Even as Binary that isn't where he want to be. He plays into my strengths.


He is relying on getting the drop which he hasn't proved he can. Blinding me without blinding himself. Get his whips close enough to my shield to drain it. Then get through my armor and blades with a weapon he needs Binary to make and he doesn't even have Binary and hope he does it before my shield kick back up and hope that one attack is enough to do it.


All I need is one shot with my weapons and he is all to happy to get close enough for me to use them and I have already shown that either in mist form or out my blades will hurt him.


So who are you going to take the guy whose entire match has been nothing but a lot of what ifs and hopeful luck or the guy that can definitely win this in one blow?

I think you would put your money on the guy who can win in one blow and that is me. Roldz just has to have way to many things go his way to even get the shot at beating me.

Thus Vote Newjak.

6 of 8

Regarding the soul stealing abilities:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7172/bloodwrathsouldabsorbtiqg1.jpg

- it looks like it needed blood for this to work, and requires the death of an opponent..
* You'd only be stabbing air, You've yet to prove that the ebony blade affects my mist form..

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9914/bkdissipateenergyko6.jpg
"My sword only diffusing some of its energy, my arm well give out way before the vortex does" His diffusing the Kinetic energy the vortex produce to make the tornado, slowing its spin; its an absorbsion feat..
It by no means is similar to Backlash mist form..

*7th senses also afford me to read all your movements, then counter attacks according to your stats..

So no the Ebony blade wouldnt work on my mist form..

- Dane can also steals and destroys ones souls..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=wetworks_v1_028_19_rougher.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=Dane3.jpg
Here he kills the souls that powers and is connected to the soulbender..
His also able to protect his soul from being stolen by this same entity (another reason why soul sucking wont work), symbiotes healing abilities combines that of Backlash healing gen-factor.. Itd be like stabbing Wolverine w/ a normal sword (instant healing)

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=Danes1.jpg
Here it shows he can manipulate and affect the soul.. "Slam a barrier between there souls and the virus..
He was also able to absorb and meld there consciousness to his, and learn skillz through that..

Here's whats going to happen when NJ character decides to pull that move..

- Arcknight mist/dodge (read via 7th senses), MI blastfield is probably down at this instant (Blade need touch the body)

At this point my char, would have a few option for a beat down;

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=halfmist1.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=wconstruct.jpg
Mist form and attack you via plasma lance..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=colossus24.jpg
heres what happened to Collussos, after being slash by a shiar plasma lance..

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/Collusosbioenergy.jpg
leaking w/ bio-kinetic energy

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/MsMarvel/IronManIII24p09.jpg
Bio-kinetic energy farther absorbed through Warbirds absorbing ability draining all of it in..

Proctor, Dane from another reality.. You know how realities differ from each other.. Some chars eithers is stronger or weaker..

35 minutes till the match ends

Originally posted by Roldz
6 of 8

Regarding the soul stealing abilities:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/7172/bloodwrathsouldabsorbtiqg1.jpg

- it looks like it needed blood for this to work, and requires the death of an opponent..
* You'd only be stabbing air, You've yet to prove that the ebony blade affects my mist form..

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/9914/bkdissipateenergyko6.jpg
"My sword only diffusing some of its energy, my arm well give out way before the vortex does" His diffusing the Kinetic energy the vortex produce to make the tornado, slowing its spin; its an absorbsion feat..
It by no means is similar to Backlash mist form..

*7th senses also afford me to read all your movements, then counter attacks according to your stats..

So no the Ebony blade wouldnt work on my mist form..

- Dane can also steals and destroys ones souls..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=wetworks_v1_028_19_rougher.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=Dane3.jpg
Here he kills the souls that powers and is connected to the soulbender..
His also able to protect his soul from being stolen by this same entity (another reason why soul sucking wont work), symbiotes healing abilities combines that of Backlash healing gen-factor.. Itd be like stabbing Wolverine w/ a normal sword (instant healing)

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=Danes1.jpg
Here it shows he can manipulate and affect the soul.. "Slam a barrier between there souls and the virus..
He was also able to absorb and meld there consciousness to his, and learn skillz through that..

Here's whats going to happen when NJ character decides to pull that move..

- Arcknight mist/dodge (read via 7th senses), MI blastfield is probably down at this instant (Blade need touch the body)

At this point my char, would have a few option for a beat down;

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=halfmist1.jpg
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=wconstruct.jpg
Mist form and attack you via plasma lance..

http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/?action=view&current=colossus24.jpg
heres what happened to Collussos, after being slash by a shiar plasma lance..

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa312/RRoldz/Collusosbioenergy.jpg
leaking w/ bio-kinetic energy

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Scans/MsMarvel/IronManIII24p09.jpg
Bio-kinetic energy farther absorbed through Warbirds absorbing ability draining all of it in..

Proctor, Dane from another reality.. You know how realities differ from each other.. Some chars eithers is stronger or weaker..

Newjak post 6 of 8
You do realize I'm not stealing your soul until after you are dead and just for laughs you do realize my blade is magic I would love for you to show me a scan of him resisting magic because if you can not then your Soul Is Mine.

The rest of this I have already covered.

Mist is form is no go. I've shown him cutting energy, dissipating it, cutting air. Your guy's mist is not protecting you

And you are relaying a lot on this 7th sense where you have yet to prove it effect in combat. I have never seen it used like a Spider sense or a wya to keep her from avoiding attacks

And yes they were exact doubles it was a major point of the story.

Heck they said the Swordsman from that alternate reality fought and acted the exact same way as the original. The Coal Tiger was proven the exact match of Black Panther. These beings were in every shape and form the same as the originals. Heck it is why they couldn't exist in the same reality for too long without going insane.

Oh well it is too late to edit it in so I'll just go ahead and add this is on as my seventh post


Appratnyl Blood isn't need as much as you think Roldz:
Vision doesn't have blood and he was phasing through the wall when he got hit:
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/525/bloodwrathvisionownedzb4.jpg

So now I've show my sword cutting through a tornado, through energy, through cosmic flame, and now a phased Vision. What more proof do you need that my sword will cut your mist form.

Then explain why some of the shield helicarrier agents or high ranking official gets mind raped everytime someone like exodus or X-men attacks..
- This just shows not every heli-carrier carries this equipment..
- Hacking the computer, then reading the blue prints and finding so called psi-dampeners recalibrating it for his use or finding parts of it requires more than 10 min..
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/916/bktechknowledgeoq2.jpg
Well it just shows how lotech that shiar ship is ..
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9435/bkcomputerhj7.jpg
I dont see him hacking, he just repaired it, a familiar tech unlike shields advance technological tech..

Im just showing you that Warbird binary form is still accessible via right powersource..

Repairing somethin mentally is not that far fetch..

The symbiote is not looking for a star/wormhole/whitehole and make another link.. But rather restablish/repair that broken link..

Its like when Danes and team 7 gen factor stolen/taken, he was still able to access his powers via the symbiotes.

http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mattermanipulationdeathnr1.jpg
The symbiotes link mentally link to the stolen gen factor and allowed Dane access to its powers.. During fires from heaven saga..

Backlash gen-factor is also amp by the symbiotes.. Meaning it increased its potency..

Soulbinder is magic.. He resisted its soul sucking abilities..

Strength: My char. is a lot stronger
Absorbsion: Makes the blastfield usefull a no, + it also amps my char..

Ahh, thats as far as im gonna go.. i hope its not to late..lol

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh well it is too late to edit it in so I'll just go ahead and add this is on as my seventh post


Appratnyl Blood isn't need as much as you think Roldz:
Vision doesn't have blood and he was phasing through the wall when he got hit:
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/525/bloodwrathvisionownedzb4.jpg

So now I've show my sword cutting through a tornado, through energy, through cosmic flame, and now a phased Vision. What more proof do you need that my sword will cut your mist form.
I quess ive got time.. Darn..lol

It looks like he materialized after coming out the wall..

so no.. he didnt hit someone phased..hehe

Ohh, im referring to the soul sucking technique..
it looks like its needing blood shed..

whew . . . CLOSE fight . . .

glad i'm not judging this one.

Originally posted by leonidas
whew . . . CLOSE fight . . .

glad i'm not judging this one. Quit posting.

Originally posted by Badabing
Quit posting.

Originally posted by Badabing
Quit posting.

Originally posted by Scoobless

Originally posted by leonidas


Quit posting in match threads. Use this:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/447567_1-darthgoobers-amalgam-tourney-discussion-thread

Originally posted by Badabing
Quit posting in match threads. Use this:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/447567_1-darthgoobers-amalgam-tourney-discussion-thread You had me so excited Bada. I thought you might have been a judge and you posted your verdict

Originally posted by Newjak
You had me so excited Bada. I thought you might have been a judge and you posted your verdict I'm not sure what you mean....


Edit: I am a judge in this match.

No one had posted in over 8 hours before you brought it up Bada ... and, frankly, it didn't look like anyone had anything else to say ... until now.

Originally posted by Scoobless
No one had posted in over 8 hours before you brought it up Bada ... and, frankly, it didn't look like anyone had anything else to say ... until now.

I know. I had a busy day at work and felt like harassing people.

Originally posted by Badabing
I'm not sure what you mean....


Edit: I am a judge in this match. Than Vote already

Originally posted by Newjak
Than Vote already The match is over?

Originally posted by Badabing
The match is over? Yes it ended last night hence why I haven't replied to Roldz

Originally posted by Newjak
Yes it ended last night hence why I haven't replied to Roldz

Give him a break, he's trying to word his vote diplomatically so you don't get upset when he uses euphemisms to basically say you got uber-pwned.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Give him a break, he's trying to word his vote diplomatically so you don't get upset when he uses euphemisms to basically say you got uber-pwned.


Originally posted by Badabing
Quit posting. dur

Originally posted by Badabing
Quit posting.
Originally posted by Badabing
dur



nuts4









headshotkmc

Originally posted by Scoobless
Give him a break, he's trying to word his vote diplomatically so you don't get upset when he uses euphemisms to basically say you got uber-pwned.


You could have let me down a little easier Scoobs cryoh

Originally posted by Scoobless
nuts4









headshotkmc

Guys, seriously. Give it a break or take it to the discussion thread

I will have my vote ready late tonight or tomorrow morning. Sorry for the delay.


badabing

Judge's Vote

Thoughts:

Roldz:
- Binary was a clever idea
- But I'm not sure you defended it well enough. Eons of XP doesn't mean much if it's from an entirely different universe. And saying things like "There should be psionic traces of the power source" sound fancy, but it was never backed by anything credible.
- I was never convinced that you could simply give her extra powers anyway. She's a body character, which = strength and durability. The only reason leo was able to do something similar with his is because goober specified that cyborgs are merely "turned off", since their powers often are their body. No such distinction was made for others.
- Mist form is definitely an advantage. Mist is still tangible, so it's not invulnerable or untouchable, but I felt like it was one of your trump cards in this match.

Newjak:
- I never fully believed that you'd find and or build a psi-dampener.
- Fortunately for you, Roldz never pressed his tp advantage much, saying he'd only use it sparingly as a distraction.
- I'll avoid the soul-suck thing, since it doesn't directly affect this match anyway. Even if your point is correct and leo's doing the same thing, absorbing BP's skills and some tech knowledge doesn't amp DHII past the caps for a single character...but absorbing other peoples' power and abilities probably will.

...

Overall, I just felt like Roldz' claims were too shaky to believe in, despite a clever premise and some good debating given the people you were working with. Part of me wanted to vote for you because you used Wildstorm people, and I appreciate drafting indie characters and I was also passingly familiar with these two. But psi-dampeners or not, Newjak put together a better offensive strategy that was simple but effective.

Vote: Newjak

...

Congrats boys, and good job.

Judge's Vote

This was a tough match. Honestly, I wasn't buying some of the powers that were thrown around in this battle but the amalgams were good. This battle came down to consistency for me. Roldz has a powerful character but didn't use it to the full potential. Newjak didn't convince me that his character was going to have a high resistance to telepathy.

My vote is for Newjak. He was more consistent with his plan throughout the battle. Roldz could have won this match if he had focused on his powers more and speculated less on what he may be able to do.

Roldz, you're really becoming a good debater and will be a force in tournaments very soon.

Newjak........in a photo finish.

Well, here is my vote.

Both sides made good arguments. Both had very clever ideas. However, I believe that Newjak's plan was ultimately a bit more solid. He never really had to prove anything (besides the psi-dampener thing) and his attack plan was feasible. While Roldz had a good basis, he never conclusively proved much in my opinion. In my opinion also, Newjak's character can simply take down Roldz's character faster then the other way around, because of his speed and nigh-unstoppable sword that can cut through pretty much anything.

So I am voting for Newjak.

I vote Roldz.

Newjak post 8 of 8

I Win



Now Sir Fuzzy The Lumpkins AKA Maximum Impact gets the night off to do what he does best

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/4600/pimpinkq0.jpg

*switches vote because of newjak's last post*

Originally posted by DigiMark007
*switches vote because of newjak's last post* Come on like you didn't let out a little laugh

Originally posted by Newjak
Come on like you didn't let out a little laugh dur

Originally posted by Badabing
dur

Originally posted by Newjak

By the way the check's in the mail

Originally posted by Newjak
By the way the check's in the mail What? I, uh, don't know what you mean. What's this "check" thing you are referring to? sweat








durfist

Originally posted by Badabing
What? I, uh, don't know what you mean. What's this "check" thing you are referring to? sweat








durfist Well its in the mail that's all you need to know dur

Originally posted by Newjak
Well its in the mail that's all you need to know dur Are you still refferring to this "check" thing? Is that what you are referring to?













Dammit, I told Newjak to sent the funds to my Paypal account! I wonder if he realizes postage is $.41 now?

Congrats to NEWJACK..

Luck in your next match, wouldnt be a walk in the park like this one..

Originally posted by Roldz
Congrats to NEWJACK..

Luck in your next match, wouldnt be a walk in the park like this one.. Trust me this wasn't a walk in the park you are a very good debater don't sell yourself short.

Originally posted by Roldz
Congrats to NEWJACK..

Luck in your next match, wouldnt be a walk in the park like this one.. Dude, you did good. I've judged quite a few matches. When I see a newer person go up against a KMC veteran it seems that the newer person doesn't explain their strategy as well as the veteran. I think you'll do very well next time.

Thanks..

Ahmm, Im still waiting on that check man..

And add another 0 in it, i made it look good ..

Originally posted by Roldz
Thanks..

Ahmm, Im still waiting on that check man..

And add another 0 in it, i made it look good ..

You did didn't you hmm

*Adds another Zero*

Tthhenk yah, nice doing business with Yah..