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OK, play god. We have 100 people stuck on an island. We have wooded area, swamps and ocean (can't drink the water).

We have to keep all 100 people alive by making sure we have good water supply and sewage, none are built yet. And, we have to ensure we pay the 50 men and 50 women their share of work.

How do you handle overpopulation (bras are burning, people having children but not enough food reserves for everyone)?

How would you handle mfg clean water for drinking and for sewage?


What if you allocate work hours and people start to join another island?

How would you handle sickness and disease and education?

Would you go to war to solve overpopulation?

What about crop failure?

How would you institute a money system, as you are able to trade with neighboring islands (as you an war with them to take their production as well and lower your overpopulation)?

What about natural disaster?

How would you handle crime, people stealing food rashings for each other?

overpopulation isn't in the lack of land mass, as it is in the lack of resources compared to the surplus population....

you don't have to answer all of the questions, just whatever clever thing you can think of...

Are half these people gay? Or do the gay people get an island of their own in this one too?

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
OK, play god. We have 100 people stuck on an island. We have wooded area, swamps and ocean (can't drink the water).

We have to keep all 100 people alive by making sure we have good water supply and sewage, none are built yet. And, we have to ensure we pay the 50 men and 50 women their share of work.

How do you handle overpopulation (bras are burning, people having children but not enough food reserves for everyone)?

How would you handle mfg clean water for drinking and for sewage?


What if you allocate work hours and people start to join another island?

How would you handle sickness and disease and education?

Would you go to war to solve overpopulation?

What about crop failure?

How would you institute a money system, as you are able to trade with neighboring islands (as you can war with them to take their production as well and lower your overpopulation)?

What about natural disaster?

How would you handle crime, people stealing food rashings from each other?

Originally posted by Devil King
Are half these people gay? Or do the gay people get an island of their own in this one too?

Is soul switching another potential issue?

Originally posted by Devil King
Are half these people gay? Or do the gay people get an island of their own in this one too?

half are gay, they need partners and are convincing the straight people (who we are counting on for the next generation) to go gay, more then what would sustain the system 20 years from now....it's not that we don't want our population to decline 20 years from now as we will be forced to export labor from the neighboring island we may war with later for little of no value compared to the manhours we would have to feed....as the gays in this island get bored with the same partner and need to explore and get "new" meat...but since they don't regulate this, they take more partners then what the system is alloting for in "gay couple hood".

There is no solution. Food is the cause of over population, Cut off food source, population goes down

What color are these people?

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
half are gay, they need partners and are convincing the straight people (who we are counting on for the next generation) to go gay, more then what would sustain the system 20 years from now....it's not that we don't want our population to decline 20 years from now as we will be forced to export labor from the neighboring island we may war with later for little of no value compared to the manhours we would have to feed....as the gays in this island get bored with the same partner and need to explore and get "new" meat...but since they don't regulate this, they take more partners then what the system is alloting for in "gay couple hood".

So, let's see if I understand.

The gays will be on a seperate island, but they'll be "feeding off" the population of the straight island due to their inability to be monagamous, and straight people's inability to not be gay? This is all coupled with the fact that there's going to be a war of some kind?

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
There is no solution. Food is the cause of over population, Cut off food source, population goes down

or go on an expedition to find islands that have more food then men/women, and see how many are willing to leave to the other island (hope they get treated well), trading food cargo for humans?

Originally posted by Devil King
So, let's see if I understand.

The gays will be on a seperate island, but they'll be "feeding off" the population of the straight island due to their inability to be monagamous, and straight people's inability to not be gay? This is all coupled with the fact that there's going to be a war of some kind?


hope not, as it's a gay friendly island as long as the infuence doesn't effect the core population needed to produce the children to sustain the work load 16-20 years from now. If too many go gay, then what happens 20 years later when they are about to retire and not enough men and women to take over the new jobs (and let's say we end up having natural desasters that effects the population, but now they don't want to reproduce b/c they are all gay)...ooooooooo...i'm oversimplifying it....but just in general......

your thinking from the "now" point of view of fun and rights....the issue is now and also the future and how to handle overpopulation, it could happen via war or famine/natural desaster, not necessarily b/c of reproduction...if we have a famine and we lose a lot of men, more men to work the land is gone, but we recover with food to supply us for the next season, we are still overpopulated b/c of the amount of food source.


i use to hear this as a little girl, that our food supply was running low, but i always wondered about when the 1960s came out with this idea of twiggy...to be that skinny, you need to only eat 3 times a week, the less people eat, the more food we have available or don't have to produce....

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
hope not, as it's a gay friendly island as long as the infuence doesn't effect the core population needed to produce the children to sustain the work load 16-20 years from now. If too many go gay, then what happens 20 years later when they are about to retire and not enough men and women to take over the new jobs (and let's say we end up having natural desasters that effects the population, but now they don't want to reproduce b/c they are all gay)...ooooooooo...i'm oversimplifying it....but just in general......

I have a perfect solution... Do not allow the straight people to gay-morph until they'd had at least two children. Will that work?

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
or go on an expedition to find islands that have more food then men/women, and see how many are willing to leave to the other island (hope they get treated well), trading food cargo for humans?

that wouldnt solve anything other than having more land to store a rapidly growing population. More food means more children.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
There is no solution. Food is the cause of over population, Cut off food source, population goes down *Cough*Malnutrition*cough*

Originally posted by JacopeX
*Cough*Malnutrition*cough*

That's his point... Less food = Less People *cough* duh *cough*

fascist! (just b/c my figures are typing fast and i miss a letter doesn't mean i don't know how to spell moron).

you would starve off the masses!

what if more work is needed 20 years from now, but the population declined too much, as just b/c we now starved off our undesirables, doesn't mean that the others don't end up dieing from cancer or food poison before they can reproduce, and we need time for the children to work, can't start them working on the field by age 5, (child labor laws), we wait until they are 10, no just kidding, wait until they are at least 17, all that time, we have to feed them and cloth them...what is great "now" may not be great 5-10 years from now.

who do we kill off first? not the doctors or builders? the old people? the ones no one likes? the ones who were born with a disease?

what if a plague hits us right after we kill off the right amount of people...now we have food, but we don't have enough workers to keep the food harvested for next season...

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
your thinking

Well, aren't you glad one of us is?

Learn to spell fascist before you accuse, cretin.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina

what if a plague hits us right after we kill off the right amount of people...now we have food, but we don't have enough workers to keep the food harvested for next season...

We sell the excess food at a profit and buy slaves?

what i am trying to suggest is that life is a dynamic system, what "solves" the problems of today may ripple in the negative effect 5-10 years from now, may have shortsighted gains b/c of issues of disease, natural disaster, birth defects, inner fighting/crime/killings....and killing people off only sounds good when it's not you or your loved ones....be compassionate leaders!!!

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
what i am trying to suggest is that life is a dynamic system, what "solves" the problems of today may ripple in the negative effect 5-10 years from now, may have shortsighted gains b/c of issues of disease, natural disaster, birth defects, inner fighting/crime/killings....and killing people off only sounds good when it's not you or your loved ones....be compassionate leaders!!!

Holy Hell! You're saying that what "we" do today can have consequences for future generations? No one has EVER thought of that before, you're a fcking genius-philosopher.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
what i am trying to suggest is that life is a dynamic system, what "solves" the problems of today may ripple in the negative effect 5-10 years from now, may have shortsighted gains b/c of issues of disease, natural disaster, birth defects, inner fighting/crime/killings....and killing people off only sounds good when it's not you or your loved ones....be compassionate leaders!!!

What about all the hoodoo following black people, we can kill them off, right?

Originally posted by Robtard
We sell the excess food at a profit and buy slaves?

ok, but the slaves run away b/c they see other islands near by and didn't like the lack of work options and no luxury...and ok, let's say that slaves work out for now....but


flash forward to 100 years from that date, after the surplus, the slave's children go on an attack against the people who you were managing..


it's not easy being leader...and who is going to be chief? What if the people you manage start to kill each other off due to ego issues? They just go on drive-bys (with horses)...again, who will you pass the leadership onto, your son? one of the slaves sons? what if the slaves son decides to make the "other" people slaves just for revenge...all awhile there is killings/famine/disease...not enough doctors and nurses...

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
ok, but the slaves run away b/c they see other islands near by and didn't like the lack of work options and no luxury...and ok, let's say that slaves work out for now....but


flash forward to 100 years from that date, after the surplus, the slave's children go on an attack against the people who you were managing..


it's not easy being leader...and who is going to be chief? What if the people you manage start to kill each other off due to ego issues? They just go on drive-bys (with horses)...again, who will you pass the leadership onto, your son? one of the slaves sons? what if the slaves son decides to make the "other" people slaves just for revenge...all awhile there is killings/famine/disease...not enough doctors and nurses...

No, no... slaves don't run away, not after you hobble them.

You keep the slave population in check with infanticide.

Sure it is... You build a loyal military and run your society through brute force and discipline.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's his point... Less food = Less People *cough* duh *cough* But we cant starve people......or is he trying to find anyway to cut the life exp? Because there are more better way obviously.

Introduce disease as a predator to curb the growth of the population. Administer cure to certain %

Problem solved.

I think overpopulation would be the least of this agrarian hunter gatherer's problems.

Food and water shortages are not necessarily problems of overpopulation. While a lower population may alleviate the problem, since it does not NECESSARILY stem directly from too many people being there, it isn't the issue.

The biggest concern would be lack of expertise or actionable knowledge about an island living condition. The skills any of us have would only be of limited use in the wilderness, and adapting, or the lack thereof, to this new ecosystem would be much more salient a concern than the moderate effects of a "large" population.

Originally posted by JacopeX
But we cant starve people......or is he trying to find anyway to cut the life exp? Because there are more better way obviously.

what do you suggest? what would be a better way (besides decreasing the rashings for everyone to feed the extras)?

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
Introduce disease as a predator to curb the growth of the population. Administer cure to certain %

Problem solved.


don't feel badly if you aren't elected as god or lord for a while...but if it were all comedy like in a cartoon, it would be a funny skit...like in south park or something...

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
don't feel badly if you aren't elected as god or lord for a while...but if it were all comedy like in a cartoon, it would be a funny skit...like in south park or something...

My solution solves all of your problems. A death rate elevated to equal the birth rate curbs the amount of resources it takes to sustain the population.

You see it in every ecosystem on the planet. There always needs to be a predator to curb population. Everyone has a predator except humans, and that's why our population is going beserk.

Originally posted by inimalist
I think overpopulation would be the least of this agrarian hunter gatherer's problems.

Food and water shortages are not necessarily problems of overpopulation. While a lower population may alleviate the problem, since it does not NECESSARILY stem directly from too many people being there, it isn't the issue.

The biggest concern would be lack of expertise or actionable knowledge about an island living condition. The skills any of us have would only be of limited use in the wilderness, and adapting, or the lack thereof, to this new ecosystem would be much more salient a concern than the moderate effects of a "large" population.

ok, but let's say there is only 75% of food avaiable do crop failure or because of extra mouths from babies, it really doesn't matter, and some of the 75% is from veggies and protein in milk and fishing...the amount of food is related to the amount of people who can eat, if there are more mouths then food because of either direction (food failure or population explosion), we still are stuck figuring out what to do with the remaining 25% who are going to starve (it doesn't matter how either one became out of balance right now). do we kill off the 25%? do we keep the doctors and nurses and throw out the old people or the sick?

what food?

you are on a jungle swamp island surrounded by salt water?

these are people, I am assuming in Lost style, who just landed there

If you mean more of an Easter Island scenario, its cannibalism.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
My solution solves all of your problems. A death rate elevated to equal the birth rate curbs the amount of resources it takes to sustain the population.

You see it in every ecosystem on the planet. There always needs to be a predator to curb population. Everyone has a predator except humans, and that's why our population is going beserk.

Let's say we did that, see overpopulation is like fat, our body or system keeps it for survival even though, if kept along for the ride for too long,can be systematically unhealthy...but it comes in handy if we are ever starving...

Let's say we do kill of the 25%,and now we have just above the amount of food in surplus (because we lowered the rashings for all and stored the rest via pickeling the food in salt/vinegar)...but we didn't consider that wild rats in the woods got to the food source and now most of the ones healthy enough to work are now dieing from a virus...we already killed off 25% of our healthy people b/c we didn't forsee the viral attack.

Originally posted by inimalist
what food?

you are on a jungle swamp island surrounded by salt water?

these are people, I am assuming in Lost style, who just landed there

If you mean more of an Easter Island scenario, its cannibalism.

coconut tree, banana trees, teas/herbs (to treat illnesses), potatoes b/c someone saves a bunch of seeds...fish and some wild live stalk...

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Let's say we did that, see overpopulation is like fat, our body or system keeps it for survival even though, if kept along for the ride for too long,can be systematically unhealthy.

Let's say we do kill of the 25%,and now we have just above the amount of food in surplus (because we lowered the rashings for all and stored the rest via pickeling the food in salt/vinegar)...but we didn't consider that wild rats in the woods got to the food source and now most of the ones healthy enough to work are now dieing from a virus...we already killed off 25% of our healthy people b/c we didn't forsee the viral attack.

You don't have to lower rations if the population is under control from the disease. Your logic is flawed there.

However, if some ''rats'' did start to reduce the food supply, elimate the rate problem. The human population takes a hit but so what? Shit happens. Dispense more vaccinations and let the population get under control again.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
Let's say we do kill of the 25%,and now we have just above the amount of food in surplus (because we lowered the rashings for all and stored the rest via pickeling the food in salt/vinegar)...but we didn't consider that wild rats in the woods got to the food source and now most of the ones healthy enough to work are now dieing from a virus...we already killed off 25% of our healthy people b/c we didn't forsee the viral attack.

that then becomes a problem of sanitation due to lack of proper technology or storage facilities. A larger more productive society would be a solution to this problem

If whatever island you are on has a viable food crop and land to grow, overpopulation won't affect your society for hundreds of years

blah

Originally posted by inimalist
that then becomes a problem of sanitation due to lack of proper technology or storage facilities. A larger more productive society would be a solution to this problem

If whatever island you are on has a viable food crop and land to grow, overpopulation won't affect your society for hundreds of hears

but most of the world's population has had problems with plagues and viruses, that has killed off good workers and left the population with nothing but a bunch of young kids who have to raise themselves...think about the history of the world and about how they pick their leaders, and how food supply is effected, and how they deal with overpopulation due to lack of food (not land, that's a different story)...and DISEASE (from food, animals, sex, airbourn...)

so explain to me why 100 people can't live on the island you are talking about

describe the exact reason why you don't think it works

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
but most of the world's population has had problems with plagues and viruses, that has killed off good workers and left the population with nothing but a bunch of young kids who have to raise themselves...think about the history of the world and about how they pick their leaders, and how food supply is effected, and how they deal with overpopulation due to lack of food (not land, that's a different story)...and DISEASE (from food, animals, sex, airbourn...)

GOOD.

Disease is there to curb the population.

Originally posted by inimalist
so explain to me why 100 people can't live on the island you are talking about

describe the exact reason why you don't think it works

it can work, but it's not the managing of the static 100, it's managing the fluctuation in food, which effects population, and managing sickness (in food, livestock, people)/etc., natural disasters, and what if they decide not to work or go on strike? what if they decide to start revolting and having babies all at the same time? or start killing each other out of jealousy or ego issues? what if someone is power hungry and wants to kill off the leaders so that they can do a "better" job?

A friend of mine had a great idea for this.

Make a button, everytime you push it it randomly kills 10,000 people. Then you just push it over and over until it kills you.

Their population will be governed by their food supply.

their food supply will be based primarily upon available land.

if you only have just enough food for 100 people, and there is no way to produce more, you will never have too many people. Or you might, but it will be limited

your social issues are just as relevant in a society that is underpopulated

Originally posted by inimalist
Their population will be governed by their food supply.

their food supply will be based primarily upon available land.

if you only have just enough food for 100 people, and there is no way to produce more, you will never have too many people. Or you might, but it will be limited

your social issues are just as relevant in a society that is underpopulated

well, the food for 100 is due to quality too, as we don't feed them mold (causes them to go crazy or develop cancer) or foods that developed a certain kind of fungus that we found out sickens people...and we can still produce more, but it depends on the crop/land and the weather.

the social issue is typical in the inner city....lots of killings b/c of pety conflicts, ego issues, etc.

Plus:

pre-industrial societies normally have such large families due to the high likelihood of child mortality. High birth rates in this society would be essential for any longevity.

yes, in many cases this (child mortality) was due to malnutrition, but poverty would have played a much more significant factor than overpopulation, and disease mixed with the lack of all basic forms of hygiene or sanitation would still be much more deadly.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
well, the food for 100 is due to quality too, as we don't feed them mold (causes them to go crazy or develop cancer) or foods that developed a certain kind of fungus that we found out sickens people...and we can still produce more, but it depends on the crop/land and the weather.

the social issue is typical in the inner city....lots of killings b/c of pety conflicts, ego issues, etc.

none of this is a problem with overpopulation

Hahahaha, that's sooo whob

Originally posted by inimalist
none of this is a problem with overpopulation

if the crops for the seasons have been continuing to produce only 73% of what's need to feed all 100 and about 2% from fishing...we are still left with too many people, (25% less then what we can afford to feed) not enough food to feed people, from the stand point of the 75%, we are overpopulated.

We unleash a super-virus that turns everyone into a brain-munching zombies! Theeen we hide a vaccine on the island and the first one to get it gets to survive and asexually produce, recreating the entire island population, thus not ending the problem, but bringing it in full circle. So then.... I suppose this post was a waste of space. Ah well...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
We unleash a super-virus that turns everyone into a brain-munching zombies! Theeen we hide a vaccine on the island and the first one to get it gets to survive and asexually produce, recreating the entire island population, thus not ending the problem, but bringing it in full circle. So then.... I suppose this post was a waste of space. Ah well...

yeah, but we don't have the tools to receate the super-virus...

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
yeah, but we don't have the tools to receate the super-virus...

Oh yes, my friend, we do! I have friends who work in fields of bio-something-whatchit... and they're close to cures for many diseases. She also has told me about a super-virus that was being planned. It has the potential to virtually eliminate the human race. That's strong chemicals their mixing... and if it happens to turn people into zombies... I guess there's no clearer course of action, but total annihilation!

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Oh yes, my friend, we do! I have friends who work in fields of bio-something-whatchit... and they're close to cures for many diseases. She also has told me about a super-virus that was being planned. It has the potential to virtually eliminate the human race. That's strong chemicals their mixing... and if it happens to turn people into zombies... I guess there's no clearer course of action, but total annihilation!

this was suppose to be a thought exercise, not for my benefit, but for the general folks who may not even think it terms of scarcity of resources...if you want to take it this way, go ahead...i already took my jr. Economics undergrad class many years ago and got a B or an A, if it was a B, it was one point away from an A.

i can care less if you mock the whole idea, it was a gift to help us think in certain terms, if you want to take it as a form of mockery or someone is stupid or whatever, then go ahead, free country....but the intent was to allow us to think in terms of playing "god" and yet, projecting different "problems" and seeing if we can EMPATHIZE, as this is what we expect from our very leaders.

thanks for helping me see another aspect of how certain minds work!

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
this was suppose to be a thought exercise, not for my benefit, but for the general folks who may not even think it terms of scarcity of resources...if you want to take it this way, go ahead...i already took my jr. Economics undergrad class many years ago and got a B or an A, if it was a B, it was one point away from an A.

i can care less if you mock the whole idea, it was a gift to help us think in certain terms, if you want to take it as a form of mockery or someone is stupid or whatever, then go ahead, free country....but the intent was to allow us to think in terms of playing "god" and yet, projecting different "problems" and seeing if we can EMPATHIZE, as this is what we expect from our very leaders.

thanks for helping me see another aspect of how certain minds work!

Lighten up dudette it was just a joke. Besides, someone of the stuff I said, concerning the super-virus and other such things were true. Can't a guy have a little fun (at the expence of a board's dignity)? Seriously, don't think for a second that our Government is truthful in any way! We've had conspiracies all through time, 9/11 being one of the most recent. Listen, I'm quite sure that you can realize for yourself that everything has a reason. Overpopulation is just one of many results of government screw-ups. If they really WERE stuck on an island I suppose I would assemble the strongest and have the rest put to... alternative treatment. As for disease our smartest would try to create a vaccine using the DNA from the sourse of the epidemic...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Lighten up dudette it was just a joke. Besides, someone of the stuff I said, concerning the super-virus and other such things were true. Can't a guy have a little fun (at the expence of a board's dignity)? Seriously, don't think for a second that our Government is truthful in any way! We've had conspiracies all through time, 9/11 being one of the most recent. Listen, I'm quite sure that you can realize for yourself that everything has a reason. Overpopulation is just one of many results of government screw-ups. If they really WERE stuck on an island I suppose I would assemble the strongest and have the rest put to... alternative treatment. As for disease our smartest would try to create a vaccine using the DNA from the sourse of the epidemic...


i haven't heard of dudette in a long time!!!!!!!! lol


we (Americans) are the democratic gov't (really republic), it's not a kingdom or monarch, "we" pick our leaders...so, "we" are the ones to blame, see, if we had a king, we could blame the king/monarchy, but we are the ones who decide if we want to support war or not, we are the ones who support certain vaccinations for cervical cancer or not..."we" are the ones responsible, "we" are the ones who fought for freedom and other reasons as well...."we", when "we" look back at history, it's bad to look at it as if it's not "us", "we" have to do better and be better citizens, that's what makes this country great.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
OK, play god. We have 100 people stuck on an island. We have wooded area, swamps and ocean (can't drink the water).

We have to keep all 100 people alive by making sure we have good water supply and sewage, none are built yet. And, we have to ensure we pay the 50 men and 50 women their share of work.

How do you handle overpopulation (bras are burning, people having children but not enough food reserves for everyone)?

How would you handle mfg clean water for drinking and for sewage?


What if you allocate work hours and people start to join another island?

How would you handle sickness and disease and education?

Would you go to war to solve overpopulation?

What about crop failure?

How would you institute a money system, as you are able to trade with neighboring islands (as you an war with them to take their production as well and lower your overpopulation)?

What about natural disaster?

How would you handle crime, people stealing food rashings for each other?
Kill all the blacks, Jews, and homosexuals, IMO.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Kill all the blacks, Jews, and homosexuals, IMO.

there aren't any on the island, HA, now what do you do to solve the problems!!!!!!!!!11

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
there aren't any on the island, HA, now what do you do to solve the problems!!!!!!!!!11
Wait until they get born. They can pop up anywhere that genetic defect is allowed.

What doesn't make it great however is that some people squander their rights as Americans. Say a couple thousand people say "Hey it's just one vote! Who cares if I don't vote?!" Then on the night of the elections President "I-suck-really-bad" is chosen for office by exactly one thousand votes. America is only as good as the person running it and it does happen to be a superpower. Civiliation crumbles and in turn because America is so powerful all of it's Allies crumble as well. The world ends and well all live a poverished life, all because of a thousand boneheads...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Lighten up dudette it was just a joke. Besides, someone of the stuff I said, concerning the super-virus and other such things were true. Can't a guy have a little fun (at the expence of a board's dignity)? Seriously, don't think for a second that our Government is truthful in any way! We've had conspiracies all through time, 9/11 being one of the most recent. Listen, I'm quite sure that you can realize for yourself that everything has a reason. Overpopulation is just one of many results of government screw-ups. If they really WERE stuck on an island I suppose I would assemble the strongest and have the rest put to... alternative treatment. As for disease our smartest would try to create a vaccine using the DNA from the sourse of the epidemic...

when i was a little girl, i spent most of my time in preperation for virology, but i ended up changing my desire for it in high school b/c of my position on using rats/animals as test experiments (that's what the rats get for hiding all those viruses which caused plauges in Europe, being cariers/conduits/hosts for bateria and viruses, for that kind of work that they did in European history, they get to be our lab specimen...that's a joke).

anyway, viruses/bacteria, when i was little (12-13 years old), i was trying to figure out the frequency of vibration for certain viruses (that information IS HARD TO GET, even when I was a little kid), as with resonance, once you know the frequency of vibration, you can now control the viruses/bacteria's life, I often wondered about their ability to mate with each other (splice and crimp dna of various microorganism)...all the stuff that is being cooked up today, i have no part in it, but was once a strong desire when i was a young girl, and did a lot of research on viruses and bacteria, mainly to see how they can work for us, even maybe in machine parts.

so, no doubt, these oranisms don't necessarily have to be our enemy.


i can't wait for them to come out with a protein-scan that will do a chemistry analysis of the brain and it's function, then go about the organs in the body to search for any imbalance in dna strain, insulin, hormones, cancers, viruses/microbs, toxic elements (mercury)...and then, after it does a full intelligence scan, it reports the stored information to the brain, signaling a person that they need to seek outside help to get rid of the xyz or get more vitamin xyz.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Wait until they get born. They can pop up anywhere that genetic defect is allowed.

Genetic defect? How many racial slurs can one person make in a lifetime before they realize that everyone is over discrimination...

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
when i was a little girl, i spent most of my time in preperation for virology, but i ended up changing my desire for it in high school b/c of my position on using rats/animals as test experiments (that's what the rats get for hiding all thos viruses and being cariers in Europe, they get to be our lab specimen...that's a joke).

anyway, viruses/bacteria, when i was little (12-13 years old), i was trying to figure out the frequency of vibration for certain viruses, as with resonance, once you know the frequency of vibration, you can now control the viruses/bacteria's life, I often wondered about their ability to mate with each other (splice and crimp dna of various microorganism)...all the stuff that is being cooked up today, i have no part in it, but was once a strong desire when i was a young girl, and did a lot of research on viruses and bacteria, mainly to see how they can work for us, even maybe in machine parts.

so, no doubt, these oranisms don't necessarily have to be our enemy.

Technically fleas gave rats the bubonic plague. They weren't exactly the ones to blame...

I know it was a joke...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
What doesn't make it great however is that some people squander their rights as Americans. Say a couple thousand people say "Hey it's just one vote! Who cares if I don't vote?!" Then on the night of the elections President "I-suck-really-bad" is chosen for office by exactly one thousand votes. America is only as good as the person running it and it does happen to be a superpower. Civiliation crumbles and in turn because America is so powerful all of it's Allies crumble as well. The world ends and well all live a poverished life, all because of a thousand boneheads...
That's a little melodramatic.

Originally posted by FeceMan
That's a little melodramatic.

But is it false?

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Technically fleas gave rats the bubonic plague. They weren't exactly the ones to blame...

I know it was a joke...

rats are great carriers (hosts, conduits) and they breed fast and a bunch of other reasons that is related to our body/system.

ops, i should have included animal rights vs experimentation in the duality argument!

CCCCCOOOOOONNNNNSSSSSPPPPIIIIIIRRRRAAAACCCCYYYYY!!

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
But is it false?
Yes.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Yes.

Not entirely... All those things are plausible (well maybe I overexagerated abit). Still it doesn't make it complete blasphemy. You can't honestly say that things concerning government don't have domino effect...

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Not entirely... All those things are plausible (well maybe I overexagerated abit). Still it doesn't make it complete blasphemy. You can't honestly say that things concerning government don't have domino effect...
Bush interfered with the moon's gravitational pull. We're flying into the sun right now.

Damn those lazy blacks who didn't get out to vote.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Bush interfered with the moon's gravitational pull. We're flying into the sun right now.

Damn those lazy blacks who didn't get out to vote.

Racial slurs = BAD!

And I never said the government was responsible (directly) for the planets falling out of orbit (yet). I just happen to think that if people stopped taking advantage of their rights the way they do that a better world *cough* Utopia *cough* could exist...

*Sighs.*

I was being not-serious.

Originally posted by BackFire
A friend of mine had a great idea for this.

Make a button, everytime you push it it randomly kills 10,000 people. Then you just push it over and over until it kills you.

What if you die the first go?

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
What doesn't make it great however is that some people squander their rights as Americans. Say a couple thousand people say "Hey it's just one vote! Who cares if I don't vote?!" Then on the night of the elections President "I-suck-really-bad" is chosen for office by exactly one thousand votes. America is only as good as the person running it and it does happen to be a superpower. Civiliation crumbles and in turn because America is so powerful all of it's Allies crumble as well. The world ends and well all live a poverished life, all because of a thousand boneheads...

Electoral college. Your entire post is nullified. G'day mate.

Originally posted by FeceMan
*Sighs.*

I was being not-serious.

And that makes it ok?

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
What if you die the first go?



Electoral college. Your entire post is nullified. G'day mate.

-goes weak kneed- Thank you?

Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
And that makes it ok?
Yes.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Yes.

You're a twisted twisted man that makes me laugh...

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
OK, play god. We have 100 people stuck on an island. We have wooded area, swamps and ocean (can't drink the water).

We have to keep all 100 people alive by making sure we have good water supply and sewage, none are built yet. And, we have to ensure we pay the 50 men and 50 women their share of work.

How do you handle overpopulation (bras are burning, people having children but not enough food reserves for everyone)?

How would you handle mfg clean water for drinking and for sewage?


What if you allocate work hours and people start to join another island?

How would you handle sickness and disease and education?

Would you go to war to solve overpopulation?

What about crop failure?

How would you institute a money system, as you are able to trade with neighboring islands (as you an war with them to take their production as well and lower your overpopulation)?

What about natural disaster?

How would you handle crime, people stealing food rashings for each other?

If I was in that situation; marooned with 99 other people, I'd just leave them and go into the jungle and live by my lonesome.

Id do that for two main reasons:

Number one: I trust my damn self more than anyone else.

Number two: I hate when people decide to declare themselves boss and start ordering people around. And that would be inevitable in that situation; warlordism and everyone becoming cut-throat would be rampant. So I'd avoid that altogether by taking my chances on my own.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
If I was in that situation; marooned with 99 other people, I'd just leave them and go into the jungle and live by my lonesome.

Id do that for two main reasons:

Number one: I trust my damn self more than anyone else.

Number two: I hate when people decide to declare themselves boss and start ordering people around. And that would be inevitable in that situation; warlordism and everyone becoming cut-throat would be rampant. So I'd avoid that altogether by taking my chances on my own.

If everyone thought like you, we would still be in a jungle with no highways orrrrrrrr internet...we would be divided, man against man, dog eat dog. I hope our elected officials don't think the same way that you do, if so, heaven help us.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
If everyone thought like you, we would still be in a jungle with no highways orrrrrrrr internet...we would be divided, man against man, dog eat dog. I hope our elected officials don't think the same way that you do, if so, heaven help us.

Que quieras, idiota?

In that situation it would be dog-eat-dog.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
If everyone thought like you, we would still be in a jungle with no highways orrrrrrrr internet...we would be divided, man against man, dog eat dog. I hope our elected officials don't think the same way that you do, if so, heaven help us.

I think Freak Woman Avi / Darryl Hannah Knock-Off Sig Lady is actually a leader of some country, looking for advice on how to run it from KMC users, actually.

Originally posted by botankus
I think Freak Woman Avi / Darryl Hannah Knock-Off Sig Lady is actually a leader of some country, looking for advice on how to run it from KMC users, actually.

Which country?

Japan or Djibouti, take your pick.

Originally posted by botankus
I think Freak Woman Avi / Darryl Hannah Knock-Off Sig Lady is actually a leader of some country, looking for advice on how to run it from KMC users, actually.

Yeah, I think Freak Woman with a baby on her lap and glorified McDonalds raid is looking for attention, but, I could be wrong.


My motives for this thread (only if you can read):

this was suppose to be a thought exercise.
i can care less if you mock the whole idea, it was a gift to help us think in certain terms, if you want to take it as a form of mockery or someone is stupid or whatever, then go ahead, free country....but the intent was to allow us to think in terms of playing "god" and yet, projecting different "problems" and seeing if we can EMPATHIZE, as this is what we expect from our very leaders.




Anyway, for those who would do the extreme, this one is for you:





Sell the kids for food
Weather changes moods
Spring is here again
Reproductive glands

He’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
Knows not what it means
When I say


knows not what it means
knows not what it means
knows not what it means

When I say Yeah

Quoting Nirvana songs. Ouch.

Originally posted by Czarina_Czarina
How do you handle overpopulation (bras are burning, people having children but not enough food reserves for everyone)?

its those damn blacks fault

mandated euthanasia for everyone over the age of 75......

Originally posted by fruits
mandated euthanasia for everyone over the age of 75......

Good idea. I'd like to amend and improve that proposal with mandated euthanasia for everyone between 15 and 18. A Children of Men sorta thing, but in a good way.

THis doesnt sound like playing god it seems more like playing governor of nowhere. This is also a much more generic question than overpopulation alone, because in nature disease and everything IS the overpopulation control, sadly.

As leader I would focus on getting off that island. You could have a population law, but if no one followed it (which they wouldnt), you would still end up with more children...etc...

Another solution would be to just provide no medical care to adults over 50 or 60 or something, at the natural death age, maybe, so they can still live hypothetically for a long time they just cant get medical care.

Theres really no humane way to control population, except which has been mentioned first about population laws, but on a tropical honeymoon island people would find it hard to follow that, unless they killed the kids...which would be even worse.

Land is an issue too.

Originally posted by botankus
Good idea. I'd like to amend and improve that proposal with mandated euthanasia for everyone between 15 and 18. A Children of Men sorta thing, but in a good way.
I like the way you think.....except unfortunaetly, that would include me...im 17...

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I would not care what happens to anyone. Including myself.


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If however my girlfriend were in this 100 I would go out of my way to make sure we both had food and shelter, but to hell with everybody else. It's not like i'll be screwing them in the butt.

Poison the banannas.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Poison the banannas.
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This might just work. The left is as a whole, a bunchof fecal-throwing apes.. Poisoning banannas may very well exterminate them and leave the more competant, evolved humans to create a utopian.