What Will Go Through Your Mind When You See Jesus?

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JesusIsAlive

xmarksthespot
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
(the actual dimensions of the city in Heaven)
(color of the city but not the actual dimensions)After giving this some "serious thought" I LedMFAO. ROFFLECOPTER worthy. vin

Crimson Phoenix
More importantly, what will go through your mind if you dont see jesus.

Burning thought
seriously hmmm difficult to say really, id probably be amazed and confused at the same time that he excisted as well, id probably like to have a chat with him actually, a friendly chat

the city however would frighten me, billions all in one enormous city, seem a little overwhelming, also how would you traverse it, say i wanted to get to the other side?

fini
lol, when I see jesus, I will think why on earthand heaven did people like you come to be?

debbiejo
The earth is wearing a hat. blink

ThePittman
eek! No paragraph breaks, to much to read, getting lost in the blue, my eyes are burning.

siriuswriter
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

The foundations of New Jerusalem are twelve precious stones (jasper, sapphire, chalcedony, emerald, sardonyx, sardius, chrysolite, beryl, topaz, chrysoprase, jacinth, and amethyst).

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7425/foundation12njnd3.jpg



Proof that Jesus is pro-gay rights.

smile

Symmetric Chaos
I'm gonna think:

So . . . the hair . . . yeah this guy's totally on the side of Bush and Co.

ThePittman
Originally posted by siriuswriter
Proof that Jesus is pro-gay rights.

smile laughing

Rogue Jedi
I will ask him "hey, whats up with the platypus?"

ThePittman
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I will ask him "hey, whats up with the platypus?" That was after he created pot stick out tongue

Ashestoashesjc
"What the f*ck took so long?"

You said seriously...

Ashestoashesjc
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I will ask him "hey, whats up with the platypus?"

And he'll answer "Well after I made out with this weird looking duck... one thing led to another..."

God apparently has no preferences....

Gregory
"Huh. Look't that."

Ashestoashesjc
Originally posted by Gregory
"Huh. Look't that." laughing

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Burning thought
seriously hmmm difficult to say really, id probably be amazed and confused at the same time that he excisted as well, id probably like to have a chat with him actually, a friendly chat

the city however would frighten me, billions all in one enormous city, seem a little overwhelming, also how would you traverse it, say i wanted to get to the other side?

Burning thought I appreciate your truthful answer (thank you).

Some people who have experienced a near-death experience (NDE) and have gone to Heaven describe moving from place-to-place by thought. For example, they describe being able to walk, jump, and run, but also being able to just think about where they want to go then traveling there simply by thinking it.

So if you decide to trust Jesus for salvation and then go to Heaven, you will be able to travel by by thought as well as by walking or running.

(Again, thank you for your thoughtful answer Burning thought.)

Ashestoashesjc
Mental Teleportation? Cool! But, lemme ask you something. You believe in the Supnatural, correct? Then you also believe in ghosts? In order for people to become ghosts they must be stuck on the Earthly plain. For them there is no Heaven or Hell until another force pushes the into the afterlife...

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Mental Teleportation? Cool! But, lemme ask you something. You believe in the Supnatural, correct? Then you also believe in ghosts? In order for people to become ghosts they must be stuck on the Earthly plain. For them there is no Heaven or Hell until another force pushes the into the afterlife...

I never said that I believe in ghosts. What you refer to as ghosts are really demons.

Ashestoashesjc
Again I ask you, prove it. Demons are evil. I've never encountered an evil ghost, which by the way is refered to as a polterguist. There are some spirits that merely wish to pass on to the nest life, but can't. Everything that can't be explained is not a demon.

JesusIsAlive

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
Again I ask you, prove it. Demons are evil. I've never encountered an evil ghost, which by the way is refered to as a polterguist. There are some spirits that merely wish to pass on to the nest life, but can't. Everything that can't be explained is not a demon.

I'm not proving anything, that is not the purpose of this topic.

AngryManatee
where's my boomstick?

Burning thought
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Burning thought I appreciate your truthful answer (thank you).

Some people who have experienced a near-death experience (NDE) and have gone to Heaven describe moving from place-to-place by thought. For example, they describe being able to walk, jump, and run, but also being able to just think about where they want to go then traveling there simply by thinking it.

So if you decide to trust Jesus for salvation and then go to Heaven, you will be able to travel by by thought as well as by walking or running.

(Again, thank you for your thoughtful answer Burning thought.)

np, moving by thought would definatley be easier than walking across the whole city laughing out loud

Shakyamunison
This thread is nothing but fiction.

Burning thought
imo true, but i like fiction, dwarves, dragons etc etc, love em...Dragons esecially..World of warcraft!!

fini
wait, did he say that ghosts are demons? SO the holy ghost is also a demon then?

debbiejo
eek!


Besides those pictures mean nothing since the bible says the "man cannot imagine what god has in store for them" But he could of designed a nicer looking building, maybe something feng shui.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Burning thought
imo true, but i like fiction, dwarves, dragons etc etc, love em...Dragons esecially..World of warcraft!!


Ya, I like fiction too, but I also know that it's fiction.

debbiejo
It's the Borg.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by debbiejo
It's the Borg.

It's not a very good city plan.

Bicnarok
...Multicoloured unreadable waffle

What a load of bollocks

ThePittman
Originally posted by debbiejo
It's the Borg. Then sign me up smile

debbiejo
It's that Square that the Muslims go too......Jesus is Muhammad!! eek!

lord xyz
What you should be thinking when you see Jesus is, "I don't remember this being in the Bible".

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by debbiejo
It's that Square that the Muslim go too......Jesus is Muhammad!! eek!

We want the fun god!
We want the sun god!
Fun god! Sun god!
Ra! Ra! Ra!

ThePittman
And it's got a gym

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i244/caslandr/misc/imgad.png

debbiejo
Jesus wouldn't stick a Square on the earth...That's just plain silly. Where's a woman when you need one.

WORSHIP THE FUN GOD FOR HE IS THE SUN GOD RA RA RA!!

For you Adam......lol

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Burning thought
np, moving by thought would definatley be easier than walking across the whole city laughing out loud

Why not do both?

debbiejo
Spirits don't need a building.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by debbiejo
Spirits don't need a building.

But a limited man-god does. wink

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by AngryManatee
where's my boomstick?

?

Devil King
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
(the city is 1,500 miles high, 1,500 miles long, and 1500 miles wide!). The jasper wall of New Jerusalem is 600 feet high!

Jesus definitely does not need a city this size for Himself.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/5585/pic7ja06fp9.jpg (the actual dimensions of the city in Heaven)

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2670/newjerusalem2ux7.jpg (color of the city but not the actual dimensions)

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/250/newjerusalem3mm7.jpg (the dimensions of the city relative to the United States)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9425/newjerusalemcomparedtotyv9.png (the dimensions of the city relative to the moon)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/5830/earthnf7.jpg (the city relative to the earth)

The foundations of New Jerusalem are twelve precious stones (jasper, sapphire, chalcedony, emerald, sardonyx, sardius, chrysolite, beryl, topaz, chrysoprase, jacinth, and amethyst).

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7425/foundation12njnd3.jpg



happy



http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DevilKing1138/rotj059.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DevilKing1138/ds1tj2.gif

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DevilKing1138/DeathStar2.jpg

ThePittman
laughing

fini
BLOI!!!!

debbiejo
Jesus is coming to kill us..... eek!

siriuswriter
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7425/foundation12njnd3.jpg


But Devil King, where's your rainbow of love for the Death City?

debbiejo
^^ I see that when I drop acid.......like wow man...... cool

BobbyD
...ask Him to see my attempts to do what his Father wished for me to do, even though I have veered from that path on many occasion. I will thank Him for the good life, blessings and gifts he has bestowed upon me, my family, and friends. I will apologize that He had to die for me, an unworthy human/person of His sacrifice. I will ask him to not look at the evil deeds I've committed, but the few good kind acts that hopefully speak louder. I will thank Him for being there when I needed Him, even though I didn't realize/acknowledge that He was even there. I will plead with Him to spare my soul.

Devil King
Originally posted by BobbyD
...ask Him to see my attempts to do what his Father wished for me to do, even though I have veered from that path on many occasion. I will thank Him for the good life, blessings and gifts he has bestowed upon me, my family, and friends. I will apologize that He had to die for me, an unworthy human/person of His sacrifice. I will ask him to not look at the evil deeds I've committed, but the few good kind acts that hopefully speak louder. I will thank Him for being there when I needed Him, even though I didn't realize/acknowledge that He was even there. I will plead with Him to spare my soul.


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DevilKing1138/smeagol.jpg

BobbyD
Your point?

Goddess Kali

Devil King
Originally posted by BobbyD
Your point?

My point, is that you take the question possed by this thread as seriously as the thread starter pretends he does.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by BobbyD
...ask Him to see my attempts to do what his Father wished for me to do, even though I have veered from that path on many occasion. I will thank Him for the good life, blessings and gifts he has bestowed upon me, my family, and friends. I will apologize that He had to die for me, an unworthy human/person of His sacrifice. I will ask him to not look at the evil deeds I've committed, but the few good kind acts that hopefully speak louder. I will thank Him for being there when I needed Him, even though I didn't realize/acknowledge that He was even there. I will plead with Him to spare my soul.

BobbyD, thank you for your honest, truthful, sincere reply (that is what I am looking for, a serious, thoughtful reply). But I would like to make one correction. You mentioned that you would apologize that Jesus had to die for you. This is not true, Jesus chose to die for you because He loves you. But Jesus was under no obligation to die for you.

Goddess Kali
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
BobbyD, thank you for your honest, truthful, sincere reply (that is what I am looking for, a serious, thoughtful reply). But I would like to make one correction. You mentioned that you would apologize that Jesus had to die for you. This is not true, Jesus chose to die for you because He loves you. But Jesus was under no obligation to die for you.





I thought God forced Jesus to die..... confused

BobbyD
Originally posted by Devil King
My point, is that you take the question possed by this thread as seriously as the thread starter pretends he does.

I see. Well, that only God truly knows. I won't go there, but you are most certainly entitled to an opinion. I thought you saying what if Jesus looked like Golem or that clown when I visit him? eek!


laughing out loud

JesusIsAlive
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BobbyD
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
BobbyD, thank you for your honest, truthful, sincere reply (that is what I am looking for, a serious, thoughtful reply). But I would like to make one correction. You mentioned that you would apologize that Jesus had to die for you. This is not true, Jesus chose to die for you because He loves you. But Jesus was under no obligation to die for you.

Understand and agree. ...is the way I see it nonetheless.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I thought God forced Jesus to die..... confused

Jesus willingly went to the cross. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one God; They agree about everything.

Goddess Kali
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus willingly went to the cross. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one God; They agree about everything.


So God talks to himself ? confused

ThePittman
I guess I'm not honest now either sad

Goddess Kali
wait...God is his own father ? confused

Goddess Kali
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
So God talks to himself ? confused

And God is his own father ?

He is also his own son ?

And the Holy Spirit is another dude ? Like a threesome ?

I don't get it....

JesusIsAlive
UGpxfoF3SYg

Goddess Kali
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
UGpxfoF3SYg


That's the hottest porn I ever seen, thanks JIA droolio

Robtard
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
UGpxfoF3SYg

Wait... he's from "The Hills Have Eyes" cast.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
And God is his own father ?

He is also his own son ?

And the Holy Spirit is another dude ? Like a threesome ?

I don't get it....

One God does not mean one Person, it means one God. God is manifested in three Persons. For example, water is defined as a chemical substance that has three states: liquid, solid, and gas. Well, God is a Spirit Who has three states (or manifestations): Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Each Person is God yet individual just like liquid, ice, and water vapor are all still water, yet they have various manifestations of that water. God also has three manifestations: Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit.

Robtard
JIA... I've thought about your "What would..." question; when I die and if I do indeed "see" Jesus. I will then have no choice but to accept that the Bible was factually written; I will both apologize to and recognize Jesus as the 'one savior'. Since he's about forgiveness and redemption, I'm certain he'll give me a nice lofty condo (with a view I hope) in this moon sized city. Win-Win.

Devil King
rULq2GHd8EI

Robtard
The female-angel-santas were hot.

Goddess Kali
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
One God does not mean one Person, it means one God. God is manifested in three Persons. For example, water is defined as a chemical substance that has three states: liquid, solid, and gas. Well, God is a Spirit Who has three states (or manifestations): Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Each Person is God yet individual just like liquid, ice, and water vapor are all still water, yet they have various manifestations of that water. God also has three manifestations: Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit.


Makes some sense...questions:



1) If there is a father and son, where is the mother ?


2) What is the Holy Spirit, like a baby sitter between Father and Son ?


3) Why are there three male aspects and no female aspect ? Is God Gay ?


4) Why does God need/have manifestations ?


5) Which is the punisher or wrathful aspect ? Father, Son, or Holy Spirit ?


6) I thought Evangelicals rejected the beleif in the Holy Trinity ?

siriuswriter
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus willingly went to the cross. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are one God; They agree about everything.

"Let this cup pass from my lips" sure doesn't sound like agreeing to me.

Robtard
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
One God does not mean one Person, it means one God. God is manifested in three Persons.

Why would Jesus then say to himself, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."?

ThePittman
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
One God does not mean one Person, it means one God. God is manifested in three Persons. For example, water is defined as a chemical substance that has three states: liquid, solid, and gas. Well, God is a Spirit Who has three states (or manifestations): Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Each Person is God yet individual just like liquid, ice, and water vapor are all still water, yet they have various manifestations of that water. God also has three manifestations: Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit. Then where is the 4th? There are 4 states of matter not 3 wink

AngryManatee
Jesus will probably hand me a grapefruit, I'll take a bite and appreciate it's flavor and interesting texture, until I realize it's not a grapefruit... but a HUMAN HEAD!!!

Adam_PoE
Originally posted by Devil King
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DevilKing1138/rotj059.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DevilKing1138/ds1tj2.gif

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DevilKing1138/DeathStar2.jpg

http://pr0n.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/5/51/Jesus-got-owned.jpg/180px-Jesus-got-owned.jpg

debbiejo
Originally posted by Devil King
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/DevilKing1138/smeagol.jpg JIA??? confused

ThePittman
Originally posted by debbiejo
JIA??? confused He has really let himself go embarrasment

debbiejo
Greed, greed for power to own the world!!

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Robtard
Why would Jesus then say to himself, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."?

Jesus is not the Father, Jesus is the Son. God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (each Person is distinct yet God equally). Think of the angles of an equilateral triangle, each angle is it's own distinct angle yet it is equally 60 degrees just like the other distinct angles. One triangle, three distinct angles, which are all equal. One God, three distinct Persons, Whom are all equal.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by debbiejo
JIA??? confused

This is not relevant to the thread.

Robtard
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus is not the Father, Jesus is the Son. God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (each Person is distinct yet God equally). Think of the angles of an equilateral triangle, each angle is it's own distinct angle yet it is equally 60 degrees just like the other distinct angles. One triangle, three distinct angles, which are all equal. One God, three distinct Persons, Whom are all equal.

I see the point (haha, made a joke)... Thing is, all three points are the same triangle, different they may be; if said triangle were sentient, why would it speak to itself in the 3rd person? Wouldn't Jesus just have said to himself "Okay, I forgive them, as they don't know what they're doing".?

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Jesus is not the Father, Jesus is the Son. God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (each Person is distinct yet God equally). Think of the angles of an equilateral triangle, each angle is it's own distinct angle yet it is equally 60 degrees just like the other distinct angles. One triangle, three distinct angles, which are all equal. One God, three distinct Persons, Whom are all equal.

Angles do not exist. roll eyes (sarcastic) laughing

AngryManatee
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Angles do not exist. roll eyes (sarcastic)

yes they do lolz sin^-1(sqrt(3)/2) Happy Dance

debbiejo
Are you sure?

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by AngryManatee
yes they do lolz sin^-1(sqrt(3)/2) Happy Dance

It was a joke. wink big grin

AngryManatee
I know heh, only difference is I can prove it, whereas JIA cannot (for angels that is).

Robtard
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It was a joke. wink big grin http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8812/aaanl2.jpg

Little do you know, that angelical angles do exist...

Devil King
Originally posted by Robtard
Why would Jesus then say to himself, "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do."?

I've asked this question before. No one ever answered it. As JIA just did, he tries to explain Jesus talking to himself by explaining the trinity to us. This is not an answer.

It always sounded to me like the last words of a man who knew he was innocent but knew he'd be put to death anyway.


Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
This is not relevant to the thread.

Originally posted by Devil King
The positive answer is that the religion forum should be renamed the "christianity forum", and that any response that doesn't fit into the biblical masturbation category is off topic and irrelevant.

JesusIsAlive

Devil King

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Devil King


You still don't get it huh?

Devil King
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You still don't get it huh?

Do I understand how the trinity works? Yes, I get that. As stupid as you think everyone who disagrees with you must be, I spent 12 years in catholic school. I'm sure the nuns found time at some point over those 12 years to address it. My point is that whenever the verse addressed by Robtard is mentioned, bible-thumpers like yourself attempt to explain Jesus' MPD moment by telling us about the trinity. That isn't in question.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Devil King
Do I understand how the trinity works? Yes, I get that. As stupid as you think everyone who disagrees with you must be, I spent 12 years in catholic school. I'm sure the nuns found time at some point over those 12 years to address it. My point is that whenever the verse addressed by Robtard is mentioned, bible-thumpers like yourself attempt to explain Jesus' MPD moment by telling us about the trinity. That isn't in question.


What verse by Robtard?

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What verse by Robtard?

Such evasive tactics only weaken your position.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Such evasive tactics only weaken your position.

What position?

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What position?


Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Such evasive tactics only weaken your position.

ThePittman
I'm still waiting for the 4th state of God wink

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Shakyamunison


What evasion? I don't understand what Devil King is referring to (cynical?).

Mindship
"Well, I'll be damned..."

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Mindship
"Well, I'll be damned..."

Thank you Mindship for your honesty even if it was funny.

Mindship
smokin'

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What evasion? I don't understand what Devil King is referring to (cynical?).

I believe that you are lying. You understand quite well.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I believe that you are lying. You understand quite well.

Evasive now lying? No.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Evasive now lying? No.

Lying is how you are evading. You have a predictable pattern of confront and evade. But you already know this. Your delusion has allowed you to rationalize your lying and evasion, because it leads you to what you believe to be a higher end game.

Goddess Kali
I don't thnk Jesusisalive is intentionally lying, I just thnk he beleives his own delusions, and then tells his version of what he thinks is truth



Either that, or he is a sock

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I don't thnk Jesusisalive is intentionally lying, I just thnk he beleives his own delusions, and then tells his version of what he thinks is truth



Either that, or he is a sock

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What verse by Robtard?


This is the lie that I am talking about. Go back a page and read for yourself.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I don't thnk Jesusisalive is intentionally lying, I just thnk he beleives his own delusions, and then tells his version of what he thinks is truth



Either that, or he is a sock

I am neither.

ThePittman
So what is the 4th state of God, I still want to know?

Goddess Kali
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am neither.



So you ARE a liar ?



I was just trying to defend you JIA...

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
So you ARE a liar ?



I was just trying to defend you JIA...

Thanks but I am not lying or evading.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by ThePittman
So what is the 4th state of God, I still want to know?

4th state?

JesusIsAlive
FZFG5PKw504

wow!

JesusIsAlive
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ThePittman
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
4th state? You compared God to 3 states of matter like water is liquid, gas and solid but there are 4 states to matter so what is the 4th?

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by ThePittman
You compared God to 3 states of matter like water is liquid, gas and solid but there are 4 states to matter so what is the 4th?

I was not comparing God to matter, I was simply using water's three states (or manifestations) to illustrate the Truth that God is triune (i.e. three Persons Who constitute one God).

Alliance
Yeah, so it was a real crappy analogy.

And a quadruple post? Come on.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Alliance
Yeah, so it was a real crappy analogy.

And a quadruple post? Come on.

Quadruple?

Darth Jello
what will go through my mind when i see jesus? either some really funky absinthe, or a windsheild.

Alliance
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Quadruple?

You know? Four in a row?

Single
Double
Triple
Quadruple
Quintuple
etc...

Double posting is bad enough. Show some proper etiquite.

ThePittman
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I was not comparing God to matter, I was simply using water's three states (or manifestations) to illustrate the Truth that God is triune (i.e. three Persons Who constitute one God). As Alliance says, a very crappy analogy indeed and only helps to show you lack of knowledge on science.

debbiejo
Originally posted by Mindship
"Well, I'll be damned..." laughing out loud

Holy Shit!!

Of course the bible says that at Jesus 2nd return our eyes will burn out.. sad

AngryManatee
JIA has a knack for comparing the unexplainable to science... laughing out loud

yvonnekarate
I have no idea what I will see if I ever meet Jesus. I'm not able to see into the future.

Regards, Yvonne

Storm
Nothing.

ThePittman

leonheartmm
somethings are abundantly clear frmo this thread

jesus is darth vader
the kingdom of heaven is the death star
JIA calls his bible "MYYYYY PRREECCCCIOUUUUSSS!!!!!!!!"
new jerusalem is smaller than earth and is insignificant in might to the cosmos
god has no imagination{even i can think up of a city more beautiful than that}
the city of heaven is to the earth as the pope's hat is to the pope
jia does not have the capability to understand the most simple of mathematical logics
jesus needs to get over beeing crucified, over 2 millinia is enough time
the church needs to get LAID

"ELOIH ELOIH LAMA SABAKTAGIN"

these DEFINATELY sound the like the words of a man going WILLINGLY on the cross!!!! LMFAO.

also that verse alone is enough to tell of the rampant disunity among the THREE IN ONE TRIUNE GOD. furthermore, ALL three aspects are male. jesus=man/male , father=male, holy spirit=impregnated mary/has male genitals/male. yup gods confined even by the concept of sex.

furthermore, the analogy of warter being three molecules in one is BULLSHIT. those are COMPONENTS of a vague whole{only called whole because of our inability to see its fundamental components} called water. it depends on PERSPECTIVE alone if a painting is a beautfiul work of art or just molecules of different coloured elements in a haphazard state of entropy. similarly water can have infinite interpretations etc. and yet, by any one point of view, only ONE wud hold true as a vague representaion of an object. however with the trinity, BOTH have to hold true at the SAME time, and thats a complete contradiction. furthermore, father and son are OPPOSITES. jesus never referred to god specifically as his father, the wording used is that of, THE father. the father of all.

"my father is greater than "I" my father is greater than "ALL", i can of my "OWNSELF" do "NOTHING".

oh yea, as i explained before, the word trinity has never existed in the bible.

ThePittman
That is OK, the world will end on Dec. 21, 2012 pitt_shifty so we can all find out then

Devil King
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
What evasion? I don't understand what Devil King is referring to (cynical?).



Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I believe that you are lying. You understand quite well.

Ashestoashesjc
"WTF, I thought he was a chick!"

leonheartmm
if i ever met jesus, id force him to become a man with no knowledge/attributes etc of apparent godhood{i mean the entire trinity} and force him to live as a normal UNENLIGHTENED man does under his relegion's tyrrany. or rather make that, WOMAN. otherwise, id just conquer the snobbish city of heaven, destroy all the high headed self righteous inhabitants and make them fall like lucifer, comndemned to a hell of gluttony and the ensuing envy/rage/hate and every other dark emotion. evil face evil face evil face angel . while i rule heaven, MUAHAHAHAHAHA.

leonheartmm

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by Ashestoashesjc
"WTF, I thought he was a chick!"

laughing He does have the hair for it. laughing

AngryManatee
A gold home is nothing special, it just means it'll conduct electricity a lot better when lightning strikes it. There's rubber floors I hope?

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Devil King


Jesus was talking to His Father in Heaven (I don't understand why you do not see this). I have already explained that Jesus is not the Father. The Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit are one God--not one Person. Let me give you another example to help you understand the triune God. A corporation has a Board of Directors at the top of it's hierarchy. This Board consists of officers who are equal yet separate, distinct, individuals. So although there is one Board, there is more than one member that makes up the board. God is one (just like the Board in my example), but made up of more than one member (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). God is more of a title, position, or office than an individual Person. Many times in the Bible the term God is used to refer to the Father specifically, this is what leads people to believe that God is one Person. But God is not one Person. There is one God title or office just as there is on Board of Directors in a corporation. But God consists of more than one Person just as a Board of Directors consists of more than one person. No matter how many members in the Board of Directors, there is still only one Board relative to all of the other entities in a corporation. Similarly, no matter how many Persons in God, there is still only one God because God is more of a title, office, or position relative to created beings.

Does this help you understand the triune God Devil King?

Shakyamunison
^ god incorporated. laughing

Devil King
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Does this help you understand the triune God Devil King?

No, because I already understand the concept. (It's a bad example anyway) But it doesn't explain why Jesus had a multiple personality disorder moment.

AngryManatee
I guess god had to copy Porsche's business structure, cuz Porsche's business structure is perfect.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Devil King
No, because I already understand the concept. (It's a bad example anyway) But it doesn't explain why Jesus had a multiple personality disorder moment.

Explain why you believe that Jesus had a multiple personality disorder moment. I have already explained to you twice that Jesus and the Father are not the same Person.

Boris
How can anyone see him, he's dead?

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Devil King
No, because I already understand the concept. (It's a bad example anyway) But it doesn't explain why Jesus had a multiple personality disorder moment.

The misconception is in your mind Devil King not with Jesus. Here is what the problem is: you believe that Jesus and the Father are one Person (which I have labored to explain to you is false). If Jesus and the Father were one Person then your supposition that Jesus prayed to Himself would be true. But as I have already explained, Jesus is not the Father; therefore, His prayer could not be to Himself. Question: are you and your father the same person? No? Well, neither is Jesus and His Father the same Person. Both Jesus and His Father occupy the same position or office called God (just as in my Board of Directors example). The Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit occupy the same office (just like each member in the Board occupies the same office called Board of Directors).

Do you follow me?

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Devil King
No, because I already understand the concept. (It's a bad example anyway) But it doesn't explain why Jesus had a multiple personality disorder moment.

One Board -- One God
more than one person in Board --more than one Person in God

If you cannot understand this analogy Devil King then you never will. This is as rudimentary as it gets.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
One Board -- One God
more than one person in Board --more than one Person in God

If you cannot understand this analogy Devil King then you never will. This is as rudimentary as it gets.

This way of looking at god does not agree with the ten commandments.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This way of looking at god does not agree with the ten commandments.

How? God is still one God. God has always been (and will always be) one God in three Persons.

JesusIsAlive
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This way of looking at god does not agree with the ten commandments.

Just as a corporation has one Board of Directors composed of more than one person, there is one God composed of more than one Person. No matter how you look at it Shakyamunison, there is only one Board in a corporation that is composed of more than one member. Equally true (and no matter how you look at it Shakyamunison) there is only one God in the universe that is composed of more than one member.

Shakyamunison
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Just as a corporation has one Board of Directors in more than one person, God is one in more than one Person. No matter how you look at it Shakyamunison, there is only one Board of Directors in a corporation. Equally true (and no matter how you look at it Shakyamunison) there is only one God in the universe.



I means one, and me means one. It does not say you shall have not other gods before us.

Devil King
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The misconception is in your mind Devil King not with Jesus.

I'm sure if there was anyone here who could spot a broken mind, it's you.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Here is what the problem is: you believe that Jesus and the Father are one Person (which I have labored to explain to you is false).

How can I believe that Jesus and god are the same person? I don't think Jesus was divine. I understand the concept of the trinity. But your board room explaination of the trinity doesn't explain why Jesus needs to ask god to forgive them, when everything else you say places the role of judge on the shoulders of Jesus. This is why you are asking the question of what we'll do when you and baby Jesus prove us wrong and we're all standing in front of him on judgment day. So it sounds a lot like human beings have decided that Jesus wasn't talking to himself, but was talking to his father, who is also himself in a way, but not exactly, the authority thing really kinda flows like a corporate structure flow chart with the holy ghost being on kind of the outside of the structure like the human resources department at you local big buisness, mega church, propoganda corporation. But, you can tell god from Jesus and Jesus and god from the holy ghost because god has a funny hat, right?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
If Jesus and the Father were one Person then your supposition that Jesus prayed to Himself would be true.

They are supposedly the same person, but different.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
But as I have already explained, Jesus is not the Father; therefore, His prayer could not be to Himself.

So Jesus isn't divine.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Question: are you and your father the same person? No? Well, neither is Jesus and His Father the same Person.

My father never claimed to be god, and neither have I. My father and I don't have 2000 years of human meddling to contend with in our relationship to each other.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Both Jesus and His Father occupy the same position or office called God (just as in my Board of Directors example). The Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit occupy the same office (just like each member in the Board occupies the same office called Board of Directors).

Do you follow me?

But, there are different positions on a board of directors.

ThePittman
I have to say this is a new one for me, I have never heard God as a board of directors. So I guess we are the share holders if so I need to buy more stock. wink

Bardock42
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How do you think that you will feel when Jesus shows you His nail pierced feet and hands with the scars (or holes) from crucifixion I'd probably wonder why he wasn't able to use his superpowers in more than two thousand years to heal that.

Wolverine could do it in 5 minutes.

Is Wolverine superior to Jesus?

grey fox
Originally posted by ThePittman
I have to say this is a new one for me, I have never heard God as a board of directors. So I guess we are the share holders if so I need to buy more stock. wink

So whats the Wall Street Crash ? Armageddon ???

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