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Martian never sent in a write in so he'll just have to make due without if he gets the time.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Martian never sent in a write in so he'll just have to make due without if he gets the time. Didn't Martian openly admit that he would lose, and that Trickster was better, and then backed out?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Didn't Martian openly admit that he would lose, and that Trickster was better, and then backed out? Nope.

He openly admitted he had a lot of stuff going on right now (or something like that), then said he might basically be a no-show because of it.

Damn, haven't double posted in a while...

Regardless, keep this to the discussion thread guys. The posting should end here for this thread unless it's battle-related.

*sigh* Seeing as how Martian never showed, I guess I win.

Oh well. Here's my victory theme song and my picture.

American Dog's 'Shit Kicker'.
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Kheprion, the Solar Shit Kicker, is the winner. http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8366/kheperionbb2.jpg

Full credit to Roldz for this extremely awesome picture.

But for the record, I really had hoped Martian would come through. I don't count this as a legitimate win over him.

Oh please, everyone knows you're both the same guy.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
*sigh* Seeing as how Martian never showed, I guess I win.

Oh well. Here's my victory theme song and my picture.

American Dog's 'Shit Kicker'.
0Cbca3uFYK0


Kheprion, the Solar Shit Kicker, is the winner. http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8366/kheperionbb2.jpg

Full credit to Roldz for this extremely awesome picture.

But for the record, I really had hoped Martian would come through. I don't count this as a legitimate win over him. Trust me there is still time for him to get on and post

well, mm HAS been on, and has posted in other threads . . .

hope he shows -- no-shows suck.

This has to be a joke.

Alright you've tracked me,and done your little gizmo stick,but why the double standard? Your mind is a teenager,and you have him throwing out strategies when it's well known that he struggles to even control his armour

So no,I will not blunder in like a d#ck when you start dissing me,especially considering the fact that of everyone in the DCU earth I know the Aromours capabilities better then anyone,as i come from the future,nice try,but your screwed either way,as you either have to fight as in character as well(In which youir opening post would never occur) or neither of us do,which also ruins your OP. :wink:

Also,am i the only one to notice that we are at opposite ends iof the city?
and since i proved that i won't be coming to him,due to my huge experience and knowledge advantage,That means you have to come to me,which will take precious time to find me,considering i;'m phased into a wall.

Now,i know there are some tards(Tricker included)that think "Why pick Shadowcat as body?shouldn't she be powers?" however,anyone with a half decent exposure to shadowcat knows that her natural bodily state is intangibility,which means that i am forever untouchable,unless iu increase my density via Thunders powers.(Goober himself can confirm this)

So,i guess i should also point out some more flaws in your plan milady.

1.Your blind me with a solar flare plan has failed,as you no longer nowhere i am,and there is also another problem with it,we are in Hiroshima,a Japanese city,and if you read the OP,you'd notice that there is no mention of it being deserted so tell me,if that blast can temporarily blind a god,what would it do to a human retina?I'm sorry lass,but a sixteen year old woulkd never be willing to permanently blind a crowd,so theres that tactic out the window.

I also see you think that i can't take an energy blast....in Astonishing X men Shadowcat phased herself and the rest of the team and avoided...yep,you guessed it,a nuke.So noi,your energy won't do crap,unless you canm prove that your energy claws are as advanced as a weapon made by celestial tech(Witch Deaths sword would be as it was made by Apoc)

So the gist of it is,you can't harm me,you may say that you can hit me whilst phased,but fact is that when Vision goes Intangible he just looses density,turning into a gas like state,guess what?Metamorpho himself was unable to penetrate my sheilds,and he can go intangible just the same way as Vision.

As for the proof that my shields wonb't hold up(which doesn't matter anyway as i'm perma phased) That was staged lass,twiisting the facts is really one of yoour strong points.

Your move chuckles.

http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/139226/eye_of_the_tiger_/Survivor%20-%20Eye%20of%20the%20Tiger

I'm back.

welcome back Martian! ....sorry Digi, I'll leave now

Originally posted by Martian_mind
This has to be a joke.

Alright you've tracked me,and done your little gizmo stick,but why the double standard? Your mind is a teenager,and you have him throwing out strategies when it's well known that he struggles to even control his armour

So no,I will not blunder in like a d#ck when you start dissing me,especially considering the fact that of everyone in the DCU earth I know the Aromours capabilities better then anyone,as i come from the future,nice try,but your screwed either way,as you either have to fight as in character as well(In which youir opening post would never occur) or neither of us do,which also ruins your OP. :wink:

Also,am i the only one to notice that we are at opposite ends iof the city?
and since i proved that i won't be coming to him,due to my huge experience and knowledge advantage,That means you have to come to me,which will take precious time to find me,considering i;'m phased into a wall.

Now,i know there are some tards(Tricker included)that think "Why pick Shadowcat as body?shouldn't she be powers?" however,anyone with a half decent exposure to shadowcat knows that her natural bodily state is intangibility,which means that i am forever untouchable,unless iu increase my density via Thunders powers.(Goober himself can confirm this)

So,i guess i should also point out some more flaws in your plan milady.

1.Your blind me with a solar flare plan has failed,as you no longer nowhere i am,and there is also another problem with it,we are in Hiroshima,a Japanese city,and if you read the OP,you'd notice that there is no mention of it being deserted so tell me,if that blast can temporarily blind a god,what would it do to a human retina?I'm sorry lass,but a sixteen year old woulkd never be willing to permanently blind a crowd,so theres that tactic out the window.

I also see you think that i can't take an energy blast....in Astonishing X men Shadowcat phased herself and the rest of the team and avoided...yep,you guessed it,a nuke.So noi,your energy won't do crap,unless you canm prove that your energy claws are as advanced as a weapon made by celestial tech(Witch Deaths sword would be as it was made by Apoc)

So the gist of it is,you can't harm me,you may say that you can hit me whilst phased,but fact is that when Vision goes Intangible he just looses density,turning into a gas like state,guess what?Metamorpho himself was unable to penetrate my sheilds,and he can go intangible just the same way as Vision.

As for the proof that my shields wonb't hold up(which doesn't matter anyway as i'm perma phased) That was staged lass,twiisting the facts is really one of yoour strong points.

Your move chuckles.

http://www.radioblogclub.com/open/139226/eye_of_the_tiger_/Survivor%20-%20Eye%20of%20the%20Tiger

I'm back.

Thank you for showing up. Let's rumble.

"I know the Aromours capabilities better then anyone,as i come from the future,"

No, you don't. You know that it can see Brother Eye, but you don't know everything about this armor. The Reach are unheard of in your time. Thus, you would not know the technology.
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/sf014.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=38379

Hell, you don't even know where BB went after Brother eye went down.

"Now,i know there are some tards(Tricker included)that think "Why pick Shadowcat as body?shouldn't she be powers?" however,anyone with a half decent exposure to shadowcat knows that her natural bodily state is intangibility,which means that i am forever untouchable,unless iu increase my density via Thunders powers.(Goober himself can confirm this)"

No. Shadowcat's powers were going wacky at the time that she was in perma-phase, and as of right now, she has full control over her powers again. And the only phase action you should be able to use is a reflex dodge, which you cannot attack with. Shadowcat's other powers should be locked out, as she is a body pick. Shadowcat can't breathe while she's phased. So she can't stay phased. Shadowcat has been de-phased by energy attacks other than Death Wolverine's sword. Harpoon, of the marauder has done it, as has various magical beings and weapons. And even if you try to dodge, you can't stay phased forever. Unlike your organic body, I don't need to breathe, thus I have no time limit on my phase.


"1.Your blind me with a solar flare plan has failed,as you no longer nowhere i am,and there is also another problem with it,we are in Hiroshima,a Japanese city,and if you read the OP,you'd notice that there is no mention of it being deserted so tell me,if that blast can temporarily blind a god,what would it do to a human retina?I'm sorry lass,but a sixteen year old woulkd never be willing to permanently blind a crowd,so theres that tactic out the window."

We're both bloodlusted, and the way I see it, anyone there on that day picked the wrong place to be. Plus, if Jamie won't do it, the AI will. Not to mention the fact, that I need not necessarily make it that bright to blind you, just that I have the capability to make that bright.

"I also see you think that i can't take an energy blast....in Astonishing X men Shadowcat phased herself and the rest of the team and avoided...yep,you guessed it,a nuke.So noi,your energy won't do crap,unless you canm prove that your energy claws are as advanced as a weapon made by celestial tech(Witch Deaths sword would be as it was made by Apoc)"

My tech is probably not as good as Apoc's, but it's more than enough to make a weapon that hit you while phased. Vision's powers grant me the knowledge of how to phase attack and how to use it effectively. Meaning, I know how to hurt you. This was covered by Goober when Kandy tried to make the same point regarding having Emma Frost's powers.

"So the gist of it is,you can't harm me,you may say that you can hit me whilst phased,but fact is that when Vision goes Intangible he just looses density,turning into a gas like state,guess what?Metamorpho himself was unable to penetrate my sheilds,and he can go intangible just the same way as Vision."

Vision gotten through better shields than yours. Vision has phased through IM's shields, Invisible Woman's shield, and many more. I don't have to phase through, your shield can't take my firepower.

Vision phasing through IW's shields.
http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=4a599_visionff4.jpg

"As for the proof that my shields wonb't hold up(which doesn't matter anyway as i'm perma phased) That was staged lass,twiisting the facts is really one of yoour strong points." I'm well aware that the 'death' of Booster Gold was staged. But your shields wouldn't have survived it anyway.

Final point. Thunder is nowhere near the density controller that Vision is.
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40598

10x body weight, hard as steel? Nothing compared to Vision.

Thunder and Grace barely stop a jet from crashing, it buries them into the sidewalk.
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40635
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40636
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40638

Vision easily stops a jet from crashing. (Not max density)
http://img105.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc230&image=66372_jettp.jpg

Vision easily stops a speeding police car (nowhere near max density)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Vision_2_010.jpg

Vision easily rips apart tanks, while at nowhere near max density, again.
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vision04062hd.jpg

You may ask, why I am using so much Vision stuff? Simple. The Vision could defeat your entire amalgam by himself.

As Terry Bogard said: "GET SERIOUS!"

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Thank you for showing up. Let's rumble.



No, you don't. You know that it can see Brother Eye, but you don't know everything about this armor. The Reach are unheard of in your time. Thus, you would not know the technology.
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/sf014.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=38379

Hell, you don't even know where BB went after Brother eye went down.


No. Shadowcat's powers were going wacky at the time that she was in perma-phase, and as of right now, she has full control over her powers again. And the only phase action you should be able to use is a reflex dodge, which you cannot attack with. Shadowcat's other powers should be locked out, as she is a body pick. Shadowcat can't breathe while she's phased. So she can't stay phased. Shadowcat has been de-phased by energy attacks other than Death Wolverine's sword. Harpoon, of the marauder has done it, as has various magical beings and weapons. And even if you try to dodge, you can't stay phased forever. Unlike your organic body, I don't need to breathe, thus I have no time limit on my phase.



We're both bloodlusted, and the way I see it, anyone there on that day picked the wrong place to be. Plus, if Jamie won't do it, the AI will. Not to mention the fact, that I need not necessarily make it that bright to blind you, just that I have the capability to make that bright.



My tech is probably not as good as Apoc's, but it's more than enough to make a weapon that hit you while phased. Vision's powers grant me the knowledge of how to phase attack and how to use it effectively. Meaning, I know how to hurt you. This was covered by Goober when Kandy tried to make the same point regarding having Emma Frost's powers.


Vision gotten through better shields than yours. Vision has phased through IM's shields, Invisible Woman's shield, and many more. I don't have to phase through, your shield can't take my firepower.

Vision phasing through IW's shields.
http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=4a599_visionff4.jpg


Final point. Thunder is nowhere near the density controller that Vision is.
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40598

10x body weight, hard as steel? Nothing compared to Vision.

Thunder and Grace barely stop a jet from crashing, it buries them into the sidewalk.
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40635
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40636
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40638

Vision easily stops a jet from crashing. (Not max density)
http://img105.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc230&image=66372_jettp.jpg

Vision easily stops a speeding police car (nowhere near max density)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y226/jjschm20/Vision_2_010.jpg

Vision easily rips apart tanks, while at nowhere near max density, again.
http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vision04062hd.jpg

You may ask, why I am using so much Vision stuff? Simple. The Vision could defeat your entire amalgam by himself.

As Terry Bogard said: "GET SERIOUS!"

LOL.

just because i don't know where you are doesn't mean i don't know how you operate,and your still my vastly inferior opponent when it comes to strategy,as i said your a teen,and The BB armour mostly responds to attacks from his foes if they are near him and hostile,it doesn't pre-prepare fool.So as i said,your OP was worthless.


My powers were going wacky?Bullsh$t,prove it,if Shadowcat can't breathe whilst phased,why has she taken an entire team of Xmen through rock,lava and poisonous gas and been fine?she might not NEED to breathe,but thats not to say she can't wink

So,it would seem that i am untouchable and safe from all your little tricks of the trade.Now,this leaves you with only your phasing manouver as a defence,which will inevitably fail,as Metamorpho,who phases THE EXACT SAME WAY was unable to enter my shields.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc1.gif
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc3.gif
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Now you wil say "fine,I'll just blast them open"No,you won't.

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?...uyfight3ut4.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?...uyfight4ap5.jpg

Thats Guy Gardner,who you maintain your guy is weaker than..so you must conceed you cannot break the shield,or put BB over the Cap,and if you say i'm over the Cap,you'll be saying that your guys over the Cap as he stalemated GL,so just drop that idea Now


now,as you once stalemated a GL,and find yourself stumped by a supposedly second rate hero,you wilkl go all out,not only Shooting at my sheld.but physically striking it,now,all i need to do ius time it(not hard considering Booster is a fairly skilled H2H combatant and was a football star) and charge through you whilst your solid,and,seeing as your tech,shorting out your pathetic character.

But,thats just one forseeable way for me to defeat you.as i have shown,i won't be coming to you,but if you want me you gotta come get me,which will take time if i'm hiding.after enough time as passed i can simply trap wou in a shield(whhich you lack the power to destroy or te ability to phase through)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc2.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc3.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc4.gif

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?...uyfight3ut4.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?...uyfight4ap5.jpg

So you are noiw trapped in a shield,which is impenatrable,with neither of us able to get each other,however,i don't need to.As i have already taken a Nuke,i have no worries as to how i will last when the bomb hits.you on tyhe other hand have plenty to worry about,as you phase via density alteration...and unfortunately for you,even gas is vulnerable to a nuke.

I just wait for the Nuke to come,widen the shield so it encompasses the both of you,and BOOM!!.

...............................


To summarise

1.Tricker has no way of harming me
2.I have several ways of harming him
3.I have won
4.Crusty menstruation.

None of MM's scans work.

*unofficial post*

All my scans can be found here.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/452819_1-respect-booster-gold

The Metamorpho one s are on pg 2.sorry yall.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
LOL.

just because i don't know where you are doesn't mean i don't know how you operate,and your still my vastly inferior opponent when it comes to strategy,as i said your a teen,and The BB armour mostly responds to attacks from his foes if they are near him and hostile,it doesn't pre-prepare fool.So as i said,your OP was worthless.


My powers were going wacky?Bullsh$t,prove it,if Shadowcat can't breathe whilst phased,why has she taken an entire team of Xmen through rock,lava and poisonous gas and been fine?she might not NEED to breathe,but thats not to say she can't wink

So,it would seem that i am untouchable and safe from all your little tricks of the trade.Now,this leaves you with only your phasing manouver as a defence,which will inevitably fail,as Metamorpho,who phases THE EXACT SAME WAY was unable to enter my shields.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc2.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc3.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc4.gif

Now you wil say "fine,I'll just blast them open"No,you won't.

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?...uyfight3ut4.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?...uyfight4ap5.jpg

Thats Guy Gardner,who you maintain your guy is weaker than..so you must conceed you cannot break the shield,or put BB over the Cap,and if you say i'm over the Cap,you'll be saying that your guys over the Cap as he stalemated GL,so just drop that idea Now


now,as you once stalemated a GL,and find yourself stumped by a supposedly second rate hero,you wilkl go all out,not only Shooting at my sheld.but physically striking it,now,all i need to do ius time it(not hard considering Booster is a fairly skilled H2H combatant and was a football star) and charge through you whilst your solid,and,seeing as your tech,shorting out your pathetic character.

But,thats just one forseeable way for me to defeat you.as i have shown,i won't be coming to you,but if you want me you gotta come get me,which will take time if i'm hiding.after enough time as passed i can simply trap wou in a shield(whhich you lack the power to destroy or te ability to phase through)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc1.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc2.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc3.gif
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...unigou/jlc4.gif

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?...uyfight3ut4.jpg
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?...uyfight4ap5.jpg

So you are noiw trapped in a shield,which is impenatrable,with neither of us able to get each other,however,i don't need to.As i have already taken a Nuke,i have no worries as to how i will last when the bomb hits.you on tyhe other hand have plenty to worry about,as you phase via density alteration...and unfortunately for you,even gas is vulnerable to a nuke.

I just wait for the Nuke to come,widen the shield so it encompasses the both of you,and BOOM!!.

...............................


To summarise

1.Tricker has no way of harming me
2.I have several ways of harming him
3.I have won
4.Crusty menstruation.

"just because i don't know where you are doesn't mean i don't know how you operate,and your still my vastly inferior opponent when it comes to strategy,as i said your a teen,and The BB armour mostly responds to attacks from his foes if they are near him and hostile,it doesn't pre-prepare fool.So as i said,your OP was worthless." Incorrect. Jamie has gained a good amount of control over the armor during OYL.

"My powers were going wacky?Bullsh$t,prove it,if Shadowcat can't breathe whilst phased,why has she taken an entire team of Xmen through rock,lava and poisonous gas and been fine?she might not NEED to breathe,but thats not to say she can't wink" Doesn't matter. Shadowcat was your body pick and thus you can't have access to her mutant powers. And she is not in the permanent phase state. Which means the only phase you could have, would be a reflex dodge. A trait that your amalgam might not have access to, since she acquired it through training. and thus, it would be under experience, or mind pick.

"So,it would seem that i am untouchable and safe from all your little tricks of the trade.Now,this leaves you with only your phasing manouver as a defence,which will inevitably fail,as Metamorpho,who phases THE EXACT SAME WAY was unable to enter my shields." I've already proved that I can phase through two kinds of shields, Invisible Woman's and Iron Man's (Extremis), both of whom could also block Metamorpho I believe. Metamorpho did not phase.


"
Thats Guy Gardner,who you maintain your guy is weaker than..so you must conceed you cannot break the shield,or put BB over the Cap,and if you say i'm over the Cap,you'll be saying that your guys over the Cap as he stalemated GL,so just drop that idea Now " My guy would have an actual chance at beating Guy Gardner. Your guy would get murdered. And if you are seriously claiming that your shields can hold a GL, then you are higher than I am right now. I conceed nothing. My guy is capable of breaking your shields because I have the combined power of the Vision and the Scarab armor. And at maximum density, I am literally invulnerable as far as your attacks are concerned.

Giant Man breaking his hand hitting Vision.
http://img13.imagevenue.com/view.php?loc=loc199&image=66341_goliath.jpg

"So you are noiw trapped in a shield,which is impenatrable,with neither of us able to get each other,however,i don't need to.As i have already taken a Nuke,i have no worries as to how i will last when the bomb hits.you on tyhe other hand have plenty to worry about,as you phase via density alteration...and unfortunately for you,even gas is vulnerable to a nuke."

Martian, you are completely insane if you think your shields, which were destroyed completely and your armor ruined by a single punch from DOS Doomsday, will withstand a nuke.

Booster's shields fail against DD.
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lastscanfk0.jpg

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Incorrect. Jamie has gained a good amount of control over the armor during OYL.



This is relevant how?Boosters gone through several timelines,been fighting crime and superheroes who outmatch him greatly for over a decade,you haven't beenm at it two years.Far as control and skill goes,your my *****.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

" Doesn't matter. Shadowcat was your body pick and thus you can't have access to her mutant powers. And she is not in the permanent phase state. Which means the only phase you could have, would be a reflex dodge. A trait that your amalgam might not have access to, since she acquired it through training. and thus, it would be under experience, or mind pick.



Are you thick or in denial?I confered with Goober about this,and he specifically stated that Kitty Pryde is a body pick,and that i was taking the perma hased version,so you have no say in what i can and can't do,considering everything io have said is confirmed by Goober himself,awww poor lickle kitten.



Originally posted by TricksterPriest

." I've already proved that I can phase through two kinds of shields, Invisible Woman's and Iron Man's (Extremis), both of whom could also block Metamorpho I believe. Metamorpho did not phase.



Two kinds,one is cosmic energy,another 21st century tech.My shields come from the 31st century,and are made of Energy so advanced Vision probably doesn't have a clue what it is.So you really beleive that a bloodlusted Metamorpho,who had his opponents lying on the ground,would not try to phase?you have nothing to back up that youy can breach my shields,and even if you do try and phase through me,it's an instant loss for you,as while my suit may conk out,i am also phased,and that means that if a robot pphases through me,your body and Visons powers short out,so it would be a useless kamikaze,great tactic

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

My guy would have an actual chance at beating Guy Gardner. Your guy would get murdered. And if you are seriously claiming that your shields can hold a GL, then you are higher than I am right now. I conceed nothing. My guy is capable of breaking your shields because I have the combined power of the Vision and the Scarab armor. And at maximum density, I am literally invulnerable as far as your attacks are concerned.



My poor misguided child.Claiming Blue Beetle could Take Guy Gardner is basically admitting he is over the Caps.

I CLAIM nothing,I PROVE it.Click this link and you'll see Boosters shield holding out against a pissed off Guy Gardner,who is still far superior to your Character in versatilty or energy projection.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/452819_1-respect-booster-gold

He can't even crack the shield,and neither can you.

My lord,you actually think that your more durable then me?Thunder alone has taken hits from Supergirl and taunted her about their lack of effect when she was maximun density,Giant man is a pounk compared to Supergirl.

And,I also have The durability provided to me by the lovely Booster costume,which grants a standard human enough durability to take this.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/452819_1-respect-booster-gold

An explosion that damn near vaporised a person hardly phased him.

So not only am i protected from any and all of your attacks via a combo of shields and phasing,i am also your superior in durability as well,o,Bad luck old chap.


Originally posted by TricksterPriest


Martian, you are completely insane if you think your shields, which were destroyed completely and your armor ruined by a single punch from DOS Doomsday, will withstand a nuke.

Are you even followiing the fight?when did i say i'd take a nuke?I said that as i am permanently phased i have no neeed to fear the Nuke,specially as Pryde has already taken one unfazed
and please,none of that "Your not perma phased" crap,as it is firmly established by authorities far higher then you that i am.


Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Booster's shields fail against DD.
http://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lastscanfk0.jpg

Thats nice,but a very low showing,considering his shields have stopped a bloodlusted Mary Marvel,Metamorpho and Guy Gardner.Plus it's hardly relevant seeing as my shields will never be up against a nuke.


To summarise.

1.He can't take out my suit without killing himself
2.If he wants to try a solid attach i can phgase through and kill him,or win with my superior durability
3.He cannot show one viable strategy to defeat me,whereas his mahine based body gives me a quick one hit Ko or i can simply trap him in a shield and wait for the Nuke whilst happily phased,as he phases like a gas however,He would die,as he has made such a strong case that the shield i trapped him in can't take a nuke.

This is fun.

Ok time for clarification. Now it's my understanding that intangibility is Shadowcat's natural state now, and she actually had to train herself to remain solid. If that is actually the case, then the fact that her power was physical and required no conscious effort would mean that it WOULD carry over into the "Body" category.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok time for clarification. Now it's my understanding that intangibility is Shadowcat's natural state now, and she actually had to train herself to remain solid. If that is actually the case, then the fact that her power was physical and required no conscious effort would mean that it WOULD carry over into the "Body" category.

I'm calling shenanigans on this.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Drafting a body in a semi-permanent state of intangibility being over the killability cap. Similar to the Iceman Rule or Zzaxx ruling.

I want a judge vote on this.

"Two kinds,one is cosmic energy,another 21st century tech.My shields come from the 31st century,and are made of Energy so advanced Vision probably doesn't have a clue what it is.So you really beleive that a bloodlusted Metamorpho,who had his opponents lying on the ground,would not try to phase?you have nothing to back up that youy can breach my shields,and even if you do try and phase through me,it's an instant loss for you,as while my suit may conk out,i am also phased,and that means that if a robot pphases through me,your body and Visons powers short out,so it would be a useless kamikaze,great tactic thumb up"

Except that if you try to solidfy, you'll end up hurting yourself. I can phase attack and solidify, you can't. 2nd, Thunder increases her mass, thereby increasing her density. She can't phase and she would have no idea how to control it. 3rd, Shadowcat's perma-phase state was nearly fatal to her, and Reed Richards had to cure her.

Here's Shadowcat getting hit in phase state which caused her to go perma-phase in the first place. Uncanny Xmen #211.
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/uncxmen1.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=19788
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/uncxmen1.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=19789
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/uncxmen1.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=19792
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/uncxmen1.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=19794

This caused her to under molecular deterioration. She was saved by Reed Richards and Dr. Doom in the Fantastic 4 vs. Xmen limited series.

Here's my proof that my phase attack can hit you anyway.

Vision hitting Moonstone.
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/2184/vision8vl.jpg

"Two kinds,one is cosmic energy,another 21st century tech.My shields come from the 31st century,and are made of Energy so advanced Vision probably doesn't have a clue what it is.So you really beleive that a bloodlusted Metamorpho,who had his opponents lying on the ground,would not try to phase?you have nothing to back up that youy can breach my shields,and even if you do try and phase through me,it's an instant loss for you,as while my suit may conk out,i am also phased,and that means that if a robot pphases through me,your body and Visons powers short out,so it would be a useless kamikaze,great tactic "

Problem here. Vision doesn't phase into a gasesous state. You're just showing ignorance of my guy's powers. As already shown, I can attack phased people and your perma-phase is in fact, fatal to you if you can't de-phase. 2nd, I have full knowledge of Vision's powers, thus, I know to phase attack someone who is phased.

"My lord,you actually think that your more durable then me?Thunder alone has taken hits from Supergirl and taunted her about their lack of effect when she was maximun density,Giant man is a pounk compared to Supergirl."

Total BS. Supergirl was taking it easy on them since she wanted to join the outsiders.

Especially since Sabbac one-shotted her and Grace.
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40783
http://groups.msn.com/ultimatespidermanonlinecomic/issue087.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=40784


"Thats nice,but a very low showing,considering his shields have stopped a bloodlusted Mary Marvel,Metamorpho and Guy Gardner.Plus it's hardly relevant seeing as my shields will never be up against a nuke."

How pray tell, did you take hits from Mary Marvel, when one punch from DOS Doomsday ruined your armor? Did you use the Midas mode? In case you don't know, it's a special circuit that supercharges your armor. That burns out your power in minutes and leaves your suit drained. The Guy Gardner scan is total PIS, don't try to claim otherwise. And I don't phase like a gas, so the Metamorpho example is worthless.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I'm calling shenanigans on this.

It's the same principle that applies to Sebastian Shaw. Don't you remember when I revamped the way the "Body" category would be handled...

Originally posted by darthgoober
1. Reed Richards could really go either way and because of that guys like him will be a little tricky to deal with. If you take him as your "Body" character you WILL get his basic durability. But if your wanting to use his offensive capabilities as well your going to have to draft him into the "Powers" category.

As a basic rule of thumb, your "Body" comes with any abilties that don't require mental effort to control. So if it's automatic(like someone shooting Reed and his body stretching in automatic response) then it's "Body". If it DOES require mental control(like Reed stretching to wrap around an opponent) then it falls under the "Powers" category. Because of this, I've decided to alter a previous ruling I made via PM where I classified Healing Factors as a "Power". Under the new system it WILL fall under the "Body" attribute as long as it doesn't require any mental effort on the characters part.


If being phased is Kitty's natural state and mental effort is required for her to become solid, then it falls under the "Body" category. Now I understand the concerns regarding her "killability", but the fact is that she's no more unkillable than she was previously. She's still vulnerable to the same things that she was before it was revealed that MM's amalgam would be naturally phased, and she's no more powerful than she was before. If anything, she's technically LESS powerful as a "Body" pick because she loses her ability to consciously control her power.

I'm not trying to kill your argument, but what MM is proposing DOES fall within the rules of the tourney.

Which Vision is being used? I'm asking because scans for both classic and Young Avengers (Young Kang's armour) versions have been used so far.

yo this is a cool fight

Originally posted by Scoobless
Which Vision is being used? I'm asking because scans for both classic and Young Avengers (Young Kang's armour) versions have been used so far.

'Unofficial post'
The feats being used are things both Visions are capable of doing. And what's the diff? It's the same guy, same capabilities as far as the scans are concerned.

And go to hell , judge.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
'Unofficial post'
The feats being used are things both Visions are capable of doing. And what's the diff? It's the same guy, same capabilities as far as the scans are concerned.

And go to hell , judge.

They are actually a little different, I'd just like to know which you are using.

Alrighty,here's a post just to summarise the match.

As i have shown,Trickers opening post is basically worthless and a huge hunk of Bs,as he expects a double standard of me fighting in-charcter,and him having never before seen tactical skill or competence.I also proved that either in character or out,i am vastly more experienced then he is and will not fall for such a stupid trap.

Since it has been confirmed that I am perma intangible,Tricker has no way of harming me to any possible degree,as i have a combination of GL holding sheilds

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/452819_1-respect-booster-gold

And Kitty prides phasing ability.

http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sc1co8.jpg

Which means Tricker can not mount any pheasible offence in anyway,shape or form.

I on the other hand,have a to use minimal effort to defeat Tricker,as he can not hurt me with his energy blasts,nor will the Nuke be able to harm me whilst phased,as these scans conclusively proove.

http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sc4mz3.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomics025.jpg



Now,as Vision has never shown to take a nuke,that means he'll have to high tale it outta there,and that means that i can follow.All i need is one touch to end this match,as this scan here shows:


http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u131/jason-todd/Jimscomics024.jpg

I break mechanics if i walk through them phased.It is inevitable that Tricker will fall.

Now i ask,how can Tricker be the winner if he lacks any possible offence?if he touches me his mechanical body will shut down and he'll lose instantly,and if he avoids me long enough,he'll phase underground,where i can follow,it's essentially just a matter of time until he loses,and as he has not produced one viable tactic,he cannot possibly win this match.

So all in all,i know that Tricker is screwed,and i think he knows it too,with me being untouchable,unharmable,and able to defeat him with a single touch,and he can't stop me.

This post was after the gun I believe MM. Goob said matches closed last night at Midnight IIRC.

Originally posted by illadelph12
This post was after the gun I believe MM. Goob said matches closed last night at Midnight IIRC.

#nooficial#
I did post before midnight.


unless he meant a different time zone to mine.....which on reflection he probably did.

my bad.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
#nooficial#
I did post before midnight.


unless he meant a different time zone to mine.....which on reflection he probably did.

my bad. He meant and has been using central time which is what he lives in.


So if the match ended at midnight that would be 1:00 Am Eastern Standard Time.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
#nooficial#
I did post before midnight.


unless he meant a different time zone to mine.....which on reflection he probably did.

my bad.

He meant midnight on Sunday.

Judge's Vote

Firstly, let me congratulate you both on a great match. It was looking very grim there at first when we didn't know whether or not Martian was going to show but then he made things very interesting (to say the least). Before I give my final vote I'd like to explain the factors that led to my decision so that both combatants can understand my reasoning and why I came to this conclusion (I'll try to be more concise this time around).

1.) Compatibility - There were a large number of amalgamation issues that I found with Martian's character. Kitty Pryde as the body pick didn't sit right with me, I felt it was a bad choice from the outset of this round. She really offers nothing beneficial to that component. Even assuming (as we are) that Kitty's body is permanently phased (which I don't believe it actually is), you would still need a means to make yourself tangible again to interact with the environment, as you get no knowledge of how to use your body (Kitty)'s powers (as Goober reiterated, you'd essentially just be phasing through everything). The manner in which Thunder's powers work would not allow you to become tangible. Thunder simply takes on and shunts additional mass. In your permanently phased form your powers would be redundant (taking on additional phased mass). We're also led to assume that Kitty's perma phased body won't disable Booster's powersuit (though it actually would).

Basically, with all due respect, your amalgam was poorly conceived in my eyes and it's hard for me to see it capable of any of the few feats you presented save phasing through, well, everything.

2) Combat - Trickster presented methods of attack in his posts and supported them with evidence. Martian moreso presented methods of defense (hiding in the ground, shields) and letting the bomb kill Trickster, of which there's no guarantee it would do. Don't forget, Little Boy was a clandestine warhead (the first atomic bomb ever used). It's not as powerful as current day nuclear warheads, it only had about a 15 kiloton yield. Martian's posts mostly consisted of reiterating that he was phased and nothing could hurt him (even after Trickster presented scans of phased Kitty getting hurt), and then boasting of the strength of Booster's shields (see Compatibility).

3) Scans - None of Martian's scans worked. At first I wasn't going to hold it against him, but he easily could have just lobbied for a free post so that he could re-submit them and it would have been granted. Instead he referred us to a respect thread. Please at least seem like you're putting forth an effort.

4) Booster's intelligence - Assuming Booster knows the capabilities of the scarab armor simply because he's from the future doesn't sit well with me. I've read many of his appearances and he always seems to be getting fed info by Skeets. Skeets isn't available to you in this tourney and you didn't provide evidence of Booster having the knowledge himself.

etc...

I think I'll just end it.

Essentially, I see this as Martian pretty much putting himself in a position where Trickster could take advantage of him. Martian's amalgam would suffocate himself if he stayed in the ground for a prolonged period of time, and he has no way of becoming tangible. Trickster can still harm the phased form with his proposed energy attacks where as Martian never fully presented his offensive capabilities save trapping Kheprion in a shield or phasing through Kheprion if and when he was tangible.

This is basically intangibility versus intangibility with Trickster having presented more viable methods of attack.

My vote is for Trickster.

Good match. Perhaps if Martian was online more often he could have presented a more fleshed out attack. As it stands he didn't. Sorry Martian.


(Damn, that wasn't really concise either.)

thanks for stepping up bats.

Originally posted by leonidas
thanks for stepping up bats. Now if he would only step up for the other match

Christ can we just declare Tricker the winner already?

I don't even want to go on cause of the pain in the ass getting to this match was,and since i barely prepared,i didn't expect to win,i just didn't wanna be a no show.

he won,by criky,just finish this tourney so i can have a good show in the next one.

Judge's Vote

TP:

- Insulting you opponent to gain an edge....really?!
- You said repeatedly that he would never find you, but you never explained how. You can both phase, but that doesn't really = invisible.
- Booster survives 52, so I'm guessing there's some context you're not telling us with that bomb-death scan.
- Beetle's your mind and he's kind of a newb....you never addressed how he'd be fully utilizing the powers, especially since a few of your Vision feats talk about how adept he is at changing forms....which is a "mind" thing.

MM:

- We have examples (not scans) of Kitty being able to be harmed by energy, and NOT being harmed by energy. I really don't know which to believe...but I know that no intengibility is completely untouchable, especially for one who can also go intangible.
- You accuse TP of not showing proof that Kitty's power were on the fritz when she was perma-phased, and also about the breathing thing.....then you offer no proof to bolster your counter-point. I'm not an X-Men fan, so it's hard to even know what to believe when there's contradictory statements about something that should be provable one way or the other. It's your amalgam though...you should be better prepared to defend basic power-related stuff like that.
- Linking to the BG respect thread doesn't exactly count as posting links. Especially with all the misinformation in this battle, am I really supposed to sift through it and say "Hmm. Is this the one he was talking about?"
- You've created a cool shield + phasing cocoon for yourself. But this might make it rough to, ya know, hurt Trick unless you want to make yourself a bit more vulnerable.
- That last post you made was over 9 hours after the scheduled stopping time. I can understand that you weren't fully prepped for this match, but unless your time zone is a whopping 9 hours behind goob's, you just lied. Say you didn't know what the stopping time was or something...sheesh! But that was kinda low.

General:

- You both need to learn to quote individual sections of the other person's post....much easier to follow counter-arguments that way.

Anyway, I'll make the win official. Voting for Trick. Not enough concerns addressed in MM's posts.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
That last post you made was over 9 hours after the scheduled stopping time. I can understand that you weren't fully prepped for this match, but unless your time zone is a whopping 9 hours behind goob's, you just lied.

He's in Australia ... he's around 16 hours ahead of DG's timezone.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Anyway, I'll make the win official. Voting for Trick. Not enough concerns addressed in MM's posts. That's it... I'm taking over KMC...

Originally posted by Scoobless
He's in Australia ... he's around 16 hours ahead of DG's timezone.

Fair enough then.