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Well they both got owned the same way, so which one would win?

Grundy : http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/1301/sb312ij6.jpg

Hulk : http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3716/batsvshulkmx1.jpg

Who wins this fight then?

Standard Hulk.

Standard as in Savage?

And what incarnation of Grundy?

Current Grundy.

And by Classic I mean Savage but not the overpowered version, the version on the scan 313

Grundy has cunning and a heightened awareness which grants him the territorial advantage in any scenario

Grundy.

Originally posted by don't shiv
Grundy has cunning and a heightened awareness which grants him the territorial advantage in any scenario

Grundy. territory means nothing in this fight its savagery which goes 2 hulk who can be the strongest of the 2 instantaneously

u gotta stop postin that crossover its the biggest load of junk ever

Hulk

Originally posted by Rewmac
Current Grundy.

And by Classic I mean Savage but not the overpowered version, the version on the scan 313

What version of Hulk isn't overpowered? 131



What does Grundy have going for him besides strength right now?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What version of Hulk isn't overpowered? 131



What does Grundy have going for him besides strength right now?


Grundy has a thunderclap which causes damage on a multiversal scale. He nearly destroyed the entire 5th dimension with just a casual thunderclap.

Thats sounds about right somebody of that power level causing muti-verse damage.

lol...it sounded good though

Hulk, Batman has held his own against Grundy numerous times, Batkicking Hulk ftw was PIS IMO.

Depends on the Grundy. As you said, he got batkicked. But Grundy has also done well against the JLA and Superman in his stronger forms.

Hulk here

Originally posted by Rewmac
Grundy : http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/1301/sb312ij6.jpg

Hulk : http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3716/batsvshulkmx1.jpg
Bat-Kick ftw!? durfist





Seriously though,

Grundy takes this.

Originally posted by Galan007
Seriously though,

Grundy takes this.

Really?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Really?

(IMO)

Originally posted by Galan007


(IMO)

What can he do besides brawl though?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What can he do besides brawl though? Current Grundy is an absloute beast.

Originally posted by Galan007
Current Grundy is an absloute beast.

I can say the exact same thing about Hulk.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What can he do besides brawl though?

Kick the shit out of the Hulk, for one.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I can say the exact same thing about Hulk. Current Grundy seemed roughly on par with Superman, .

Originally posted by Galan007
Current Grundy seemed roughly on par with Superman.

Ah.

Originally posted by Galan007
Current Grundy seemed roughly on par with Superman, .

Question. Didn't Red Tornado kill him with a super hurricane?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Question. Didn't Red Tornado kill him with a super hurricane?

You can't really kill Grundy, but yes he ripped him in half.

Grundy has no superspeed that I'm aware of. In my opinion, Hulk takes this.

Originally posted by G-Mafia
Grundy has no superspeed that I'm aware of. Hulk does?

Hulk, no limits, staggeringly fast and agile, exponentially increasing strength, regeneration, stamina and healing

Originally posted by Galan007
Hulk does?
he can move at thousands of mph, at the minimum.

Originally posted by janus77
he can move at thousands of mph, at the minimum.

Originally posted by janus77
he can move at thousands of mph, at the minimum.

It's more like 250 max. And thats running speed.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hulk does? No, I'm not saying that. I just see people constantly saying Grundy is in Supes' league. IMO, Superman is written down to Grundys' level.

He doesn't have high running speed, but his reflexes are so great he can easily tag both Flashes at the same time.

The Hulk MAY be able to hit Mach one.

Any more than that would earnestly surprise me.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He doesn't have high running speed, but his reflexes are so great he can easily tag both Flashes at the same time.


Hulk?...tag the Flash?....I doubt that...not unless Flash let him.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's more like 250 max. And thats running speed.
that might be his running speed (and max is kind of iffy, considering it is a result of his musculature...) but I'm including his leaping ability - thousands of miles, in hours ...

basically, that's the kind of agility he could use to his advantage ...

Originally posted by Soljer
The Hulk MAY be able to hit Mach one.

Any more than that would earnestly surprise me.

Most I've seen him hit was around 300mph running speed.


Mungi: No, just no. Hulk can never hit a non-jobbing Flash.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Most I've seen him hit was around 300mph running speed.


Mungi: No, just no. Hulk can never hit a non-jobbing Flash.

I'm almost certain he was refering to a feat by Grundy (which would be equally awful)

no brick is takin hulk in a brawl hulk 10/10 every incarnation could take it except grey hulk hes way too outmatches

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk, no limits, staggeringly fast and agile, exponentially increasing strength, regeneration, stamina and healing He has limits here. It is Classic Standard Hulk like I said.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He doesn't have high running speed, but his reflexes are so great he can easily tag both Flashes at the same time. No he would not.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm almost certain he was refering to a feat by Grundy (which would be equally awful)

Oh. Still bad, but not quite as bad as Hulk. At least Grundy has proved fast enough to fight with Superman.

Originally posted by Rewmac
He has limits here. It is Classic Standard Hulk like I said. if its classic hulk then he has no limits

Originally posted by janus77
that might be his running speed (and max is kind of iffy, considering it is a result of his musculature...) but I'm including his leaping ability - thousands of miles, in hours ...

basically, that's the kind of agility he could use to his advantage ...



His speed has never really been show increase beyond a certain point.

At least as far as I know. If you have some examples of Hulk becoming noticeably faster at extreme levels of rage I'd love to see it

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Oh. Still bad, but not quite as bad as Hulk. At least Grundy has proved fast enough to fight with Superman. hulk fought glads and silver surfer and managed hits......wats ur point

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Hulk?...tag the Flash?....I doubt that...not unless Flash let him.

I was talking about Grundy not Hulk

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Mungi: No, just no. Hulk can never hit a non-jobbing Flash.

Once again where did I say Hulk?...I was talking about Grundy.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm almost certain he was refering to a feat by Grundy (which would be equally awful)

Bingo, and he has done it more then once

Originally posted by Rewmac
No he would not.

What? Grundy HAS tagged both Flashes multiple times.

Originally posted by Rewmac
He has limits here. It is Classic Standard Hulk like I said.



Pretty much every version of Hulk has been without any major strength limitation.

Originally posted by strengthkills
if its classic hulk then he has no limits Actually classic Hulk is class 75 tonner...Savage is the limitness strenght type guy...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos


Pretty much every version of Hulk has been without any major strength limitation. His first incarnation had a kinda limit. He was 75-100 tonner. And got bitchslapped by Rhino.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Actually classic Hulk is class 75 tonner...Savage is the limitness strenght type guy...

Then Grundy would probably destroy him

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos


His speed has never really been show increase beyond a certain point.

At least as far as I know. If you have some examples of Hulk becoming noticeably faster at extreme levels of rage I'd love to see it
Catching a tank shell. FF #25
http://img156.exs.cx/img156/7893/artillery5jv.jpg

Originally posted by Rewmac
His first incarnation had a kinda limit. He was 75-100 tonner. And got bitchslapped by Rhino. are we talkin grey hulk ....cause thats the orginal ...if so grundy takes it but it would still be a fight

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I was talking about Grundy not Hulk



Once again where did I say Hulk?...I was talking about Grundy.



Bingo, and he has done it more then once



What? Grundy HAS tagged both Flashes multiple times.

Sorry. That's a pretty impressive speed feat for Grundy.

Originally posted by strengthkills
Catching a tank shell. FF #25
http://img156.exs.cx/img156/7893/artillery5jv.jpg
Big thing.....Midnighter kicked back a tank shall to the tank from which it was fired from.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Well they both got owned the same way, so which one would win?

Grundy : http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/1301/sb312ij6.jpg

Hulk : http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3716/batsvshulkmx1.jpg

Who wins this fight then?

Standard Hulk. thats savage

Originally posted by strengthkills
Catching a tank shell. FF #25
http://img156.exs.cx/img156/7893/artillery5jv.jpg

Nice

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Sorry. That's a pretty impressive speed feat for Grundy.

As I mentioned as well he has done it several times, not just once.

Originally posted by strengthkills
thats savage As I said standard Hulk, not Savage. Thanks that you can read.

Originally posted by Estacado
Big thing.....Midnighter kicked back a tank shall to the tank from which it was fired from. ur jus mad hulk survived the darkness easily
and besides this fight wont be decided by speed

Originally posted by Estacado
Big thing.....Midnighter kicked back a tank shall to the tank from which it was fired from.

Hulk caught it spun and threw the shell away fast enough that it didn't have time to detonate.

313


Which is rather odd since there was nothing to make it explode . . .

Originally posted by Rewmac
As I said standard Hulk, not Savage. Thanks that you can read. so by standard wat color is he...... the original is grey....but the standard is green....

Originally posted by King_Mungi
As I mentioned as well he has done it several times, not just once.

If only there was an incarnation of Flash that was mildly retarded.

Oh well, I can dream.

Originally posted by strengthkills
ur jus mad hulk survived the darkness easily
and besides this fight wont be decided by speed in fact he got stronger in the darkness.....HAHA

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If only there was an incarnation of Flash that was mildly retarded.

Oh well, I can dream.

Originally posted by strengthkills
ur jus mad hulk survived the darkness easily
and besides this fight wont be decided by speed

When did Hulk fight Jackie Estacado?

And yeah, actually, I think it WILL be decided by speed. 313

If Grundy was fast enough to tag the flash, Hulk's ****ed. Grundy is already argurably stronger than Hulk since he can fight the JLA and Superman. But the speed advantage will murder Hulk.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If only there was an incarnation of Flash that was mildly retarded.

Oh well, I can dream.

Flash is my all time favorite chracter, but he isn't constantly running at light speeds. I wish people would stop thinking of him constantly doing that and on a drop of a dime. He needs momentum to get to that "higher" level.

Grundy can match-up Superman and he a living dead...Kinda zombie thing.

Originally posted by Rewmac
As I said standard Hulk, not Savage. Thanks that you can read. please tell me which hulk it is the only standard hulk i know is.....savage but u said its not so....... ....take ur pick theres about 30

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Flash is my all time favorite chracter, but he isn't constantly running at light speeds. I wish people would stop thinking of him constantly doing that and on a drop of a dime. He needs momentum to get to that "higher" level.

Yes but if Flash were smart he would always be running at light speeds

And the fact that its hard to tell if he's going makes feats like hitting him irritatingly ambigous.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Grundy is already argurably stronger than Hulk since he can fight the JLA and Superman. But the speed advantage will murder Hulk.

He's also fought all of the JSA by himself , and fought the JSA & JLA at the same time .

Originally posted by King_Mungi
He's also fought all of the JSA by himself , and fought the JSA & JLA at the same time .

Ok, the PC feats are out, but when did he fight the JSA? Last time I saw him was in 'Tornado's path'.


Basically the upshot is: this is a curbstomp, correct?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
When did Hulk fight Jackie Estacado?

And yeah, actually, I think it WILL be decided by speed. 313

If Grundy was fast enough to tag the flash, Hulk's ****ed. Grundy is already argurably stronger than Hulk since he can fight the JLA and Superman. But the speed advantage will murder Hulk. HA i almost choked on my gum......i could say the same...u know hulk took on both avengers teams,hit gladiator and knocked him out ,hit silver surfer...and once again hes not stronger ......strength is the entire reason hulk was made let it go

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok, the PC feats are out, but when did he fight the JSA? Last time I saw him was in 'Tornado's path'.

He did fight them and do quite well (but remember it is the JSA). Then at some point Supergirl flew down to save Powergirl and they beat the stuffing out of him.

I think current grundy was ready to fight the league for amazo's body. That says alot. but grundy did get pwned by red tornado.tho reddy is a universal elemental. I don't know. I'm going with Hulk on this one. unless grundy gets a quick knock out.

Originally posted by strengthkills
HA i almost choked on my gum......i could say the same...u know hulk took on both avengers teams,hit gladiator and knocked him out ,hit silver surfer...and once again hes not stronger ......strength is the entire reason hulk was made let it go And you know that Surfer told him that he can kill him one second too...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
When did Hulk fight Jackie Estacado?

And yeah, actually, I think it WILL be decided by speed. 313

If Grundy was fast enough to tag the flash, Hulk's ****ed. Grundy is already argurably stronger than Hulk since he can fight the JLA and Superman. But the speed advantage will murder Hulk. oh hulk fought jackie a little while back and basically laughed at the darkness, jackie couldnt believe it...here let me post itHulk is immune to "the powers of darkness", they actually make him stronger (this is unheard of):





These scans are from a crossover, but cool to look at nonetheless

Originally posted by Rewmac
And you know that Surfer told him that he can kill him one second too... yet he never has....the only way surfer could do it is by changing him back to banner (which doesnt work on an enraged hulk)and kill him then

Originally posted by strengthkills
yet he never has....the only way surfer could do it is by changing him back to banner (which doesnt work on an enraged hulk)and kill him then Well clearly you don't know Surfer.Originally posted by strengthkills
oh i saw it on estacados sig thought i might crack a joke on him Well it didn't work out. That was kinda memberbashing boy.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Well clearly you don't know Surfer. Well it didn't work out. That was kinda memberbashing boy. u clearly dont know hulk power cosmic isnt that effective against an enraged hulk most of the time only one specific wavelength,and its not member-bashing considering the subject of the joke was a fictional character

Originally posted by strengthkills
yet he never has....the only way surfer could do it is by changing him back to banner (which doesnt work on an enraged hulk)and kill him then

Wow.

You're QUITE ignorant of the Surfer's power.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wow.

You're QUITE ignorant of the Surfer's power. Wow ur Quite ignorant of hulks(enraged) power

could Surfer kill Hulk without having to drain him of his gamma?

Originally posted by janus77
could Surfer kill Hulk without having to drain him of his gamma? he shouldnt be able to kill an enraged hulk

Originally posted by strengthkills
he shouldnt be able to kill an enraged hulk
I can't really see him killing any Hulk... they are all quasi-immortal, it seems.

but other than siphoning off the energies, I can't think of how he 'kills' (however temporarily) The Hulk.

Originally posted by janus77
could Surfer kill Hulk without having to drain him of his gamma?

With nothing more than a thought. .

Originally posted by Soljer
With nothing more than a thought. .
how, what exactly would he do?

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ok, the PC feats are out, but when did he fight the JSA? Last time I saw him was in 'Tornado's path'.


Happened in Supergirl #1

He was taking on Alan Scott, Flash, Mr.Terrific, WildCat, Powergirl and was winning. He was back handing Flash, nearly crushed Alan till Powergirl rused in to save him. Then overpowered Powergirl till Supergirl saved her.

Originally posted by strengthkills
ur jus mad hulk survived the darkness easily
and besides this fight wont be decided by speed
Too bad it was non canon bullshit where Hulk was "absorbing" the darkness also Jackie only tried to use some darklings on him while he could turn his inner out........

Originally posted by strengthkills
u clearly dont know hulk power cosmic isnt that effective against an enraged hulk most of the time only one specific wavelength,and its not member-bashing considering the subject of the joke was a fictional character You don't know what is Power Cosmic do you?Originally posted by strengthkills
he shouldnt be able to kill an enraged hulk That he is strong can smash? You don't even know what Surfer can do.

Also Grundy is more than a match to the Standard Hulk.Originally posted by Estacado
Too bad it was non canon bullshit where Hulk was "absorbing" the darkness also Jackie only tried to use some darklings on him while he could turn his inner out........ He didn't even use tha most poweful ones. No true power was unleashed by Jackie.

Originally posted by janus77
how, what exactly would he do? he couldnt

Originally posted by janus77
how, what exactly would he do? Well. Matter manipulation. Or you think Surfer's only power is the cosmic blasts?

Originally posted by janus77
how, what exactly would he do?
He already said it in Surfer v3 125 that he could easily disintegrate him.

Originally posted by Rewmac
You don't know what is Power Cosmic do you? That he is strong can smash? You don't even know what Surfer can do.

Also Grundy is more than a match to the Standard Hulk. He didn't even use tha most poweful ones. No true power was unleashed by Jackie. power cosmic..... ah yes the power that captain universe(uni-power) controls,firelord possesses and silver surfer has.You don't even know what hulk can do.
Yes grundy is a match for standard hulk(grey hulk) ....heck i say he gets 9/10 on grey hulk,tell me if jackie didnt unleash his full power and it made hulk stronger ......what would full power do

Originally posted by Estacado
He already said it in Surfer v3 125 that he could easily disintegrate him. just cause a character says he can disintergrate someone doesnt mean he can,case in point, Hulk vs high evolutionary or hulk vs firelord,or hulk vs captain universe

Jackie could do some serious damage inside Hulk since it is dark inside his body he could use his abilities to make him go "pop" from within....he did it before.....

Originally posted by Estacado
Jackie could do some serious damage inside Hulk since it is dark inside his body he could use his abilities to make him go "pop" from within....he did it before..... vision tried to make him explode by doing someting to his molecules, hulks anger made vision in his intangible form get stuck and vision almost died

No it's like Jackie could create a bomb inside Hulk's mind like Sue can create force fields inside someone's body.

Originally posted by Estacado
No it's like Jackie could create a bomb inside Hulk's mind like Sue can create force fields inside someone's body. meh does he have a respect thread he sounds interesting

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/415044_3-the-darkness-respect-thread

thanks bro about 2 read it right now